Ok, I never know that the market was actually monopolised until now...still Symbian.

...but Android is coming up... very strong.


http://www.telecoms.com/22493/as-smartphon...-ousts-symbian/

Symbian is dead long time ago, just because Android is still quite new in market, now it's chasing up.

I still find my Symbian-based N86 more reliable than my Android HTC Hero. Android phones don't seem to work with my home router WAG54G2 properly. Also sometimes when it says "Connected to Mobile Network", it's still not really connected.

Can't wait to test Symbian^3...

I think I know what is your problem. WAG I assumed is Linksys?

What is the encryption protocol used??

Using WEP. My Hero can connect the first time, but if I disconnect or leave the area it cannot connect anymore. I have to restart the router.

None of my other gadgets have this problem.

isn't it supposed to be 'connect to wifi'?

mobile network is our mobile network eg maxis, celcom, digi internet service

You turned on both Mobile Network & Wifi. You have to turn off mobile network or else your phone will juggle between the 2 which ever have active connection.

I owned E63 previously & I hate it when it decided to connect gprs by itself when connecting to wifi. In Android, off stays off.

This post has been edited by alpha0201: Sep 21 2010, 12:59 PM

older generation that uses nokia won't want to spend RM2K for a new phone.

new generation won't spend RM2K on outdated symbian, with iphone and android around.

I'll see how nokia answer/fail to both challenges. I can't see how symbian^3 is going to rescue nokia

i'm not using Nokia / symbian phone since 2003

This post has been edited by sjn hassan: Sep 21 2010, 01:23 PM

Who doesn't. Most of iPhone & Android phone users were & still Symbian owners.

Before my SGS I was on Nokia 6630 for about 6 years...

Android is overtaking Symbian real quick.

typos bro..should be NOT USING

Ah i see.

Anyway, all I see in Symbian^3 is just an updated version of Symbian OS 9.x.

depends on your needs loh, if camera freak, android still lagging behind on that.

i guess its more of a s60v5 make over..

Symbian has very little hope currently..Here is my prediction:

Soon, the top will be Android, followed by iOS, then RIM. These two will be the top leaders of the board..Following this will be Win7, then Symbian 3, followed by MeeGo..

There is ONLY ONE way for Nokia to sustain the top ranking of being the mobile phone giant..Join Android revolution..

Nokia should do a Samsung Galaxy S. Pack an uber spec flagship phone for Android and they'll see how great the sale will be. Then compare the sales with the N8 and Nokia forget about Symbian.

Do Nokia dare to admit Symbian is obsolete?

Nokia is falling, same with Symbian.. go & see how fast the price of those Symbian & Nokia phones drop..

Obsolete?
No, Symbian is still pretty good, for a keypad phone. However, Nokia was stubborn and cut off S90 and Maemo despite having better UI for touch interaction. They went back with S60 with a slap-on Touch Interaction which makes it non interesting. If only they give it up and went on with S90 or Maemo, I think they should have fare better.

No la bro, Android will automatically choose wifi over mobile data. Android also understand the fact that mobile data is expensive....

WEP then should be ok what... Last time I faced problem when using WPA.

anyway, your problem is weird... but why restart router only work and not restart your Hero? .... Android is smarter ma...

Sorry la, dunno what's is your problem dy.

Sometimes its quite hard to notice if you step into outer weak wifi zone then it will automatically switch to mobile data. Last time I used Symbian & Win Mo, I had to make the mobile network setting wrong for it to stop eating my wallet. Even my old iPhone 2G I have to install 3rd party s/w as the standard setting can't disable mobile network.

At least with stock android when it's off, it stays off.

Actually Symbian has an option to set the connection to ALWAYS ASK if thats your preferred way to connect to the internet, each and every time it requires data connection.

yes, it's possible. my wife's E71 always ask which connection to use.

I still don't understand why Nokia is so reluctant to use android. I seriously doubt symbian^3 will rescue Nokia

Using desire now.

Current Nokia Suite still wwwayyyyyyyy forward compare to Andriod's sync.

Why do Nokia want to join them? Nokia is not that bad really... just choosen the wrong path to walk nia...

Never find sync function is anything nice to use... I have everything in the phone instead...

I think Nokia Ovi (or PC Suite) is quite crappy anyway (I would prefer to sync between PC and phone with simple cable and "Disk mode")

Cloud computing is the way to go

Anyway, Nokia says "Using Android is like peeing in your pants for warmth in winter" (i.e., short term solution)
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/nokia-u...-in-winter/9772

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Added on September 22, 2010, 12:04 pmI thought they are going to concentrate on Meego in future, not Symbian^3?

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Sep 22 2010, 12:04 PM

Yes, I was describing more than one problem. Sorry I wasn't clear. Besides WiFi, I sometimes have problems with the Mobile Network internet connection. It will display E or H, and says it's connected, but I can't browse or surf. To solve this I have to wait a while, restart toggle the Mobile Internet or restart my Hero.

It shouldn't matter, a lot of my friends turn both on, and Android should select WiFi only. The problem is even if I only use WiFi, it has trouble connecting to my WAG54G2.

I dont ever want to use a sync app again. I am so used to cloud syncing that having a sync apo will make things looks bad. Who needs a computer when you can sync to a server. I can sync my info while being in another country far from my computer. Thats the way it should be.

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Added on September 22, 2010, 4:13 pmAnd yes, android does give priority to wifi over mobile data. It will only switch when the wifi is not active. Also, wifi uses more power than mobile data. When your phone is in sleep mode, it will switch to mobile data to conserve battery. If this is not desirable (in other words, ur not a digi subscriber ), then a tap of button is all u need to switch off mobile data altogether

This post has been edited by shahz: Sep 22 2010, 04:13 PM

I dunno why but after I watched all the videos about Symbian^3 on N8 and E7.. I fell like... Might say that the UI is still boring.. It's still majority belong to Nokia anyway..
Not like Android.. "OWH! This's HTC! This's Samsung! That's Motorola! That's Acer! What? Dell?" Various of nice UI can be found without sweating your head thinking either "I want this NOKIA or that NOKIA?"
Come on Nokia.. You're a leader before.. And why not just give any more creative designer to design your OS interfaces.. The veteran should do better than the newbie (Android and Apple)..
Just take a look at upcoming Windows Phone 7..

@alpha0201, Wow is that Stig being toyed by Cameron and Tom? Which episode is this? Some says he's Michael Schumacher

This post has been edited by lingch: Sep 23 2010, 08:48 AM

you are off topic. anyway, it's top gear season 15 episode 5 if not mistaken. it's the second final episode.

anyway, i think Nokia is putting off symbian 3 and maemo 5 as a testbed where they can get more user feedback for meego.

which ever it is, my next phone won't be Nokia even though I've been using Nokia for the past 10 years.

Nokia symbian might not be the most supreme OS out there right now, but many ppl started off using smartphone because of nokia. To said nokia will be fully abandon will not be true as many ppl still not get used to the new software. Eg android n ios. All i can say is nokia market will still be there even though is getting smaller.

Nevertheless, Nokia is still one of the best (if not "the" best) companies for getting the "basic" right (good reception, build quality, battery life)

It's losing market share because nowadays, people want more than just the basic

...something like even why my colleague say iPhone is nice?

My father and sister still using Nokia, they find smart phones too complicated.

But my someone someone grandfather is using iPhone~

Symbian is DEAD, my last symbian is N73, after N73 (which means after year 2006) I abandon not only Symbian but Nokia as well, because no innovative on Nokia at all.

Symbian ^3??? Ha! Ha! It just a brother edition of Symbian S60v5. Nothing special about it except slightly pretty Interface.

Nokia just having a slight improvement on Meego (even thought that device is stupid did almost everythings in landscape mode).

If Nokia want to save itself, Nokia needs puts more on Meego (I forgot what the name it change after the release of N900).

Stop continue developed on dead product "Symbian".

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Sep 24 2010, 10:50 PM

nokia wont be abandon.... their not so smart phone will live on.... since those lower and entry phone of theirs are so cheap. U can get a decent phone for RM200+- with color, camera and plus plus.... and most important it is reliable as a phone. So Nokia will live..... the one need to becareful is Apple.... their OS has been seriously threaten by Android.... and guess most ppl there are like the comic below

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple

yesterday fren come my house wit shes iphone. i just found out iphone cant connect to my router which hav more than 20 character password with WPA2 TKIP and AES encryption.

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Added on September 25, 2010, 5:12 pmlol. the link "0300078 " give is funny.

This post has been edited by xngjn: Sep 25 2010, 05:12 PM

i since last day afternoon no useing symbian aready...(cause trading my e72 to motorola milestone xt720)..the android frist feeling giveing to me is....its juz like an apple os but its more popular and not juz 1 brand of phone juz can use (no like apple) and i found many app in android market and i can see a lot of app inside the App store too....symbian was begin to failed cause it Ovi store not perfect eought compaired to android and app store~and more important ...almost 90% app in android market is FREE!!!

It's actually 57%.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/05/andro...most-free-apps/

Not exactly more popular. I'm pretty sure more people are aware of iPhone than Android.

i think he meant more opened since more manufacturer are using Android, but iOS is only used by Apple.

the top guy at Nokia just changed, hopefully there will be some new changes in their OS that allows more competition in the market. As this will most likely benefits us as the end-user.

Changes can't be implemented over night... will take sometimes.

Unless it is free and creative like Android, or else I can't see much too far...

This post has been edited by MyWifeCar: Sep 27 2010, 11:49 AM