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 EMPIRE CITY @ Damansara Perdana/Mutiara Damansara, Mixed Development Project in Damasara KL

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post Mar 13 2016, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Giant @ Mar 13 2016, 11:01 PM)
This is crazy. How can it be allowed to pass? I can't even say is good if the fittings are all done and the place is dirty. This developer really no more money. Better sell off his Empire Subang.

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post Mar 15 2016, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Salvador_Dali @ Mar 15 2016, 03:31 PM)
At the end of the day, everyone is protected except for the buyer.
Looking at the photos, is the unit habitable with electricity and water?
A lawyer will argue the unit is dirty and they forgot to clean up and have some defects.
Thus the architect sign off.

Posting photos on the web is not helping either, especially those desperate to dispose their unit to the next sucker. bad news snowballs and if the developer fails to secure more credit, the project might be abandon, who is the loser then? not the developer, they just start a new company - maybe - Galatic Empire Holding or Inter-galaxy Awesome Holdings.

Even if there is a court case, it will be 10 to 20 years long. By that time, some are dead, some migrated, making the case even harder to close.

Just pray they don't go bankrupt. Those that got these type of VP units, remember, you guys are in the same boat with the developer, they fall you fall.

p.s. I hope the property market collapse, thus making houses affordable to everyone, but speculators will curse me because I am the good guy, but they think they are the good guys because they vote DAP. cheers. am no BN supporter too.
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Don't let them go easily. They still have Empire Subang. Can force them to sell it to compensate here if all stakeholders unite. The more we relax, the more people they are trying to fool as seen in EC2. Empire Remix are already screwed up for sure.

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post Mar 16 2016, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(lch78 @ Mar 16 2016, 08:35 PM)
I guess many who bought EC residential are investors/flippers. Probably the same investors who made money from Empire Subang and Empire Damansara.
Still one bad experience will tarnish everyone confidence.

From what I gather, delay is inevitable since developer has no money to get contractors working already. Developer even resort to unscrupulous tactics to get financing, like finish up the external work and landscape even though internally is far from completion.

But we cannot wrap fire with paper, a walk inside the building and everyone can tell whether the building is complete or not.
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Such a lousy developer. The Empire Subang name should be changed to other name! Make the whole town stinks now as it facing the Federal Highway.
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post Mar 17 2016, 08:11 AM

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I don't think can trust on a developer who always have cash flow problems. Do you think there will be issues such as structural integrity later on? No money cut corners.
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post Mar 17 2016, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(MonGJiHyo @ Mar 17 2016, 03:46 PM)
don't forget the incidents that happened at empire subang b4~ icon_idea.gif
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Ya, seriously. With Empire City such a huge project, it is damn easy to cut corners if they want to. From concrete mix of poorer grade to fewer steel rebar per rebar column. All this is already covered up. When people starts moving in and the building starts to have real load, it would starts to crack. If this one building cracks bad enough, do you have the guts to stay in nearby towers?

Then we really become known as Banglasia. Only Bangladesh and Turkey have buildings collapse because of corruption or shoddy workmanship.
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post Mar 18 2016, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Mar 18 2016, 03:59 PM)
The thing is this Dev do HAD good reputation ... Until now I guess.

That teach everyone a lesson, no matter how good it look from the outside.. Maybe one day even developers like Sime Darby, IJM, Ecoworld also cannot be trusted ...
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Maybe Empire Subang. But Empire Damansara is plague with shoddy workmanship. It is so bad that owners have to wait for their rectification work to do own renovation. A lot of them are pissed but they don't mind cause of the real appreciation value and it is completed. However, EC and remix is a problem. And they want to built EC2!! What do they want to rush for. Surely they don't give a damn about reputation.
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QUOTE(netboy @ Mar 18 2016, 06:08 PM)
1. I'm not owner of any unit in EC
2. I didn't say that Mr Lim was wrong. I was just curious why is he continuing to fight the legal battle when he repeatedly clarified that he's not an owner.

Based on a speculation, there's various reasons behind Mr Lim's action. Still, whether the photos are the actual unit or not, only he knows. Regardless, I think he did his part by making the photos went viral and gave current owners a kind of "wake up call". Whether the whole issue is a real "truth" or not, maybe time will tell. My best wishes to all owners.

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Regarding Subang Empire, it is true that the entire building's (including mall and SOHO) workmanship is substandard. I frequent ES and has a few friends who owns units upstairs so from Day 1, already can see some poor finishing. ES's success literally comes from great retail tenant mix and decent location. With such good retail shops it's bound to be a success as a "neighborhood mall" around SS15-16 area. If the management team didn't bring in the current crop of retail tenants, it could've been a flop years ago.

Just look at ES's direct competitor (not Parade, but First Subang, now known as SS15 Courtyard). Similar concept but First Subang's failure to bring in good retail tenants were their downfall.
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SS 15 courtyard is nicer now but it doesn't look to be a happening place. Hopefully the SS 15 shoplot near LRT would change to a better mix of tenants to be happening.
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post Mar 22 2016, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Informationiac @ Mar 22 2016, 07:10 PM)
why must they build all in 1 phase
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because they have no reputation.
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post Mar 24 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Informationiac @ Mar 24 2016, 11:50 AM)
Taken today, from front it seems like floors and main structures are almost complete. This is so wasteful if they really throw out this project.

The back near Bkt Lanjan car park there looks like shit though.
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Bro, the interior fittings is also one hell of a cost. It isn't low cost buildings btw.
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post Mar 24 2016, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Giant @ Mar 24 2016, 06:13 PM)
I guess MEH wont let empire city failed at this stage, worst scenario they will just sacrifice EMPIRE Remix to complete this Empire CIty 1st,  then try to launch Empire City 2, if the sales is good , then they might have a chance to cover empire remix like they used to, or else..... sad.gif
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I doubt HCK would let his opposite building be abandoned. Too ugly.
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post Mar 25 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(westthen @ Mar 25 2016, 12:26 PM)
actually all the buildings are 70-80% done...why can't they finish 1 by 1 like that at least got ppl come in then got value then at least will attract more investor
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maybe they want to imitate KL echo city style...all ready one shot.
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post Mar 25 2016, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(cannible @ Mar 25 2016, 10:43 PM)
you mean kl eco city? Wat do u mean all ready one shot?
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yaya, it means the whole development completes together
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post Mar 26 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Mar 26 2016, 10:31 AM)
ya essentially - they said everything they did is covered under the S&P so what talk you? biggrin.gif

well let us see then if the CCC is released in 2 weeks as per article ...hope they keep to their promise

The thing about MMH developments is that the concept is actually to me quite impressive but execution wise is lacking.
I think not detail oriented enough and does not deliver a  value product to purchasers. For eg, yes, you can take your sweet time to
finish the mall but do you not consider what this would impact on the other aspects of the development?  If you screw your buyers
chances are good that they wont return to buy your future  products..
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Should ask them about their empire remix. It is structural but is still not moving. It really shows they are in deep shit rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 26 2016, 11:06 AM)
If they could find a REIT to take over the mall, meh will be left with a truck load of gold. The tussle is to convince banks to extend additional funding to complete the mall.
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But their mall is very close to 1U. What then would make their mall special?
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QUOTE(Informationiac @ Mar 26 2016, 07:19 PM)
Sounds to me that if there are no buyer/tenant for the mall, they wont build it fast. So if there are no tenant forever, then they wont build forever? What bullshit is this
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Yeah. I bet this mall will be like another NuSentral or Encorp Strand Mall. No future, no prospect.
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QUOTE(bigmamma @ Mar 27 2016, 07:13 AM)
Instead of getting Paris Hilton to come, they should just invite Gurmit Singh, Harith Iskandar and Joanne Kam to perform LAUGH DIE YOU 3 at the venue. After more than 6 months, defects still not done and keys not returned to owners and some more started to collect maintenance fees are reasonable to a so called reputable and want to be around developer, really laugh die you. If all developers behave like them and still think they are right, Lok luck to property industry in Malaysia..  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Hahaha EC is such a big project still not enough...want to rush EC2. Why not complete EC that inspired confidence on people to buy EC2. But no already want to built EC2. First time I see a developer like the land will go away if they don't built a structure on it sweat.gif


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post Mar 27 2016, 07:58 PM

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End 2014.....But now still at a very bad stage. No wonder they want to launch their EC2. Really have no more cash in hand already.
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QUOTE(Megatron1234 @ Mar 28 2016, 09:01 AM)
Very simple. Toilet Paper reported this developer said got RM315 mil bank loan. Interest rate about 7%. RM315 mil X 7% = RM22 mil interest.

Interest alone is RM22 mil a year. This developer pays RM22 mil interest a year. No wonder so LANSI la.

I do not buy anything from LANSI people. When people go shopping for somethings they won't buy from LANSI sales people. Makes me wonder why people buy from LANSI property developers. Saya tidak faham.
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Greed. They only see $$$. It is die die must buy.
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QUOTE(Informationiac @ Mar 28 2016, 11:41 AM)
most probably MEH rectify ER's problem faster and better than EC so they dont get in trouble, this maybe because ER's customer all rich and have status, they don't dare to give trouble to them. imagine if one of the ER owner works with the government agencies.
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Most likely because they are rich and have status they know where to go direct until meh balls down fast fast rectify so no chance to have complains.
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QUOTE(ace77 @ Mar 30 2016, 11:27 AM)
ah... u sure the interior is the most expensive part???
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yes, always the most expensive. unless it is totally bare like low cost housing. then it is cheap.

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