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 Nokia N8 - V5 - [The King of Camera Phones], Everythings about the Nokia N8...

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post Sep 28 2010, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Clementyeo @ Sep 28 2010, 03:06 AM)
u know whats the price of n8? rclxms.gif


Added on September 28, 2010, 3:07 am

er... dummy set means empty shell?  cry.gif
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ya , only as display at some shop biggrin.gif

QUOTE(rahuldave @ Sep 28 2010, 07:27 AM)
the good thing is that an "old" ish news

bad thing is, even old news ( before delay attack vol. 4 by nokia ) Malaysia set on Dec, then if latest news, when the exact date?

btw.. of all romours i heard, this is the 1st time i heard Dec for malaysia, so take it with a truckload pinch of salt perhaps? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jbb_lkh @ Sep 28 2010, 09:59 AM)
Noooooo...  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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what the fudge? another ranting-filled-no-fact-based n possibly biased "preview" from another US site?

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...on_arrival.html

seriously, are they trying to make themself look stupid on purpose?
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Sep 28 2010, 11:44 AM)
what the fudge? another ranting-filled-no-fact-based n possibly biased  "preview" from another US site?

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/arti...on_arrival.html

seriously, are they trying to make themself look stupid on purpose?
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I'm sick of people giving bad reviews to this phone when it hasn't been released yet. Every assumption you have made is completely wrong. The symbian^1 operating system has been outdated recently and compared to android and apple yes it's been way behind. But Symbian^3 is here to change all that. The new symbian now has caught up with the features of both apple and android and added a few more. How can you write off a device if you've not used the finished product. Symbian^3 is the answer many dissapointed nokia fans have been looking for. As for criticism of the hardware, 680mhz processor is slower than 1ghz as seen in apple and android devices, but the fact is symbian is designed to run on more energy efficient hardware and as such doesn't require as much processing power. The n8 also has a graphics accelerator ontop of the 680mhz processor, where as the other devices with 1ghz processors don't and they need that extra processing speed to handle the graphics. As for apps, apple has certainly changed the way we think about apps and how we use smart phones, but having a library of thousands of useless apps doesn't make the the iphone any better than the n8. There are heaps of apps available for symbian, they are just not located on the ovi-store. Most of the apps that are on the ovi store are atleast useful and not gimmicky rubbish created by apple fanboys. As for the pricing of the device, here in Australia the price is actually cheaper than an iphone 4 and similar spec android smart phones so I don't know where you get your figures.


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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 28 2010, 10:45 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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giam siap mean giam siap la... He know A8 vs ARM11 which one more energy efficient in same frequency? whistling.gif

Symbian so energy efficient why put GPU on it jek.. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 28 2010, 11:52 AM)
giam siap mean giam siap la...  He know A8 vs ARM11 which one more energy efficient in same frequency?  whistling.gif 

Symbian so energy efficient why put GPU on it jek..  whistling.gif
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Some program depend on GPU while others depend on Processing power (CPU). Separate GPU from CPU means you have efficient way of processing. Same like your desktop. Compare onboard GPU and standalone GPU, which is more efficient and produce more powah? And compare corei3 (integrated with GPU) with core2duo+ATi 4670?


Added on September 28, 2010, 11:00 amBut still to me, I think 680Mhz isn't enough. haha.

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 28 2010, 10:57 AM)
Some program depend on GPU while others depend on Processing power (CPU). Separate GPU from CPU means you have efficient way of processing. Same like your desktop. Compare onboard GPU and standalone GPU, which is more efficient and produce more powah? And compare corei3 (integrated with GPU) with core2duo+ATi 4670?


Added on September 28, 2010, 11:00 amBut still to me, I think 680Mhz isn't enough. haha.
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are u telling me that Symbian able to use the GPU as a GPGPU(General Purpose GPU)?
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 28 2010, 12:07 PM)
are u telling me that Symbian able to use the GPU as a GPGPU(General Purpose GPU)?
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Not GPU like in desktop. GPU like Broadcom GPU whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 28 2010, 11:09 AM)
Not GPU like in desktop. GPU like Broadcom GPU whistling.gif
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Symbian able to use Boardcom GPU as a GPGPU..? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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well.. 1st thing 1st.. N8 wasnt mean to be a ipho.. u know what,whats more "first" then the 1st ( if that make any sense laugh.gif ) for the love of all things mighty! STOP reviewing UNRELEASED product! doh.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 28 2010, 12:10 PM)
Symbian able to use Boardcom GPU as a GPGPU..?  whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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Yeah thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 28 2010, 11:10 AM)
Symbian able to use Boardcom GPU as a GPGPU..?  whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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well..hardware video decoding already counts as GPGPU...so yeah

QUOTE(Revamperz @ Sep 28 2010, 11:11 AM)
well.. 1st thing 1st.. N8 wasnt mean to be a ipho.. u know what,whats more "first" then the 1st ( if that make any sense laugh.gif ) for the love of all things mighty! STOP reviewing UNRELEASED product! doh.gif
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agree on that..it just doesnt make sense to bash a product just because they keep delaying..and i really want to see how Symbian 3 would compare against android and iOS..after all, i think this would be the mainstream OS for nokia

looking on how snappy the C5 is with 600Mhz without a GPU, i think 680Mhz is enough for everyday usage, and for gaming, there will be the broadcom GPU. The rest would just be developer's support for games and nice apps.
(but i still think if they can dump in 1Ghz it'll be damn sweet)

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 28 2010, 11:13 AM)
Yeah thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Sep 28 2010, 11:15 AM)
well..hardware video decoding already counts as GPGPU...so yeah
agree on that..it just doesnt make sense to bash a product just because they keep delaying..and i really want to see how Symbian 3 would compare against android and iOS..after all, i think this would be the mainstream OS for nokia
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wah.. . so geng so geng... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Video decoding counts as GPGPU... wao.. this is new to me also...

My 15 years old MPEG card is a GPGPU!! rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 28 2010, 11:18 AM)
wah.. . so geng so geng...  thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Video decoding counts as GPGPU...   wao.. this is new to me also... 

My 15 years old MPEG card is a GPGPU!!   rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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doh.gif

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w...PU#Applications

read under "Video processing"

and ur MPEG card is dedicated to just video processing, while GPGPU means use GPU to do other things... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Sep 28 2010, 11:20 AM)
doh.gif

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w...PU#Applications

read under "Video processing"

and ur MPEG card is dedicated to just video processing, while GPGPU means use GPU to do other things...  rclxub.gif
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good la.. I hope every single new application for symbian can drain resource from the GPU... else the arm11 really... yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Sep 28 2010, 11:15 AM)
well..hardware video decoding already counts as GPGPU...so yeah
agree on that..it just doesnt make sense to bash a product just because they keep delaying..and i really want to see how Symbian 3 would compare against android and iOS..after all, i think this would be the mainstream OS for nokia

looking on how snappy the C5 is with 600Mhz without a GPU, i think 680Mhz is enough for everyday usage, and for gaming, there will be the broadcom GPU. The rest would just be developer's support for games and nice apps.
(but i still think if they can dump in 1Ghz it'll be damn sweet)
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tak kira lah... i just want it to run smooth and dont hitch hitch here hitch hitch there.... who give a dam on the MHz/GHz if all run smooth without lag those number just for show only.... whistling.gif

hehe... to tell the truth are all those 1GHz processor really run at that speed ALL the time?? tongue.gif
my previous Conroe i even down clock some more down voltage it to run at 900MHz when idling and 3.3GHz when over clock... whistling.gif

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選Nokia最差手機 N8上榜

諾基亞對N8的期望和信心甚高,揚言N8至少可以賣出5000萬部。然而這款在硬件配置、功能方面被喻為重量級「巨獸」的手機,卻不被市場看好。分析師認為,作為和蘋果iPhone 4對抗的旗艦機,N8創新大多停留在表面,缺乏理念的根本改革,例如依然使用流動互聯網性能欠佳的Symbian作業系統。美國博客Business insider評選諾基亞最差的10款手機,N8赫然上榜,理由是:「最新的高端智能手機,未發布就過時了」。

HTC本周推新機

分析指,蘋果擁有超強的Apps及貼心的用戶界面,而Android對移動互聯網的適應性強。相反,諾基亞的Symbian系統生存周期太長,設計之初並沒有流動互聯網的概念。


5 million nos of N8... wow... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 28 2010, 11:27 AM)
tak kira lah... i just want it to run smooth and dont hitch hitch here hitch hitch there.... who give a dam on the MHz/GHz if all run smooth without lag those number just for show only....  whistling.gif

hehe... to tell the truth are all those 1GHz processor really run at that speed ALL the time?? tongue.gif
my previous Conroe i even down clock some more down voltage it to run at 900MHz when idling and 3.3GHz when over clock...  whistling.gif
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i think it would run at lower clock speed at normal times, only when they need the extra power they will go to max clock..save battery mah

but i still think it's always better to have more performance lar, especially we have PSX4All right now..wanna see FF VII runs at N8 lol
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Sep 28 2010, 11:32 AM)
i think it would run at lower clock speed at normal times, only when they need the extra power they will go to max clock..save battery mah

but i still think it's always better to have more performance lar, especially we have PSX4All right now..wanna see FF VII runs at N8 lol
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it run on N97 mah.... but u have to turn ur body clock 4x slower jek...
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i think if nokia wants to fight back in OS war, there is one thing they should do in the future, unify all their symbian versions....don do like pre FP1, FP1, FP2 in Symbian s60 right now

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