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post Sep 17 2010, 11:26 PM, updated 15y ago

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Kretek (pronounced /ˈkriːtɛk/) are cigarettes made with a blend of tobacco, cloves and other flavors. The word "kretek" itself is an onomatopoetic term for the crackling sound of burning cloves. Haji Jamahri, a resident of Kudus, Java, created kreteks in the early 1880s as a means to deliver the eugenol of cloves to the lungs, as it was thought to help asthma. Jamahri believed the eugenol cured his chest pains and he started to market his invention to the village, but he died before he could mass market it. M. Nitisemito took his place and began to commercialize the new cigarettes. Today, kretek manufacturers directly employ over 180,000 people in Indonesia and an additional 10 million indirectly.[1]

Partly due to favorable taxation compared to "white" cigarettes,[2] kreteks are by far the most widely-smoked form of cigarettes in Indonesia, where about 90% of smokers usually smoke kreteks.[3] In Indonesia, there are hundreds of kretek manufacturers, including small local makers and major brands. Most of the widely-known international brands, including Bentoel, Djarum, Gudang Garam, Jakarta, Sampoerna, and Wismilak, originate from Indonesia. Nat Sherman of the United States produces cigarettes branded as "A Touch of Clove" but are arguably not kreteks since they contain clove flavoring in the filter rather than actual clove spice mixed with the tobacco.[4]


History

The origin of kretek cigarettes can be traced to the late 19th century. The creator of kretek was Haji Jamahri, a native of the town of Kudus in Indonesia's Central Java region. Suffering from chest pains, Jamahri attempted to reduce the pain by rubbing clove oil on his chest. Jamahri sought a means of achieving a deeper relief and smoked his hand-rolled cigarettes after adding dried clove buds and rubber tree sap. According to the story, his asthma and chest pains vanished immediately. Word of Jamahri’s discovery spread rapidly among his neighbors, and clove cigarettes soon became available in pharmacies under the name of rokok cengkeh – clove cigarettes. Although first discovered as a medicinal product, kreteks became widely popular outside this capacity.

In those years, the locals used to hand-roll kreteks to sell on order without any specific brand, packing or limits on ingredients used in production. A resident of Kudus named Nitisemito had the idea of starting serial production and selling kreteks under a proprietary brand name. Unlike other manufacturers, Nitisemito who first created the Bal Tiga brand in 1906 enjoyed great success by implementing unprecedented marketing techniques such as using threats, embossed packs or offering free-of-charge promotional materials. Commercial manufacture did not start in earnest until the 1930s.[5]

Furthermore, he also developed a production system which was called the abon system and which offered great opportunities for other entrepreneurs without enough capital. In this system, a person called as "abon" assumes the job of delivering finished products to the company which pays the price of piecework done whereas the company is liable to supply the necessary production materials to the “abons”. However, most manufacturers have since opted to have their workers working under the roof of their own factories, to maintain quality standards. Nowadays, only a few kretek manufacturers make use of the abon system.

During the period from 1960 until 1970, kreteks became a national symbol against “white cigarettes”. In mid 1980’s, the number of machine-produced cigarettes exceeded that of hand-rolled ones. One of the largest income sources of Indonesia, the kretek industry comprises 500 large and small manufacturers employing a total of around 10 million people.[6]

Since 2009, kreteks are not legal for sale in the United States. However a variation of the kretek is being sold: "cigars" that are similar in size and shape to the original kreteks, also with a filter and the original tobacco/clove blend, but in a tobacco-based paper.
[edit] Structure and ingredients

The quality and variety of tobacco play an important role in kretek production. One kretek brand can contain more than 30 types of tobacco.[7] Minced dried clove buds weighing about 1/3 of the tobacco blend are added. Sometimes, the last process which machine-made or hand-rolled kreteks go through is the spraying of sweetener at the butt end of the cigarette.


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I am a Kretek smoker for more than 20 years and i am as strong as an OX!
Only those original contraband fr Indonesia appealed to me....harum thumbup.gif
my favourite is Dji Sam Soe Classic

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post Sep 17 2010, 11:31 PM

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kretek here. 'sup

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post Sep 17 2010, 11:32 PM

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post Sep 17 2010, 11:33 PM

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lol kelentit.

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kretek is nice with a bottle of tiger beer, isham rais approved! tongue.gif

but i prefer my dunhill more.
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i use to smoke gudang garam
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post Sep 18 2010, 09:36 AM

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not bad, kretek is good 4 u.
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post Sep 18 2010, 11:45 AM

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Gudang garam without the filter....
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smoking is for loser who can't cope with pressure.

sikit2 hisap rokok. mafaker.
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smoking helps tampaling back the bocor ozon dawgs
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smokers go die . here is lowyat.net best forum in the world , here no condone this no shame act . u wan rokok u get out .
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Sep 18 2010, 02:54 PM)
smokers go die . here is lowyat.net best forum in the world , here no condone this no shame act . u wan rokok u get out .
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ahahaah
why kiddo? u sked ur mama sclod you if you smoke?
your papa whack you if you smoke? rolleyes.gif
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i love surya 12. always bought them. but after awhile i stopped smoking kretek. many my friends told me its not good for health. i also become afraid already lol.

now i just buy handrolled tobacco. more economy and imported from europe.
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Sep 18 2010, 11:46 AM)
smoking is for loser who can't cope with pressure.

sikit2 hisap rokok. mafaker.
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yo man,u smoke crackpot? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Sep 18 2010, 01:56 PM)
ahahaah
why kiddo? u sked ur mama sclod you if you smoke?
your papa whack you if you smoke?  rolleyes.gif
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pui i no play smoke2 thing !


SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
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Kretek is an abomination of tobacco.

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QUOTE(Hexism @ Sep 18 2010, 02:58 PM)
pui i no play smoke2 thing !
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
SMOKERS ARE JOKERS
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Sep 18 2010, 12:46 PM)
smoking is for loser who can't cope with pressure.

sikit2 hisap rokok. mafaker.
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I only smoke fine english tobacco in my Savinelli pipes.
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wrong. smokers are not loser. great people smoke, che guevara smoke, fidel castro smoke, kurt cobain smokes, sherlock holmes smokes.

if smoking is for losers, why your boss smokes cigar in his office?
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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Sep 18 2010, 03:02 PM)
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Sep 18 2010, 02:06 PM)
wrong. smokers are not loser. great people smoke, che guevara smoke, fidel castro smoke, kurt cobain smokes, sherlock holmes smokes.

if smoking is for losers, why your boss smokes cigar in his office?
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why got sherlock holmes there ? if you want to start using fictional characters as your basis for argument then i also can say doraemon no smoke, jesus no smoke , etc etc
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Sep 18 2010, 02:09 PM)
why got sherlock holmes there ? if you want to start using fictional characters as your basis for argument then i also can say doraemon no smoke, jesus no smoke , etc etc
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Sep 18 2010, 02:06 PM)
wrong. smokers are not loser. great people smoke, che guevara smoke, fidel castro smoke, kurt cobain smokes, sherlock holmes smokes.

if smoking is for losers, why your boss smokes cigar in his office?
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for kids who are smoking,they will use that excuse to their parent and teacher rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Hexism @ Sep 18 2010, 02:09 PM)
why got sherlock holmes there ? if you want to start using fictional characters as your basis for argument then i also can say doraemon no smoke, jesus no smoke , etc etc
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jesus no smoke?then the cloud coming out from his ass? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Sep 18 2010, 02:09 PM)
why got sherlock holmes there ? if you want to start using fictional characters as your basis for argument then i also can say doraemon no smoke, jesus no smoke , etc etc
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why do you think they made the character smokes pipe ?
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but i got nothing against pipes wor


also pipes were f***ing cool back then , nobody knew it would actually f*** your body up


see , i korek ! u no korek ! i win !
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QUOTE(coldogno7 @ Sep 18 2010, 02:14 PM)
jesus no smoke?then the cloud coming out from his ass? shakehead.gif
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i know there is a theory conspiracy saying jesus is an occasional weed smoker.
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smokers are suicidal by nature.

say tak nak to any types of cigarettes including pipe, kretek, cigars etc.

suck kelentit better.
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QUOTE(coldogno7 @ Sep 18 2010, 02:19 PM)
kids,..if u ever got scold for smoking,just show ur parent this

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Einstein brain doesn't work like most of malaysians here. so if later on my son show this to me, i would demand him to show me his IQ to be at least >9000. 200
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QUOTE(malayneum @ Sep 18 2010, 02:18 PM)
i know there is a theory conspiracy saying jesus is an occasional weed smoker.
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kids,..if u ever got scold for smoking,just show ur parent this

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The psychological benefits of pipe smoking have been described by many who have enjoyed the hobby, including Mark Twain, Albert Einstein and others. Einstein felt that pipe smoking facilitated his mental clarity when working on a difficult project. Many pictures of him at work show that he favored billard-shaped pipes. Pipe smokers often like to recite one of his most relevant quotes: "I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs". Indeed, it is difficult to measure the calming qualities of pipe smoking and the possible beneficial effects on our work, productivity, relationships, and relaxation.

http://www.meerschaumstore.com/health.htm

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gudang garam FTW.. one fag can suck and last for almost 20 minutes... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Sep 18 2010, 02:37 PM)
gudang garam FTW.. one fag can suck and last for almost 20 minutes... thumbup.gif
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smoking FTW

better than sucking those asap ekzos - u think ur place so environmental friendly ahhhhhhhhhhh

u tak suka smoke u keluarrrrrrrrrrrrr icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(coldogno7 @ Sep 18 2010, 02:19 PM)
kids,..if u ever got scold for smoking,just show ur parent this

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a lot of them smoked because there wasnt any knowledge of the dangers of it.

the inventor of x-ray died due to exposure to radiation. So do you think ppl still willingly expose themselves to radiation? NO!

but ppl still willingly smoke, why?
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wayne rooney also smoke
he paid 200quid(rm1000) for thr bell hop 2 get him a pack of Marlboro.
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wut is tektek?
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 18 2010, 06:57 PM)
wut is tektek?
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is the thingy hanging on ur mother's chest...otherwise known as"boobies" brows.gif
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 18 2010, 06:57 PM)
wut is tektek?
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I wonder how many here actually appreciates cigs, whats more kreteks
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now with the increase in cigarettes price more ppl. will switch to contraband kreteks.
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Kan neh indonesian cigs can last you for a long time. I sit there smoke Gdg Garam and was wondering why is it taking so long to burn lols.
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oh kretek thread?

nusantara methol FTW
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mana nusantara?
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QUOTE(gnerogeem @ Oct 4 2010, 03:48 PM)
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Gudang garam is made of clove right? why is it more harmful than regular cigarette like Dunhill? hmm.gif Or is it not? Need help here, no more kick smoking Dunhill, Winston and the likes but enjoy this gudang garam



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QUOTE(SingTime @ Oct 4 2010, 05:28 PM)
Gudang garam is made of clove right? why is it more harmful than regular cigarette like Dunhill?  hmm.gif  Or is it not?  Need help here, no more kick smoking Dunhill, Winston and the likes but enjoy this gudang garam
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yes, part of the tobacco is made from cloves

i dunno why but what i know (i ask some indon people about this b4) they said that smoking tobacco+clove can cure your cough problem.

still still smoking winston, though less kick

but gudang garam, when your doing heavy duty work, it kicks hard
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Oct 4 2010, 05:32 PM)
yes, part of the tobacco is made from cloves

i dunno why but what i know (i ask some indon people about this b4) they said that smoking tobacco+clove can cure your cough problem.

still still smoking winston, though less kick

but gudang garam, when your doing heavy duty work, it kicks hard
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"it kick hard" meaning you feel the taste stronger or what? About the health side, is it really more harmful???

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i dont smoke kretek anymore. since couple of month ago im addicted to european made handrolled tobacco. feels like a rich man.

girls nowadays dont think smoking factory made cigarettes cool anymore. they also complain the smell is bad to your breath and surrounding.

but, if you handroll your vanilla flavored cigarette (without the rolling machine), then you are a machoman. i think its the same reason why girls think smoking shisha is cool.
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post Oct 4 2010, 06:02 PM

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nusantara hijau memang the best.
tapi bau dia lekat dekat baju la.
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post Oct 4 2010, 06:52 PM

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I like this Sampoerna menthol. Sedap.
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post Oct 12 2010, 02:17 PM

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bump for justice
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post Oct 25 2010, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Oct 12 2010, 02:17 PM)
bump for justice
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post Oct 25 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Oct 4 2010, 05:55 PM)
what is kelentik ??
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not kelentik but kelentit. clitoris
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post Oct 31 2010, 09:36 PM

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Why some people say gudang garam is more harmful than regular cigarette? I try to find prove of that in internet but only found otherwise.

"The venous plasma nicotine and carbon monoxide levels from 10 smokers were tested after smoking kreteks and were found to be similar to non-clove brands of cigarettes, such as Marlboro.

Rats were given equal inhalation doses of conventional tobacco cigarettes and kreteks over a short period. Those that had inhaled kreteks did not appear to show worse health effects compared to those that had inhaled conventional cigarettes. The study was repeated with a 14-day exposure and kreteks again did not produce worse health effects than conventional cigarettes."

http://www.saleclovecigarettes.com/clove-cigarettes.php


Is it true then???
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post Oct 31 2010, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(SingTime @ Oct 31 2010, 09:36 PM)
Why some people say gudang garam is more harmful than regular cigarette? I try to find prove of that in internet but only found otherwise.

"The venous plasma nicotine and carbon monoxide levels from 10 smokers were tested after smoking kreteks and were found to be similar to non-clove brands of cigarettes, such as Marlboro.

Rats were given equal inhalation doses of conventional tobacco cigarettes and kreteks over a short period. Those that had inhaled kreteks did not appear to show worse health effects compared to those that had inhaled conventional cigarettes. The study was repeated with a 14-day exposure and kreteks again did not produce worse health effects than conventional cigarettes."

http://www.saleclovecigarettes.com/clove-cigarettes.php
Is it true then???
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unless the test done by proper independent researcher, we still don't know what effect of it to show which is harmful
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post Dec 25 2010, 10:30 AM

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DJI SAM SOE = 234 (in Hokkien)

http://www.agriculturesource.com/p-10-dji-...tte-323815.html

This post has been edited by Fei Kei: Jan 26 2011, 11:01 PM
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post Jan 27 2011, 01:25 AM

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kretek suffered fr a social stigma, being a low class cigi smoked by indon labourers.

This post has been edited by jeffW: Jan 27 2011, 01:25 AM
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post Jan 27 2011, 01:43 AM

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last time (or do they still do it now), the gomen said smoking is bad and will lead to illicit drugs....hmmm...there could possibly be millions of drug addict now in mareshia.
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post Jan 27 2011, 09:47 AM

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Dji Sam Doe Premium + Kopi Luwak = puncak nafsu whistling.gif

This post has been edited by Fei Kei: Jan 27 2011, 10:01 AM
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post Jan 27 2011, 10:12 AM

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kretek kretek...sedap...
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post Mar 24 2012, 04:28 PM

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i can only get sampoerna around my area. where in KL can find find all the other kreteks? i heard chow kit got?
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post Mar 24 2012, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Minority116 @ Sep 17 2010, 11:54 PM)
kretek is nice with a bottle of tiger beer, isham rais approved! tongue.gif

but i prefer my dunhill more.
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