APSC sensor in X100 While GF2 Micro >.<
Photography Fujifilm FinePix X100 & X100S, Newly Released X100S Available Now!
Photography Fujifilm FinePix X100 & X100S, Newly Released X100S Available Now!
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Mar 24 2011, 10:40 PM
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APSC sensor in X100 While GF2 Micro >.<
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Mar 24 2011, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Mar 24 2011, 10:27 PM) The noise performance alone is worth the extra priceover GF2, don't even get me started on the optical viewfinder ( a huge plus during outdoor )... seems to me like u dun know what advantages X100 has over other camera, stick with your GF2 and learn first This is what I am planning to do but may just buy one and play around, it looks so good!!! |
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Mar 25 2011, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(xLegato @ Mar 24 2011, 04:27 PM) Don't bother going there, they're completely sold out. I called them today, they said that there are no units left and that they'll have to order. But I went anyway to see for myself, and true enough, they're sold out. However... I bought the display unit. QUOTE(xLegato @ Mar 24 2011, 09:51 PM) X100 if you don't want the bulkiness of a DSLR and don't mind a slight sluggishness in controls. A DSLR is much more responsive in controls - my opinion after handling the X100 myself. saw your WTS thread after few hours playing with it, so fast...xDPeople like me buy the X100 for times when I really don't want to lug a heavy DSLR around but don't want a compromise in image quality by using compact cameras either. This post has been edited by Hinika: Mar 25 2011, 07:37 AM |
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Mar 25 2011, 01:18 AM
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yeah i saw the ad too....wanna make some quick bucks....
they still have 2 units, one is mine..... new stock in april!! |
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Mar 25 2011, 02:59 AM
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Anyone who pre-order get the camera?
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Mar 25 2011, 02:33 PM
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where where!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mar 25 2011, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(zijian @ Mar 25 2011, 02:59 AM) hope could get mine on tml, else should be received on monday ady T_TQUOTE 25/03/2011 Shipped - Completed - SERIAL NUMBER 11300XXX This post has been edited by Hinika: Mar 25 2011, 05:01 PMThank you for shopping at ShaShinKi.com! Your order status has been updated to: ------------------------------------------------------ Order status: Shipped - Completed ------------------------------------------------------ Items ordered has been Poslaju to you today. It will be reaching you in the next 1-2 business days. |
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Mar 25 2011, 07:29 PM
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shashinki price RM3888 include the leather case?
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Mar 26 2011, 08:04 AM
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i just bought one at Fujifilm at Menara Axis. Apparently they have stock but dunno how many la. I got lucky I guess woot
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Mar 26 2011, 08:41 AM
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This Fujifilm Malaysia really dont know what they are doing or wants to do. I feel that they dont have a solid plan on pricing and marketing this X100. Their No.1 priority is short term profits
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Mar 26 2011, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 26 2011, 08:41 AM) This Fujifilm Malaysia really dont know what they are doing or wants to do. I feel that they dont have a solid plan on pricing and marketing this X100. Their No.1 priority is short term profits how was ur x100 so far ? QUOTE(Happyman @ Mar 25 2011, 07:29 PM) ShaShinKi: Hi, Fujifilm Malaysia said they do not have enough casing in the first batch, but they will give the casing in 2nd shipment. We will resend the casing to our customers separately when we received the casing.Added on March 26, 2011, 2:30 pm Postman had just pass me the item...xD ![]() ![]() ![]() Me and my wife's compact walk-around camera... ![]() This post has been edited by Hinika: Mar 27 2011, 08:59 AM |
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Mar 26 2011, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 26 2011, 08:41 AM) This Fujifilm Malaysia really dont know what they are doing or wants to do. I feel that they dont have a solid plan on pricing and marketing this X100. Their No.1 priority is short term profits Agreed. I don't know what they're up to, too. They told me they had no stock on the day I went so I had to get the demo unit, but the next day they suddenly have stock. Wonder if they're just hoarding units. Hmm. |
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Mar 26 2011, 06:14 PM
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Just touched it. Not as solid as I expect it to be. But, it's really awesome feel tho.
One unit. Who interested can PM me. |
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Mar 26 2011, 07:28 PM
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So far not too bad. I'm more familiarized with the menu system now. The AF can be touchy. Not able to focus on less contrasty objects but ok not too bad. First time I'm using an APS-C sensor camera so the high ISO plus the f2.0 is a big jump in speed for me. I set it to speed priority for indoor candid shots and it came out not too bad. Something that my GF1 can't do without added noise or blur.
There is a Led indicator which I find my thumb hiding it all the time. Maybe I'm holding it the wrong way. The battery can take up to 200 mins to charge up which is very slow since it's a small battery. Now I'm trying to figure out if I can put on a filter and hood together. I hope so. |
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Mar 26 2011, 08:03 PM
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Not a review, but just thoughts:
I think it's a bit overhyped and I'm slightly disappointed with it. A few things here and there which I'm pretty sure they can fix with firmware updates, but I'm not sure if it's only me or if owners also feel this way about the camera. Fuji did it right in most aspects (form, ergonomics, features), but it can still be better. Seeing as how it's unique and one of a kind in the market, there's definitely plenty of room for improvement. It's sluggish. It's not as nearly as responsive as a DSLR. I have a Fuji point and shoot which is pretty good, but I never liked its sluggish controls. Accessing the menus and navigating around is a bit of a drag. They can definitely make it smoother. I don't know if it's just my memory card, but write speeds are excruciatingly slow. If I set review mode to continuous (or anything other than "off"), I can only take ONE frame, and have to wait for it to be written to the card before I can snap the next. If I set it to off I can take more frames, but the buffer is small and it is unable to display images quickly. JPEG only is fine, but with a CMOS sensor and image quality touted to rival DSLRs, I'd ideally want to shoot in RAW. Manual focus is painful. This is one aspect they'll definitely have to improve if they want to market it well to rangefinder lovers. It's slow and sluggish. The focus by wire lags and it isn't as responsive as I'd like it to be. If the focus was anything like Canon's 85mm f/1.2 I'd be contented, but it's really slow. This is one thing they definitely have to improve on. There are minor glitches I've experienced, which I should be able to reproduce if I try again. Things like the info display in the viewfinder suddenly disappearing if I access certain menus and do stuff - which prompts a restart of the camera to fix. Not a major problem, but a little annoying. Probably can be fixed with a firmware update. The control wheel feels flimsy. I don't like it. The RAW button should allow you to switch modes permanently, not just for one frame. The electronic viewfinder is bad, I'm not sure of its specs but it's got a slow refresh time and looks pixelated. The back LCD is good, though. Pictures look accurate. The continuous burst mode is disappointing. What it does is take the the frames in continuous succession (5fps if I remember correctly); yes, but you can't actually shoot it like you would with a DSLR. You have to shoot those 5 frames at once, not shoot one, recompose, shoot another. Once you release your finger off the shutter button it starts saving your pictures. Pretty bad. I don't shoot video so I haven't bothered with the video mode, but I do know you can't manual focus while recording video. And once again, the controls are sluggish. You can't change settings really quickly, because if you access a setting; for example ISO, the camera doesn't stay in ISO if you don't start selecting (unlike a DSLR). If you don't select anything it just exits the ISO setting in a few seconds automatically. Just another problem with Fuji's user interface. I don't believe I have to list its merits here. Anyone who's interested in getting one for themselves would already know. Image quality is impressive, noise control is really good. That CMOS sensor and prime lens work well in tandem. It's also very, very silent - quieter than a Leica M9. I would turn all sounds off, the clicks and fake shutter sounds are silly. Overall, I may have been overly critical in my evaluation of the X100, but I still like it. If Fuji fixes most of the aforementioned issues in a firmware update, it'd be perfect. If you can get past the little quirks the X100 is a joy to own and use. Price is steep, but then again the marketing worked - Fuji definitely saw the room for a rangefinder-styled digital camera and thus can command such a price for one. This post has been edited by xLegato: Mar 26 2011, 08:04 PM |
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Mar 26 2011, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(xLegato @ Mar 26 2011, 08:03 PM) Not a review, but just thoughts: A very helpful insight for those getting the x100, now if only i can test it first I think it's a bit overhyped and I'm slightly disappointed with it. A few things here and there which I'm pretty sure they can fix with firmware updates, but I'm not sure if it's only me or if owners also feel this way about the camera. Fuji did it right in most aspects (form, ergonomics, features), but it can still be better. Seeing as how it's unique and one of a kind in the market, there's definitely plenty of room for improvement. It's sluggish. It's not as nearly as responsive as a DSLR. I have a Fuji point and shoot which is pretty good, but I never liked its sluggish controls. Accessing the menus and navigating around is a bit of a drag. They can definitely make it smoother. I don't know if it's just my memory card, but write speeds are excruciatingly slow. If I set review mode to continuous (or anything other than "off"), I can only take ONE frame, and have to wait for it to be written to the card before I can snap the next. If I set it to off I can take more frames, but the buffer is small and it is unable to display images quickly. JPEG only is fine, but with a CMOS sensor and image quality touted to rival DSLRs, I'd ideally want to shoot in RAW. Manual focus is painful. This is one aspect they'll definitely have to improve if they want to market it well to rangefinder lovers. It's slow and sluggish. The focus by wire lags and it isn't as responsive as I'd like it to be. If the focus was anything like Canon's 85mm f/1.2 I'd be contented, but it's really slow. This is one thing they definitely have to improve on. There are minor glitches I've experienced, which I should be able to reproduce if I try again. Things like the info display in the viewfinder suddenly disappearing if I access certain menus and do stuff - which prompts a restart of the camera to fix. Not a major problem, but a little annoying. Probably can be fixed with a firmware update. The control wheel feels flimsy. I don't like it. The RAW button should allow you to switch modes permanently, not just for one frame. The electronic viewfinder is bad, I'm not sure of its specs but it's got a slow refresh time and looks pixelated. The back LCD is good, though. Pictures look accurate. The continuous burst mode is disappointing. What it does is take the the frames in continuous succession (5fps if I remember correctly); yes, but you can't actually shoot it like you would with a DSLR. You have to shoot those 5 frames at once, not shoot one, recompose, shoot another. Once you release your finger off the shutter button it starts saving your pictures. Pretty bad. I don't shoot video so I haven't bothered with the video mode, but I do know you can't manual focus while recording video. And once again, the controls are sluggish. You can't change settings really quickly, because if you access a setting; for example ISO, the camera doesn't stay in ISO if you don't start selecting (unlike a DSLR). If you don't select anything it just exits the ISO setting in a few seconds automatically. Just another problem with Fuji's user interface. I don't believe I have to list its merits here. Anyone who's interested in getting one for themselves would already know. Image quality is impressive, noise control is really good. That CMOS sensor and prime lens work well in tandem. It's also very, very silent - quieter than a Leica M9. I would turn all sounds off, the clicks and fake shutter sounds are silly. Overall, I may have been overly critical in my evaluation of the X100, but I still like it. If Fuji fixes most of the aforementioned issues in a firmware update, it'd be perfect. If you can get past the little quirks the X100 is a joy to own and use. Price is steep, but then again the marketing worked - Fuji definitely saw the room for a rangefinder-styled digital camera and thus can command such a price for one. |
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Mar 26 2011, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(xLegato @ Mar 26 2011, 08:03 PM) Not a review, but just thoughts: I read somewhere review said the writing speed is slow. So is not your memory card problem i think =)I think it's a bit overhyped and I'm slightly disappointed with it. A few things here and there which I'm pretty sure they can fix with firmware updates, but I'm not sure if it's only me or if owners also feel this way about the camera. Fuji did it right in most aspects (form, ergonomics, features), but it can still be better. Seeing as how it's unique and one of a kind in the market, there's definitely plenty of room for improvement. It's sluggish. It's not as nearly as responsive as a DSLR. I have a Fuji point and shoot which is pretty good, but I never liked its sluggish controls. Accessing the menus and navigating around is a bit of a drag. They can definitely make it smoother. I don't know if it's just my memory card, but write speeds are excruciatingly slow. If I set review mode to continuous (or anything other than "off"), I can only take ONE frame, and have to wait for it to be written to the card before I can snap the next. If I set it to off I can take more frames, but the buffer is small and it is unable to display images quickly. JPEG only is fine, but with a CMOS sensor and image quality touted to rival DSLRs, I'd ideally want to shoot in RAW. Manual focus is painful. This is one aspect they'll definitely have to improve if they want to market it well to rangefinder lovers. It's slow and sluggish. The focus by wire lags and it isn't as responsive as I'd like it to be. If the focus was anything like Canon's 85mm f/1.2 I'd be contented, but it's really slow. This is one thing they definitely have to improve on. There are minor glitches I've experienced, which I should be able to reproduce if I try again. Things like the info display in the viewfinder suddenly disappearing if I access certain menus and do stuff - which prompts a restart of the camera to fix. Not a major problem, but a little annoying. Probably can be fixed with a firmware update. The control wheel feels flimsy. I don't like it. The RAW button should allow you to switch modes permanently, not just for one frame. The electronic viewfinder is bad, I'm not sure of its specs but it's got a slow refresh time and looks pixelated. The back LCD is good, though. Pictures look accurate. The continuous burst mode is disappointing. What it does is take the the frames in continuous succession (5fps if I remember correctly); yes, but you can't actually shoot it like you would with a DSLR. You have to shoot those 5 frames at once, not shoot one, recompose, shoot another. Once you release your finger off the shutter button it starts saving your pictures. Pretty bad. I don't shoot video so I haven't bothered with the video mode, but I do know you can't manual focus while recording video. And once again, the controls are sluggish. You can't change settings really quickly, because if you access a setting; for example ISO, the camera doesn't stay in ISO if you don't start selecting (unlike a DSLR). If you don't select anything it just exits the ISO setting in a few seconds automatically. Just another problem with Fuji's user interface. I don't believe I have to list its merits here. Anyone who's interested in getting one for themselves would already know. Image quality is impressive, noise control is really good. That CMOS sensor and prime lens work well in tandem. It's also very, very silent - quieter than a Leica M9. I would turn all sounds off, the clicks and fake shutter sounds are silly. Overall, I may have been overly critical in my evaluation of the X100, but I still like it. If Fuji fixes most of the aforementioned issues in a firmware update, it'd be perfect. If you can get past the little quirks the X100 is a joy to own and use. Price is steep, but then again the marketing worked - Fuji definitely saw the room for a rangefinder-styled digital camera and thus can command such a price for one. You can google it. Anyway thanks for sharing |
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Mar 26 2011, 09:15 PM
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i have to agree with xLegato
the GF1 is way faster that you can fire a shot and go for the next shot immediately. yes you even get to view the shot in no time. The x100 is faster than the Pen imho in this respect. The manual focus takes too many turns to get where you want to go but try this - press the AEL/AFL and it will autofocus for you enough to be almost there. yes the wheel feels too flimsy/ and the selected menu will switch off in mere seconds if you dont make a choice. there is no adjustment for this. the lumix GF1 can configure things way much better. it takes getting used to the wheel. yes i think there is room for improvement but so far its still not too frustrating yet. I will give it a better test on my coming trip This post has been edited by idoblu: Mar 26 2011, 09:18 PM |
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Mar 26 2011, 10:01 PM
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xLegato.. that's a brilliant post.
Thank you so much for sharing |
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Mar 27 2011, 12:10 AM
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Thanks. I wonder if I'll be the only one who thinks of that way about the X100 - we'll probably have to wait a while more before we start getting opinions from people around the world.
I intended that post to be for people to know what to expect if they were to buy the X100. By no means am I denigrating the camera - the picture quality is nothing short of impressive, and ISO control is excellent. But it's just not a perfect camera, at least not yet. I can't really give a review yet as I haven't had time to use it extensively. What I've noticed is that when shooting high ISOs in JPEGs, Fuji's engine applies somewhat strong noise reduction. I believe this was with the "Mid" setting. I didn't bother to process any RAW files yet as I don't have Photoshop right now (hard drive with Photoshop in it crashed), but you will probably have better photos doing the noise reduction and post processing yourself. JPEGs out of camera are enough for Facebook albums or 4R prints, but otherwise you're going to want to play with the RAW files. I hope my post helped, in one way or another! |
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