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post Sep 27 2012, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Sep 26 2012, 09:38 PM)
seech, nice.

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How I wish that d*** was mine....
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post Oct 9 2012, 03:01 PM

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Nighshot with the X100...
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post Oct 17 2012, 10:21 AM

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My contribution...
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I like this one... self potrait.
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Some pics from LPGA:
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post Oct 19 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(KB1 @ Oct 18 2012, 10:36 AM)
guys, how much you think i can get  for this camera now ?
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New can get for RM3k...


Added on October 23, 2012, 10:37 amSome 'street' shots from my recent trip to SG.

Red...
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Figures...
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The Egg...
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Time...
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It's SG in the afternoon and he has a sweater!!! (Literally.... sweating....)
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Should visit the 'Cool House'...
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More to come...

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post Oct 28 2012, 10:18 AM

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More from my SG trip...

Trying out some abstract shots.
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I quite like this one...
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Storm warning...
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post Oct 28 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Oct 28 2012, 10:28 AM)
ori?straight come out from x100???

or any post processing?
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 28 2012, 11:58 AM)
Nice images. May I ask what is the actual size of the pictures when they were taken? The pictures above cannot be enlarged ie. zoomed in, and the size of the pictures seems to be a bit small. Are the images above in their full size/resolution when the actual shot was taken? I wanted to zoom in to the images to have a look whether the clarity and detail will suffer but can't do so.

Similarly like the poster before me, I would also be interested to know if there is any post-processing carried out on the images above.

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Thanks. Images are OOC JPEG's. Edited slightly in Picasa for contrast, brightness, etc., then uploaded to Picasaweb albums at 'Best Size For Web Sharing'. Wouldn't exactly call that PP. biggrin.gif

The X100 JPEG'S are awesome. I don't upload in full size as its not really required for web viewing but I can put up some full size images if you want to check them out. Which ones do you want to view in full size?

Got more to come including my favorite images from my trip...
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post Oct 28 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 28 2012, 03:32 PM)
If it would be possible to upload images in their full sizes, the two photos which I have quoted above would be sufficient. Thanks. I am particularly interested in the X100's performance in low light, to see if there is a lot of noise in the pictures when they are enlarged and as such, more shots in low light to demonstrate the strengths of the large APC-S sensor would great. I've seen some low light sample pictures on dpreview, shots being taken in nightclubs and concerts where the background is near dark and the images come out superbly well.

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Can do. Will look for some high ISO samples for you as well. The X100 does perform fabulously at high ISO's. The files are also very sharp especially stopped down a little. One of the advantages of having a fixed lens I suppose.
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post Oct 29 2012, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(pandamerah @ Oct 28 2012, 11:23 PM)
random back alley shots i took in town. hdr with x100.

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the back alley by pandamerah, on Flickr

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the back alley by pandamerah, on Flickr
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Nice. Not too much and subtle HDR. Am not a fan of extreme HDR's as they look unnatural.


Added on October 29, 2012, 10:34 am
QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 28 2012, 03:32 PM)
If it would be possible to upload images in their full sizes, the two photos which I have quoted above would be sufficient. Thanks. I am particularly interested in the X100's performance in low light, to see if there is a lot of noise in the pictures when they are enlarged and as such, more shots in low light to demonstrate the strengths of the large APC-S sensor would great. I've seen some low light sample pictures on dpreview, shots being taken in nightclubs and concerts where the background is near dark and the images come out superbly well.

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Here you go... Straight OOC.

It's not the actual size as can't seem to upload at original size max is 2500px wide...

1/800s, f8.0, ISO200:
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1/105s, f4.0, ISO200:
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1/120s, f2.0, ISO3200:
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Added on October 29, 2012, 10:35 amSharp enough eh? :-)

ISO3200 not to bad either....

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post Oct 29 2012, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 29 2012, 12:06 PM)
Thanks Seech. Wonderful detail and clarity even though the images are blown up. The detail of the windows on the high-rise building is amazing as the sharpness is still intact. The images don't look soft but with a certain clarity and sharpness to them. Guess that is the strength of a large APS-C sensor on the X100.

By the way, do you have plans for the X-E1? Not too sure what will be the difference if the X100 is compared to an X-E1 with the 35mm lens. Also, I'm perplexed why folks still need to get a dedicated 18mm or 35mm lens for the X-E1 even though they already have a 18-55mm lens which already covered almost everything. Does this mean that the dedicated 18mm lens is capable of producing better results than the one on the 18-55mm? Or the dedicated 35mm lens is a more capable lens than the equivalent one on the 18-55mm lens? A bit confused, since 18-55mm has already covered the range, so why there is the need for dedicated 18mm lens or 35mm lens. I can understand the need for 14mm or 60mm lens since these are not in the range of the 18-55mm lens.

Setting these interchangeable lens on the X-E1 aside, the X100 is already seen as a pretty capable camera on its own. Wonderful pictures.
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Hi. They certainly are pretty sharp at the pixel level.

I am going to get the X-E1 as I need a zoom with IS. Plant to use it to record video when I need to. Was going to get the OMD with its 5-axis IBIS which works fantastically well for video but then they released the X-E1. The 18-55 is bright for a kit lens starting at f2.8 which is great for me. I'm also waiting for the other longer zoom in the XF range of lenses to be released next year of 55-200mm.

I will also probably get the 35mm/f1.4. Its not the just the range that is covered. Primes are usually brighter than zooms as they have a fixed focal length and they should be sharper as well. The 35mm prime is much brighter than the zoom which starts at only f2.8 at the wide end. The 35mm would be great for indoors. They will also be releasing a 23mm which is also a f1.4.

On top of the ability to change focal length. The X-Trans sensor in the X-E1/X-Pro1 is also sharper and has even better noise control at high ISO. The only problem with the X-E1 is that with the lenses, its a lot larger than my X100 so it's not exactly that portable. I'll definitely be keeping my X100 though.
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 29 2012, 12:40 PM)
THanks for the reply. Much appreciated. Good to hear you will be getting the X-E1.

I am pretty new in this, and hopefully you can advise. Since you have mentioned that prime lenses (to me it means dedicated 18mm lens, dedicated 35mm lens etc.) are brighter than zooms(18-55mm) and "should" produce sharper images, can we say that the X-E1 with a 35mm prime lens will produce superior IQ than the X100 with 23mm lens(equivalent to 35mm on a 35mm camera)?

Assuming one does not need the zoom function ie. 18-55mm lens of the X-E1, which interchangeable lense(of the X-E1) will be the best compromise for most common shooting conditions in good light as well as low light? The 18mm or 35mm? I guess the 35mm?

Just to reiterate, the X-E1 with the 35mm lens will most likely produce higher levels of image quality than the X100 with fixed 23mm lens. Am I correct to say this?

Thanks again for the advice.
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Hi. The 35mm is equivalent to 53mm actually. As the X-E1 and X100 share the same APS-C sized sensor, the crop factors are the same. Can't really compare the XF35mm and the X100's 23mm as they are different focal lengths but the combination of the XF lenses and X-Trans sensor on the X-E1 is 'supposed' to be sharper than the older X100's sensor/lens combo. But that said, I'm not really a pixel peeper and the X100 is purpose designed with its 23mm/f2.0 lens and for all intents and purposes is sharp enough for me.

If you're looking to actually choose between the X100 and X-E1 then I would say the decision is more down to whether you can live with the fixed 35mm equivalent on the X100 or do you want some zoom or the option to switch focal lengths that the X-E1 gives you. I personally don't think the relative sharpness is all that different between the two cameras.

The X100 is much smaller than the X-E1 with even the smallest 18mm attached so that should be a consideration as well. Also the X100 has the hybrid viewfinder (of which I hardly use the OVF hence the X-E1 with its dedicated EVF is a better fit for me than the more expensive X-Pro1).

The X-E1 is also substantially more expensive than the X100 which is fabulous value new/used at the moment.

As for the X-E1? I'm planning to get it with the 18-55mm kits lens and also the 35mm/f1.4.


Added on October 29, 2012, 2:23 pmMore pics...

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Trees...
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Lovely colors at dawn...
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post Oct 29 2012, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 29 2012, 04:25 PM)
For an experienced and seasoned photographer like yourself, guess you've mastered most of the functions of the X100. For a novice who is used to P&S for most part of his life, guess there is some training to be done.

Just checked out the pricing of the X100. Guess you are right that the current value of the X100 is pretty good. Just found out that one can be had at RM2,900 from DY Divine at Digital Mall PJ, and the price includes the leather casing (presumably LC-X100) and a 16GB SD Class 10 card.

Just wanted to check with you. I noticed that the X100 has the LH-X100(lens hood) and AR-X100(adapter ring) as accessories. Any idea if these come together with the camera as standard items? What is the function of the adapter ring for the X100?
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Seasoned and experienced photographer? :-). Hardly... I'm just someone who enjoys taking and learning about photography.

There is definitely a learning curve stepping up from a P&S to the X100 but there is no better camera to learn the basics of photography than the X100 with all its external manual controls. Stick with it and you'll never look back...

DY Divine has some good prices. I'm planning on getting my X-E1 from them as well. RM2.9k is a really good price! I got mine at RM3.6k when it was first released.

As for the accessories, the adaptor is so that you can mount the lens hood and also filters to the X100. I keep a UV filter attached to mine for protection as I prefer not to use the lens cap. The hood is more for decoration and definitely looks cool. The ori fuji's are a bit pricey. I got the JJC hood and adaptor on eBay.

Good luck with your X100. You won't regret it.


Added on October 29, 2012, 6:48 pm
QUOTE(pandamerah @ Oct 29 2012, 04:57 PM)
and that's a win!

the only thing i hate about the X100 is the shutter speed limit at certain apertures. ie: f/2 will only go 1/1000s max. it's even written in the manual. its the leaf shutter mechanism thing. but to compensate this, fuji did put the ND filter.. fine i guess but so many times i just forgot that the camera have an ND filter haha, so i just stop down the aperture. but hey there's a lot of goodness of the X100 so i just ignore the bad ones.
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Thanks!

Yeah, limitation of the X100's leaf shutter... I configured my 'RAW' button to toggle the ND filter but I find that more often than not I also stop down if required. It's really sharp at f4-f8...

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post Oct 30 2012, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 29 2012, 09:25 PM)
Thanks for the information on the adaptor ring. So the adaptor is meant for mounting the lens hood and filters to the X100. Is the lens hood necessary?

I am curious on your preference of not using the lens cap. My understanding is the lens cap will cover and protect the lens. I presume the lens cap cannot be used on the X100 if the UV filter is already fixed to the lens(via the adaptor ring). May I ask the reason of your preference to use the UV filter in place of the lens cap to protect the lens of the X100. Although I have not seen or touched the lens cap or UV filter in real life, I presume the lens cap offers more protection as the material is harder.

Some experienced photographers tried to steer me to the Sony RX100 due to its simple interface and controls, but I think it's time I get into some serious business, a camera with manual controls.
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The adapter mounts to some threads on the front of the X100's lens. It provides a 49mm female thread for you to mount any filters of your choice. The lens hood is a bayonet mount which fits on the outside of the adapter. I find that the hood looks cool... rolleyes.gif It does help to prevent some flare but mostly I only use the hood if I'm out shooting for the day.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 29 2012, 09:44 PM)
wah, long post.

Depending on how experience you are, X100 definitely need some photography know how to unleash its potential.

Buying X100 now or wait for replacement, will depend on whether you need to use the camera now.

Hood imo, is a must for x100 beside flare, It protect the lens. Put on a multicoated filter and your lens well protected. With lens hood and filter on, there is really no need to put on lens cap. Lens cap on will be troublesome, add to bulkiness and slow down your shot if you want to quickly take out your camera for a shot.

I Bought a crumpler waist pouch and have my X100 in it everyday and i bring my X100 with me everyday to work or other leisure, so i can shoot as and when i like or needed.

For me, i dont uninstall the hood. I consider the hood as part of the camera and no reason to uninstall it. I do have a drybox and if needed and i can put it inside.
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Yes.... long post indeed. biggrin.gif

I would agree that the X100 is NOT a P&S and will require that you either have some photographic knowledge OR you want to learn more about photography as the X100 will force you to learn about it soon enough. biggrin.gif

I would say it all depends on you. If you want something you just Point and then Shoot then perhaps the RX100 maybe a better choice. If you want to learn more about photography than to just Point & Shoot then the X100 is perfect. Just be aware that there is a learning curve and you will need to improve your skills to use the X100 properly. That said, you can always set the X100 to auto and shoot away but that would be missing the point of it all.

Personally, I love the full manual controls. It feels more like a photographic tool as apposed to a digital toy...

I keep the lens cap off as hidden830726 has mentioned because its troublesome to put it on and off. I prefer to keep my X100 with the filter on in the bag and just pull it out when I want to take a shot rather than to bother with a fiddly cap.

I also carry my X100 with me everywhere. It's small enough not to be too obtrusive. For daily use, I have a NatGeo pouch that fits perfectly and if I'm out shooting I keep my X100 in my ThinkTank Retrospective 5 with the hood attached.

As for the hood and flare.....

Flare can be nice what!
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The flare was intentional but the image above was taken WITH the hood in case you were wondering. rolleyes.gif


Added on October 30, 2012, 7:37 amForgot to mention about your concerns about X200, X300, etc.

There really is no end to gear...

The X100 is more than enough as it is. The files are beautiful, the Fuji colors are awesome and the Fujinon lens is sharp.

If you want it, I say just get it!

The prices have come down quite a bit for what is still an awesome camera.

Besides, a better camera is NOT going to make you a better photographer. rolleyes.gif

But the X100 will definitely force you to learn to be one... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Oct 30 2012, 07:48 AM)
I've narrowed down my choices to two models, the X100 and Sony RX100. That's it. Initially I wanted the X100 but there were some individuals, experienced photographers(one of them own both X100 and RX100) who tried to steer me to the RX100, citing that the simplicity and ease of use will suit me better. There were claims that the difference in IQ between the RX100 and X100 isn't too significant as what that has been claimed as the RX100 is a very capable P&S.

Anyone compared the RX100 to the X100 before?

I am fully aware about the learning curve of the X100 and the larger size of it in comparison to the RX100. Personally I may not bother about these aspects to much as long as the IQ is considerably or noticeably better than the RX100. But it appears that the difference may not be significant as I had hoped for, judging from the response of a guy who currently own both. Of course, everyone's expectations are not the same. One man's significant may be another man's subtle.


Added on October 30, 2012, 10:05 am

How much is the price for the original LH-X100 lens hood and AR-X100 adapter ring? Performance-wise is there any difference between these Fujifilm accessories and the JJC ones on eBay?

Lastly, the filter. I noticed Fujifilm did not include the filter as part of an item in their accessories. Why is that? Does DY Divine sell quality UV filters for the X100? I presume they don't since you've bought the JJC ones off eBay?

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The RX100 is certainly an excellent P&S and I don't think you will notice much difference in IQ. However, the X100 being a much larger APS-C sensor will give you a shallower DOF relative to the RX100. You should also get better dynamic range and noise control as well. That's in theory being a larger sensor vs a smaller sensor. In practical terms? Better you test it out and see.

The MAJOR difference between the two if you ask me is the shooting experience. Having full manual controls vs a more digital experience is worlds apart. That said, there are pros and cons to every camera. The RX100 is truly pocketable vs having the need for extremely large pockets for the X100.

Best you try and make up your own mind on which you prefer. At the end of the day the camera is just a tool.... the person behind the camera is what determines the result. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Wow! Ur certainly very thorough in your research...

b+w probably the best but $$$. I use a Hoya on mine... Got some funky reflections when shooting at direct bright lights.

Fuji actuall makes special filters for their X series cameras that are coated in the same way as the lenses. Not sure where to buy or how much though.

As for the hood and adapter. No issue with my silver JJC. Much cheaper than ori.

Good luck!
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Attended an Indian wedding the other nite...

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Tatoo...
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This panning shot came out quite well... :-)
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Waiting...
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QUOTE(pandamerah @ Oct 31 2012, 07:44 PM)
bokehlicious! shot at f/2?
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Yeah.

1/85, f2.0, ISO400.
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Some shots combining my two passions of photography and auto detailing...

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QUOTE(Spad3 @ Nov 7 2012, 01:25 PM)
I brought mine from ebay also. JJC lens hood is pretty good quality with good price.
When is the tt session? I wanna join also.
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I got my JJC from ebay as well. Pretty good quality and the finishing matches my X100....


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Funny, the X100 isn't exactly a cheap camera....

Should get something that matches the build quality. Definitely ori or something of JJC quality...
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Nov 8 2012, 08:33 AM)
I am not suggesting cheap accessories for the X100 with a compromise in quality. Budget isn't an issue for most people that can afford the X100 I guess, and I suppose it's just that people hate paying for something that doesn't represent value for money. OF course the JJC may appear value for money next to the originals, but if the alternatives that are cheaper than the JJC by 6 times share an almost similar feel or look with the JJC, then why not. OF course if these cheap accessories are inferior in quality then it's not worth looking at.

Although the JJC hood/ring are cheaper than the Fuji originals, the price difference isn't really that significant, just about half the price of the originals. Some folks may be willing to fork out a bit more for the Fuji hood/adapter ring considering these are cheap accessories. Having that said, there are some folks on dpreview who have gone with the cheaper alternatives(RM20+/-) and felt that they were basically the same with the real mccoy. Not too sure how reliable this information was unless they have bought the Fujis and compare them back to back with the aftermarket options.
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True, true.... haven't seen the cheaper alternatives so can't comment on their quality but the JJC's are pretty nice. Half the price of the originals is still a significant savings though.

As far as I can see most X100 owners treat their cameras really well.... Now I just need to buy a red Artisan&Artist strap... biggrin.gif

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