well it's a big "cover up" by the developer

good question.

my guess sure protect MEH 

Another LOD? To which buyer? Mr Lim again?

When it come then I buy popcorn and watch.

Now still all tok and no action.

Mr lim should out from this "show", owner is the one who should be blame, Chinese always say 咎由自取。。take your own consequences since day one you sign the SPA...if developer run away..is your bad luck, don't hope someone like Mr lim to help you..at this point of time.. It can see that owner are useless group..no voices at all..pity..

I fail to understand why "Mr Lim" the non-owner is tanking the developer and doing all the exposé whereas very little owners have come forward with their own photos and complains.

Even in this thread I don't notice any actual owners are giving their side of story(ies). Majority comments are from outsiders which are non-owners.

As a non-owner, Mr Lim is even proceeding to attend to the LOD and seemed prepare to fight for the "truth". I may understand his stance and action if he's an actual owner and is suffering for potentially huge financial losses, but by just exposing the photos which went viral after 2 days, he could've just retracted it with apology and move on with his life without any harm to his pocket.

Yet, where are all the owners?

No matter which stance the owners take ie. 1. Pray developer complete it sooner rather than later or 2. Persuing the developer via legal channel, it's a lose-lose situation.

If they chose 1. and keep quiet, developer may be more daring and delay it even further, but there's a chance that it will eventually complete anyway. Owners suffer temporary losses of loan repayment while waiting for their units to be completed properly.

While if they proceed with option 2. by going through legal means, developer will too, counter with their papers that most - if not all - owners have signed without actually understanding it and are usually sided towards the vendor. Worst case scenario, developer found guilty and ruled to pay huge compensation, they may pack up, declare company bankruptcy and there goes the buildings in an abandoned state.

It's a huge dilemma for owners, I couldn't decide myself which route I will take if I'm one at the moment. I just don't understand why a non-owner is going public and yet still not backing down despite developer's LOD in which he will suffer potential financial losses for something that he's not even involved in. Getting the photos viral for a few days is really a good enough wake up call for owners, but why he is continuing to fight for a battle that is not even his?

just having the spa signed even with buyers signing with open eyes (so to speak) does not absolve the
developer of ALL responsibilities  . For Example. they still have a duty of care to provide  a building that is safe and fit for occupation..

ES is doing well after the initial hiccup.

But when owners got the key for the unit, the similar hiccup they faced, just on smaller scale compared to Empire Damansara. It seems that now whatever the owners faced in Empire Damansar it is minuscule compared to Empire City. 

Everyone was using the success in Empire Subang, suck up the developer's inefficacy in delivering the product  and bbb in Empire Damansara and Empire City with the hope developer is able to replicate the success.

The edge weekly carries the news that ambank top officials visited empire city recently. MEH have outstanding loan of RM 900 mio with Ambank. Now the big guys are worried too.

Quote TheStar: "DIBS, on the other hand, are a “willing seller-willing buyer” SPA cunningly crafted by developers and are in contradiction with the current housing legislation. Under the DIBS, the house buyer has agreed to be responsible to the banks/financial institutions for the loans signed under the SPA whether the houses are delivered or not. This is the moral hazard the Government is trying to prevent the house buyers from getting into."

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...e-house-buyers/

These people signed the S&P already, be thankful the project is not abandon, if it is, you are liable for the loan towards the bank.

Good luck.

BS? u tell your Lim Guan Eng loh. He wants the gov to bring back DIBS.
and be thankful? of course, what else? pray they go kaput?
You know, you lost the 'rape' debate. Stop picking on me and move on you cry baby.

Must be mutual hand shake + "favor" to resolve issue....ini Malaysia lah....

Impossible for the owner not to know which level the unit is located.....and unit number.....

Safest bet now avoid even how good the future package is.....once bitten twice shy.....take note....

Well, im just referring that he went wrong floor. i never point on others matter...wrong floor means wrong floor...thats all.
somemore you r not the one bought their units, what you worried for actually? Now i more worried Mr Lim wants to help but cause him deep shit ...

actually ah, just asking.
are there any recourse for purchasers to back up from the purchase prior to vp?
new hda spa have a clause on withdrawal even after signing with some penalties.

The FACTS are:
1. developer planted a special clause in SPA to screw buyers to avoid paying LAD if project delay beyond agreed deadline

2. developer staff brought Mr Lim to wrong floor

3. after VP, owners not allowed to enter the premise until CCC is issued

4. CCC date still unconfirmed and could well exceed the 6 months from VP (defect liability deadline)

3. Many projects are delay...Empire City Mall, MYEG headquarter building, etc, etc

Now tell me, what is your view about this developer based on the above FACTS?

just thinking out loud.
you want to owe the bank full amount or you want to salvage whatever you can and cut loss?

but ah... i also hear the progress claim sibeh jialat.
ER could have claim up to 75% or something like that?

As of KPKT Source as at 22/01/2016, Mammoth Empire Land Sdn Bhd is listed under "Pemaju Projek Sakit"

And my most hated developer of all time, Talam F**king Corporation has changed their name to Talam Transform, NMSH CCB KNN developer still exist.

All these developers must be politically connected and house buyers are ***cked upside down.

the article is badly written or meh reply is so sombong...i will never ever have dealing with them whether for prop or retail space and i recommend to all malaysians to do so. we cannot encourage this type of *** to keep screwing around.

what the... this MEH developer treating their purchasers like School principle & pupil...you do what i said because i'm the developer...they forget the purchasers are their customers... 

End 2014.....But now still at a very bad stage. No wonder they want to launch their EC2. Really have no more cash in hand already.