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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY

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post Oct 8 2010, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Haihzz @ Oct 8 2010, 09:44 AM)
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I took this out from an article from THESUN.. sorry to break the non - THESUN article, but.. this is rather true in some ways.  hmm.. He failed to include Robbie Keane though..  whistling.gif
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The money spent by RAFA was a series small accumulated transfer fund over many years. RAFA had to sell and buy.
Chelsea/ManU/ManC can spend huge lump sum in a transfer of player.
The Sun took it out of context.
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 8 2010, 10:58 AM)
I'd have smacked him on the head if I knew where he was going to take us back then.
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Hahaha... this sounds hilarious. Joke of the day. laugh.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Haihzz @ Oct 8 2010, 02:16 PM)
Sorry for the mess I cause, Well alot of the theories from the article is fully blown and well bombarded. sorry for ruckus.

But still I still can't come out with excuse for Keane and the Aquaman..

Johnson too, still a doubt to me with his price tag.

well maybe like it's down to the tagline " mistake and flaws are part of the game"

Arbeloa and Alonso ..is well missed here.
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Keane was a great player before he joined Liverpool.
He turned out to be a flop and still is until this very day. It was a right decision getting rid of him.

We see the quality in Aquaman. I didn't really doubt signing him (I think Rafa's first choice was Gareth Barry but he chose ManC). I only doubt current manager shipped him out on loan at Juventus.

Arbeloa had one more year on his contract. Rafa wanted 10million. The only reason Rafa sold him cheap is Liverpool became desperate in getting rid of players (after signing 18m tagged Johnson) as Liverpool did not have the "luxury" to keep both Johnson & Arbeloa.

Alonso spent 5 seasons with Liverpool. He was not really "shine" in 3.5 seasons (he was slow & injury prone). He did brilliant in the last 1.5 seasons (he did especially well after the arrival of Torres. He was brilliant in that position behind both Gerrard & Torres. He didn't have the pace but he's master of passing!). However, it was too late. Rafa wanted to sell him 2 seasons before he left for RM (Rafa wanted a Lampard-like Gareth Barry with pace, ability to score goals and less injury prone). Damage had already been done.

Rafa is not perfect.
Rafa did make mistakes but I can see he was working on a perfect jigsaw with limited transfer fund.

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post Oct 8 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 8 2010, 05:13 PM)
Standard chartered stadium...

RBS stadium...

HSBC stadium...

CIMB stadium...


Added on October 8, 2010, 5:16 pm

Morientes?Riera?

the only great signing from him is Xabi Alonso.and Ferdinand of course
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The traitor, Michael Owen, joined RM.
Cisse broke his leg in October. Milan Baros was the only striker we had.
Liverpool had to sign RM's bench warmer, Morientes, in January transfer window.

Riera was decent player but it seems he had foul mouth.
He & Rafa couldn't get along.

Other great signings, Reina, Mascherano, Agger, Benayoun and Riera.

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post Oct 8 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 8 2010, 06:03 PM)
United player got no handsome player other than Hernandez
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I think Owen Hargreaves has a much better look.
He should have a pretty face after he changes his curly hairstyle.

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post Oct 13 2010, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Oct 13 2010, 02:43 PM)
Maxi gone take Kuyt's position?  doh.gif More problems n is Konchesky/Aurelio fit?  sweat.gif Wrong time to get injured, it seems to be a bad year for Kuyt, 2 injuries in a row n both wif international team...
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We had the same problem last season when our key players were out injured.
Isn't it obvious our team lack of depth? We certainly need additional 4-5 "international class" players.
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post Oct 13 2010, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Oct 13 2010, 02:57 PM)
Aurelio just played 30 mins with the reserves the other day, but I guess he isn't 100% fit yet...

Konchesky should be back soon.

We have depth, but all the while the players didn't step up when the important 1st teamers are out thats why...Babel or Maxi can temporarily take Kuyt's place, and I hope either of them can prove their worth. Or else Meireles can fill in the spot for the time being.
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Look at the last few games, we had to play Kelly and Carra as LB.
We were repeatedly embarrassed by the opponents.
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post Oct 17 2010, 10:30 PM

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Carra just can't play as RB & LB. His move is so predictable.

Maxi should be substituted during half time.
I find Babel deserves to be a starting line up.

Gerrard played like headless chicken and made many mistakes.
He back pass to Lucas could cost us a goal.

The best player on the field is, Skrtel.
He is like Agger / Mascherano hybrid.

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post Oct 17 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 17 2010, 09:58 PM)
If there's any positives to take from this match, a loss will only justify and further strnegthen the reason to sack Uncle ROY and appoint Kenny Dalglish or somone capable to run the team.

But the damage has been done, and even if we crawled back in the 2nd half of the season, players like Tores and Reina are bound for the exit door...
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Something positive?
Agger and Skrtel are very good pair of "attacking" CB.
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post Oct 18 2010, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Oct 18 2010, 02:31 AM)
hey guys,is it relevant to gv more time to RH since is jz a few month here?or the expectation is just too high?
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You can get bashed for that one-liner.
We're at 19th, is that high expectation?
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post Oct 18 2010, 12:58 PM

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Aquilani scored for Juventus.
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post Oct 18 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 18 2010, 03:06 PM)
My post was directed at anyone taking the mickey out of those of us who thought that Rafa had taken us as far as he could. What blew my top however is indirect accusations that Hodgson's appointment was our fault. If you look at koolspyda's (whom I've met in person) posts, it always ends with "hope you anti-Rafa supporters are happy". I don't like to snap at people I've met personally, so I hope he can explain to me how Hodgson's appointment was the direct result of Rafa leaving?
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It is a general perception.
No worries, we have this kind of debate all over the world among Liverpool fans.
http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=207535
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post Oct 18 2010, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 18 2010, 05:01 PM)
What scares me is this. In the games we have played at home, even when the visitors were West Brom and Blackpool, they actually came out and attacked us, seeking all 3 pts. When was the last time so called inferior opposition came to Anfield playing attacking football? The way we set out these days under Hodgson, it's as though we are afraid of them in our own home no less. Here's betting that Blackburn will come at us next week.
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The formation is so predictable - we are just playing too deep.
We will get bombarded from any team from all directions if we keep playing deep.
With the current formation, we just pray Torres can dribble past 4 defenders and score us a goal or Kygriakos scores a header from corner.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Oct 18 2010, 07:57 PM)
but personally, i think hyypia leaving plays a bigger role, because our defense became bad in one single summer. we lost someone with a clear head in the backline, the experience to deal with difficult balls and crosses, and we lost the aerial battles. skrtel and agger may be still considered young for CBs, and the inexperience shows. carra, like i said, had overachieved beside hyypia for seasons. i used to say that skrtel is a direct replacement for carra (who was a replacement for henchoz; the player who always make the dirty tackles) while agger will replace the finn (the clean cut slower-paced player who dribbles and passes). when hyypia left skrtel went in to partner carra and we see two hotheads battling with 21 other players on the pitch whenever the ball floats near them, which in turn creating havoc in our own defensive line. hyypia saved our a$$ too many times by reading the game well (and thus ending the attacks before they become a threat) but nobody noticed that when carra was the one doing the last-ditch tackles. perhaps we took him for granted? soto is clearly not of hyypia's mold, and when the greek came in we have 3 hotheaded defenders in the squad.
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I don't think Hyypia played a big role in our defence.
He is just as good as Carra. Not better.
Hyypia has passed his prime. He's getting slow. I still remember he scored few own-goals before he left Liverpool.
(Note: He might do well in Bundesliga like Voronin but not in EPL. Carra is kinda slow too.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9309_Premier_League
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Premier_League
Don't forget, Carra did play like headless chicken last season and also injuries of both Agger and Skrtel last season.
We were still one of the best in defending goals last season.

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post Oct 19 2010, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(ProbMan @ Oct 19 2010, 12:31 PM)
RH couldn't be as bad as what people think he is. If people have abit of thought like/such as Rafa managing Fulham, will the outcome be better? I don't think so... Or playing for a derby game on opponents' ground (troubling time with a bunch of crybabies superstars to the addition), what dya expect a "sure win"? RH says even a coach with a magic wand won't save u guys, man...Have some patience and at least move up the table from Home games with some "faith" mentality because EPL is still a long way to go.
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Faith? EPL still long way to go?
Those words remind me of someone, the hybrid of rclxm9.gif Digi-Hodgson doh.gif
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post Oct 19 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(ProbMan @ Oct 19 2010, 02:34 PM)
Yeah, by singing all the YNWA will make u the greatest fans in the whole world? Get a grip man... at least im bloody sure Liverpool wont be relegated by just merely 1 manager. This will be the fact.
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Liverpool won't be relegated by just mere 1 manager? This will be the fact?
How can you tell it's a fact? Fortune-telling?
The fact is we are in 19th place.


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post Oct 20 2010, 05:42 PM

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Who is going to play RB? Carra?
Suicidal!
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post Oct 21 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Oct 21 2010, 10:54 AM)
but in second half, spurs came back 3 goals.. we have to look forward rather than lingering the past. always look forward to the new manager.. i mean the Chilean not RH!!!
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It's either Maicon was sleeping or Gareth Bale was just too good to beat.
It's not common to see a LB to score a hattrick.

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