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mivecwira
post Dec 2 2010, 10:25 AM

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Hi guys..

dn knw my freaking old 4g91 auto junk become sluggish after changed the plug,engine oil+filter,service the throttle body,engine tuning...shit like tortoise d climb slow slow when at lowest gears (1st and 2nd)

Any1 can help...
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post Dec 2 2010, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 2 2010, 10:33 AM)
thr are 3 possibility,
1st, the spark plug u change for nw is in low quality..
should get something at less platinum..

2nd, maybe the engine oil u use for nw is not suitable for ur engine..
better use semi type oil...

3th, engine tunning problem.. tongue.gif
how they tune for u?
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rclxms.gif thx bro for the reply... rclxms.gif

1) hmm the plug using the same type as previous type (nt mistaken denso)..quality ok gua...but the old plugs all can seen the oil at the "skru area"..might be engine oil seeping in...any bad side of this symptoms? overhaul?

2) engine oil?use mineral-shell (yellow) since get to knw gt some white smoke..but checked gt overfilled of tat oil..(previous too same overfilled but the car acceleration stil ok wor..nw even worst) hmm.gif

3) tuning? hmm.gif they use sm machine (kinda like portable square tv) attached to the plug cables and c on tat screen reading then adjusted bit of alternator regards/due to the torched light on the aircon/steering belt... might be of the alternator adjusted affect the performance? sweat.gif

Anyway stil survive to reached the top hill of Genting just nw...but need struggle a lot..luckily temp. nt increase tat high... tongue.gif
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post Dec 4 2010, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 3 2010, 01:18 AM)
is 90 degrees right turn around residential areas, thats my limits  cry.gif 
yaya, normal 90 degrees right turn around residential areas...  If road curves can do > 120km/h tongue.gif  dare nt go too hard.. safety come 1st~
sweat.gif shakehead.gif i am slow~... cry.gif
sport spring = harder than normal
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1) wat material? let us knw the price? if 200+- its iridium spark~ very good d..

2) i recommend u BHP 10w40 semi oil... performance oil brows.gif

3) tuning, i m not professional, so thats had beyond my knowledge.. hehe, cant help u that
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1) Hmm cheap normal denso je...

2) ok sure will have a try next time..

3) Heii is nt alternator...is distributor they adjusted..any1 knw/clarify if distributor will affected the performance o nt? car damn slow response in lowest gear and gear changes nt smooth at all...

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post Dec 4 2010, 09:13 PM

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Added on December 4, 2010, 7:20 pm

1) don kedekut... haha.. if i am u, straight get another new set.. denso iridium, if with tide budget, get ngk platinum, rm80-rm90 i think...
will c the different..

2) gogogo thumbup.gif

3) A distributor is a device in the ignition system of an internal combustion engine that routes high voltage from the ignition coil to the spark plugs in the correct firing order. The first reliable battery operated ignition was developed by Dayton Engineering Laboratories Co. (Delco) and introduced in the 1910 Cadillac. This ignition was developed by Charles Kettering and was considered a wonder in its day. (defined by wikipedia)
so i guess mostly 80% they adjust till ur timing not at the correct 1 gua.. (maybe la) laugh.gif
and do check for ur voltage of ur car.. battery kong maybe?
or maybe ur alternator/dynamo kong soon? get a wira 1.8 punya alternator should produce more voltage for ur car.. whistling.gif
better change another workshop n let them check for u..

all the best icon_rolleyes.gif
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Plug? hmm i think will try on next service..yala pokai d..so need a tight budget on service this and tat... brows.gif

Hmm so u meant tat distributor will effected the performance in term of electricity rite? hmm ya might be the timing nt adjusted in the proper range..but seems ok wo during drive..just the gear changed nt smooth-heavier to accelarate(struggle) in lowest gear.

Battery? oh ya..its already almost 2year and already died last few month ago-is cheapo MF batt then but recharge back to the tyre shop and walaaa stil can be use til nw.. icon_rolleyes.gif

Alternator already changed more than half year ago so ok wa...and before tat changed brought Delco brand MF batt sweat.gif at the acc shop so left it unused until the cheapo batt died but after recharged gt it use back again til nw..

The strange things was this Delco just serve a while and died later so w/o hesitate much gt it charge and left under the bonet til nw..so is it ok to left it unused in the car? whistling.gif

This post has been edited by mivecwira: Dec 4 2010, 09:29 PM
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post Dec 5 2010, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 4 2010, 10:12 PM)
from my experience, plug really very important~ biggrin.gif

and my question is, u are drving and auto? or manual?? wink.gif

if auto, i am sure ur electric of ur car is not sufficient, or not strong enof, sweat.gif
i am going to get a Voltage stabilizer soon,
becoz i heard ppl said vs that sold by 1 fellow here is good, will increase the smoothness for auto car gear changing~
donno la.. for me, i will get a 70s battery rather than 60s.. haha,, coz the size also bigger,
if ur alternator die, at less u still can drive for few more km until u reach ur mechanic  tongue.gif
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Heheh..ok noted on the plugs...save first then change it during next service...

Bro i'm driving 4g91 auto with the half spoiled throttle body (added vaccum-sm kinda FICD function to control idle),o/hauled the g/box, changed to bigger aircon compressor, my junk produce a bit of white smoke (need top o/haul together when reach the timing belt changing-1 shot ma).. so might be have some lack of performance of this junk... cry.gif

Hmm already install VS and 5pnt GC..for the 1st time ya is good though but lama-lama cam x use loll...maybe is my wild instinct...

Batt...yup is using the cheapo NS70 MF rite nw.. hmm.gif

Replaced the Delco batt during tat time tot that cheapo bat problems but it was the alternator KOed..Surprising the car can be drive for bout 40+ km...wow gd wo this Delco bat... flex.gif

But before the service the car performance quite ok since it was after the service seems x tat good d..(changed mineral engine oil, spark plugs-previous old plugs float with oil,engine tuning, serviced tb..)

I'm serviced the car at Perak so cant gt back to that mechanic since i'm at KL rite nw..need to wait after gt back then will ask him and c... cool2.gif

Heard tat if the car eat engine oil the car performance will nt tat strong rite? Haiz repair lollll...All RM RM RM.... cry.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 5 2010, 03:44 PM)
bro, u transplant new engine in?
or u bought 2nd hand car wif mivec d?
i also plan to get 1 lastime, i am fall in love wif a mivec 4g92 satria lastime, but its not worth for me, rm18k for a 95 year satria..
haiz.. n my mum dont wan me to get 2 door 1.
so in the end, look for wira.. haha.. i like wira or satria actually, n got 1 white year 93 mivec 1.6 wira for sell too, price rm14k..
during test drive, fed up..
gb got kong symptoms,
so.. lastly, after some discussion with my gf bro, he suggest me to get a ori 1.6..
coz some fellow after mod mivec engine n got lots of issues about tat, then fed up n sell them off..
so, getting an ori 1.6 can avoid the rise...
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anyway, i like my current 4g92p..
coz the previous owner kept it well.. n it serve me for 8 months d..
but thr are some minor problems, like the LEG of the car, all wear n tear parts, for a 13 years old car.. is like tat de lo..
i bought it wif 14k on the road n now already spend more than 7k to keep maintain it..
since i am still a student, its a huge bills for me...
but serious speaking, i like my car very much thumbup.gif
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Bro nt mivec la..old dinosaur 4g91 wo...1.5 only...brought it 2nd car already with this engine..gt symptoms g/b kong and deducted some prices of it..

Ya old car need some cash to spend on wear+part..hmm total lost i think nt as higher as urs..mine just o/haul gb, both drive shaft, air con comp., some minor parts...

Anyway is my own car..wat to do..love it as it was be... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 5 2010, 04:47 PM)
wah.. how come fc increase huh? so, wat model u are driving?
i think he use both gc and vs, deng! he make me lose confident to eric items.. @@ nw start to confuse d.. haiz.. doh.gif
u mean ori engine 4g15 ar? from wat i knw, 4g91 = mivec, not meh? hehe.. @@ confuse lo..
yaya.. love it as ur 2nd gf.. hahaha
u gt both vs and gc from eric? no performance boots??
wat injection cheaner do u mean? can u plz show some link about the product u mean? finally gt some pro here thumbup.gif
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Hmm mivec is differ from my junk 4g91...mivec is 4g92 Dohc whereas normal wira 1.6 was 4g92P Sohc...mivec have better tech aka vtec function when reaching some speed..nt tat pro in here..may google or many sifu here can clarify on tis icon_question.gif

Ya those gadget sm kinda for good appearance look only..being brain wash wa..heheh..but sm how during tat 1st time usage of VS+GC, was really have sm gd effect...but lama lama later..either feel nothing or looks messy in ur engine bay...

Ya want to knw wats the injector cleaner tat u mentioned..cheapo type as sold at jusco/tesco can be use? blush.gif


Added on December 5, 2010, 11:42 pm
QUOTE(kyheng @ Dec 5 2010, 05:54 PM)
My 2003 Wira's has been more or less the same from day 1 I got it. As said, regular maintenance on rotating parts(gear oil, lube oil, power steering oil, brake fluid) is the only way.
I want to stress that, I never install any GC or VS, all remain standard except 2 very thick power cable for my audio system. Also, I'm using thicker(9.5mm I guess?) plug cable with Bosch Super 4.
As for injection cleaner, I'll get what ever brand that cost me <rm20. So far the best injection cleaner I've used is Wynn's, but it cost me rm3+. Next to this that quite good for me is 3M(rm18). Injection cleaner you can get them on spare parts shop, just ask them and they will show you....
Human will always tells lies but your car won't.
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ooppss oh find out d...wynn's...3M...will gv a try then...

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mivecwira
post Dec 6 2010, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 12:10 AM)
i thought mivec got 1.5 also? 4g91?
haha.. yup, dohc got better max speed or performe better during highspeed than sohc..
but i do not wish to modify engine yet..
the most is playing wif plug, filter, engine oil, cable, and stabilizer bar those...
if wan mod engine also wait till my engine dies..
haha..

mivecwira bro seems like sayang his car too,
i'm going to gv a try on those oil..
but whr should i pour them to?
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Aii bro wat to do my earn hard money...need sayang as ur life ma..x car x life bro..heheh....


Added on December 6, 2010, 12:36 am
QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 12:22 AM)
haha.. no wonder i heard many ppl take about mivec 4g91..
somemore many said not good pickup..
ahaha..
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then wats mivecwira bro engine actually?
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Using auto 4g91 only..yup gd as top speed but lack on pick up...need modify a bit to regain the pick up...

This post has been edited by mivecwira: Dec 6 2010, 12:36 AM
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post Dec 6 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 12:28 AM)
They are 4g91 as my old junk use it...nice leh...heheh... tongue.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(maxgenesis @ Dec 6 2010, 12:31 AM)
1.6 4g91... proton mia
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1.5 bro..unless u rojak with other 1.6 head...
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post Dec 6 2010, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 12:38 AM)
but the engine head for both 4g91 wrote mitsu wo...@@
i asked my fren about the gc.. they said if rm30 they wan~ lol.. i fcuk 9 them d tongue.gif

haha, agree with u dude..
i am wondering those carefour brand injector cleaner can use ar?
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Bro u try 1st..later ~~ i will follow uuuu...~~~ laugh.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 12:41 AM)
hehe.. then wats ur max speed? 260? brows.gif
look awesome laugh.gif
but since the head wrote mitsu, then should be mitsu 1.5 mar.. not meh?
@@" i am blur~ shakehead.gif
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where gt 260?? Dare not to exceed 150..damn the car can push further til max... rclxms.gif But life is still young... blush.gif

Haha origin is 1.5 DOHC engine..Hmm ya quite confusing coz appearance look all mitsu kinda the same (4g92,93)..U may google up the image of those..sure rclxub.gif more...anyway love the car as it was own...

Copy bulat2? nola..4g91 is 1.5 16v dohc engine while normal 1.5 4g15 is 12v sohc..nt tat same..seems cut cost or divert a bit..scared being raped by those japanese kua.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 6 2010, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 12:51 AM)
hehe.. i c i c..
u own it since when?
new car till now ar?? i learn something new 2day.. lol..
then ur car follow 1.5 suspension or 1.6 1?
coz i found that 1.6 n 1.5 body look same but atually quite different, 1.6 1 more solid..
means more to comfort drive.. blush.gif
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Nola own it about 2years jor...brought it 2nd hand..

suspension still ori 1.5...tot wanna change the suspension to 1.6 set up or normal sport spring..yup urs 1.6 is much more solid better compare to my 1.5..
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post Dec 6 2010, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(1337 @ Dec 6 2010, 12:59 AM)
Hi all wira owners, my family own proton wira 1.5 4g91 year 95.bought new at year 96.

The car is 100 standard...my father got install surbo and stormberg cool.gif
Since we got newer car now,I use this car to commute to go somewhere near only.
I want to ask few things.

Why does the engine not stable(tend to die-if open a/c sure die-) and no power to move during cold start?How to fix?
Since the car shaky with the gear D+brake,I suspect the engine mounting need to change.Is it?
There's white smoke(not heavy) come out from the exhaust during idle.What to do?

I wish to do something to make the car feel new.Its a good car,never been brake down before.Engine and gearbox never been overhaul blink.gif
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Same year/spec of ur car as mine...

Wow installed surbo+stomberg spark plugs...sure good d...

Engine nt stable? might be ur throttle body dirty d or KOed (as mine-need add those FICD to control the idle but better change it to even bigger TB..)Hmm y nt u just service/clean up the TB 1st and c wats happen then..change the interval engine oil+plugs d?

Cold start? hmm normal kut as g/b nt yet use to it...just wake up ma.. blush.gif Nola might be sm culprit...maybe sm sifu here can help...

White smoke? during morning start (is condense vapour), is the car eating/consume engine oil lot (might be need top overhaul/leaking coolant)

Just my 2cent..still newbie... notworthy.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(maxgenesis @ Dec 6 2010, 01:10 AM)
u really ahh 4g13 = 1.3; 4g15 = 1.5, 4g91 = 1.5 putra, 4g92p = 1.6 sohc, 4g92 = 1.6 dohc
yes proton is copy bulat2 is juz the tunning like combustion etc is by proton rclxub.gif
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tot putra using 4g93p as those gti..or i missing smwhere? icon_question.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 01:03 AM)
haha, u gonna ask pro mr mivecwira since he is driving the same car with u.. haha..
surbo and stormberg perform good?
haha, mind to tell me hw much when u bought? if ps share me in pm.. haha..
no no no   sweat.gif
different car got different advantage.. so do urs..
my 1.6 juz sohc.. n ur 4g91 is dohc bro.. don compare..
compare compare later die hard.. haha biggrin.gif
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Huiii i'm nt pro la...based on my own experience only..

wooh wooh smtime i feel better to buy 1.6..but wat to do, was my fate on this 4g91 1.5 16v DOHC..heheh..anyway each have its own strength..sure serve u well then gd d...

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post Dec 6 2010, 01:32 AM

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heii is this vcapa u all mentioned? can trust or nt? cheap leh..

http://www.mudah.my/Pivot+Vcapa-7853459.htm
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post Dec 6 2010, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 01:33 AM)
wtf..! so cheap... a fellow quote me rm78 deng!!
lucky mivec kawan found tis @@
i dont think its really work..
8 i wan its volt meter!! haha


Added on December 6, 2010, 1:35 am
u gonna take 1 too? only 2 i don think he will gv u discount lo..
u nit to let me knw the price 1st ba,,
i cant jz promise blindly.. later when u tell me rm200@@..
then i ffk u d.. haha
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treat me lim teh la.. rclxms.gif since u can save up half Rm38 of it...heard smwhere said tat vs just made up by simple set up of transistors and led...well how true was it..? saw in this forum-sm said is useable, sm said useless...so is up to own pocket lolll... nod.gif
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post Dec 6 2010, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 01:41 AM)
50+- har? u sure har? then i ON d..
but hang on...
whr u stay??
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Refer to maxgenesis signature wrote tat puchong selangor and hmtwn melaka.. whistling.gif

Sorry saja kacau since cant sleep rite nw.. notworthy.gif

woohh yooo u guys so fast reply d..really fast and furious...

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post Dec 6 2010, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Dec 6 2010, 01:47 AM)
haha, no kacau, but i gonna sleep soon~ having internship now.. 2mr 9am work again~ sien.. cry.gif
mivec u stay whr?
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Heii u guys try tat product 1st if really gd then wanna have some present to my junk..

Perak la..but gt come to kl smtimes.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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