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post Sep 17 2010, 12:12 AM, updated 16y ago

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Welcome to V46!!!!!!!!!

Previous thread (V45)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V44)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V43)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V42)>>>HERE<<<
Previous thread (V41)>>>HERE<<<

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Sony Alpha User List :

A100
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A200
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A300
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A350
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A700
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A900
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New Sony Alpha Line-up Userlist

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A330
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A380
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NEX-3
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>>>Sony Alpha F.A.Q<<< courtesy of Ahmike

Common Kelvin White Balance Settings :
2500K - very strong orange tungsten light
2800K - strong orange tungsten light
3200K - yellowish tungsten light
4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it)
5500K - flash
6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light)
9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light

Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.

Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You

should be able to do this with practice.

With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!

M = Magenta
G = Green
2500K = Blue
9900K = Amber

Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is

too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K

M9.

To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these

methods, or a combination of them:

- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11)
- use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100)
- use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a

second)
- use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash

Sony Alpha Lens Line-up : HERE courtesy of vcxv

Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera :

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap vmad.gif - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals :

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How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok :


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post Sep 17 2010, 12:12 AM

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as usual, Alpha users who wants the userbar..

Imageshack was unable to recover A200, A300, A350 & A700 userbars and as a result, new userbars were uploaded.. Those using the userbar, please update your URL.. icon_rolleyes.gif

A100 : image url : http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2687/alpha100cb9.png

A200 : user posted image
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A300 : user posted image
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A350 : user posted image
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A700 : user posted image
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A900 : user posted image
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New Alpha line-up userbar

A230 : user posted image
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A330 : user posted image
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A380 : user posted image
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Some useful link :

Tamron/Sigma/Sony/Minolta 70-200mm F2.8 Shootout
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1243

Ultra Wide Comparison
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1324
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Alpha street pricelist ***updated 28th July 2010***

Camera
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Sony A230 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A290 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM14xx
Sony A330 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM18xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM20xx
Sony A380 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A390 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM17xx
Sony A700 + 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM33xx
Sony A550 body only = RM21xx
Sony A500 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT SAM = RM31xx
Sony A550 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM = RM24xx
Sony A550 + 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM40xx
Sony A850 body only = RM61xx
Sony A900 body only = RM73xx (Studio Zaloon)
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 = RM16xx
Sony NEX-3 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM18xx
Sony NEX-3 + 16mm F2.8 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-5 + 16mm F2.8 = RM21xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS = RM22xx
Sony NEX-5 + 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS + 4GB MSPD = RM23xx

The following suffixes identify what lens comes with the camera body:

G = Sony 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DT
K = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT
L = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM
P = Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT
Q = Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM
W = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
X = Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT
Y = Sony 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 DT SAM + Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT (2) SAM
Z = Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA

For Sony NEX bodies:

A = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake
D = Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake + Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS
H = Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS
K = Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS

Battery Grip
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Sony VG-B30AM for A200/A300/A350 = RM6xx
Sony VG-C70AM battery grip for A700 = RM9xx
Sony VG-C90AM for A900 = RM9xx

Flash
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Sony HVL-F20AM = RM4xx
Sony HVL-F42AM = RM7xx
Sony HVL-F58AM = RM11xx

Sony/Minolta Used Lenses
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Minolta 28mm F2.8 = RM450-600
Minolta 35-70 F4 (mini beercan) = RM250-400
Minolta 50mm F1.4 = RM750-850
Minolta 50mm F1.7 = RM450-600
Sony 55-200mm F4-5.6 DT = RM450-550
Minolta 70-210mm F4 (beercan) = RM750-1100
Minolta 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 (big beercan) = RM1000-1500
Sony 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 = RM450-550

New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses
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Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx
Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx
Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx
Sony 30mm F2.8 DT SAM Macro = RM7xx (NEW)
Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx
Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx

New Full-Frame Lenses
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Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx
Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx
Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx
Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx
Sony 28-75mm F2.8 SAM = RM26xx (NEW)
Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx
Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx
Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx
Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx
Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx
Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx
Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx
Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx
Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx
Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx
Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx
Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx
Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx
Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
Sony LA-EA1 lens adapter = RM5xx
Sony VCL-ECF1 fisheye adapter = RM3xx
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@fans : pic 35 is nice...

welcome to thread v46 ! Alpha rocks
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5564321: no, its the A550 LCD issue that boost too much read, on computer, the red is FINE. a lot ppl thou the red is over in A550, its not. its an A550 LCD error

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@fans : pic 35 is nice...

welcome to thread v46 ! Alpha rocks
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Hahaha I'm back on a new thread! Was really busy back then. Still is. ): Very nice photos I'm seeing from clivengu there. (:
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QUOTE(fansoption @ Sep 17 2010, 12:27 AM)
Thx #35 i try my A550 HDR to take one haha!
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u shud try using photomatix... change the EV stops of ur RAW files or jpeg using photoshop, then merge in Photomatix
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*edited*
thanks to albnok for the advice in previous thread
btw, does anyone find it hard to take pict with your subject on a table?

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noprob : Nice i love #2 and #4 your rain drop geng then my one haha! what lens you using?
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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...08.html&prev=_t

a55 selling like hot cakes in japan
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Sep 17 2010, 12:30 AM)
Hahaha I'm back on a new thread! Was really busy back then. Still is. ): Very nice photos I'm seeing from clivengu there. (:
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Thanks MOO! welcome back.. not seeing u for sometime... after the trip, I guess im in love with my TOKINA already.. Don even think of buying secondhand from me..HAHHAHA
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i don care..... i wanna wait for a77...... brows.gif brows.gif


Added on September 17, 2010, 1:14 amclivengu: yes, i think tokina is something nice!! i guess it's sharper than my tammy

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Finish Uploading my trip photos in my Europe in my website www.clivengu.com filtering from 2000 + photos taken ...

Am i uploading too many photos at on 1 page? too cramp?... can comment on how is the viewing experience in my page like ? notworthy.gif thanks
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I just started a new foodblog with pics taken from NEX-3.. Need C&C to improve.... I know the photos are still quite shit lol...
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 17 2010, 01:44 AM)
Finish Uploading my trip photos in my Europe in my website www.clivengu.com filtering from 2000 + photos taken ...

Am i uploading too many photos at on 1 page? too cramp?... can comment on how is the viewing experience in my page like ? notworthy.gif  thanks
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a bit cramped i think. how about using thumbnails and lightbox?
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a bit cramped i think. how about using thumbnails and lightbox?
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guys, STOP REPLY "new thread wow here and there" u will get holiday!
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2moro go down melaka.. icon_rolleyes.gif

any nice place for portrait shooting?...and place with nice flower...going melaka zoo as well... icon_idea.gif

asking those pro...normally how u all use ur flash?..my F42 seemed quite hard to control...last nite in room, try my prime with danbo...and flash..

1st attempt, i use all auto setting on flash, iso 400, F1.8..i adjust the shutter till get the light meter to about 0.2..then the flash seemed like to low power...coz not bright enuf..

2nd attempt, i use flash at 1/32 point upward to ceiling...but too bright, i use iso200 and 1/160 F1.8...lol...

3nd attempt, Flash at 1/32, speed 1/200, iso 200 F1.8..tak cukup bright pulak...

mission failed.. rclxub.gif cry.gif


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Ahpingko, with 1/200s the 1/32 power won't be enuff.. Even u're using f1.4 pun coz u have to see the distance..

I think beter use higher power for the flash.. How high ur ceiling? Bouncing needs lots of power coz it diffuses some of the light..
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Ahpingko, with 1/200s the 1/32 power won't be enuff.. Even u're using f1.4 pun coz u have to see the distance..

I think beter use higher power for the flash.. How high ur ceiling? Bouncing needs lots of power coz it diffuses some of the light..
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at 1/200 with 1/32 power, i direct flash to the danbo...not enough bright...if i use 1/160 with 1/32 power...bounce anywhere also too bright..


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ahpingko: Sounds like your shutter speed was slow in the 1st attempt and so there was more ambient light than flash light. So the effect of the flash is little.

When using shutter speeds faster than 1/160s on the A550, the flash goes into High Speed Sync mode. This will take up a lot of power. If you try 1/4000s the power will be even less.

You can change your A550's EV and it will effect the flash. I suggest trying 1/160s F1.8 ISO200 EV -2, and bouncing.

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ahpingko: Sounds like your shutter speed was slow in the 1st attempt and so there was more ambient light than flash light. So the effect of the flash is little.

When using shutter speeds faster than 1/160s on the A550, the flash goes into High Speed Sync mode. This will take up a lot of power. If you try 1/4000s the power will be even less.

You can change your A550's EV and it will effect the flash. I suggest trying 1/160s F1.8 ISO200 EV -2, and bouncing.
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tried b4...at that setting still overexpose...too bright..lol..got diffuser on as well...if go up 1/200, become not enough bright..lol..

btw, for daytime shooting, at iso200 1/160 F2.2, best setting for flash is leave it auto ?..
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What the heck man, the Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC in A-mount is 111mm long!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10091610samsyng35mm1p4.asp

Fortunately the MFD is 30cm like all other 35mm F1.4 lenses.

Minolta/Sony 35mm F1.4G - 55mm filter thread, 510 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5x maximum magnification, 76mm long
Canon 35mm F1.4L USM - 72mm filter thread, 580 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5.5x maximum magnification, 86mm long
Nikkor AF-S 35mm F1.4G SWM - 67mm filter thread, 600 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5x maximum magnification, 89.5mm long
Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC - 77mm filter thread, weight N/A, 30cm MFD, maximum magnification N/A, 111mm long (Alpha mount)

To give you an idea of how long 111mm is - the Carl Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 SSM is 111mm long, and the Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8 is 115mm long!

ahpingko: So you can try 1/200s ISO1600 F1.8. biggrin.gif You can leave it in Auto for daylight as it needs to pick a fast-enough shutter speed to avoid overexposing the background.
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ahpingko: So you can try 1/200s ISO1600 F1.8. biggrin.gif You can leave it in Auto for daylight as it needs to pick a fast-enough shutter speed to avoid overexposing the background.
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i m trying to avoid ISO above 400... rclxms.gif

anyway..i try and see...learn from experiments.. tongue.gif
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back from I-City last nite,
damn the parking fees is RM10 (and the makcik says adik hari biasa rm5 WTFFFF!!!, weekends and public hols rm10)
before raya was rm2 only , cekik darah kaw2 vmad.gif


wah the Samyang 35mm is long and 77mm filter is biggg laugh.gif
hoping the price around the FE and 85mm sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Sep 17 2010, 11:09 AM)
back from I-City last nite,
damn the parking fees is RM10 (and the makcik says adik hari biasa rm5 WTFFFF!!!, weekends and public hols rm10)
before raya was rm2 only , cekik darah kaw2  vmad.gif
wah the Samyang 35mm is long and 77mm filter is biggg  laugh.gif
hoping the price around the FE and 85mm  sweat.gif
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tat day i go i din pay anything... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

guys..do u know why i cant use my ms pro duo which last time i use in my PSP...my a550 say it cant record image properly...apa hal ah?? hmm.gif

and u all normally shoot in fine-jpg or raw??...

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tat day i go i din pay anything... brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

guys..do u know why i cant use my ms pro duo which last time i use in my PSP...my a550 say it cant record image properly...apa hal ah?? hmm.gif

and u all normally shoot in fine-jpg or raw??...
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no lah, i go park far far away.
no point par rm10 just for parking, if siap cuci my car i dont mind laugh.gif

try format in PC then format again in ur a550... nod.gif
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Sep 17 2010, 11:14 AM)
no lah, i go park far far away.
no point par rm10 just for parking, if siap cuci my car i dont mind  laugh.gif

try format in PC then format again in ur a550... nod.gif
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Sep 17 2010, 11:09 AM)
back from I-City last nite,
damn the parking fees is RM10 (and the makcik says adik hari biasa rm5 WTFFFF!!!, weekends and public hols rm10)
before raya was rm2 only , cekik darah kaw2  vmad.gif
wah need to pay? i thought free..
licensed parking or what..
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guys, STOP REPLY "new thread wow here and there" u will get holiday!
5564321: no, its the A550 LCD issue that boost too much read, on computer, the red is FINE. a lot ppl thou the red is over in A550, its not. its an A550 LCD error
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guys, STOP REPLY "new thread wow here and there" u will get holiday!
5564321: no, its the A550 LCD issue that boost too much read, on computer, the red is FINE. a lot ppl thou the red is over in A550, its not. its an A550 LCD error
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No, it's not the LCD of camera. Even I view it on computer monitor, the red colours are always over saturated. Do you have any samples with red colour?
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damn...just heard a sad news..some say that the A560 and A580 wont be launched in M'sia?? or just A560??Damn I've got my eyes n money on tat 1...T.T

Any insights from u pros?
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 17 2010, 08:08 AM)
2moro go down melaka.. icon_rolleyes.gif

any nice place for portrait shooting?...and place with nice flower...going melaka zoo as well... icon_idea.gif

asking those pro...normally how u all use ur flash?..my F42 seemed quite hard to control...last nite in room, try my prime with danbo...and flash..

1st attempt, i use all auto setting on flash, iso 400, F1.8..i adjust the shutter till get the light meter to about 0.2..then the flash seemed like to low power...coz not bright enuf..

2nd attempt, i use flash at 1/32 point upward to ceiling...but too bright, i use iso200 and 1/160 F1.8...lol...

3nd attempt, Flash at 1/32, speed 1/200, iso 200 F1.8..tak cukup bright pulak...

mission failed.. rclxub.gif  cry.gif
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ahpingko... u coming melaka tmr ? If u wan shoot flower, I recommand u go to Taman Seribu Bunga.

btw, wanna meet up? Maybe i got time tomorow. pm me ur details smile.gif
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lol...u bringing models ah?..i dono go whr yet...time oso not sure... tongue.gif
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haha, seriously, go to Taman Seribu Bunga for nature and flower lolz... it's not far from Ayer Keroh toll...

i see gt time, maybe join you shoot shoot flower at that taman lo
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no la, where gt time bring model...
haha, seriously, go to Taman Seribu Bunga for nature and flower lolz... it's not far from Ayer Keroh toll...

i see gt time, maybe join you shoot shoot flower at that taman lo
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i maybe go zoo...
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 17 2010, 02:19 PM)
u so pro....i sked.. brows.gif

i maybe go zoo...
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i din go there for like years already... haha, always wanted a partner tapi tak pergi...

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What the heck man, the Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC in A-mount is 111mm long!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10091610samsyng35mm1p4.asp

Fortunately the MFD is 30cm like all other 35mm F1.4 lenses.

Minolta/Sony 35mm F1.4G - 55mm filter thread, 510 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5x maximum magnification, 76mm long
Canon 35mm F1.4L USM - 72mm filter thread, 580 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5.5x maximum magnification, 86mm long
Nikkor AF-S 35mm F1.4G SWM - 67mm filter thread, 600 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5x maximum magnification, 89.5mm long
Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC - 77mm filter thread, weight N/A, 30cm MFD, maximum magnification N/A, 111mm long (Alpha mount)

To give you an idea of how long 111mm is - the Carl Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 SSM is 111mm long, and the Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8 is 115mm long!

ahpingko: So you can try 1/200s ISO1600 F1.8. biggrin.gif You can leave it in Auto for daylight as it needs to pick a fast-enough shutter speed to avoid overexposing the background.
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Woah that is such a huge lens considering it is just 35mm . Sony 35mm f1.8 one only same size like 50mm size. but is this samyang a ff lens? But how is d optic performance of samyang lens, is it really worth it since it is manual focusing. I never have the cobfident to do manual focusing seems too difficult ;(
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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Sep 17 2010, 01:37 PM)
damn...just heard a sad news..some say that the A560 and A580 wont be launched in M'sia?? or just A560??Damn I've got my eyes n money on tat 1...T.T

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i know it's gonna be delayed but i didn't know it won't be launched here
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 17 2010, 02:24 PM)
Woah that is such a huge lens considering it is just 35mm . Sony 35mm f1.8 one only same size like 50mm size. but is this samyang a ff lens? But how is d optic performance of  samyang lens, is it really worth it since it is manual focusing. I never have the cobfident to do manual focusing seems too difficult ;(
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With that size, it MUST be a FF lens. Who would want to lug around an APS-C 35mm lens of that size! And manual focus too. The IQ had better be exceptional or it will be dead in the water on release.

I am eagerly awaiting the 85mm f2.8 SAM lens to come to M'sia...

I am also looking to get the CZ 24mm f2 also but that would be waaaayyyyy later...
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Hey guys, my F42am flash is acting up ~_~ Sometimes the flash will be out of sync with my shutter, like when i take a picture the flash will always be slower than my shutter de (probably by a few mili secs) so I don't usually get my subjects well lit. I checked my camera and my flash settings is on normal flash and not rear sync. It can be corrected after i detach the flash and reattach it again to my a350. Soooooo, has anybody experienced this problem???

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Good afternoon everyone, I am planning to have a SLT a33. Currently owning a NEX-5 tiwn lens. Do you guys think I can trade in and get a33 with kitlens without paying extra???
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QUOTE(yuhi @ Sep 17 2010, 02:49 PM)
Hey guys, my F42am flash is acting up ~_~ Sometimes the flash will be out of sync with my shutter, like when i take a picture the flash will always be slower than my shutter de (probably by a few mili secs) so I don't usually get my subjects well lit. I checked my camera and my flash settings is on normal flash and not rear sync. It can be corrected after i detach the flash and reattach it again to my a350. Soooooo,  has anybody experienced this problem???

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Try cleaning the metal contacts on your body's hotshoe. It may have oxidized and not giving a good contact with your flash.

Is your flash loose when mounted on your body? If it is then this could be causing your problem. Try sticking a piece of tape on the hotshoe to address this issue.

QUOTE(esmonde @ Sep 17 2010, 02:49 PM)
Good afternoon everyone, I am planning to have a SLT a33. Currently owning a NEX-5 tiwn lens. Do you guys think I can trade in and get a33 with kitlens without paying extra???
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Probably not. I do not think any camera shop will accept trade-in. Best you can do is sell the NEX for as high a price as you can and top up a bit for the A33. Electronic gadgets depreciate even before the ink on your credit card transaction slip dries up after you sign it. It's a sad fact of life.

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mastering89: Yeah I hope so too!

The Sigma 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM is RM4xxx. Madness! sad.gif

ahpingko: The MSPD was probably pirated. My WX-1 and NEX-5 both say the same thing on an MSPD that works perfectly on my A700 and A900 (because Sony didn't make a big issue about it then I guess.)

You know lah if properly exposed, an ISO1600 shot can be very clean also.

5564321: I wrote a tutorial way back to restore tones in blown colors:

http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1313

ReasonsofThanatos: It has not been launched yet, but that doesn't mean it will never be launched - the A380 and A500 made it here after all even though they were not supposed to be.

clivengu: Not that hard honestly. The Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC is a FF lens. Same goes for the 14mm F2.8 and 85mm F1.4, while the 8mm F3.5 diagonal fisheye is APS-C only.

And to think, I used to think the Minolta 35mm F1.4G was a heavy lens, and it was front-heavy (it's fairly long for a prime.)

yuhi: Clean your A350's flash contacts with a blue ink eraser. Turn off and turn on camera and flash. It should be in sync.
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ahpingko: The MSPD was probably pirated. My WX-1 and NEX-5 both say the same thing on an MSPD that works perfectly on my A700 and A900 (because Sony didn't make a big issue about it then I guess.)

You know lah if properly exposed, an ISO1600 shot can be very clean also.
ya...that mspd is pirated 1...but can use in psp wor... shakehead.gif

why a550 cant...lol...sien lo...wasted 1 card..
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ya...that mspd is pirated 1...but can use in psp wor... shakehead.gif

why a550 cant...lol...sien lo...wasted 1 card..
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Buy new one lar... memory cards are not so expensive nowadays.
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 17 2010, 03:11 PM)
ya...that mspd is pirated 1...but can use in psp wor... shakehead.gif

why a550 cant...lol...sien lo...wasted 1 card..
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so does that means Sony is cracking down on pirated MSPD by disabling it's function on newer devices?
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my bro sent me pic, he jalan2 at Akihabara yesterday. woots the SAL85mm 2.8 SAM is quite cheap laugh.gif
but dunno this is RRP or street price sad.gif (but got sticker on the right show 10%, dunno what it meant )
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albnok : if compare the sigma 85mm to the CZ how??

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 17 2010, 03:11 PM)
ya...that mspd is pirated 1...but can use in psp wor... shakehead.gif

why a550 cant...lol...sien lo...wasted 1 card..
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hey ahpingko...i got the microsd to MSPD adapter.. one slot though.. if u wan, pm me.. it's new..
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something to share with u guys - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1563017
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where can buy this Bracket can mount on my a550 and the small ballhead

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where can buy this Bracket can mount on my a550 and the small ballhead
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that one i think u need to DIY sweat.gif
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that one i think u need to DIY sweat.gif
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Oh ic and where can buy the flash wired?
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evilhomura89: Yep!

mastering89: The Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA is about RM4900 street price. The Sigma is still cheaper but we have yet to see how its optical performance will be.

If it's great wide open, it will be worth it for HSM alone.

The Sigma 85mm F1.4 was not in stock yet so I didn't get to try it, even on another mount.

fansoption: It looks DIY lah.

You can find some brackets at Digicolor, Mutiara Complex, 4th Mile of Jalan Ipoh.

You can find the flash extender cable at Studio Zaloon, Pudu Plaza.
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anyone here know how i can reduce the iso for HHT mode in nex... ? too much noise when it uses high ISO...
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QUOTE(yuhi @ Sep 17 2010, 02:49 PM)
Hey guys, my F42am flash is acting up ~_~ Sometimes the flash will be out of sync with my shutter, like when i take a picture the flash will always be slower than my shutter de (probably by a few mili secs) so I don't usually get my subjects well lit. I checked my camera and my flash settings is on normal flash and not rear sync. It can be corrected after i detach the flash and reattach it again to my a350. Soooooo,  has anybody experienced this problem???

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How much ur shutter speed?
If faster than 1/160s (in a350) I think u should activate HSS (high speed shutter) in ur f42am hehe
If slower than that then I think it's the contact issue like they say above~


QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 17 2010, 03:06 PM)
Probably not. I do not think any camera shop will accept trade-in. Best you can do is sell the NEX for as high a price as you can and top up a bit for the A33. Electronic gadgets depreciate even before the ink on your credit card transaction slip dries up after you sign it. It's a sad fact of life.
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Haha yes so sad indeed..
Buy for just 2days oso price will go low..
It's USED item.. No matter how many days/months/years used hehehe.. Its SECOND-HAND kan?
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Oh ic and where can buy the flash wired?
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here u go: http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119393
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The A580 will be coming to Malaysia in October 2010. Just in time to be tried against the A55. The A33 and SEL18200 are already in Sony Style outlets.

Deerc: Handheld Twilight is a lot cleaner than if you set ISO manually. If you insist on using a lower ISO then use 7 FPS drive mode instead.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 17 2010, 03:06 PM)
Probably not. I do not think any camera shop will accept trade-in. Best you can do is sell the NEX for as high a price as you can and top up a bit for the A33. Electronic gadgets depreciate even before the ink on your credit card transaction slip dries up after you sign it. It's a sad fact of life.
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so A55 sonystyle got?
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hey guys, what's the best settings for photos to have nice vivid color. not too saturated yet nice enough to make the colors pop, not too neutral and not to vivid. what's your fav settings?

and the icons on the setting are contrast, saturation, sharpness in order right?

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Thanks guys! I think it was the camera hotshoe problem! Should be solved already. Thanks thanks! smile.gif
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hey guyz, did anyone know where can i get this kind of pop up flash diffuser ?

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hey guyz, did anyone know where can i get this kind of pop up flash diffuser ?

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i have a set of that ...
3 colour, white ,orange, blue..

used once oni...

if u wan, i sell u cheap cheap... pm me.. rm 10 oni, postage u bear..
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http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-the-son...ords-in-720p60/

wow.... drool.gif drool.gif
we shall see what are they going to update us about the pro dslr in the coming months... haha.....

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A small update about the Sony A700 successor called “A77″:

1) The A77 can be a little bit more bulky, heavier and can produce more photo’s from the NEW battery (around 1.000 pictures). The battery is also compatible with the Pro DSLR which Sony will launch months after the A77.

2) The camera can do 720p60 and 720p30. We are not certain yet if it can do 1080p24 (but probably yes)

3) It will take CF+SD+MS cards, of wich you can use two at the same time (CF+MS or SD +MS or only SD)

I repeat, we will see a prototype verison at Photokina. The real camera will be announced early 2011!
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oh guys, wanna ask ur opinion about EVF. i personally don really like it coz it doesn look real. haha....
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guys, especially sifu...
wanna ask, recently my Ansmann battery used in my f42 discharge damn fast..

couldnt even last for 100 shots...

I using 360 bounce card for the flash (recently just start using )
will this cause the flash to use more power ?

I wanted to warranty the battery but the shop keeper ask me try with direct bounce first (bounce with ceiling )

he said the bounce card will cause the TTL to misread and use more power ..

tak tau betul or not..

i do understand that by bouncing, i suffer light loss , thus use more power, but will it be that significant ?

from few hundreds shots to about 50 ?
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fasoption: 51 is a good catch... nice..... droplet in a leaf-shaped droplet on a leaf. haha... if can focus the whole big droplet will b nicer. just my 2 cents
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fasoption: 51 is a good catch... nice..... droplet in a leaf-shaped droplet on a leaf. haha... if can focus the whole big droplet will b nicer. just my 2 cents
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 17 2010, 02:27 PM)
where did u heard the news from?
i know it's gonna be delayed but i didn't know it won't be launched here
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Some forum online..i've forgot the exact site but if you google "sony a560 malaysia" there should be 1 of d post there..

QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 17 2010, 03:09 PM)
mastering89: Yeah I hope so too!

The Sigma 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM is RM4xxx. Madness! sad.gif

ahpingko: The MSPD was probably pirated. My WX-1 and NEX-5 both say the same thing on an MSPD that works perfectly on my A700 and A900 (because Sony didn't make a big issue about it then I guess.)

You know lah if properly exposed, an ISO1600 shot can be very clean also.

5564321: I wrote a tutorial way back to restore tones in blown colors:

http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1313

ReasonsofThanatos: It has not been launched yet, but that doesn't mean it will never be launched - the A380 and A500 made it here after all even though they were not supposed to be.

clivengu: Not that hard honestly. The Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC is a FF lens. Same goes for the 14mm F2.8 and 85mm F1.4, while the 8mm F3.5 diagonal fisheye is APS-C only.

And to think, I used to think the Minolta 35mm F1.4G was a heavy lens, and it was front-heavy (it's fairly long for a prime.)

yuhi: Clean your A350's flash contacts with a blue ink eraser. Turn off and turn on camera and flash. It should be in sync.
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oh guys, wanna ask ur opinion about EVF. i personally don really like it coz it doesn look real. haha....
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well, no one can really tell u until you try it out
i've seen some really bad EVF but i'm not sure about the a33/55 EVF
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Reasonsofthanatos, did you miss this posting? I called the Alpha product manager to confirm this. The A560 will be delayed but the A580 will be coming soon.

QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 17 2010, 08:19 PM)
The A580 will be coming to Malaysia in October 2010. Just in time to be tried against the A55. The A33 and SEL18200 are already in Sony Style outlets.

Deerc: Handheld Twilight is a lot cleaner than if you set ISO manually. If you insist on using a lower ISO then use 7 FPS drive mode instead.
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Added on September 18, 2010, 1:32 amfansoption: A55 is coming in October 2010.

zeipher: Yes contrast/saturation/sharpness.

eddybeh: Have you the EVF on the A33?

d4rkholeang3l: Put your F42 and 360 bounce card on the floor, pointing up. Trigger it wirelessly.

Observe how much light goes in front, and how much goes behind the flash. Take a picture of it and show us.

The Gary Fong Lightsphere is a major light sucker (since it bounces half of the light to the back!)

And no, TTL will not be misled by bounce cards. TTL will always send one pre-flash, and detect how bright that pre-flash is through the lens (hence the TTL name) and then adjust power accordingly.



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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Sep 18 2010, 12:00 AM)
guys, especially sifu...
wanna ask, recently my Ansmann battery used in my f42 discharge damn fast..

couldnt even last for 100 shots...

I using 360 bounce card for the flash (recently just start using )
will this cause the flash to use more power ?

I wanted to warranty the battery but the shop keeper ask me try with direct bounce first (bounce with ceiling )

he said the bounce card will cause the TTL to misread and use more power ..

tak tau betul or not..

i do understand that by bouncing, i suffer light loss , thus use more power, but will it be that significant ?

from few hundreds shots to about 50 ?
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using any modifier, usually end up with using more power.

direct uses the less power....

direct bounce are good, big bounce card are good too...

but modifier tat 'block' or 'slow/disperse' the light, take up HUGE amount of power to get the same exposure of above setting. gary fong toilet bowl, stofen, etc... take up more power.


ReasonsofThanatos: something u have to learn, there are many jealous fanboy out there, posting nonsense no source or proof speculation in other forum to mislead or spoil sony reputation. pls dont speculate more false info. thank you.


Added on September 18, 2010, 1:37 amopps, albnok answered right before me... lol.

albnok, how do u rate the EVF of A33, like compare to the feel of Nex LCD display? how does it fare up at night? i mean, human eye are marvelous creation, we can enjoy a dance show even with 1lux of light... does the EVF can see 1 lux then our eye through OVF?


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d4rkholeang3l: Put your F42 and 360 bounce card on the floor, pointing up. Trigger it wirelessly. set manual power of 1/8

Observe how much light goes in front, and how much goes behind the flash. Take a picture of it and show us.

The Gary Fong Lightsphere is a major light sucker (since it bounces half of the light to the back!)

And no, TTL will not be misled by bounce cards. TTL will always send one pre-flash, and detect how bright that pre-flash is through the lens (hence the TTL name) and then adjust power accordingly.
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albnok hope u dont mind. this way, it will go consistence. else the TTL will fire more but cant be felt... with manual, it can see obviously other modifier dont bring as much light into front then direct smile.gif

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albnok & evilhomura89: well, the EVF i'm speaking of is not about the evf of A33 or any model. just a general discussion. i've tried 1 of the leicas that uses EVF and i seriously don like it.
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eddybeh, tubik tested A33 in SG, and he said, its better then nex lcd. so..... smile.gif

i have some old fuji and minolta camera... they uses EVF too, and they are terrible... i get what u mean, but u cannot generalize them since tech is improving daily tongue.gif
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ieR: The EVF is great! It might not be able to gain up so much in very low light, but then I have not tried it in much lower light.

If I try recording a video in low light with a F2.8 lens and EV +1.3, the LCD may show the proper +1.3 EV effect, but during the video, because it has to shoot at at least 1/30s, the video looks underexposed. However once I mount the F1.4 it gets my intended exposure during video. So there will be a limit to how dark the EVF can see in.

And yes thanks for pointing out about the fixed manual power.

eddybeh: Ironically, the FDA-SV1 optical viewfinder for the NEX-3/NEX-5 is optically crap. It is very smeary off center unless you stick your eye exactly aligned to it... even then it looks very trippy inside.

The Leicas that used EVF were probably the Panasonic rebadges - as I remember those were many years ago.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 17 2010, 08:19 PM)

Deerc: Handheld Twilight is a lot cleaner than if you set ISO manually. If you insist on using a lower ISO then use 7 FPS drive mode instead.
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But Handheld Twilight cant set ISO... so it sometimes uses crazy ISO 6400... 7FPS is good but no AF for the continuous shot...
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But Handheld Twilight cant set ISO... so it sometimes uses crazy ISO 6400... 7FPS is good but no AF for the continuous shot...
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Handheld Twilight ISO 6400 I seldom see any noise in it because it combines 7 different shots to reduce the noise. Continuous shot do not have AF but AF will be fixed on the first shot.

It should work like this. Correct me if anything is wrong. smile.gif
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Is it maybe my subject moving so not so effective?
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Hi all, any of you been to taman seribu bunga melaka before? where's the exact location ah? i cant find in google map..>.<
and any other plc for shooting in the area of ayer keroh? hehe thx thx... ahpingko is on his way to melaka~~ rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Is it maybe my subject moving so not so effective?
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Moving object not so effective. Because it needs 7 same shots to merge together. I have tried with static object and sometimes the result is not that clear too because maybe my hand was shaking. sad.gif

I think is just like taking HDR shot, if you shake abit you can see 2 layers . Don't know how to describe. Its like having shadow.
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Hi all, any of you been to taman seribu bunga melaka before? where's the exact location ah? i cant find in google map..>.<
and any other plc for shooting in the area of ayer keroh? hehe thx thx... ahpingko is on his way to melaka~~ rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Ayer keroh got so many places to go to shoot... Zoo, Taman Botanical Garden, Taman Buaya, The lake etc
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 18 2010, 01:23 AM)
Reasonsofthanatos, did you miss this posting? I called the Alpha product manager to confirm this. The A560 will be delayed but the A580 will be coming soon.

Added on September 18, 2010, 1:32 amfansoption: A55 is coming in October 2010.

zeipher: Yes contrast/saturation/sharpness.

eddybeh: Have you the EVF on the A33?

d4rkholeang3l: Put your F42 and 360 bounce card on the floor, pointing up. Trigger it wirelessly.

Observe how much light goes in front, and how much goes behind the flash. Take a picture of it and show us.

The Gary Fong Lightsphere is a major light sucker (since it bounces half of the light to the back!)

And no, TTL will not be misled by bounce cards. TTL will always send one pre-flash, and detect how bright that pre-flash is through the lens (hence the TTL name) and then adjust power accordingly.
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albnok, as u said, TTL will send the pre-flash, but if it suffers light loss from the bounce card, means it will set my flash to higher output power rite ?
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Ayer keroh got so many places to go to shoot... Zoo, Taman Botanical Garden, Taman Buaya, The lake etc
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taman buaya i heard gt vy few buayas d...xD haha thx ya!!
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A33 - A Very Brief Hands-On at Sony Style KLCC - 17 September 2010

As Thursday was a public holiday, most people opted not to work on Friday (17/9/2010). As me and my buddy were in the office - we work in KLCC, and did not have much work to do due to lack of people, we decided to make a trip to Sony Style - hoping that either the A33 or A55 had arrived.

To our delight, there was an A33 available for testing. We came prepared with a 8GB SDHC card so that we could pixel peep later. Since the camera was tethered to the display base, we could only shoot within the shop. However, our initial impressions of the camera were good, and I would like to share some with you guys here.

A33 - Size and Build

First thing we noticed was the size of the camera. It was really smaller than expected. The grip was comfortable enough, with the little finger tending to curl under the body. I have long fingers and the grip seemed decent.

The finish was OK, a bit rubbery to the touch, and I hope it doesn't wear with time.

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A33 - EVF

The thing I was personally most skeptical about was the EVF. Therefore, I was really pleasantly surprised by the quality of the viewfinder. I do not know how to describe it properly or take a photo of it, but I urge you to go and try it out. While panning, there is a kind of blur, sort of like the view on those old LCD monitors with slow response times. However, IMHO, this is not a major concern. Also, I wear glasses, and still the EVF was comfortable to use. The pixels are hardly noticeable, and I was instantly comfortable with it.

I also found that the menus are accessible from within the EVF. I was able to change ISO on the fly with my eye glued to the EVF. Also, the review image pops up immediately and you can review it in the EVF. I did notice a slight delay however after the shot was taken, and the review image pops up. Whether this is due to the slow memory card or camera issue I am not sure.

Overall I am quite satisfied with the EVF quality and can imagine myself using one in the future.

A33 - Performance

Here I will let the images speak for themselves. All were shot in fine JPEG mode, STD colour setting.

Camera: Sony A33
Lens: 18-55 SAM
Aperture: F5
Zoom: 18mm

ISO comparison (100% crops from the center of the image):

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As you can see, ISO800 is still useful, ISO1600 gets softer but I believe is passable with RAW and good processing. Above ISO6400 there is a yellowish tint to the image. I'm not sure why this happens, actually.

Full size photos are available here:

ISO800 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/
ISO1600 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/
ISO3200 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/
ISO6400 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/
ISO12800 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/

Some more full size photos for pixel peepers - close up of the teddy bear at 55mm F5.6:

ISO800 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/
ISO6400 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/

HDR Effect:

The camera can increase its dynamic range by either resorting to DRO or HDR mode. In HDR mode it fires a burst of shots, which are then merged. This can lead to some interesting effects, if the subject is not stationary (see below).

HDR/DRO Off:

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DRO Level 5:

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HDR Level 6:

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Another example:

HDR/DRO Off:

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HDR Level 6:

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Note the effect of HDR Level 6 multiple shots on this guy:

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Panorama:

The burst shot mode is also used to great effect to shoot panoramas. Tried it out and got this on my first attempt.

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Of course, nothing is perfect and there are some errors, such as these.

Error 1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/
Error 2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/

However, the overall effect is still kind of pleasing. Note the crop though, a normal picture is 3056 pixels high, but the panorama is only 1856 pixels high. The full shot is available here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/

Here is one last shot using the pop up flash and ISO100 (that is my friend!): http://www.flickr.com/photos/20607955@N05/...57624854158311/

Conclusion

It's up to you! biggrin.gif

Parting Remarks

Sorry for the amateur review quality and lonnngggg post. Hope you guys can make more sense of it than I did. notworthy.gif
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Moving object not so effective. Because it needs 7 same shots to merge together. I have tried with static object and sometimes the result is not that clear too because maybe my hand was shaking.  sad.gif

I think is just like taking HDR shot, if you shake abit you can see 2 layers . Don't know how to describe. Its like having shadow.
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So for conclusion HHT is for low light condition with subject not moving eh... haha. The HDR is just eyecandy to showoff. Nothing beats the manual HDR merging of different exposure photos.
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QUOTE(Deerc @ Sep 18 2010, 11:58 AM)
So for conclusion HHT is for low light condition with subject not moving eh... haha. The HDR is just eyecandy to showoff. Nothing beats the manual HDR merging of different exposure photos.
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Yaya, HDR if you move then will like the photo that d4rkholeang3l showed above. biggrin.gif
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hey guys , i want to ask what is the different between the 3 set offer by sony for the sony nex-3

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if i choose the RM2199 one then the only lens i get is the bigger lens but not include the RM1999 one (the smaller size) ?

thanks for answering. smile.gif noob here.

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yes, the NEX-3K comes with a 18-55mm lens while the NEX-3A comes with the 16mm pancake lens
if you want both lenses, get the NEX-3D package
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taman buaya i heard gt vy few buayas d...xD haha thx ya!!
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Make sure you bring something lens with 100 to 300mm range.. Its a waste of time if you bought kit lense.

I once shoot with my CZ1680 but can't reach the animal better.. Only got wide shot.. You can view its pic on my flickr.. Ah my pics are noob..


QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Sep 18 2010, 01:40 PM)
hey guys , i want to ask what is the different between the 3 set offer by sony for the sony nex-3

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if i choose the RM2199 one then the only lens i get is the bigger lens but not include the RM1999 one (the smaller size) ?

thanks for answering.  smile.gif  noob here.
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Better you buy at normal shop.. its price is around 70% from the Sony Store..


@albnok - Retail RM3699 ayte? maybe the street price for Nex-3 with 18-200 lens would be RM2590? Then it is super nice. Going to recommend my friend buy it
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 18 2010, 01:58 PM)
@theWeird_Weird
yes, the NEX-3K comes with a 18-55mm lens while the NEX-3A comes with the 16mm pancake lens
if you want both lenses, get the NEX-3D package
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may i know actually what is the difference between both of the lens ?
smile.gif thanks


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Make sure you bring something lens with 100 to 300mm range.. Its a waste of time if you bought kit lense.

I once shoot with my CZ1680 but can't reach the animal better.. Only got wide shot.. You can view its pic on my flickr.. Ah my pics are noob..
Better you buy at normal shop.. its price is around 70% from the Sony Store..
@albnok - Retail RM3699 ayte? maybe the street price for Nex-3 with 18-200 lens would be RM2590? Then it is super nice. Going to recommend my friend buy it
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i know that Sony Store is more expensive biggrin.gif i just take the details from the sony website for asking only tongue.gif


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QUOTE(destfull @ Sep 18 2010, 02:40 PM)
Make sure you bring something lens with 100 to 300mm range.. Its a waste of time if you bought kit lense.

I once shoot with my CZ1680 but can't reach the animal better.. Only got wide shot.. You can view its pic on my flickr.. Ah my pics are noob..
Better you buy at normal shop.. its price is around 70% from the Sony Store..
@albnok - Retail RM3699 ayte? maybe the street price for Nex-3 with 18-200 lens would be RM2590? Then it is super nice. Going to recommend my friend buy it
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sweat.gif I don't think sticking lens of that size to small body of NEX-3 will be a good idea, especially Nex-3 doesn't has a good grip compare to Nex-5.

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QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Sep 18 2010, 02:41 PM)
may i know actually what is the difference between both of the lens ?
smile.gif  thanks


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i know that Sony Store is more expensive  biggrin.gif  i just take the details from the sony website for asking only  tongue.gif
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18-55mm kit lens is something similar to 3x zoom
16mm is wideangle with no zoom
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Yaya, HDR if you move then will like the photo that d4rkholeang3l showed above.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Sep 18 2010, 03:48 PM)
i dun recall posting any pics here.. haha
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albnok: so its not like QLV where is has a limit of minimum light to able to see? i am afraid of this only, our eye can see real dark alley with minimum light sources... i wonder what the sensor can read...

d4rkholeang3l: the calculation of TTL is very sophisticated. u dont have to worry a thing, because IMHO, its very accurate. preflash is a consistence power fired, it will not fire more powerful preflash when it detect low light.

let me give u a more simple layman explanation.

let say for EXAMPLE, that preflash is 1/16 to ease the explanation.

when u use 1/16 power to fire direct, u get 100% of 1/16 on subject. hence the flash will fire only 1/16 power to lit up the subject.

when u bounce 1/16 power, u get lost of 40%(example) power in bounce, hence u only get about 1/32(example) light on subject, what TTL does is, it increase the power from 1/16 to 1/8(example) to give back the light on subject.

now, when u use a modifier (stofen or anything that diffuse the light by having something semi translucent, it take away more power then u think, up to 80%! (example)) hence with 1/16 power fire and left with 20% reaching the subject, the TTL detects it, and calculate it, fires 1/2 to compensate it.

the modifier will not affect TTL calculation much, but a modifier does affect how much the power is used.

so simple to say, comparing normally 1/16 power to 1/2, that is 3 times more power required, hence average of 600 shots(example), are down to 200 average shots

*let me stress it again before someone quote me per quote. the pre flash do not fires at 1/16, it was solely used as an example to ease the explanation.

jedi_master: thank for a nice review!

the EVF is great i heard from many friend who tested it, but i would like to see it myself. but from my own understanding.... the EVF has higher resolution then the Nex/A33/55 LCD display! so if u cant even see pixels on the LCD< the EVF is far more sharper (unlike pass EVF with pixelatted effect).

the iso test, cannot be used. because the iso6400 gain, increase the shutter speed drastically, under florescent lighting (they are green pulses lighting) u might capture the picture in the middle of a pulse at high speed, hence causing weird green tint and the WB somehow balance it back with yellow+magenta tint. the iso6400 and 12800 is not accountable for 64/128 iso test result. smile.gif

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18-55mm kit lens is something similar to 3x zoom
16mm is wideangle with no zoom
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the 16mm one included the fisheye lens or something like that? tongue.gif sry because i not really familiar with such thing. lol. i saw some review say it include the fisheye thingy. biggrin.gif
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the 16mm one included the fisheye lens or something like that?  tongue.gif  sry because i not really familiar with such thing. lol. i saw some review say it include the fisheye thingy. biggrin.gif
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the weird weird: NO, u are opt to purchase the fisheye or UWA conversion filter. the 16mm just comes with 16mm.
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@ier, thanks for the explanation...i understand already... i ll try shooting direct and without diffuser...
will wanna see the difference. thanks...

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nop. fisheye need too add extra money
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the weird weird: NO, u are opt to purchase the fisheye or UWA conversion filter. the 16mm just comes with 16mm.
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oic. how much i will need to add for the fisheye ah?
anyone know now the nex-3 with the 16mm lens outside selling how much ah?
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oic. how much i will need to add for the fisheye ah?
anyone know now the nex-3 with the 16mm lens outside selling how much ah?
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Cheapest would be 1.7k... still 85% of retail price la.. Impossible to get 70% LOL...
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Cheapest would be 1.7k... still 85% of retail price la.. Impossible to get 70% LOL...
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need to fund money for that. biggrin.gif
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Deerc: I said "Handheld Twilight is a lot cleaner than if you set ISO manually."

Which I shall rephrase:

There are two options - you can use:
1) Handheld Twilight
2) set ISO manually

Handheld Twilight is a lot cleaner. Have you noticed? ISO6400 HHT is a lot cleaner than ISO1600 in regular A mode. So what's the big deal? It seems to clean up motion as well.

Oh and of course, Handheld Twilight does not have AF in continuous shooting either!

You can merge the 2 JPGs from 6 EV HDR and use a mask to combine them. I will copy the part of the image with HDR to cover moving people. For example:

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6 EV HDR image.

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Regular "safe" JPG.

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Combined version.

(On a side note, not directed to you or anybody here, I find it annoying that I have friends who confuse the words "than" and "then".)

d4rkholeang3l: Yes correct, any light modifier will reduce how much light is going to the subject, and so more power must be used.

Eh, ieR did the explanation for pre-flash... seems like the 'credit-wrong-person' bug was passed on to you also LOL.

jedi_master: Thanks for the hands-on! I have to say it is very well done.

I went on Thursday actually to Sony Style Times Square but have been busy.

The coloration at higher ISOs is because Sony Style KLCC uses flourescent lighting, which flickers. You will always notice this at faster shutter speeds. Try shooting a 3 FPS burst at home with flourescent lights with ISO1600 and F1.8 and you'll see it.

destfull: WAH very optimistic ah you! I'd say more like 85% of retail price.

ieR: Well the A33/A55 like the NEX-3/NEX-5 and A550 in MF Check LV has a lot lower 'minimum light' fortunately. biggrin.gif

Your example is good! (Though of course, let's say bounce loses 50% then 1/16 going to 1/8 is exactly correct.) In your example, 87.5% would be right to get 1/2 equal in exposure.
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hey guyz, did anyone know where can i get this kind of pop up flash diffuser ?

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 18 2010, 11:31 PM)
Deerc: I said "Handheld Twilight is a lot cleaner than if you set ISO manually."

Which I shall rephrase:

There are two options - you can use:
1) Handheld Twilight
2) set ISO manually

Handheld Twilight is a lot cleaner. Have you noticed? ISO6400 HHT is a lot cleaner than ISO1600 in regular A mode. So what's the big deal? It seems to clean up motion as well.

Oh and of course, Handheld Twilight does not have AF in continuous shooting either!

You can merge the 2 JPGs from 6 EV HDR and use a mask to combine them. I will copy the part of the image with HDR to cover moving people. For example:
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Why is handheld twilight cleaner? is it due to some post processing done in the camera?

btw, is there a step by step guide for combining the HDR and jpgs? photoshop noob here blush.gif
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evilhomura89: Beats me how exactly Sony does Handheld Twilight.

Anyway everyone should read this tutorial - the masking bit is what you need to know, in order to merge HDR with JPG.

http://www.ronbigelow.com/articles/neutral...ral-density.htm

I actually use a sloppier 30% opacity brush to 'color in' moving people.

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 18 2010, 11:52 PM)
evilhomura89: Beats me how exactly Sony does Handheld Twilight.

Anyway everyone should read this tutorial - the masking bit is what you need to know, in order to merge HDR with JPG.

http://www.ronbigelow.com/articles/neutral...ral-density.htm

I actually use a sloppier 30% opacity brush to 'color in' moving people.
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I googled handheld twilight and found out that it works by "fire-off six frames in quick succession and stack them".
I have a feeling that the stacking part is how the noise is removed thus generating a cleaner image.
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bro albnok, thanks for the explanation there, kinda mistaken your phrase. My English is bad.
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d4rkholeang3l: hahaha u confused me with albnok? tongue.gif

albnok: oh, so there is the limit of low light, so, i would say, EVF is good on daylight, as u can review image from the EVF,... but not really good for lowlight uses (compare to OVF) and made thing worst with 1/3 stop(although its not much...)? but i am still interested to see the real thing. hope it reaches miri soon... A550 can see better at night compare to A300 (which i found out) but i hope the A33 evf can detect far more less light wink.gif

hahaha, u should know that i am really really bad with calculation... hence i mention for example, scare later u shoot me again for not getting the right figure sad.gif should have left u do the explanation tongue.gif



evilhumura, well, the stacking algorithm is a programmer thing... which i dont bother, but it as long as it works, its good alhorithm, like how the chinese old saying says, black cat, white cat, as long it catches the mouse, its a good cat.
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A few days ago, I came across the NEX-5H package - the NEX-5 with Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS!

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The FA-EX1S flash extender comes with the NEX-5H package.

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It is meant to extend the flash forward and above the large 18-200mm, like so.

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From the front, not raised (above) and raised (below).

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It does look funny with the Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake...

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The FA-EX1S flash extender has two nubs next to the screw hole. This prevents the ECM-SST1 external microphone (above) and FDA-SV1 optical viewfinder (below) from being mounted on the FA-EX1S.

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Left-to-right: Sony A850 with Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM, Sony NEX-5 with FA-EX1S flash extender and HVL-F7S flash and Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS in its shortest 18mm position with lens hood stored backwards.

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Left-to-right: Sony A850 with Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM, Sony NEX-5 with FA-EX1S flash extender and HVL-F7S flash and Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS in its longest 200mm position with lens hood stored forwards.

So how does the flash extender work?

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Top-left: 18mm without FA-EX1S flash extender; top-right: 200mm without FA-EX1S flash extender; bottom-left: 18mm with FA-EX1S flash extender; bottom-right: 200mm with FA-EX1S flash extender.

If you are going to use the HVL-F7S on the NEX with the Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS, the FA-EX1S flash extender is a must!

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The FDA-SV1 optical viewfinder.

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It matches the field of view of the Sony E 16mm F2.8 pancake only, without the VCL-ECU1 ultra-wide converter or VCL-ECF1 fisheye converter.

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Since there is no way to turn off the NEX-3/NEX-5 LCD screen, you will have to get close to the viewfinder to avoid glare from the screen!

Honestly though, I thought the FDA-SV1 was optically crap. It had massive smearing away from the center, and only if you placed your eye exactly in the middle, with the 3 dashes getting illuminated, then you'd be in perfect alignment. Even then there was parallax error and there is no way to see depth of field in the viewfinder.

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The rare NEX body cap makes an appearance in the NEX-5H package!

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The Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS is Made in China. Nevertheless, it is a very solid lens.

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18mm F3.5 ISO1600 yielded 1/30s with EV +1. Obviously, this is no indoor lens!

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200mm F6.3 ISO3200 1/25s with EV +1. Still a bit too slow for indoors!

Remember that the average camcorder that cannot change lenses has a F1.8 zoom lens even on the telephoto end! So before buying this, make sure you know what you are getting into.

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I also tried the Sony Cybershot WX-5, a proper replacement for the WX-1 (which I have.) F2.4 at 24mm (35mm equivalent) with Exmor-R backlit sensor means it is the low-light champion of the Cybershot series!

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One new feature that it adds is Background Defocus, which takes two shots and blends them.

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This is the same shot in P mode (which chose F2.4).

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It is not perfect though, as you can see it didn't work so well on the wire and the lens on the right.

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What if there are many subjects in the picture? It states that it cannot perform Background Defocus, but takes a picture anyway.

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I tested the A33 with Sony 50mm F1.4, while looking at it from the front. In video, when looking from the front, it appeared to be wide open, but the moment I started recording, it stopped down to F3.5 as expected whenever AF was on. When MF was used, it could record videos at F1.4.

Yes, ISO and menus can be accessed from the viewfinder, exactly as you would from the rear LCD screen.

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This is the optional AC-PW20 AC Adapter (for NEX cameras) dummy battery. The battery cover has a flap just to allow the cable in.

Hmmm the NEX-3/NEX-5 does have this flap! However, interestingly, the NEX-3/NEX-5 can operate just fine with the battery cover open, as I've just tried.

The A560 is delayed to 2011, while the A580 would only come to Malaysia in October 2010 (but if other places are only getting it in November 2010, I can't be too optimistic.)

According to this:

http://www.sony-asia.com/support/resources...pages/Sony.html

The A560/A580, which has contrast detect AF in Focus Check Live View, will not be able to use contrast detect on screw-drive lenses. This limits contrast detect to SAM/SSM lenses. However, you can still use phase detect AF in Quick AF Live View with screw drive lenses.

Also, video is strictly manual focus only on the A560/A580.

In other news:

What the heck man, the Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC in A-mount is 111mm long!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10091610samsyng35mm1p4.asp

Fortunately the MFD is 30cm like all other 35mm F1.4 lenses.

Minolta/Sony 35mm F1.4G - 55mm filter thread, 510 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5x maximum magnification, 76mm long
Canon 35mm F1.4L USM - 72mm filter thread, 580 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5.5x maximum magnification, 86mm long
Nikkor AF-S 35mm F1.4G SWM - 67mm filter thread, 600 grams, 30cm MFD, 1:5x maximum magnification, 89.5mm long
Samyang 35mm F1.4 UMC - 77mm filter thread, weight N/A, 30cm MFD, maximum magnification N/A, 111mm long (Alpha mount)

To give you an idea of how long 111mm is - the Carl Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 SSM is 111mm long, and the Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8 is 115mm long!

Finally, here's a picture from a roadshow:

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The Sigma 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM is starkly a lot higher in price than I expected. sad.gif I was hoping it would be around RM3000 street price, even taking into account that these are retail prices!

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good one albnok!

and what the heck, the 18-200 is huge! (for nex body)

and what the hell, sigma 70200 F2.8 EX DG OS HSM is 8688, this is no way to break into canon or nikon market... this make 70200G best buy F2.8 tele of the year! lol

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@ier, sorry lar.. i mislooked.. haha . paiseh
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albert, the NEX3/5 does have the flap IINM, only now I know the function smile.gif
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The nex 18-200mm lens is well.... shiny... drool.gif

WTH, no sigma 17-70mm f2.8-4 during the fair??? Wanted to know about its retail price hmm.gif
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sepam some pic captured yesterday..... tongue.gif

playing long exposure @ 15sec:
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it looked quite noisy...i off my long exp NR... ohmy.gif

test portrait with my new prime.. cool2.gif
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albnok: you tested that a33 at BTS?

my friend is asking me to wait for a55 instead of getting a33. Too many choices and end up dont know which to pick

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QUOTE(ProX @ Sep 19 2010, 10:53 AM)
albnok: you tested that a33 at BTS?

my friend is asking me to wait for a55 instead of getting a33. Too many choices and end up dont know which to pick
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wait for a55 for 10fps burst shooting, a slightly longer battery life as claimed by Sony, 16.2MP
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battery life is going to be an issue, with all these functions utilizing the burst fps mode. huhu.. not to mention high shutter count!
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 19 2010, 05:14 AM)
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Finally, here's a picture from a roadshow:

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The Sigma 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM is starkly a lot higher in price than I expected. sad.gif I was hoping it would be around RM3000 street price, even taking into account that these are retail prices!
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how come my 150-500 oso sell so high.... is this the street price here?

looking forward to get 1 samyang 35mm f/1.4 into my f/1.4 collection biggrin.gif
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gizmo_pony: I'll be darned, there is a flap for the battery cable! Thanks for pointing it out LOL. I've edited my original posting.

yuhi: Yeah man, that and the 17-50mm F2.8 EX DC OS HSM are notably missing!

ahpingko: Nice colors on #1 but I feel like you could either include more of the faraway buildings, or less of it. Well processed on #2 because the subject pops out (since she is less gray.)

ProX: You can test the A33 at Berjaya Times Square or KLCC or The Curve. The only difference is that the A33 has 7 FPS while the A55 has 10 FPS, built-in GPS and 16.2 megapixels.

cjlai: Waiting for it too! No it's the retail price list.


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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 18 2010, 01:23 AM)
Reasonsofthanatos, did you miss this posting? I called the Alpha product manager to confirm this. The A560 will be delayed but the A580 will be coming soon.

Added on September 18, 2010, 1:32 amfansoption: A55 is coming in October 2010.
Opps..yeah i did missed that out..So it's delayed but not impossible..ok im gonna go for tat..thanks a lot bro for the info! notworthy.gif

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ReasonsofThanatos: something u have to learn, there are many jealous fanboy out there, posting nonsense no source or proof speculation in other forum to mislead or spoil sony reputation. pls dont speculate more false info. thank you.
Yeah..but the news really brought about a big doubt to me, so that's why im seeking d opinions from pros or some1 who actually know what's happening.anyway i got d real info now. thanks! tongue.gif
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hey guys, itchy hands to haul... mau tanya dulu...

anyone here use sony bloggie? How's the performance ar? Is the Full hd 1080p clear?

how's low light performance? I dun wan banyak noise lolz
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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Sep 19 2010, 04:35 PM)
hey guys, itchy hands to haul... mau tanya dulu...

anyone here use sony bloggie? How's the performance ar? Is the Full hd 1080p clear?

how's low light performance? I dun wan banyak noise lolz
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yeap ... very clear!

The A33 has better low ISO performance compare to A550 but other wise it is the same as A550 expect a little more noise compare to A550 ... IMO

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QUOTE(wingster @ Sep 19 2010, 04:40 PM)
yeap ... very clear!

The A33 has better low ISO performance compare to A550 but other wise it is the same as A550 expect a little more noise compare to A550 ... IMO
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seriously?... =.=
I see the test on youtube..macam not good...

i am pretty concerned bout the low light performance..
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A33 is out? zomg.
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A33 is out? zomg.
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Yea is already out ...

Well some of my thoughts

Overall the EVF looks fantastic enough compare to Pana G2 and Samsung NX-10 .... well it looks like the cinema screen projector, is full frame size but unlike FF A850,A900 or even the ordinary DSLR, the screen was like a big square instead of rectangle but the actual image projectile is in normal rectangle shape which is why it state as 1.4 MP LCD but only 1.1 MP LCD effective pixels on the EVF. As jedimaster said, the EVF has some jagged + blur when you panning too fast but in normal pan just work as fine as the OVF. Of course color and resolution won't able to beat through OVF but able to view playback, menu or almost anything on the camera is a huge plus! the most I love is you can Manual Live View check using EVF by x7/x14 magnification by pressing the trash button (delete button) (imagine a 18-55 kit lens at 55mm x 14 magnify with good resolution brows.gif) which is why they throw away the Tele converter system xD

The EVF resolution actually is on par with Panasonic G2 I have to say but quality and the lag time and EVF sharpness is much better than Panasonic G2 a lots

I have tested the SSS for the lenses and is proven that now they can have stabilize effect when you viewing through LV or EVF by half-press the shutter unlike its previous predecessor which not able to stabilize the vision by half-pressing the shutter. So now you no need to worry to felt the earthquake on giant 70-200G or 70-300G and etc giant lenses which is a bonus.

Well about the Live View only 3FPS prove me wrong .... (as I refer to D Preview which they didn't properly test it?) it works on 3fps, 6fps and even the 7fps (10 fps for A55) on both EVF and Live View which is awesome by the way ...

and about the memory writing is the only issue I encounter ... for A33 ... no matter what fps you are it will takes a long time to write the memory buff
I used my Sony Memory Stick Mark 2 for burst shot (in 7fps,6fps,3fps) on 7 frame on RAW(maximum buffer for A33 while A55 is around 19 frames for 10fps on RAW) it takes me 25 seconds to write 7 frames of RAW file .... and during the time the camera doesn't able to burst but still able to take the picture slowly ...

second thing is the overheat issue ... A33/A55 can be easily to overheat compare to NEX-3/NEX-5 when you record movie. Well despite overheat problem only happens when you often activate SSS during video recording, I have test shooting A33 for an hour in SSS turn on and then I try cooldown a minute and use it with photo + movie in SSS on, it takes less than 15 minute to go overheat even I'm only record video in break by break (20 seconds video follow by 1~3 minutes of photo shooting)

So for video shooting is highly recommended to turn off the SSS if you prefer to having long time shooting because it will effects on photo shooting as well after you recording for a long time and cause the camera nonfunctional for a few minutes (which can be a disaster some how)

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So i can get it from street shops? any recommendation? i wanted to buy canon 550d today but suddenly saw A33. Very tempted!

p/s: How much is 50mm 1.8 prime lense for alpha? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(finch! @ Sep 19 2010, 04:59 PM)
So i can get it from street shops? any recommendation? i wanted to buy canon 550d today but suddenly saw A33. Very tempted!

p/s: How much is 50mm 1.8 prime lense for alpha? laugh.gif
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so far only available at Sony Style ... which retail price at RM2399 for A33 kit lens so would assume street price be much lower
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QUOTE(wingster @ Sep 19 2010, 05:01 PM)
so far only available at Sony Style ... which retail price at RM2399 for A33 kit lens so would assume street price be much lower
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oh alright. i guess i will wait for it to be out on the street smile.gif

thanks man.

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wa 4 days not here already new thread and sooo much information to absorb biggrin.gif .

got the chance to test the tokina UWA f2.8, and i must say its very impressive. brows.gif

QUOTE(shukrie @ Sep 17 2010, 02:47 AM)
ada sapa2 sudah angkat a33 / a55 ?

sepam!

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QUOTE(RazorVista @ Sep 17 2010, 12:32 PM)
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where got? sony gave me free service and cleaning leh! tongue.gif

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Sorry for the amateur review quality and lonnngggg post. Hope you guys can make more sense of it than I did.  notworthy.gif
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wa 4 days not here already new thread and sooo much information to absorb  biggrin.gif .

got the chance to test the tokina UWA f2.8, and i must say its very impressive.  brows.gif
fuyohhh...niceeee~
where got? sony gave me free service and cleaning leh!  tongue.gif
VERY NICE REVIEW! thanks~ will try it when i have the chance
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QUOTE(wingster @ Sep 19 2010, 05:44 PM)
Any sample shot of the tokky UWA xD?
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QUOTE(finch! @ Sep 19 2010, 04:59 PM)
So i can get it from street shops? any recommendation? i wanted to buy canon 550d today but suddenly saw A33. Very tempted!

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seriously?... =.=
I see the test on youtube..macam not good...

i am pretty concerned bout the low light performance..
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Nex owners, I love everything about the Nex, tested it and everything. But there's something that still bugs me, some reviews claim that the Nex has slight softness to its image quality, is this true? How is the IQ when compared to dSLRs?
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QUOTE(mowkey @ Sep 19 2010, 08:24 PM)
Nex owners, I love everything about the Nex, tested it and everything. But there's something that still bugs me, some reviews claim that the Nex has slight softness to its image quality, is this true? How is the IQ when compared to dSLRs?
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yes its true.

the IQ is certainly not on par with the Carl Zeiss and L lens and Nikkors out there. but compared with other compacts and m43rds, it has one of the best IQ.
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I have tested a33 at BTS today and found out the IQ is not that sharp (picture viewed via LCD). My best guess is my photography skill s*ck.

Note - Picture taken under "Auto" mode.
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QUOTE(ProX @ Sep 19 2010, 08:53 PM)
I have tested a33 at BTS today and found out the IQ is not that sharp (picture viewed via LCD). My best guess is my photography skill s*ck.

Note - Picture taken under "Auto" mode.
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I also tested the a33 today, at the Curve. I was actually surprised at the image quality. Zoomed in, I found the sharpness to be decent (for a kitlens, at least). I used Aperture Priority btw. I liked the EVF, but I think I preferred composing using the LCD, perhaps because it's larger. And I managed to get all my 3 fingers on the grip thumbup.gif Wonder how much the street price will be.

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mowkey, so you are saying the IQ is sharp? I wonder what went wrong when i tried it out.

Personally, I like the EVF. Nice.
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I would say so yes, and based on my epxerience with sony, that is what I expect. But I cannot say for sure, because I didn't take any image sample home.
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wingster: Wah you tested it for 1 hour or you bought it? biggrin.gif

mowkey: Not true. Any lens that is good on my A900 is good on the NEX-5 as well. Not softer at all. The 16mm F2.8 is sharp in the center also but misfocusing may make some people think it is soft.

zstan: How do you know this? And what are you presuming mowkey is referring to - the NEX lenses or the A-mount lenses on the APS-HD sensor?
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Albnok: Thanks! That is what I needed to know.

I did not say which lenses on the Nex, my question is, by default, is the Nex generally less sharp than SLRs in the range of a33, a550 etc.

If I do get it, I plan to pair with Minolta primes, with the adapter of course.

Do you mind posting one or two portrait and street shot from the Nex to convince me? smile.gif

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 19 2010, 09:44 PM)
wingster: Wah you tested it for 1 hour or you bought it? biggrin.gif

mowkey: Not true. Any lens that is good on my A900 is good on the NEX-5 as well. Not softer at all. The 16mm F2.8 is sharp in the center also but misfocusing may make some people think it is soft.

zstan: How do you know this? And what are you presuming mowkey is referring to - the NEX lenses or the A-mount lenses on the APS-HD sensor?
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haha..

Just test the ISO and Movie mode ... as I'm waiting for A55 instead of A33 ...

By the way here's some RAW and Multi NR comparisons using A33 camera edited using Adobe RAW:
(All image are cropped at 100% resolution although the size is a little different because using picasa 3 to crop it xD_

RAW With NO Noise Reduction -

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changed my mind....prefer this style for portrait...my 1st ever portrait shooting with my model = my dear.... tongue.gif

comment abit..so that i can improve... icon_idea.gif

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mowkey, the sensor in nex, is better then A550. period. noise and color profile is better. the rest of the sharpness and photo IQ relies on what lens u going to pair it with. if u pair it with a good prime, i believe it will bring out scary IQ out of it.

i played with nex not much, but sample i gotten, is far better then my A550. so u can rest assure that, Nex is not as bad as ppl reviewed or says.


Added on September 19, 2010, 10:36 pmwingster, reduce with adobe raw? got sony IDC version? (or did u try shoot jpeg+raw, in body jpeg NR?)

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ahpingko, i like photo #4 of your dear. Very nicely done.

SPAM! Shot some photos of the Sony XPLOD demo car, a Subaru Impreza. Here is the behind the scene of the photoshoot session:

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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 19 2010, 10:34 PM)
mowkey, the sensor in nex, is better then A550. period. noise and color profile is better. the rest of the sharpness and photo IQ relies on what lens u going to pair it with. if u pair it with a good prime, i believe it will bring out scary IQ out of it.

i played with nex not much, but sample i gotten, is far better then my A550. so u can rest assure that, Nex is not as bad as ppl reviewed or says.


Added on September 19, 2010, 10:36 pmwingster, reduce with adobe raw? got sony IDC version? (or did u try shoot jpeg+raw, in body jpeg NR?)
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Err yeah ... I only use Adobe Photoshop RAW

-NO NR means all the Color and Luminance at Noise Reduction I set at '0'

-While heavy NR I set 50 for both Color and Luminance at Noise Reduction

And those picture above are export from RAW

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Here's the JPEG with Multi NR

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and i'm back, people~!!!

all shots taken handheld, some reaching into regions of 1-2 seconds

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p/s: ahpingko good job on #4

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and i'm back, people~!!!

all shots taken handheld, some reaching into regions of 1-2 seconds

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p/s: ahpingko good job on #4
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Let's see if you all can figure out which lens is used in which sequence for this video!

http://vimeo.com/groups/alpha/videos/14826647

mowkey: Here's one from the NEX-5 with the LA-EA1 lens adapter and Opteka 85mm F1.4 at F1.4:

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Here's one from the NEX-5 with the Coyo Nikon G adapter and Sigma 30mm F1.4 DC HSM for F-mount at F1.4 (I think my colleague Ijan shot this, though):

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More street shots posted here:
http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1437

ahpingko: I like the mood in #5, and is #3 a color version of the earlier black-and-white?

lwliam: Nice #1 and interesting play on angle in #2.
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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 19 2010, 10:37 PM)
ahpingko, i like photo #4 of your dear. Very nicely done.

thx thx...1st time doing portraits... tongue.gif

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ahpingko: I like the mood in #5, and is #3 a color version of the earlier black-and-white?
yaya...the color version.... rclxms.gif
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an in-depth review of a33 - http://www.alphamountworld.com/reviews/son...orld?page=0%2C0

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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 19 2010, 09:44 PM)
wingster: Wah you tested it for 1 hour or you bought it? biggrin.gif

mowkey: Not true. Any lens that is good on my A900 is good on the NEX-5 as well. Not softer at all. The 16mm F2.8 is sharp in the center also but misfocusing may make some people think it is soft.

zstan: How do you know this? And what are you presuming mowkey is referring to - the NEX lenses or the A-mount lenses on the APS-HD sensor?
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ahpingko : Loved your 5th pic! I think it stands out among the rest. Just my preference though tongue.gif Next time try portraiture with wireless flash =D Lucky you, I don't have a model to try it cry.gif

Zeiss poison by kysham :/

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 19 2010, 10:31 PM)
changed my mind....prefer this style for portrait...my 1st ever portrait shooting with my model = my dear.... tongue.gif

comment abit..so that i can improve... icon_idea.gif

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good try!

though i am not a fan of too much PP. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yuhi @ Sep 19 2010, 11:24 PM)
ahpingko : Loved your 5th pic! I think it stands out among the rest. Just my preference though  tongue.gif  Next time try portraiture with wireless flash =D Lucky you, I don't have a model to try it  cry.gif

Zeiss poison by kysham :/
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 19 2010, 11:26 PM)
good try!

though i am not a fan of too much PP.  biggrin.gif
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haha...coz i feel the colors of original pic does not suit the feel..so play with colors lo... tongue.gif

spam 1 more...

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and this hanging bridge..

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ok...goodnite guys... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 19 2010, 11:49 PM)
and this hanging bridge..

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ok...goodnite guys... laugh.gif
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and i'm back, people~!!!

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I like the 2nd photos! nice.. Sharp! I still donno what is the proper way to play HDR.. The 1st one is nice too.. but I cant help to notice the noise on the sky.. tongue.gif


QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 19 2010, 11:15 PM)
cannot lose to lwliam.  tongue.gif

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Ztan: you sure have a hell steady hand!! 6 seconds! it look sharp!
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I like the 2nd photos! nice.. Sharp! I still donno what is the proper way to play HDR.. The 1st one is nice too.. but I cant help to notice the noise on the sky.. tongue.gif
Ztan: you sure have a hell steady hand!! 6 seconds! it look sharp!
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oooo thats damn good luck lo...... very nice shots....william love your tokong shots
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haha. about half of my camera not touching the wall.

use 2 hands to hold the camera. and my forehead to press against the camera body. and asked my sis to fire the shutter remotely.

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 20 2010, 12:10 AM)
I like the 2nd photos! nice.. Sharp! I still donno what is the proper way to play HDR.. The 1st one is nice too.. but I cant help to notice the noise on the sky.. tongue.gif
Ztan: you sure have a hell steady hand!! 6 seconds! it look sharp!
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yalo williamm, looks like u ps the noise into the sky......
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ok this was the original shot..before cropping out the wall...

as you can see the bottom left in the part i was resting my camera on..

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no, did not PP the noise in... it could be due to DRO level 2 that i used...

if u notice the darker areas, its very smooth, only at the clouds' highlights, the noise popped out..
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Sharing some photo I took at Universal Studio Singapore.. The "model" is my Sister hoho. There is some quite intensive processing done... tongue.gif


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This me! My sister take turn to shoot me with everything properly set for her tongue.gif
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clive.... awesome wehhhh..... aku suka all...
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Okay, so I broke my resolution to buy only one A-mount lens this year. Technically, this is the only A-mount lens I have bought this year, but I originally intended to buy another lens.

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This is the Minolta 24-50mm F4 Original! What does it mean by Original?

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These are the original Minolta AF lenses. From left to right: Minolta 24-50mm F4, Minolta 50mm F1.4, Minolta 70-210mm F4 beercan.

They all look alike, with diagonal ribbed zoom rings, and tiny ribbed focus rings.

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Left to right: Vivitar 24mm F2.0 OM mount (modded to A-mount), Minolta 24-50mm F4 Original, Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D).

If you notice, the later Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D) has a new styling, with a thicker focus ring and different zoom ring rubber design. The Minolta 24-50mm F4 Original was an external, extending focusing design while the Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D) was an internal focusing design.

The Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D) also has a focus clutch, and a very geary manual focus action of which I am not fond of.

You might ask, why have two lenses in a redundant focal range? Simply - the Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D) had a minimum focusing distance of 50cm, while the Minolta 24-50mm F4 Original had a minimum focusing distance of 35cm. This was the shortest MFD of any Minolta standard zoom at that time!

The Carl Zeiss 24-70mm F2.8 SSM focuses to 34cm close, just 1cm better. The Konica Minolta 28-75mm F2.8 beat that at 33cm.

Everything else back then, like the Minolta 20-35mm F3.5-4.5, 24-85mm F3.5-4.5, 28-85mm F3.5-4.5, 28-105mm F3.5-4.5, 35-70mm F3.5-4.5, 28-135mm F4-4.5, 35-70mm F4, 35-105mm F3.5-4.5 - none of them focused to anything closer than 50cm (and the 28-135mm was a 150cm distant champion.) Some of them had a Macro switch which allowed them to focus closer, but in manual focus only! (I did not count the F3.5-5.6 zoom lenses because I was not looking for darker aperture lenses. I also did not consider F2.8 zooms because of the size and weight.)

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My first outdoor shot with the 24-50mm on the A900! The vignetting is pretty spectacular, and an effect I'd like to leave in. The classic Minolta color is all there in all its glory.

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35cm is showing its benefits.

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24mm F10.

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Another 24mm F4.0 close range shot.

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This lens supposedly has better bokeh than the Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D). I am just seeing a fair bit of barrel distortion, which always happens on the wide end of a zoom especially at close focus.

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50mm F4, at MFD, giving a maximum magnification of 1:5.55x. While the Minolta 24-105mm F3.5-4.5(D) does slightly better, at 1:5.49x maximum magnification, I I would rather have the close focus capability at 24mm, than the magnification at 105mm. The 24-50mm is already very versatile when shooting at close range, like stuff on your table, or food on your plate - I don't have to lean back excessively in order to focus anymore!

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The lens has a decent amount of contrast, but not too much to kill it for the sensor. Then again, the A900 has always had excellent dynamic range.

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And here's a street shot.

Oh and of course, the shots of the Sony SLT-A33 and Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS were all taken with this lens!

ahpingko, love the bridge shot!

clivengu: Nice one on #1 #2 and #4! Somehow I think the Tokina 11-16mm really inspires you.
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albnok always post lots of stuff during 2-3am when ppl are asleep lol
btw, i like your "24mm F4.0 close range shot"
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ahpingko: nice bridge shot...

clivengu: if #4 didnt cut off her legs. It would have been a superb shot, but i like it anyway. Cun! Model also cun. icon_rolleyes.gif

albnok: 35cm MFD is sweet!

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 20 2010, 01:07 AM)
clive.... awesome wehhhh..... aku suka all...
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 20 2010, 01:46 AM)
clivengu: Nice one on #1 #2 and #4! Somehow I think the Tokina 11-16mm really inspires you.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Sep 20 2010, 02:50 AM)
clivengu: if #4 didnt cut off her legs. It would have been a superb shot, but i like it anyway. Cun! Model also cun. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Haha. But i really like the mood of the photo. smile.gif
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Sharing some photo I took at Universal Studio Singapore.. The "model" is my Sister hoho. There is some quite intensive processing done... tongue.gif
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nice nice. cute sister too. tongue.gif


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Oh and of course, the shots of the Sony SLT-A33 and Sony E 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 Active OSS were all taken with this lens!

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wow..the colours are still very nice even when viewing on my cheap CRT monitor.. notworthy.gif
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for some reason this hanging bridge looks familiar....is it in Kuala Selangor?
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 20 2010, 01:46 AM)

ahpingko, love the bridge shot!
thx man...how about my portraiture??...1st time doing it..give some constructive comments?..i wish to improve faster.. tongue.gif

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ahpingko: nice bridge shot...
thx.. rclxms.gif
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evilhomura89: That's when I have cleared the stuff to reply to. sad.gif

zstan: CRT monitors are still the best to view on - they're not overcranked on gamma brightness.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 20 2010, 09:37 AM)
evilhomura89: That's when I have cleared the stuff to reply to. sad.gif

zstan: CRT monitors are still the best to view on - they're not overcranked on gamma brightness.
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spam sumore..lol...my not so pro portraits..

just learning~

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ahpinko, shot using 50mm?? eh how's teh weifeng and how much u bought it??
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ahpinko, shot using 50mm?? eh how's teh weifeng and how much u bought it??
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ooo sounds good, let me go hunt hunt n surve sumore...... 50mm good haul...saw u getting sp90 soon ehaheaheahea..
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Sep 20 2010, 11:35 AM)
ooo sounds good, let me go hunt hunt n surve sumore...... 50mm good haul...saw u getting sp90 soon ehaheaheahea..
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faster buy lo... biggrin.gif

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US $24.95 = MYR 77.394819 for a year..

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happy birthday porkchop and ahpingko if your birthdays as stated are true! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 12:24 PM)
happy birthday porkchop and ahpingko if your birthdays as stated are true! biggrin.gif

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thx thx..porkchop just updated his DOB??..lol..just now dun have that tag 1... blink.gif ..we having same bday?..lulz
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Happy Birthday Ahpingko!

(btw, ur portrait shoot are good, but just that i am not fond with the editing, too much)


porkchop, Happy Birthday to you too!
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Happy birthday to Ahpingko & porkchop too....
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Happy Birthday Ahpingko !! [:

I have a weird question, regards that it is workable to Quick AF Burst on 6FPS and 7FPS on A33(10FPS on A55)

Why some of the review says they are ONLY ALLOW to burst at 3 FPS under Live View and no one mention it can do more faster FPS option.

I was really curious about it .....

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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 20 2010, 12:55 PM)
Happy Birthday Ahpingko!

(btw, ur portrait shoot are good, but just that i am not fond with the editing, too much)
porkchop, Happy Birthday to you too!
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QUOTE(SoulPower @ Sep 20 2010, 01:00 PM)
Happy birthday to Ahpingko & porkchop smile.gif
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Happy birthday to Ahpingko & porkchop too....
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Happy Birthday Ahpingko !! [:

I have a weird question, regards that it is workable to Quick AF Burst on 6FPS and 7FPS on A33(10FPS on A55)

Why some of the review says they are ONLY ALLOW to burst at 3 FPS under Live View and no one mention it can do more faster FPS option.

I was really curious about it .....
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any thoughts about the Fujifilm X100?
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not sure how will the lense stack up
lenses aren't really their strong point
btw, is the sensor a sony sensor?
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QUOTE(electron @ Sep 20 2010, 01:59 PM)
not sure how will the lense stack up
lenses aren't really their strong point
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nope..its a compact but using a APS-C sensor with a fixed 23mm lens..so there isn't an interchangeable lens system..

the design is somewhat similar to a Leica but i don't know how much will it be priced.

i think they are using their own Fuji sensor.

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i like the hybrid viewfinder...on fuji x100
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hey anyone know the nex-3 the package with two lenses the 16mm + 18-55mm outside store selling roughly how much ?

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i think now no more selling the twin package liao...

based on 1st page should be RM22XX...
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i think now no more selling the twin package liao...

based on 1st page should be RM22XX...
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har no more already ah ? only sony store have it ? sad.gif
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yes i think so. biggrin.gif
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yes i think so. biggrin.gif
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Based on the review by AlphaMountWorld...my excitement towards a33/55 has been slightly dampen and i've been thinking if this is not the one, which one is? Or the reviewer is just too harsh? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 20 2010, 04:48 PM)
Based on the review by AlphaMountWorld...my excitement towards a33/55 has been slightly dampen and i've been thinking if this is not the one, which one is? Or the reviewer is just too harsh? hmm.gif

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after reading CONS, i feel my a550 also not that bad...i love my a550... biggrin.gif

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Photo SPAM! What we did last weekend.... tongue.gif

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zstan, he is setting up the wireless flash for us.

ahpingko, thanks.
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 20 2010, 04:48 PM)
Based on the review by AlphaMountWorld...my excitement towards a33/55 has been slightly dampen and i've been thinking if this is not the one, which one is? Or the reviewer is just too harsh? hmm.gif

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Well, it basically boils down to what you want in this ever-changing digital imaging arena. Traditional DSLR offers still picture captures that is still second to none in this DSLR/EVIL/DSLT arena. If you want pro level still pic output, the pro level DSLRs are still the machines to turn to.

EVIL cams gives you portability and small sizes. Focuses more on being a fun gadget rather than serious photography. Video and other features for a fun outing but never really touching the pro levels.

DSLTs are the prototypes and the new experimental gadgets. Can they really find a bridge between the EVILs and the traditional DSLR? Can they really make it work and give you the best of both worlds? Will the consumers accept this new thing? All remains to be seen but it's here.

So what's it gonna be? biggrin.gif


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shootkk - now you are adding more confusion to the already confused people like me.. haha
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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 20 2010, 04:55 PM)
zstan, he is setting up the wireless flash for us.

ahpingko, thanks.
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QUOTE(ProX @ Sep 20 2010, 05:06 PM)
shootkk - now you are adding more confusion to the already confused people like me.. haha
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 20 2010, 04:53 PM)
after reading CONS, i feel my a550 also not that bad...i love my a550... biggrin.gif
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kysham is sifula....very nice shot + ps skill...need to tag with u more la
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zstan, here is another one for you. smile.gif

The output:

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eh, porkchop, dun say like that lah. what i know i share lah. me not sifu..... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 20 2010, 05:15 PM)
zstan, here is another one for you. smile.gif

The output:

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eh, porkchop, dun say like that lah. what i know i share lah. me not sifu.....  sweat.gif
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wondering will the pic looks better if the headlights were turned on a bit? hmm.gif
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ProX : Just so you all know that those 3 thingy may have the label camera on them and they use DSLR sized sensors but they are designed for different markets.

When you start lumping still pictures and video together you're bound to only be able to do one of them rather decently while the other is not really up to par.

They have different gadget for photos and videos for a reason you know. You don't see high end video cameras incorporating still pictures taking functions like a DSLR now do you?

The majority of the consumers do know really know what they want and most want all-in-one but you can never have a perfect all-in-one gadget.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 05:17 PM)
wa nice~ rclxms.gif

wondering will the pic looks better if the headlights were turned on a bit?  hmm.gif
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They probably will look nice, but we didn't do it.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(kysham @ Sep 20 2010, 05:21 PM)
They probably will look nice, but we didn't do it....  doh.gif
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yeah..from your settings and what i see from my cheap CRT monitor..you purposely want to underexpose the background but try to to illuminate the car right? hmm.gif

turning on the headlights would create a much better effect in my noob opinion as it will greatly emphasise the car with the additional glow. blush.gif

can try turning the wheels to the extreme left would also look nice.. blush.gif
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evilhomura89: there is a lot of time, and reviews (even canon and nikon body review) when writing pros and cons, the writer sometimes seem to have nothing else to write about the cons, they start finding micro faults or (very)personal opinion to write.

pros, good WL ability, then con, lack of flash control? what does it means? (i am pretty sure he is trying to compare with D90/7000 in body commander mode).

* No in camera editing for still or video at all
* No art filters or fun effects

i LOL at this, even they have it, i doubt i ever will use it either. will you? and so on, time to time, u have to learn to read the cons, or even the pros (which sometimes misleads) and filter/understand the whole picture of the camera wink.gif


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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 05:27 PM)
yeah..from your settings and what i see from my cheap CRT monitor..you purposely want to underexpose the background but try to to illuminate the car right?  hmm.gif

turning on the headlights would create a much better effect in my noob opinion as it will greatly emphasise the car with the additional glow.  blush.gif

can try turning the wheels to the extreme left would also look nice.. blush.gif
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 20 2010, 05:12 PM)
yea...after reading the cons, i would love to see how is the performance of a580  rclxms.gif
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The cons doesn't bother if you're more intend to still photos instead of DSLR Cinematography or serious sports Photography

The IQ is almost the same as A550 and I didn't notice the big difference

What I really know the CON's for A33/A55 is the battery life is short, limited control on maximum burst speed and video and also some overheating issue if you use Movie Mode during SSS ON often.

For size whether you like small or big camera, if you want big camera go for A550/A560/A580, if you want smaller and lighter camera without concern about the battery grip add ons just head for A33/A55

Anyway things will end up a final decision when you touch and try the camera and compare, only from there you will know the difference and whats the camera you like.

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eh..wingster..u are using a550 ?..and phottix battery grip for a550?..if i only got 1 battery, and i want to use the phottix battery grip, can rite?...coz zaloon tell me must use 2 battery..
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 20 2010, 05:58 PM)
eh..wingster..u are using a550 ?..and phottix battery grip for a550?..if i only got 1 battery, and i want to use the phottix battery grip, can rite?...coz zaloon tell me must use 2 battery..
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Yes you can use with 1 battery but you need to put the battery at slot 2 (BATTERY 2) from the battery magazine, the A550 Phottix Battery Grip also works on A200,A300,A350 as well

However unlike original one the battery will consume both (If you insert both 2 battery) battery consumption
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QUOTE(wingster @ Sep 20 2010, 06:01 PM)
Yes you can use with 1 battery but you need to put the battery at slot 2 (BATTERY 2) from the battery magazine, the A550 Phottix Battery Grip also works on A200,A300,A350 as well

However unlike original one the battery will consume both (If you insert both 2 battery) battery consumption
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har, u mean same battery grip works on A200,A300,A350??..really?.. blink.gif

coz i m tinking to buy phottix grip..but got ppl recommend me meike.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 20 2010, 06:02 PM)
har, u mean same battery grip works on A200,A300,A350??..really?.. blink.gif

coz i m tinking to buy phottix grip..but got ppl recommend me meike.. doh.gif
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Yeah I have try before both works perfectly xD
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Yeah I have try before both works perfectly xD
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how about its build?...nice grip?...color got fade out ??
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 20 2010, 06:05 PM)
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how about its build?...nice grip?...color got fade out ??
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Grip is okay for me: feels good but compare to original the grip is more rough I said but again you get what you paid. In terms of durability, so far I used for almost 8 months and it never stripped off or what so ever just the button icon will be slightly fade off after you use it for a very long term
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QUOTE(wingster @ Sep 20 2010, 06:09 PM)
Grip is okay for me: feels good but compare to original the grip is more rough I said but again you get what you paid. In terms of durability, so far I used for almost 8 months and it never stripped off or what so ever just the button icon will be slightly fade off after you use it for a very long term
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oh...then is nice already....ori 1 far too exp.... rclxms.gif how much u bought it?..and from where?
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i llike my photix a55 0grip. although plasticky it still does it work..also plastic = lighter, but i would not recmmend against hard usage (i.e knocks/ etc0

kysham, i like your car shot...just plain use flash ot got use the soft box for flash or flash stand thingy??
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Sep 20 2010, 06:12 PM)
i llike my photix a55 0grip. although plasticky it still does it work..also plastic = lighter, but i would not recmmend against hard usage (i.e knocks/ etc0

kysham, i like your car shot...just plain use flash ot got use the soft box for flash or flash stand thingy??
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Yeah it is quite fragile look by the way xD but it makes the A550 feels very good to hold especially when you mount it with primes IMO [:

and yeah forgot to say Happy Birthday mate >__< !!

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ahpingko & porkchop : HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND HAPPY HAULING!

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Thanks for the useful replies. I guess I'll have to visit SonyStyle to play with it.
All I wanted to get is my first DSLR that I won't regret and won't be upgrading for the next few years (5 years at least i think). Without sufficient experiences, choosing the right one can be quite hard for me as I'm not exactly sure of what I want and need.
I can't deny that the a33/55 is way to attractive with it's innovative features and not to mention that Sony did invest alot in marketing for this line. Being able to hit 7/10fps is a plus since the SLTs are similar to other DSLRs in terms of taking nice portraits and macro shots by using the right lens. In terms of IQ, i think most of the DSLRs out there are on par under good light condition and Sony EXMOR sensor proved to be quite good under low light condition with high ISO + low noise.

I have friends who are mainly N and C users thus the chances of them trying to pull me over to the N/C ship is quite high thus asking them would be useless. For some reason, I think there's a Sony fanboy in me. blush.gif

All i know for sure at the moment is either sacrifice battery life for smaller light body or vice versa.

Based on the cons, i don't understand the following
* Way too many warnings, lockouts, and restrictions on too many of the A33's features - What kinds of restriction?
* Limited flash control Isn't there like "Auto, On, Off, Red-Eye, Slow Sync, High Speed Sync, Rear Curtain, Fill-in, Wireless"?
* Very limited customization in the menu system, no room for the learning and growing photographer to expand I don't get this at all
* No spot toggle for AEL err??
* Focus Magnifier could have been designed better (shuts off when you half press the shutter, difficult to use at times) Don't understand either
* Manual doesn't have enough details details like??


Added on September 20, 2010, 6:40 pmbtw, ahpingko & porkchop, happy birthday!!
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Thanks for the useful replies. I guess I'll have to visit SonyStyle to play with it.
All I wanted to get is my first DSLR that I won't regret and won't be upgrading for the next few years (5 years at least i think). Without sufficient experiences, choosing the right one can be quite hard for me as I'm not exactly sure of what I want and need.
I can't deny that the a33/55 is way to attractive with it's innovative features and not to mention that Sony did invest alot in marketing for this line. Being able to hit 7/10fps is a plus since the SLTs are similar to other DSLRs in terms of taking nice portraits and macro shots by using the right lens. In terms of IQ, i think most of the DSLRs out there are on par under good light condition and Sony EXMOR sensor proved to be quite good under low light condition with high ISO + low noise.

I have friends who are mainly N and C users thus the chances of them trying to pull me over to the N/C ship is quite high thus asking them would be useless. For some reason, I think there's a Sony fanboy in me.  blush.gif

All i know for sure at the moment is either sacrifice battery life for smaller light body or vice versa.

Based on the cons, i don't understand the following
* Way too many warnings, lockouts, and restrictions on too many of the A33's features - What kinds of restriction?
* Limited flash control Isn't there like "Auto, On, Off, Red-Eye, Slow Sync, High Speed Sync, Rear Curtain, Fill-in, Wireless"?
* Very limited customization in the menu system, no room for the learning and growing photographer to expand I don't get this at all
* No spot toggle for AEL err??
* Focus Magnifier could have been designed better (shuts off when you half press the shutter, difficult to use at times) Don't understand either
* Manual doesn't have enough details details like??


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i. restriction like, iso cant be set in panasweep mode (when u press iso button in panasweep mode)... lol, on other brand, when u meet restriction, they just keep quiet, a way to avoid confrontation. i wish sony can give a selection to turn off the help/warning... so when we press the iso button, it just ignore us... we human automatic knows, that button dont work. LOL.

ii. that is the thing, first it say, got good WL function, then say limited, WTF. what the hell he talking about? i bet is he comparing with nikon D90/7000 inbody commander mode.

iii. well, like nikon, they can customise their Fn button or extra button laying around for special function. DOF preview, pre flash test etc etc.

iv. well, he is, again, comparing a rm2499rrp camera with a rm4xxxrrp camera.

v. this is an issue that i understand, i rate it as firmware issue that can be fix. let wait for new firmware.

vi. that why i say, some reviewer are like that, future more, this guy who wrote this, had a big issue with sony last time, now he is still resent sony... sad.gif
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IMO...i will buy the camera which feels more comfortable in my own hands..the extra features are of course bonuses..

camera bodies keep getting better every 6 months..you really can't keep with the pace in technology..especially if you are a sony user..first NEX series then now SLT..i wonder how many more revolutions can they produce...? laugh.gif

when i got my dinosaur..iso 800 was all the hype..2 years fast forward, now if your camera no iso 6400 cannot sell at all.

on the hand... you don't get high quality lenses every 6 months...or sometimes maybe 1 or 2 new really good lenses once a year...hence, i think, its better to get better lenses rather than keep waiting for better camera bodies.
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shootkk - Understand you rmeaning but i am into taking still photo more than video (at least for now). I still need to do a lot of reading and get myself DSLR. For now, a55 is my choice.

zstan - my budget is around ~3k only. a900 is totally out of budget

my friend is asking me to get Nikon so we can share accessories. Guess my dilemma will fade away after i have gotten myself one DSLR. Now still can play around with choices.
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shootkk - Understand you rmeaning but i am into taking still photo more than video (at least for now). I still need to do a lot of reading and get myself DSLR. For now, a55 is my choice.

zstan - my budget is around ~3k only. a900 is totally out of budget

my friend is asking me to get Nikon so we can share accessories. Guess my dilemma will fade away after i have gotten myself one DSLR. Now still can play around with choices.
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will you borrow your friend your car all the time if you have one? laugh.gif
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no sifu la. sweat.gif ..i still dunno anything about wireless flash...  blush.gif
IMO...i will buy the camera which feels more comfortable in my own hands..the extra features are of course bonuses..

camera bodies keep getting better every 6 months..you really can't keep with the pace in technology..especially if you are a sony user..first NEX series then now SLT..i wonder how many more revolutions can they produce...? laugh.gif

when i got my dinosaur..iso 800 was all the hype..2 years fast forward, now if your camera no iso 6400 cannot sell at all.

on the hand... you don't get high quality lenses every 6 months...or sometimes maybe 1 or 2 new really good lenses once a year...hence, i think, its better to get better lenses rather than keep waiting for better camera bodies.
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agreed!
that's why I wanted to get something that i will hold on to it for at least 5 years if possible

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eh, porkchop, dun say like that lah. what i know i share lah. me not sifu.....  sweat.gif
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agreed!
that's why I wanted to get something that i will hold on to it for at least 5 years if possible
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technically..any camera can last you for more than 5 years if you took good care of it..

as long as it still takes pictures.. biggrin.gif
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zstan: Secret!

ahpingko: I feel like if the vignetting was not there #1 and #2 would obviously have so-so framing. Would prefer #4 from straight on.

Happy birthday!

porkchop: Happy birthday!

wingster: The A33 does 7 FPS (Speed Priority), 6 FPS (Continuous High) and 2.5 FPS (Continuous Low); the A55V does 10 FPS (Speed Priority), 6 FPS (Continuous High) and 3 FPS (Continuous Low). Refer to page 116 of the A33/A55V manual. biggrin.gif

I don't think people care for the Continuous High or Continuous Low options enough to write about them. biggrin.gif

Also... do you think the A560/A580 will not have the overheating with SteadyShot in video? A lot of the cons in the A33/A55 apply to the A560/A580 also... people just forget to imply them.

deanmalenko: Okay lah can be cleaner, a slightly faster shutter speed would help.

evilhomura89: You might not care for most of the things he puts in his cons - I know I don't!

You don't even see the problems he does. Carl Gerrard is a very old school photographer. Some people fuss about 2 Second MLU while we don't care. There is no mirror slap on the A33/A55 so MLU does not matter.

Restrictions are what you get when you first play with the A550 and NEX bodies - you cannot use Auto HDR with RAW for example.

Spot Meter AEL Toggle was a function you could activate in the A100/A700/A850/A900. Press AEL while pointing your spot meter circle, and it will change to Spot Metering, on what you were pointed at, and then you can recompose.
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wow very nice picture. From Ipoh but from that point really duno where you shoot...
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 20 2010, 07:02 PM)
agreed!
that's why I wanted to get something that i will hold on to it for at least 5 years if possible
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It's depending your shooting requirements, are you really serious about photography and take picture very often all the time?

Do you really need a Pro Body or your requirements is enough for casual shooting using drive mode and PASM mode dial with several manual adjustment like all the entry level DSLR/EVIL camera does?

For 5 Years there might a lot of changes is really up to your requirements and opinions ...


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zstan: Secret!

ahpingko: I feel like if the vignetting was not there #1 and #2 would obviously have so-so framing. Would prefer #4 from straight on.

Happy birthday!

porkchop: Happy birthday!

wingster: The A33 does 7 FPS (Speed Priority), 6 FPS (Continuous High) and 2.5 FPS (Continuous Low); the A55V does 10 FPS (Speed Priority), 6 FPS (Continuous High) and 3 FPS (Continuous Low). Refer to page 116 of the A33/A55V manual. biggrin.gif

I don't think people care for the Continuous High or Continuous Low options enough to write about them. biggrin.gif

Also... do you think the A560/A580 will not have the overheating with SteadyShot in video? A lot of the cons in the A33/A55 apply to the A560/A580 also... people just forget to imply them.

deanmalenko: Okay lah can be cleaner, a slightly faster shutter speed would help.

evilhomura89: You might not care for most of the things he puts in his cons - I know I don't!

You don't even see the problems he does. Carl Gerrard is a very old school photographer. Some people fuss about 2 Second MLU while we don't care. There is no mirror slap on the A33/A55 so MLU does not matter.

Restrictions are what you get when you first play with the A550 and NEX bodies - you cannot use Auto HDR with RAW for example.

Spot Meter AEL Toggle was a function you could activate in the A100/A700/A850/A900. Press AEL while pointing your spot meter circle, and it will change to Spot Metering, on what you were pointed at, and then you can recompose.
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I don't mention anything about A560/A580 as I did not actually test it and I didn't even say they will not have overheating issues on the camera as well when SSS is On argh >.<

Well A560/A580 is still a mystery for me as no reviewer used to test them in detail so I have no idea about this.... but yeah it might be the same problem that happens on A33/A55 .... or maybe not?

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zstan: Secret!

ahpingko: I feel like if the vignetting was not there #1 and #2 would obviously have so-so framing. Would prefer #4 from straight on.

Happy birthday!

porkchop: Happy birthday!

wingster: The A33 does 7 FPS (Speed Priority), 6 FPS (Continuous High) and 2.5 FPS (Continuous Low); the A55V does 10 FPS (Speed Priority), 6 FPS (Continuous High) and 3 FPS (Continuous Low). Refer to page 116 of the A33/A55V manual. biggrin.gif

I don't think people care for the Continuous High or Continuous Low options enough to write about them. biggrin.gif

Also... do you think the A560/A580 will not have the overheating with SteadyShot in video? A lot of the cons in the A33/A55 apply to the A560/A580 also... people just forget to imply them.

deanmalenko: Okay lah can be cleaner, a slightly faster shutter speed would help.

evilhomura89: You might not care for most of the things he puts in his cons - I know I don't!

You don't even see the problems he does. Carl Gerrard is a very old school photographer. Some people fuss about 2 Second MLU while we don't care. There is no mirror slap on the A33/A55 so MLU does not matter.

Restrictions are what you get when you first play with the A550 and NEX bodies - you cannot use Auto HDR with RAW for example.

Spot Meter AEL Toggle was a function you could activate in the A100/A700/A850/A900. Press AEL while pointing your spot meter circle, and it will change to Spot Metering, on what you were pointed at, and then you can recompose.
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lucky carl gerrard did not write "no MLU" in cons... then i really have to slap my face... doh.gif doh.gif

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wow very nice picture. From Ipoh but from that point really duno where you shoot...
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 07:07 PM)
technically..any camera can last you for more than 5 years if you took good care of it..

as long as it still takes pictures.. biggrin.gif
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kena pandai tahan poison laaaa laugh.gif

the a560/580 got the AEL toggle button rite??
is it possible can use in video mode to lock on exposure or its auto all the way?? in a33/a55 can lock exposure in video recording??

anyways spam of the day, using sal1855 biggrin.gif
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y u guys can take so good butterfly pics one?

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no lah lucky shot that one. laugh.gif
i was sitting there for quite a while only to notice it was there. if only i had sp90 at that moment whistling.gif
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y u guys can take so good butterfly pics one?

i go near one then all fly away d. sad.gif
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Thats why you need to be stealthy ... brows.gif
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need more tips from macro shooters sweat.gif

anyways here something nice to read about lens's sharpness (link)
sorry if old repost, but just found that www.mir.com.my has many2 nice articles to read nod.gif
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thanks guy for the bday wish...anyway ahpinko, just for your info i think i bought my a550 photix grip around rm130 during cny 2010, bought from Desmond of YL photo, duno he still got stock and promo for the photix...but no free battery..

wann ask u guys about uwa, I saw tokina is the only f2.8 uwa around...any advantages apart from low light shooting for uwa?? dun say bokeh ah...i think there isn't much bokeh from uwa due to dof sweat.gif

albnok, or any other bros, wanna ask who tested the gps version of the sony dslr?? i suppose its like any gps device, where indoor the gps does not really work?? also, when startup the camera, need to wait for gps to connect/detect before being able to use the camera??
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It's depending your shooting requirements, are you really serious about photography and take picture very often all the time?

Do you really need a Pro Body or your requirements is enough for casual shooting using drive mode and PASM mode dial with several manual adjustment like all the entry level DSLR/EVIL camera does?

For 5 Years there might a lot of changes is really up to your requirements and opinions ...
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Define Pro Body? a700, a850, a900 = pro bodies?
I guess once I get a DSLR, I'm intending to be serious about it.

QUOTE(porkchop @ Sep 20 2010, 09:20 PM)
albnok, or any other bros, wanna ask who tested the gps version of the sony dslr?? i suppose its like any gps device, where indoor the gps does not really work?? also, when startup the camera, need to wait for gps to connect/detect before being able to use the camera??
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i think it's gonna be the same like the typical GPS device..indoor no signal
if not gps signal is not detected or too weak, probably the image taken won't have GPS tagging in it?
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deanmalenko: i think u pan abit too slow.. the bokeh very distracting.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 20 2010, 07:11 PM)


deanmalenko: Okay lah can be cleaner, a slightly faster shutter speed would help.

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thanks for the comment,1st time doing it,will try again after this

can i ask how to make macro shot?do i need special lens?
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 20 2010, 09:39 PM)
Define Pro Body? a700, a850, a900 = pro bodies?
I guess once I get a DSLR, I'm intending to be serious about it.
i think it's gonna be the same like the typical GPS device..indoor no signal
if not gps signal is not detected or too weak, probably the image taken won't have GPS tagging in it?
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Pro Bodies in my mind is made with good quality like Magnesium Alloy + A lots of customization like more ISO range options, dual dial, buttons and more AF point ...

Current Pro Body in Alpha range are only A700/A850/A900


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y u guys can take so good butterfly pics one?

i go near one then all fly away d. sad.gif
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Yo guys. Anyone looking for a suprbly mint condition Minolta 28mm please look at my sales thread alright? (:

zstan : Nice landscape photo wei!
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wa..why selling again? blink.gif

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QUOTE(porkchop @ Sep 20 2010, 09:20 PM)
thanks guy for the bday wish...anyway ahpinko, just for your info i think i bought my a550 photix grip around rm130 during cny 2010, bought from Desmond of YL photo, duno he still got stock and promo for the photix...but no free battery..

wann ask u guys about uwa, I saw tokina is the only f2.8 uwa around...any advantages apart from low light shooting for uwa?? dun say bokeh ah...i think there isn't much bokeh from uwa due to dof sweat.gif

albnok, or any other bros, wanna ask who tested the gps version of the sony dslr?? i suppose its like any gps device, where indoor the gps does not really work?? also, when startup the camera, need to wait for gps to connect/detect before being able to use the camera??
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can take very creative portraits too! the MFD of the tokina is damn short! forgotten how much la though. at such close distance, can make nice nice bokeh also one. biggrin.gif

very nice build as well! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(wingster @ Sep 20 2010, 09:47 PM)
Pro Bodies in my mind is made with good quality like Magnesium Alloy + A lots of customization like more ISO range options, dual dial, buttons and more AF point ...

Current Pro Body in Alpha range are only A700/A850/A900
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hmmm...i don't think i know the basics enough to fully utilize the function and features offered in a pro body
a mid-range like a5xx would be suitable
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 20 2010, 09:50 PM)
hmmm...i don't think i know the basics enough to fully utilize the function and features offered in a pro body
a mid-range like a5xx would be suitable
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technically, a5xx is enhanced entry level.

a7xx is semi pro.

and a8xx and a9xx considered pro.

anyway..its very hard to judge nowadays.

like the nikon d7000. name is entry level(compared with the d3000 n d5000) but specs is above d90. all rojak d. don't read too much into it.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 09:53 PM)
technically, a5xx is enhanced entry level.

a7xx is semi pro.

and a8xx and a9xx considered pro.

anyway..its very hard to judge nowadays.

like the nikon d7000. name is entry level(compared with the d3000 n d5000) but specs is above d90. all rojak d. don't read too much into it.
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i think now it is best to categorized based on the price
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 09:53 PM)
technically, a5xx is enhanced entry level.

a7xx is semi pro.

and a8xx and a9xx considered pro.

anyway..its very hard to judge nowadays.

like the nikon d7000. name is entry level(compared with the d3000 n d5000) but specs is above d90. all rojak d. don't read too much into it.
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Been to the IRIS 2010 workshop sponsored by Sigma and Low Yat last saturday.

Being the sponsor of the event, there are some lenses from Sigma ready for the participant to test on. There were 85mm F1.4, 50mm F1.4, and 70-200mm F2.8. Too bad there were no Sony mount >.<

I'd say im really impressed by the sharpness of Sigma's 50mm F1.4. Being unable to mount it, I've asked my friend who uses a Nikon D5000 to grab the lens and use it for d entire test shooting of the models and at wide open till F2, the models are pin sharp at the edges and details.

Here's 1 of my better shot (I think ^^,") from the event.

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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Sep 20 2010, 10:05 PM)
Been to the IRIS 2010 workshop sponsored by Sigma and Low Yat last saturday.

Being the sponsor of the event, there are some lenses from Sigma ready for the participant to test on. There were 85mm F1.4, 50mm F1.4, and 70-200mm F2.8. Too bad there were no Sony mount >.<

I'd say im really impressed by the sharpness of Sigma's 50mm F1.4. Being unable to mount it, I've asked my friend who uses a Nikon D5000 to grab the lens and use it for d entire test shooting of the models and at wide open till F2, the models are pin sharp at the edges and details.

Here's 1 of my better shot (I think ^^,") from the event.

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no reflector or flash?

IMO..for the money i pay for the 50mm f1.4..i expect it to be sharp at f1.4 as well...if not might as well i buy a f2 lens... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 10:10 PM)
no reflector or flash?

IMO..for the money i pay for the 50mm f1.4..i expect it to be sharp at f1.4 as well...if not might as well i buy a f2 lens... biggrin.gif
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Yupe, just pure daylight.

But from what I read online, the review of Sony's 50mm F1.4 is a little softer than Sigma's at wide open, but pin sharp from F2.2 onwards..like a direct opposite to Sigma's 50mm F1.4. Though it is relatively more affordable than Sigma's, but as u've mentioned, we expect it to be sharp at wide open as well, for the money we pay..

But then again, a review is a review. We still have to see for ourselves to believe huh.. biggrin.gif
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35mm f1.7 for NEX ???
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 20 2010, 09:50 PM)
can take very creative portraits too! the MFD of the tokina is damn short! forgotten how much la though. at such close distance, can make nice nice bokeh also one.  biggrin.gif

very nice build as well!  rclxms.gif
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Just wanna ask..does the NEX series camera comes with built in af motor? or is it depends on lens?
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Just wanna ask..does the NEX series camera comes with built in af motor? or is it depends on lens?
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thanks guy for the bday wish...anyway ahpinko, just for your info i think i bought my a550 photix grip around rm130 during cny 2010, bought from Desmond of YL photo, duno he still got stock and promo for the photix...but no free battery..

wann ask u guys about uwa, I saw tokina is the only f2.8 uwa around...any advantages apart from low light shooting for uwa?? dun say bokeh ah...i think there isn't much bokeh from uwa due to dof sweat.gif

albnok, or any other bros, wanna ask who tested the gps version of the sony dslr?? i suppose its like any gps device, where indoor the gps does not really work?? also, when startup the camera, need to wait for gps to connect/detect before being able to use the camera??
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clive, pinjam your pic a while ya...

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Guys,

is the price right or expensive or cheap for these under warranty items:

Sony DSLRA700K - RM2500
Sony SAL70300G - RM2250
Sony SAL50F18 - RM450
Sony SAL1680Z - RM2000
Sony VG-C70AM - RM800
Sony HVL-F58AM - RM1000

Thanks .. biggrin.gif ..
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Sep 21 2010, 12:07 AM)
Guys,

is the price right or expensive or cheap for these under warranty items:

Sony DSLRA700K - RM2500
Sony SAL70300G - RM2250
Sony SAL50F18 - RM450
Sony SAL1680Z - RM2000
Sony VG-C70AM - RM800
Sony HVL-F58AM - RM1000

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which shop selling this Sony SAL70300G - RM2250?
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which shop selling this Sony SAL70300G - RM2250?
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which shop selling this Sony SAL70300G - RM2250?
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saw that at alphanatics whistling.gif
the one selling the F20 is also tempting laugh.gif

cjlai : so when's the mass order?? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Sep 21 2010, 12:16 AM)
this is 2nd hand item lah .. I am selling mine ..
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Oh hehe how long u using your 70-300G
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hello guys. look. im having problem with my a100
i think my snap button is jammed.
i cant snap pictures. and i dont the problem is. so what should i do and where can i fix my camera? and i want to know what is the problem.

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wingster: My bad as it seems it sounds like I have directed that at you - I'm just saying that despite all the people noting the cons of the A33/A55, the A560/A580 doesn't do better.

mastering89:

Back on the KM5D/KM7D/A100/A700/A850/A900, you could set AEL to:

AEL Hold
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Spot Meter AEL Toggle

Spot Meter AEL Toggle is my favorite use on my A100/A700/A900 as it guarantees a spot metered face, and no underexposure. Underexposure leads to noise (and less vibrant pictures!)

Of course, on the NEX and SLT cameras, you can immediately see that something is underexposed and dial it up.

Yes, you can use the AEL button to lock exposure while recording video, and you can also change EV while recording video, according to this:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA55/AA55VIDEO.HTM

I didn't test the AEL during video though (to me, the auto-exposure is a lot smoother than the Canons'...)

And let's have a tight crop of the butterfly!

porkchop: The Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 ZA SSM is also an ultra-wide angle lens. wink.gif

I didn't test the A55V GPS indoors as all the A55V units were outdoors. I do not know also if it will have a weak approximation like my phone does.

ReasonsofThanatos: Wah nice Sigma 85mm F1.4! I would rather have used that as I've tried the Sigma 50mm F1.4 on A-mount. It is a very nice lens, but the 85mm is the unknown one so far.

AlphaBeta: In-lens motor with full-time manual focus override.

achew: Long time no see but I can't see what is going on. sad.gif

shukrie: Hmmm this picture is a lot more casual than your usual stuff.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 21 2010, 12:57 AM)
wingster: My bad as it seems it sounds like I have directed that at you - I'm just saying that despite all the people noting the cons of the A33/A55, the A560/A580 doesn't do better.

mastering89:

Back on the KM5D/KM7D/A100/A700/A850/A900, you could set AEL to:

AEL Hold
AEL Toggle
Spot Meter AEL Hold
Spot Meter AEL Toggle

Spot Meter AEL Toggle is my favorite use on my A100/A700/A900 as it guarantees a spot metered face, and no underexposure. Underexposure leads to noise (and less vibrant pictures!)

Of course, on the NEX and SLT cameras, you can immediately see that something is underexposed and dial it up.

Yes, you can use the AEL button to lock exposure while recording video, and you can also change EV while recording video, according to this:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA55/AA55VIDEO.HTM

I didn't test the AEL during video though (to me, the auto-exposure is a lot smoother than the Canons'...)

And let's have a tight crop of the butterfly!

porkchop: The Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 ZA SSM is also an ultra-wide angle lens. wink.gif

I didn't test the A55V GPS indoors as all the A55V units were outdoors. I do not know also if it will have a weak approximation like my phone does.

ReasonsofThanatos: Wah nice Sigma 85mm F1.4! I would rather have used that as I've tried the Sigma 50mm F1.4 on A-mount. It is a very nice lens, but the 85mm is the unknown one so far.

AlphaBeta: In-lens motor with full-time manual focus override.

achew: Long time no see but I can't see what is going on. sad.gif

shukrie: Hmmm this picture is a lot more casual than your usual stuff.
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mr.albnok! its been awhile.can u help me with my problem? its my A100. i think the snap button is jammed.and i do not know y.can help me? n where can i fix my camera? i hope u can help me smile.gif

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QUOTE(hargreaves4 @ Sep 21 2010, 01:03 AM)
mr.albnok! its been awhile.can u help me with my problem? its my A100. i think the snap button is jammed.and i do not know y.can help me? n where can i fix my camera? i hope u can help me smile.gif
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2010, 02:50 AM)
Camera Sony DSLR-A700
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Camera Sony DSLR-A700
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William: I like the 2nd photo TAIWAN SAUSAGE... very detail with nice background..Look tasty tongue.gif feel like eating supper.. is 5.30Am!! shit..
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 21 2010, 12:57 AM)
ReasonsofThanatos: Wah nice Sigma 85mm F1.4! I would rather have used that as I've tried the Sigma 50mm F1.4 on A-mount. It is a very nice lens, but the 85mm is the unknown one so far.
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Yeah..im also quite curious to know its performance...but the 85mm on APS-C is quite pushy..have to "hit cow in between mountain" (cantonese)... laugh.gif even with 50mm I have to stand like 2 meters away from my subject to fill d frame with a little space left beside my subject..
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@lwliam: woah, make me miss the 台湾香肠 so very much! but I tell you I'll puke if you loaded a photo of them 臭豆腐! did you practically use 2470 + 1118 over there?
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I managed to get my hands on the A33 in KLCC Sony Style last night for a little hands on testing. In the brief moments that I have it this is what I found about it:

1. The A33 is a little too small for me! I do not think it can stay comfortable in my hands for long periods of shooting.

2. I tried the EVF and I must say I disliked it. This is due to the fact that I wear glasses and I cannot take them off for shooting. My eyesight is bad and without my glasses I'm practically blind!

With my glasses on, I find that the edges of the EVF all seemed blurred to me. Only the center is sharp.

3. I like the horizon indicator tool that it has. It a nifty tool to have to check if your horizon is level.

The wrap around rubber on the grip is a throw back to the A100 design! Hahaha.

So no A33/A55 for me I'm afraid. The body is kinda small and a little too light and I find it kinda difficult to take it seriously but that's just me.
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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Sep 21 2010, 09:09 AM)
@lwliam: woah, make me miss the 台湾香肠 so very much! but I tell you I'll puke if you loaded a photo of them 臭豆腐! did you practically use 2470 + 1118 over there?
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i LOVE them... had like 4-5 servings of different types at different cities... in fact, the smellier(fragrant) the nicer the juice when you bite into one.

yeah, i only brought 11-18, 24-70 and 50mm.. never used the 50mm before.

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@shootkk Its somehow like the Canon 550D ... I feel much better to hold my A550 and much balance compare to A33/A55 but when mounted with light primes like the Minolta 28mm and 50mm they looks good to hold IMO


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lwliam: Nooooo!~ They stink, stonk, stank the entire mile, ugh. but your shots almost made them seem tolerable, lol. I guess the 2470 would have been the ideal lens for travel if using a FF huh?
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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Sep 21 2010, 09:48 AM)
lwliam: Nooooo!~ They stink, stonk, stank the entire mile, ugh. but your shots almost made them seem tolerable, lol. I guess the 2470 would have been the ideal lens for travel if using a FF huh?
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lwliam: just to check with you. would 1635 or 2470 serve you better during travel? wat i'd like to know is, how many percent was shot with 1118 and also 2470 during your trip?
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lwliam: just to check with you. would 1635 or 2470 serve you better during travel? wat i'd like to know is, how many percent was shot with 1118 and also 2470 during your trip?
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If you're on FF then a 24-70mm will be sufficient. If you're on APS-C then the 16-35 will come in handy. I went travelling with my A850 during the day I would have the Minolta 24-85mm f3.5-f4.5 on and at night the 50mm prime will be on. That's all I need.
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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Sep 21 2010, 09:53 AM)
lwliam: just to check with you. would 1635 or 2470 serve you better during travel? wat i'd like to know is, how many percent was shot with 1118 and also 2470 during your trip?
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hard to say, it really depends on location.. daytime where sightseeing with landscape and indoors with huge expanse, it'd be the 1118... 24-70 for picking out details and ppl shots..

night time walking around and food shots will be my 24-70... so i'd say the ratio will be about 6:4, more on the 24-70..
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feel like setting a fund for the 16-35 >_< RM54xx..i guess can buy it in 4 years time? =X
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feel like setting a fund for the 16-35 >_< RM54xx..i guess can buy it in 4 years time? =X
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i LOVE them... had like 4-5 servings of different types at different cities... in fact, the smellier(fragrant) the nicer the juice when you bite into one.

yeah, i only brought 11-18, 24-70 and 50mm.. never used the 50mm before.
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OT: have u tried those in the cheras night market?

did anyone see a33 in any of the sony center (not sonystyle)?
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While we're on the topic of lenses, I'd like to check with you guys because this is what I feel about premium F2.8 lenses eg CZ1635, 2470, 70200G.

While their output is somewhat better than non-premium lenses, I think that their weight detracts the photographer a bit. Furthermore, they cost an arm and a leg too.

Some may say it is a matter of getting used to it but I think that having lenses which are lighter will let the photographer concentrate on the shooting than being bogged down by a heavy lens.

Anyone here feels that way?
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OT: have u tried those in the cheras night market?

did anyone see a33 in any of the sony center (not sonystyle)?
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like you said...its more about getting used to the weight..

but looking at sony..i won be surprised if they can come out with a new 24-70 with the same or better optics, but remain the same size and weight with my tammy. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Sep 21 2010, 11:11 AM)
While we're on the topic of lenses, I'd like to check with you guys because this is what I feel about premium F2.8 lenses eg CZ1635, 2470, 70200G.

While their output is somewhat better than non-premium lenses, I think that their weight detracts the photographer a bit. Furthermore, they cost an arm and a leg too.

Some may say it is a matter of getting used to it but I think that having lenses which are lighter will let the photographer concentrate on the shooting than being bogged down by a heavy lens.

Anyone here feels that way?
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not so much on the weight... and output is not only 'somewhat better', its a heck lot better tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2010, 11:06 AM)
@cjlai: ur trip where?
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While we're on the topic of lenses, I'd like to check with you guys because this is what I feel about premium F2.8 lenses eg CZ1635, 2470, 70200G.

While their output is somewhat better than non-premium lenses, I think that their weight detracts the photographer a bit. Furthermore, they cost an arm and a leg too.

Some may say it is a matter of getting used to it but I think that having lenses which are lighter will let the photographer concentrate on the shooting than being bogged down by a heavy lens.

Anyone here feels that way?
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The weight is a real consideration for me. I mean of course the IQ of the Zeiss lenses are better but I'm opting more for primes which will come close. Of course you can't really get the laser sharpness, micro contrast and the Zeiss colors but primes weighs a lot less and far more easier to lug around. The primes costs less too. Heck even the new Zeiss 24mm f2 will cost less than the existing Zeiss zooms! biggrin.gif

That's the reason I have a 20mm prime (this will have to do for the moment until can find the funds to get the Zeiss 24mm f2) plus the 50mm prime. These 2 lenses can replace the 24-70mm and they weigh less put together than a single 24-70! Plus I have the option to go down all the way to f1.4 on the 50mm

I'm looking to get the 85mm f2.8 SAM too. That's another lightweight lens that can stay in the bag all the time. smile.gif
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ok, not so smelly this one.. FOUR pictures of delicious yummies..

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 21 2010, 11:30 AM)
The weight is a real consideration for me. I mean of course the IQ of the Zeiss lenses are better but I'm opting more for primes which will come close. Of course you can't really get the laser sharpness, micro contrast and the Zeiss colors but primes weighs a lot less and far more easier to lug around. The primes costs less too. Heck even the new Zeiss 24mm f2 will cost less than the existing Zeiss zooms!  biggrin.gif

That's the reason I have a 20mm prime (this will have to do for the moment until  can find the funds to get the Zeiss 24mm f2) plus the 50mm prime. These 2 lenses can replace the 24-70mm and they weigh less put together than a single 24-70! Plus I have the option to go down all the way to f1.4 on the 50mm

I'm looking to get the 85mm f2.8 SAM too. That's another lightweight lens that can stay in the bag all the time.  smile.gif
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Yes, that's what I'm talking about. In fact, I reckon that the CZ24 and 85 on a FF would be an amazing pair, though they cost more than one 2470 though.


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75% of the images are very appetizing and the remainder makes me Really Hungry.


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i shoot events a lot..hence primes are not quite convenient for me... biggrin.gif



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zstan : Unless you cannot really get close or move around, primes will do nicely for events too.
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zstan : Unless you cannot really get close or move around, primes will do nicely for events too.
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ok when i mean primes, i refering those below the 85mm range ya? biggrin.gif i dun mind a 300mm f2.8 in my bag. tongue.gif

so yeah..most of the time i can't get too close.. blush.gif and for APS-C there isnt really a wide angle prime lens yet...will go for more primes when i go FF..


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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2010, 12:01 PM)
ok when i mean primes, i refering those below the 85mm range ya?  biggrin.gif  i dun mind a 300mm f2.8 in my bag.  tongue.gif

so yeah..most of the time i can't get too close.. blush.gif  and for APS-C there isnt really a wide angle prime lens yet...will go for more primes when i go FF..
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there IS wide angle prime...

http://www.carmarthencameras.co.uk/product...35minoltasonyaf

same one: http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/Sigma-18mm-F3.5-Zen_lens434.html

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i prefer faster prime..at least f2.8 la..... icon_idea.gif
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U mean taman connaught one? that one sucks! worst CTF i've ever tried....
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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Sep 21 2010, 11:11 AM)
While we're on the topic of lenses, I'd like to check with you guys because this is what I feel about premium F2.8 lenses eg CZ1635, 2470, 70200G.

While their output is somewhat better than non-premium lenses, I think that their weight detracts the photographer a bit. Furthermore, they cost an arm and a leg too.

Some may say it is a matter of getting used to it but I think that having lenses which are lighter will let the photographer concentrate on the shooting than being bogged down by a heavy lens.

Anyone here feels that way?
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what i feel about BMW and Merc, is that, they weight so much, (lucky, they have a choice of 24mp engine to power them) and consume so much petrol(memory space), cost u an arm and leg... but i still see whole street of rich people driving it.

Anyone here feels that way?

tongue.gif agree?

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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2010, 12:42 PM)
wa pentax K5 can go iso51200. @@
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then ma noisy like crazy... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2010, 01:56 PM)
not sure..would like to see the output..  biggrin.gif
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lwliam: eh bro...ur flickr pro how much u pay ah??...
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 21 2010, 02:24 PM)
wow.. rclxms.gif

lwliam: eh bro...ur flickr pro how much u pay ah??...
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 21 2010, 12:51 PM)
shootkk: i think camera soon will be a very personal possession... design to fit some, but not all. A33 definitely not meant for u. because, myself dont feel it too. but it does meant it not for others... many of my friend loves the small size and are not bothered with the size or grip, or look, or evf, infact they loves it. LOL wink.gif
what i feel about BMW and Merc, is that, they weight so much, (lucky, they have a choice of 24mp engine to power them) and consume so much petrol(memory space), cost u an arm and leg... but i still see whole street of rich people driving it.

Anyone here feels that way?

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$24.95 for 1 year, depends on how much is the conversion rate at the time of credit card charge
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u use credit card to pay ??..actually how to use credit card to pay such online transaction 1...lol...i also wanted to buy a pro account.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 21 2010, 02:52 PM)
u use credit card to pay ??..actually how to use credit card to pay such online transaction 1...lol...i also wanted to buy a pro account.. tongue.gif

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cjlai : Very sharp pics! The glass must've been really clean if you were shooting through the glass in Underwater world! Haha!

gjtan : Where did you get those CTF??? Isit in msia??? Looks yummy!


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hargreaves4: Send it to Sony lah.

ReasonOfThanatos: Not with a full frame you won't! biggrin.gif Even on APS-C you can use it for head portraits.

cjlai: Interesting shots with the mirror, but could be refined more lah.

zstan: I'd pick a few primes in the <85mm range than just one 300mm F2.8 for what I usually shoot.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2010, 01:07 PM)
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lwliam: 4th pic is da bestttttt drool.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(yuhi @ Sep 21 2010, 03:38 PM)
lwliam: 4th pic is da bestttttt  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif
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yes i also prefer 4th pic..or even better eating number 2 and 3 with number 4
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2010, 09:42 AM)
first attempt using WMM, C&C appreciated.  notworthy.gif

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Ztan: Windows Movie Maker is a lousy software (free of course), It cant even render a High resolution output. If you interested in doing photo slideshow I suggest you the one I currently using...Pro ShowGold. Is simple & easy to use but u still get enough option to play around. You can either buy it or download it tongue.gif

For the C&C, I'll skip the photos comment. I believe the photos still have much more you can improve on...do more wedding shot and everytime u will learn something new. A quick tips is convert some of the too COLOURFUL photos (auntie shirts+ uncle shirts + chairs + background multi colour) into Black and white. Less distraction hehe.

For the Video, here is what I like to comment. This is base on personal experience & preferences so feel free to take it or not blush.gif

1. Funky Transition with "love" & "star" shape or other random transition is a No No.. no offense but i think they are ugly.. at least not for wedding. I will stick to the basic slow fade in & out transition only.
2. Always give your photos a bit of movement. Either slowly zoom in, zoom out, moving from left to right or bottom to top. It gives the audience the feeling they are really watching Video than static photo presentation in a meeting. It can distract the viewer from spotting defects in you photo, such as a pimple on the bride face. (good if ur photo is ordinary only. bad for if ur photo are beautiful at every pixel)
3. If you want to do a even more perfect slide, you can try matching the music with your photos..matching the Chorus of the song with the Climax of the photos (in this case maybe the bride & groom meet).. Think of it like a movie trailer tongue.gif sorry i just love watching movie trailer.
4. Personally I like to choose song/music which is less well known.. (not those songs hear from hits FM everyday), cause I think this will give audience a more Refreshing experience.

Anyway good job and it is a nice start. I do my first video using WMM also and when I look back the video, it is just way too terrible to even share it... whistling.gif u can view my oldest video in my Youtube acc.

Here are some photo slides I did. Hope give u an idea of my points above. Still a lot I want to improve on... currently Videography inspires me.. will like to try one day

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QUOTE(Strik3 @ Sep 21 2010, 09:53 AM)
lwliam: just to check with you. would 1635 or 2470 serve you better during travel? wat i'd like to know is, how many percent was shot with 1118 and also 2470 during your trip?
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1116 F2.8 + 50mm F1.4 for my 2 weeks europe trip.. restrict myself within that range.. the only downside is taking food photos become quite difficult..luckily there isnt much nice food in europe compare to Taiwan.

QUOTE(cjlai @ Sep 21 2010, 11:02 AM)
my trip spam...

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cjilai~~ I think my girl friend will scream seeing your photos.. It feels like the cicak is on my LCD rclxub.gif Creepy


QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2010, 11:37 AM)
ok, not so smelly this one.. FOUR pictures of delicious yummies..
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lwliam: Nice Yummy photos!! all taken using ur 24-70 F2.8? The last photo is the waitress? so Sweet (n yummy too)...


QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 21 2010, 11:47 AM)
i shoot events a lot..hence primes are not quite convenient for me...
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but the quality of the primes are irresistible.. hahaha, I think I switch between my 1750 F2.8 and 50mmF1.4 almost 40times every single event/wedding I shoot.. End up most of my favorite photos come from the prime...maybe can put it this way:

- capturing Beauty comes from the primes
- capturing Moment comes from the zoom
If you can capture the Moment + beauty with the Primes = PERFECT! haha



QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 21 2010, 12:51 PM)
shootkk: i think camera soon will be a very personal possession... design to fit some, but not all. A33 definitely not meant for u. because, myself dont feel it too. but it does meant it not for others... many of my friend loves the small size and are not bothered with the size or grip, or look, or evf, infact they loves it. LOL wink.gif
what i feel about BMW and Merc, is that, they weight so much, (lucky, they have a choice of 24mp engine to power them) and consume so much petrol(memory space), cost u an arm and leg... but i still see whole street of rich people driving it.

Anyone here feels that way?

tongue.gif agree?
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Agree. Good way to put into comparison thumbup.gif

QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 21 2010, 02:52 PM)
u use credit card to pay ??..actually how to use credit card to pay such online transaction 1...lol...i also wanted to buy a pro account..

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Add me after you have Flickr. I register my cc with paypal.. then buy the flickr pro acc using the paypal... Mayb can directly with CC but I dont remember already.

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@ahpingko
if you no credit card, i think maybank ATM card/ Maybankard Debit can do the wonder.. biggrin.gif

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where da rojak CTF from? ahaha
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 21 2010, 03:53 PM)
lwliam: Nice Yummy photos!! all taken using ur 24-70 F2.8? The last photo is the waitress? so Sweet (n yummy too)...
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yup, all from 24-70.. mostly around f/3.2 if not mistaken..

the girl isnt the waitress, she's selling 'super thin slices of ba kua'... but in the end i didnt buy from her (my colleagues did though)

and clubbing in Taiwan is teh AWESOMEEEESSSSSSSSS
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 21 2010, 04:05 PM)
yup, all from 24-70.. mostly around f/3.2 if not mistaken..

the girl isnt the waitress, she's selling 'super thin slices of ba kua'... but in the end i didnt buy from her (my colleagues did though)

and clubbing in Taiwan is teh AWESOMEEEESSSSSSSSS
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Aiyoyo.. funny la dude.~~ hahhaha pretty taiwan girl! thumbup.gif
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i see where's ur hand william...bad boy...hahaha tongue.gif

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lwliam: muka macam taikor! haha.. and ur hand... nice touch (to the photo i mean)... hahahaha.....
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 21 2010, 03:53 PM)
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1116 F2.8 + 50mm F1.4 for my 2 weeks europe trip.. restrict myself within that range.. the only downside is taking food photos become quite difficult..luckily there isnt much nice food in europe compare to Taiwan.
cjilai~~ I think my girl friend will scream seeing your photos.. It feels like the cicak is on my LCD rclxub.gif Creepy
lwliam: Nice Yummy photos!! all taken using ur 24-70 F2.8? The last photo is the waitress? so Sweet (n yummy too)...
but the quality of the primes are irresistible.. hahaha, I think I switch between my 1750 F2.8 and 50mmF1.4 almost 40times every single event/wedding I shoot.. End up most of my favorite photos come from the prime...maybe can put it this way:

- capturing Beauty comes from the primes
- capturing Moment comes from the zoom
If you can capture the Moment + beauty with the Primes = PERFECT! haha
Agree. Good way to put into comparison  thumbup.gif
Add me after you have Flickr. I register my cc with paypal.. then buy the flickr pro acc using the paypal... Mayb can directly with CC but I dont remember already.
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thanks for the comments. i did this video in a rush and just randomly picked the effects. tongue.gif

will keep the tips in mind! thanks notworthy.gif

p/s: i am not the official photographer. so i can't really get all the beautiful angles & positions. still need to let the official ones do their job biggrin.gif

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yup, all from 24-70.. mostly around f/3.2 if not mistaken..

the girl isnt the waitress, she's selling 'super thin slices of ba kua'... but in the end i didnt buy from her (my colleagues did though)

and clubbing in Taiwan is teh AWESOMEEEESSSSSSSSS
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i saw what u did there brows.gif pretty la wub.gif

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New zeiss lens for NEX!! actually i curious bout the flash at the bottom of the report, hope it is a NEX flash.
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anyone saw this?
NEX OWNER, TAKE NOTE!!!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10092123...nexfirmware.asp
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Version 03 addresses a number of widely-expressed concerns about the user interface as well as allowing autofocus using the 14 Sony SAM and SSM lenses with built-in focus motors. It also allows the aperture to be set for video shooting.
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Available from mid-October, a firmware update adds fresh functionality to the NEX-5/NEX-3. Autofocus operation is now supported when using A-mount SAM and SSM lenses with the optional LA-EA1 Mount Adaptor. There’s also a new custom function that allows assignment to buttons of frequently-used functions, plus a new function to record movies with setup aperture.



Added on September 21, 2010, 4:56 pmand go read the press release by sony for photokina
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10092114...atphotokina.asp
A-Mount series interchangeable lens camera
Camera body

* Advanced model
* Translucent Mirror Technology
* Exmor APS HD CMOS Sensor
* AVCHD Full HD video

Lenses

* Standard zoom lens suitable for advanced model
* Telephoto Lens (500mm F4G)   


Accessories

* Flash  
* Vertical grip

E-Mount series interchangeable lens camera

Camera body

* Color Variation Concept Models of NEX-5 and NEX-3

Lenses

* Wide fixed focal length CZ : available from 2011
* Telephoto zoom : available from 2011
* Macro : available from 2011
* Portrait : available from 2011
* High performance standard zoom G : available from 2012
* Wide zoom : available from 2012
* Mid-telephoto : available from 2012

Accessories

* Flash

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OMGGGGGG...

a mount is capable to AF in NEX now! rclxm9.gif

so many poisons next year! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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isn't that already mentioned so many times?

err.. if using NEX adapter.. any vignetting issue or not?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 21 2010, 05:07 PM)
isn't that already mentioned so many times?

err.. if using NEX adapter.. any vignetting issue or not?
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it was mentioned but not confirmed ma..now 100% got already... laugh.gif

sadly..no a700 replacement yet.. i wonder whethetr will the a77 live up to the hype..
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ Sep 21 2010, 03:57 PM)
@ahpingko
if you no credit card, i think maybank ATM card/ Maybankard Debit can do the wonder.. biggrin.gif

@gjtan
where da rojak CTF from? ahaha
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i got...hehe..just dono how to use it to pay online.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 21 2010, 05:27 PM)
i got...hehe..just dono how to use it to pay online.... tongue.gif
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same like how you buy movie tickets online on GSC or TGV
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same like how you buy movie tickets online on GSC or TGV
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a700 replacement mockup is shown in photokina
huge photos inside from dpreview - http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2010/Sony/
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From the looks of it, the A7xx may have an articulating LCD. The LCD kind of pops up a bit in the mock up. Just me and my speculations only lar...

So earliest probable release for this A7xx will be first quarter 2011. I'm wondering what they will put in it. New AF system? 10 fps?
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and..weather sealed..dust sealed...and.....scratch resistance? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 21 2010, 06:06 PM)
From the looks of it, the A7xx may have an articulating LCD. The LCD kind of pops up a bit in the mock up. Just me and my speculations only lar...

So earliest probable release for this A7xx will be first quarter 2011. I'm wondering what they will put in it. New AF system? 10 fps?
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articulating LCD is the new trend now
it's so useful in many ways...but i'm not sure how different would the mockup be compared to the actual production unit
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Confirmed AF with NEX adapter?! This news is intense!

Is the aperture settings for video recording On-The-Go or Set-Then-Record anyway?

One concern - would Sony forsake screw drive lenses with new bodies moving forward? SAM/SSM seems like their roadmap for product development recently.
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what is the cheapest prime lens from sony?
is it 50mm f1.8 or 35mm f1.8?


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OT again: science bth/envmgmt
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luckily my course fees still the same as when i was enrolled

what is the cheapest prime lens from sony?
is it 50mm f1.8 or 35mm f1.8?
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50mmf1.8 lor..35mm f1.8 belum sampai lagi.. laugh.gif
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OT: u at monash too?

50mmf1.8 lor..35mm f1.8 belum sampai lagi.. laugh.gif
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yes..at monash sunway campus final year 2011

so is 35mm f1.8 cheaper than 50mm f1.8 when it arrives?
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OT again: science bth/envmgmt
suppose to graduate aft this..but double degree have to stay extra one year
luckily my course fees still the same as when i was enrolled

what is the cheapest prime lens from sony?
is it 50mm f1.8 or 35mm f1.8?
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 21 2010, 10:37 PM)
yes..at monash sunway campus final year 2011

so is 35mm f1.8 cheaper than 50mm f1.8 when it arrives?
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 21 2010, 10:26 PM)
OT again: science bth/envmgmt
suppose to graduate aft this..but double degree have to stay extra one year
luckily my course fees still the same as when i was enrolled

what is the cheapest prime lens from sony?
is it 50mm f1.8 or 35mm f1.8?
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50mm f1.8 is one of the cheapest lens in the sony lineup.certain sellers selling for rm450 (street price)..

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 21 2010, 10:37 PM)
yes..at monash sunway campus final year 2011

so is 35mm f1.8 cheaper than 50mm f1.8 when it arrives?
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nope.

50mm f1.8 are the cheapest lens, irregardless of the brands.
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Hi all alpha member my photo now in Facebook Digital Camera Magazine Malaysia's Photos - Ricoh-DCM "Creative Blur" 40 finalist

if you all got time go this LINK vote for my image. Thank You.
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apparently someone openly publicize to vote for pict #19 on that page
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sepam my noob pic taken in melaka zoo...

i feel i m bad in capturing wildlife...dono what angle is the best..

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#1 mayb have to move a bit to the left
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im a nex 5 user..would like to know wat does this mean?

Available from mid-October, a firmware update adds fresh functionality to the NEX-5/NEX-3. Autofocus operation is now supported when using A-mount SAM and SSM lenses with the optional LA-EA1 Mount Adaptor. There’s also a new custom function that allows assignment to buttons of frequently-used functions, plus a new function to record movies with setup aperture.

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wonder how would be the optical performance like
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im a nex 5 user..would like to know wat does this mean?

Available from mid-October, a firmware update adds fresh functionality to the NEX-5/NEX-3. Autofocus operation is now supported when using A-mount SAM and SSM lenses with the optional LA-EA1 Mount Adaptor. There’s also a new custom function that allows assignment to buttons of frequently-used functions, plus a new function to record movies with setup aperture.

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http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=4513
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Mr. Toru Katsumodo (Senior General Manager in Sony’s Imaging division) said that: “the advanced model DSLR we were promised at PMA this year will use translucent mirror technology. Like the a55 and a33, this model will utilize full-time phase-detect AF with an electronic viewfinder for extremely fast focus and shooting performance. Other details revealed about the camera are that it will use a CMOS sensor and offer full HD video recording in AVCHD.


so has sony determine their future?
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2010/Sony/

Guys bigger flash and better lens come to nex..be ready..
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2010/Sony/

Guys bigger flash and better lens come to nex..be ready..
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8tvt: No vignetting from the LA-EA1.

shootkk: They would probably put the articulating LCD in - all the video-recording Alphas (including the NEX series) have articulated screens.

Strik3: According to this:

http://www.engadget.com/photos/asas/#3386150

Aperture is set before recording, and is maintained during video recording.

A funny typo in another slide says the Carl Zeiss 24mm F2.0 SSM is a SAL24F20G. biggrin.gif

Wonka: #1 is almost there; that thing in the bottom is a bit distracting. Love the light on the tuner pegs - get a macro of that?

cjlai: Nice, it looks like there was a piano!

Kul | Mo0: Nice but nicer without the other flower.

ahpingko: LOL in #2 it looks like the parrot is calling "wei come take picture" but the other parrot tak layan. Just wish it wasn't so cropped. I like #5 also.

Try to get the personality of these animals. It will be fun!

yuhi: Get the macaroons from directly above in the box.

evilhomura89: For now, yes.

It seems that the A700 replacement we have seen, will be an A77.

We don't know what they will do in 2011 and 2012 though!
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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Sep 22 2010, 01:39 AM)
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2010/Sony/

Guys bigger flash and better lens come to nex..be ready..
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OMG there's a broken Zeiss E-mount lens in the pics. The NEX flash so damn ugly.
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OMG there's a broken Zeiss E-mount lens in the pics.  The NEX flash so damn ugly.
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the flash looks like a F20, finally, can bounce. yeay!

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ahpingko: LOL in #2 it looks like the parrot is calling "wei come take picture" but the other parrot tak layan. Just wish it wasn't so cropped. I like #5 also.

i did not crop it...jz use a full zoom at 300mm..lols..i found this 75-300 lens quite sharp when it have sufficient light...
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The NEX-3/NEX-5 will get a firmware update, v.03, in the middle of October 2010, to enable;

- setting aperture when starting video recording (but you cannot change it while recording)
- autofocus with SAM and SSM A-mount lenses using the Sony LA-EA1 A-to-E lens adapter
- customizable keys (apparently, the center button and the bottom button, with at least being able to change Auto HDR, ISO, White Balance.)

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I've enhanced this screengrab from Engadget so you can see it clearly.

The NEX-VG10 will get a firmware update as well in the middle of November 2010. Both the camera and lens adapter need to be updated.

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Image taken and brightened from DPReview's Photokina 2010 pictures.

Of course, I am also looking forward to the new tiny flash, with bounce mode! There are also a variety of new colors that the NEX cameras may come in. Go Pentax! Er, I mean, Sony...

There will also be new lenses!

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I've enhanced this screengrab from Engadget so you can see it clearly.

This is the 2011 Sony E-mount lineup.
Telephoto Zoom - knowing Sony it sounds like a classic 55-200mm F4-5.6.
Portrait - again, I don't think they'd be very creative with this - a 50mm F1.4 probably. The F1.8 would have a much more recessed, smaller front glass.
Macro - sounds and like a 30mm F2.8 Macro.
Carl Zeiss Wide-Angle Fixed Focal Length - wide-angle can be anywhere from 11mm to 24mm but I'd guess 24mm F2.0 to avoid overlap with the 16mm F2.8.

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I've enhanced this screengrab from Engadget so you can see it clearly.

This is the 2012 Sony E-mount lineup.
High Performance Standard Zoom (G) - they didn't mention large aperture so it could be a F3.5-4.5 or F4.0 zoom. I'd be hoping for a 16-105mm F3.5-4.5!
Middle Telephoto - they didn't call it a zoom, and 85mm or 90mm is right in the middle. 85mm F2.8, I'd guess.
Wide Angle Zoom - no large aperture, I'd guess 11-18mm F4.5-5.6. I like the size though!

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I've also enhanced this screengrab from Engadget. Shown is a new flash, using the same fantastic swivel action as the Sony HVL-F58AM, but you can tell it is different from the front light. Also seen is the A700 replacement, which is stated to be using translucent mirror technology, like the A33 and A55.

Which kinda makes it an A77.

It has what looks like the classic VG-C70AM, which is good news, as it would probably support the NP-FM500H battery. Otherwise, the mock looks the same.

Also seen is a new lens - from patents announced, it could be a Carl Zeiss 16-80mm F2.8-3.5 DT SAM. (It is SAM, not SSM, from the cheapo AF/MF switch.) We can only hope!

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Image taken and brightened from DPReview's Photokina 2010 pictures.

This is the Sony 500mm F4G SSM. It really just transforms into classic Megatron.

ianho: LOL I think the oversized flash is kinda cute. Now if only someone can get a shot of it next to the HVL-F20AM!

signither: Whoaaa what does it mean?

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the 500mm's finishing is really nice~ laugh.gif wonder if its weather sealed for action and sports photography..

by the way..to those who used a33/a55...how long does it take for the EVF to switch on when you place your eye in the view finder? i read comments saying its about half a second? hmm.gif
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@albnok

if the a77 is using the translucent mirror technology most probably using the EVF rite?

and the new design nex flash..feel like design it to do wireless trigger on external flash like f42 and f58
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 22 2010, 09:51 AM)
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I've enhanced this screengrab from Engadget so you can see it clearly.

This is the 2012 Sony E-mount lineup.
High Performance Standard Zoom (G) - they didn't mention large aperture so it could be a F3.5-4.5 or F4.0 zoom. I'd be hoping for a 16-105mm F3.5-4.5!
Middle Telephoto - they didn't call it a zoom, and 85mm or 90mm is right in the middle. 85mm F2.8, I'd guess.
Wide Angle Zoom - no large aperture, I'd guess 11-18mm F4.5-5.6. I like the size though!
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i think it couldnt be an 11-18, the front element's too flat..

QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 22 2010, 09:58 AM)
the 500mm's finishing is really nice~ laugh.gif wonder if its weather sealed for action and sports photography..

by the way..to those who used a33/a55...how long does it take for the EVF to switch on when you place your eye in the view finder? i read comments saying its about half a second? hmm.gif
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its not the finished unit la.. they will put a coat of white or silver on it definitely.. look at the switch panel and u'll know.. and what's the use if they weather seal the lens but not the body?

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true...hope the a77 is weather sealed as well...

oh how long more do we have to wait...
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WOW @ the 500mm f4G, looks like a real bazooka with its silver exterior! Sleek~~!

@the new nex flash... Wonder if the mount will be damaged under the stress of the huge flash hmm.gif
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wow thanks for the news albnok...... so much poison, but yet have to resist.....
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There are more high-resolution pictures here:
http://presscentre.sony.eu/content/detail....20&NewsAreaId=2

zstan: I don't remember any lag.

kevinwcw: Unfortunately, it seems a lot of people presume that translucent mirror technology means EVF. We'll see. wink.gif

lwliam: Good point, but why would they go halfway there? Even the Sigma 15-30mm and 17-35mm have far more curvy front elements. The only lens I can find with a flatter profile is the Minolta 20-35mm F3.5-4.5.
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I am really, really hoping to see a 'translucent' with OVF for the A77 or A7xx. Plus some kick ass new features for a semi-pro body. We know Sony has some kinda new AF system in the works - the A33/A55 has more AF points and can track moderate speed moving target quite well.

Here's hoping that they can enhance that and put the kick-ass updated version on the A77/A7xx

Couple that with a 10fps and a bright 100% OVF with HD video and Sony will have a winner in their hands.
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if using OVF on translucent tech.. is it enough light to bounce the image?
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8tvt: YES there would be enough light.

Now let's say the light loss from the translucent mirror is 30%. That is the brightness difference between F3.5 and F4.0.

You put your 18-55mm on, at 18mm, and you change to the 55-200mm at 55mm. Can you tell the difference?
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8tvt : That's why I say I'm looking forward to it. With CURRENT knowledge, there's just too little light for a good OVF but who's to say Sony does not have some kind of revolutionary solution to this issue?

They already implemented a 100% OVF with FF sensor based stabilization that most people say was impossible then.

They came up with the Quick Autofocus Live View.

They came up with the Cobra Action F58.

I wouldn't put it past them to come up with some kinda surprise.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 22 2010, 11:16 AM)
if using OVF on translucent tech.. is it enough light to bounce the image?
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i agree, the drop in light to reach the OVF will be quite high.. with that portion of light going to sensor and OVF, what's left for the PDAF will even be lesser


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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 22 2010, 11:27 AM)
8tvt : That's why I say I'm looking forward to it. With CURRENT knowledge, there's just too little light for a good OVF but who's to say Sony does not have some kind of revolutionary solution to this issue?

They already implemented a 100% OVF with FF sensor based stabilization that most people say was impossible then.

They came up with the Quick Autofocus Live View.

They came up with the Cobra Action F58.

I wouldn't put it past them to come up with some kinda surprise.
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true that as well..

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what's the reason using EVF?
cost cheaper and maybe make camera lighter?

i notice some cons of it..
-drain more power
-difficult on MF
-some lagging issue

if A77 came with OVF and big battery with other additional features..
surely next move will be manual movie controlling..
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lwliam, shootkk: As per my response to 8tvt, the 30% light loss is tiny.

8tvt: Manual focus with the EVF is a lot easier! It lets you zoom 14x on whatever you are focusing on!

Also, you cannot see the DOF of a F1.4 lens on a regular OVF with a Type G screen. You only see the DOF of a F3.2 lens. Then you shoot and you see eh why the DOF is shallower than what you saw in the OVF? Or why is the picture so underexposed or overexposed? Or why is the picture so orange or blue or magenta or green?

You don't know until you took the picture.

Unless you have an EVF.

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like AF motors and stuffs. SAM SSM all those make me  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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oho.. seems like EVF can preview more accurate like final image..
now it making sense for budget and newbies photog..

but why lcd preview looks bad like not enough light - (forced me not to use it)?
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8tvt: Have you tried the EVF? It is not the same as your A380! The MF Check LV on the A550, at 14x magnification, looks a lot clearer than the A380 with 2x Smart Teleconverter.

If you feel the EVF is dark, pull out the rear LCD screen.

Have you also tried putting the A33 on say your left eye, and the A380 on your right eye at the same time? You can see which one is a lot bigger.

It is a different thing, and a lot, lot clearer.

My Peleng 8mm F3.5 fisheye for example, cannot be focused by eye. I have to estimate the distance to the subject.

On the NEX-5 I can get 14x magnify and get exact, sharp focus.

The EVF with 14x magnification is also good for professional photographers, for example when shooting food, or macro, or using manual focus lenses, or shooting JPG with a custom WB.
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ohh love this discussion.

to make OVF with translucent is NOT hard... all they have to do, add 1 more translucent mirror LOL!

so it goes like this, the ori mirro stay, reflect the rest of image upwards, then using another mirror, have 70% pass through into a prism/OVF, then the reflected from 2nd mirror goes to the AF module! w00t!!!!!!!!!!!


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albnok: i not try the A33, i went to the shop all put inside the glass cabinet..
the only option just read² read..

will try it some other times @ SC..
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I have nothing against an EVF but as of now they still have room to improve. I have tried the A33's EVF and it did not jive with me. I wear glasses and it seems that the EVF is only clear at the center when I peer into the viewfinder. The edges are all blurred. I do not like that. In future maybe they will be better.

Anyways, we are all jumping the gun here. Let's just wait and see what Sony has to offer first. It's gonna rock the digital imaging world I'm sure. Nikon and Canon has no SLT and if the A55 sells really well and the A77 is up to par for a semi-pro class, Nikon and Canon will be scrambling to offer something similar.
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Sep 22 2010, 01:26 PM)
I have nothing against an EVF but as of now they still have room to improve. I have tried the A33's EVF and it did not jive with me. I wear glasses and it seems that the EVF is only clear at the center when I peer into the viewfinder. The edges are all blurred. I do not like that. In future maybe they will be better.
maybe because of the bokeh..
coz EVF can preview most accurate?
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 22 2010, 12:57 PM)
ohh love this discussion.

to make OVF with translucent is NOT hard... all they have to do, add 1 more translucent mirror LOL!

so it goes like this, the ori mirro stay, reflect the rest of image upwards, then using another mirror, have 70% pass through into a prism/OVF, then the reflected from 2nd mirror goes to the AF module! w00t!!!!!!!!!!!
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From what I understand here, is it something like the image below??
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From what I understand here, is it something like the image below??
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 22 2010, 01:40 PM)
maybe because of the bokeh..
coz EVF can preview most accurate?
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No. Definitely not bokeh. The edges become sharp when I look directly at the corners of the viewfinder. It's when I am looking at a subject in the center the edges blur out for me. I'm sure it's something to do with my glasses and the way I'm looking into the viewfinder but I have no problems using an OVF. Perhaps with my glasses in the way, the distance between the eye to the viewfinder is compromised in some way so that I cannot see the whole image clearly... I dunno.
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The current AF SLRs/dSLRs also have 2 mirrors in case anyone doesn't know. Already, the main mirror in an AF SLR/dSLR is half transparent to let light go down to the AF module.

ieR: Well done!

shootkk: Could it be a diopter thing?
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albnok : I dunno. In any case I did not play around with the A33 for long enough to figure it out. Maybe if someone with a A33 or A55 can let me test it out?

Anyone knows how much the 85mm f2.8 SAM will be priced in M'sia? I'm dying to know.
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wow sigma has their own SLR now. this should be quite interesting.


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-46 megapixel 24×16mm APS-C sensor
-Lightweight yet solid magnesium alloy body
-Weather-resistant O-ring sealing connections
-Dual ‘TRUE II' image processing engines
-11 Point Twin Cross AF Sensor

even Sigma also knows the importance of weather-resistant bodies.

and Leica has come out with more cool stuff. biggrin.gif
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sorry a bit out topic, I'm looking for rechargable batteries for flash.
kindly comment on which brand to buy?
sanyo eneloop good enuf?

beh tahan keep buying batteries man
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46 megapixel 24×16mm APS-C sensor
they gotta be kidding, will be high noise right??
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QUOTE(cplow1 @ Sep 22 2010, 02:34 PM)
sorry a bit out topic, I'm looking for rechargable batteries for flash.
kindly comment on which brand to buy?
sanyo eneloop good enuf?

beh tahan keep buying batteries man
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46 megapixel 24×16mm APS-C sensor
they gotta be kidding, will be high noise right??
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waiting for more reviews to judge. laugh.gif

but the body is damn solid.
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So what does the new NEX firmware give, exactly?

http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1285109120.html

Also, tilt-shift adapter for Nikon lenses on NEX bodies!

http://www.lensbaby.com/

shootkk: Under RM1k by the weather.

cplow1: Eneloops can really last.

hiansitt: No it's not really 46 megapixels; it's 3 layers of 15 megapixels each.

zstan: There has been one old Sigma SD body sitting in the display cabinet of YL Camera. One of the earlier Foveon models.

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wow sigma has their own SLR now. this should be quite interesting.
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Image from DP review.

-46 megapixel 24×16mm APS-C sensor
-Lightweight yet solid magnesium alloy body
-Weather-resistant O-ring sealing connections
-Dual ‘TRUE II' image processing engines
-11 Point Twin Cross AF Sensor

even Sigma also knows the importance of weather-resistant bodies.

and Leica has come out with more cool stuff.  biggrin.gif
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this is not Sigma's 1st dSLR.. its that they are not placing most of their resources into making one.. their sensor tech is different in a way that it is as though there are 3 separate sensors for R, G and B...
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so only lenses which have built-in motors can AF right? sigh. means all my current lenses cannot AF on the NEX irregardless got update or not. cry.gif

what lenses can the sigma use? all their lenses produced are for different mounts. do they have their own mount? hmm.gif or it can fit C/S/N mounts altogether? laugh.gif
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zstan: The Sigma mount is an offshoot of the Canon EOS mount - some people have modded their Sigma mount lenses to Canon EF mount.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 22 2010, 02:31 PM)
wow sigma has their own SLR now. this should be quite interesting.
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-46 megapixel 24×16mm APS-C sensor
-Lightweight yet solid magnesium alloy body
-Weather-resistant O-ring sealing connections
-Dual ‘TRUE II' image processing engines
-11 Point Twin Cross AF Sensor

even Sigma also knows the importance of weather-resistant bodies.

and Leica has come out with more cool stuff.  biggrin.gif
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Eh I tot Sigma did have their own SLR already? Just that it's not widely advertised
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If the 85mm f2.8 is really sub RM1k that will be the very next lens I will be getting.
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If the 85mm f2.8 is really sub RM1k that will be the very next lens I will be getting.
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If the 85mm f2.8 is really sub RM1k that will be the very next lens I will be getting.
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Sony not gonna release video light for NEX ka? sad.gif

p/s: i just realised i can't really use BULB mode in my NEX-3. no remote nor shutter release cable laugh.gif

and it's hard to use long shutter too, need to set timer or gamble on pressing the shutter sad.gif
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i thought u aiming 24mm Zeiss?  whistling.gif
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I am aiming for the 24mm Zeiss but that one's almost 3 times the price of the 85mm so it will take 3 times as long, if not longer for me to find the funds to get it. In the mean time, I can be happy with the 85mm f2.8! thumbup.gif laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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Finally yesterday I get to try A33. I think my comment will be mostly similar with those who have tried it:

1. First impression.. WOW smaller than expectation (eventhough i heard of this many time oredi).. but the grip should b quite comfortable (hard to really feel it because of the stupid big cable thing attached below the camera in sonystyle)
2. my finger has a bit problem searching for the front Scroll.. basically need to adjust my holding position in order to reach the scroll..
3. control works fine for me.. easy access to important setting Like WB n ISO.
4. Liveview = cool...maybe I have not really tried out the A550 liveview so this seems to be super cool & new for me.. hehe
5. electronic Viewfinder= First when I look into it, I find it very uncomfortable.. hard to immediately get use to it... when pointing to my friend's face.. it has a weird "red" to it... it just feel very digital..but amazing thing is whatever the liveview lcd can do, the EVF can do it.. Play back etc...WB & all settings. Again... because i so used to OVF it takes a while to get comfortable... But i bet most who bought this camera will rely on the LCD most of the time.
6. Focusing speed is amazing.. test it on walking people and moving my fingers in front of the camera.
7. Couldnt Test the VIDEO.. why cant sony just put a Memory card in it. After all its strong point is VIDEO for this camera
8. I hate the ISO setting Jumping from 800 to 1600 directly (same like my old A100) but nevertheless , Iso 1600 is completely usable.
9. This one I am not too certain.. But i Find focusing a little bit difficult when comes to low contrast object.....example shooting a pea on the table.. the center focusing is aiming quite close at middle of the green pea.. is difficult to focus.. I have to move the focus point to the edge of the peas to get the focus "beep". I believe my A700 can easily handle that.

Will I buy this?? I still not sure...I have to research more about video because this will be a camera which i like to explore on its video capability. The different Battery(heard is weak on A33/55) & memory card compare to my A700 also a thing that hold me back from buying. A quick question: is it only advisable to shoot video using the SSM lens(with autofocus)? so that the focusing transition will not be so erupt ?
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wow..all planning to get a55/a33...lol..i have not see one of them yet.....yet to try... flex.gif
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 22 2010, 03:40 PM)
Finally yesterday I get to try A33. I think my comment will be mostly similar with those who have tried it:

1. First impression.. WOW smaller than expectation (eventhough i heard of this many time oredi).. but the grip should b quite comfortable (hard to really feel it because of the stupid big cable thing attached below the camera in sonystyle)
2. my finger has a bit problem searching for the front Scroll.. basically need to adjust my holding position in order to reach the scroll..
3.  control works fine for me.. easy access to important setting Like WB n ISO.
4.  Liveview = cool...maybe I have not really tried out the A550 liveview so this seems to be super cool & new for me.. hehe
5. electronic Viewfinder= First when I look into it, I find it very uncomfortable.. hard to immediately get use to it... when pointing to my friend's face.. it has a weird "red" to it... it just feel very digital..but amazing thing is whatever the liveview lcd can do, the EVF can do it.. Play back etc...WB & all settings. Again... because i so used to OVF it takes a while to get comfortable... But i bet most who bought this camera will rely on the LCD most of the time.
6. Focusing speed is amazing.. test it on walking people and moving my fingers in front of the camera.
7. Couldnt Test the VIDEO.. why cant sony just put a Memory card in it. After all its strong point is VIDEO for this camera
8. I hate the ISO setting Jumping from 800 to 1600 directly (same like my old A100) but nevertheless , Iso 1600 is completely usable.
9. This one I am not too certain.. But i Find focusing a little bit difficult when comes to low contrast object.....example shooting a pea on the table.. the center focusing is aiming quite close at middle of the green pea.. is difficult to focus.. I have to move the focus point to the edge of the peas to get the focus "beep". I believe my A700 can easily handle that.

Will I buy this?? I still not sure...I have to research more about video because this will be a camera which i like to explore on its video capability. The different Battery(heard is weak on A33/55) & memory card compare to my A700 also a thing that hold me back from buying. A quick question: is it only advisable to shoot video using the SSM lens(with autofocus)? so that the focusing transition will not be so erupt ?
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where did u test it?
man..i want to play with it ASAP but i don't want to go all the way to KLCC

btw, if they put mem card into it..it will be gone after a few minutes if left unattended..that's malaysia for u
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QUOTE(signither @ Sep 22 2010, 03:27 PM)
Sony not gonna release video light for NEX ka? sad.gif

p/s: i just realised i can't really use BULB mode in my NEX-3. no remote nor shutter release cable laugh.gif

and it's hard to use long shutter too, need to set timer or gamble on pressing the shutter sad.gif
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u can mod DIY one.. use a rubber band and lego brick for holding the shutter in place.. utilizing the 2 second timer..

p/s: i just realized my hiccup, how are you going to un-trigger the shutter without making the camera shake? @_@ dang.. back to the drawing board again

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From what I understand here, is it something like the image below??
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no it can be done better,... with PRISM tongue.gif something i have in mind is like this....
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no it can be done better,... with PRISM tongue.gif something i have in mind is like this....
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i think it will lose 0.5-1 stop of light in the OVF for that design.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(clivengu @ Sep 22 2010, 03:40 PM)
Finally yesterday I get to try A33. I think my comment will be mostly similar with those who have tried it:

1. First impression.. WOW smaller than expectation (eventhough i heard of this many time oredi).. but the grip should b quite comfortable (hard to really feel it because of the stupid big cable thing attached below the camera in sonystyle)
2. my finger has a bit problem searching for the front Scroll.. basically need to adjust my holding position in order to reach the scroll..
3.  control works fine for me.. easy access to important setting Like WB n ISO.
4.  Liveview = cool...maybe I have not really tried out the A550 liveview so this seems to be super cool & new for me.. hehe
5. electronic Viewfinder= First when I look into it, I find it very uncomfortable.. hard to immediately get use to it... when pointing to my friend's face.. it has a weird "red" to it... it just feel very digital..but amazing thing is whatever the liveview lcd can do, the EVF can do it.. Play back etc...WB & all settings. Again... because i so used to OVF it takes a while to get comfortable... But i bet most who bought this camera will rely on the LCD most of the time.
6. Focusing speed is amazing.. test it on walking people and moving my fingers in front of the camera.
7. Couldnt Test the VIDEO.. why cant sony just put a Memory card in it. After all its strong point is VIDEO for this camera
8. I hate the ISO setting Jumping from 800 to 1600 directly (same like my old A100) but nevertheless , Iso 1600 is completely usable.
9. This one I am not too certain.. But i Find focusing a little bit difficult when comes to low contrast object.....example shooting a pea on the table.. the center focusing is aiming quite close at middle of the green pea.. is difficult to focus.. I have to move the focus point to the edge of the peas to get the focus "beep". I believe my A700 can easily handle that.

Will I buy this?? I still not sure...I have to research more about video because this will be a camera which i like to explore on its video capability. The different Battery(heard is weak on A33/55) & memory card compare to my A700 also a thing that hold me back from buying. A quick question: is it only advisable to shoot video using the SSM lens(with autofocus)? so that the focusing transition will not be so erupt ?
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no it can be done better,... with PRISM tongue.gif something i have in mind is like this....
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zstan, the 2nd sensor is the PDAF sensor

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zstan : The top one is the AF sensor lar....
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ahhahaha, mabuk d... happy mooncake festival eibadi
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zstan: dont get confused. when it mention that has 1/3stop lost of light, it doesnt mean that 30% goes to reflection(or reflection is only 30% light).... they NEVER mention that reflected angle is how many % of light, from my knowlegde, it could be 100% reflect up, because its reflect, not pass through.

the only pass through is the 2nd mirror into the prism, where it will have lost of 30% light.

evilhumor design may have better because the pass through is into the AF module, and the eye gets the 100% reflection. but do u still wan tiny OVF like A300/550? (penta mirror?)


Added on September 22, 2010, 5:35 pmfor those who celebrate mid autumn fest, wish u guys happy mooncake festival and prepare to shoot moon tonight wor.


Added on September 22, 2010, 5:36 pmEH, why not tonight's pic SPAM, is all about MOON? dont care u use 18mm or 50mm or 800mm.... moon is tonight's spam?

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 22 2010, 04:27 PM)
u can mod DIY one.. use a rubber band and lego brick for holding the shutter in place.. utilizing the 2 second timer..

p/s: i just realized my hiccup, how are you going to un-trigger the shutter without making the camera shake? @_@ dang.. back to the drawing board again
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 22 2010, 05:33 PM)
zstan: dont get confused. when it mention that has 1/3stop lost of light, it doesnt mean that 30% goes to reflection(or reflection is only 30% light).... they NEVER mention that reflected angle is how many % of light, from my knowlegde, it could be 100% reflect up, because its reflect, not pass through.

the only pass through is the 2nd mirror into the prism, where it will have lost of 30% light.

evilhumor design may have better because the pass through is into the AF module, and the eye gets the 100% reflection. but do u still wan tiny OVF like A300/550? (penta mirror?)


Added on September 22, 2010, 5:35 pmfor those who celebrate mid autumn fest, wish u guys happy mooncake festival and prepare to shoot moon tonight wor.


Added on September 22, 2010, 5:36 pmEH, why not tonight's pic SPAM, is all about MOON? dont care u use 18mm or 50mm or 800mm.... moon is tonight's spam?
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signither: You might want one of those new-color NEX-5 bodies LOL.

Also, the video lights are going to be a lot bigger and massively imbalance the camera. Actually there are side-mounted video lights which fit on a flash bracket. That might be a practical idea!

clivengu: You can ask the staff to put in a memory card (or you bring your own.) And the ISO full stops have always been like that on 5-series Alphas and below.

Probably because the A33 doesn't have a wider F2.8 AF point, which catches what is outside the square box in the A700. The F2.8 sensor is bigger in diameter. And yes, SSM is perfect for video on this.

lwliam: Simple!

1) put camera on tripod
2) put black card in front of lens (maybe using Cokin holder)
3) put lego brick on and hold it with rubber band
4) remove black card
5) put black card back on
6) remove rubber band and lego brick
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 22 2010, 06:26 PM)
signither: You might want one of those new-color NEX-5 bodies LOL.

Also, the video lights are going to be a lot bigger and massively imbalance the camera. Actually there are side-mounted video lights which fit on a flash bracket. That might be a practical idea!

clivengu: You can ask the staff to put in a memory card (or you bring your own.) And the ISO full stops have always been like that on 5-series Alphas and below.

Probably because the A33 doesn't have a wider F2.8 AF point, which catches what is outside the square box in the A700. The F2.8 sensor is bigger in diameter. And yes, SSM is perfect for video on this.

lwliam: Simple!

1) put camera on tripod
2) put black card in front of lens (maybe using Cokin holder)
3) put lego brick on and hold it with rubber band
4) remove black card
5) put black card back on
6) remove rubber band and lego brick
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cokin, unless you got a 49mm convertor, coz its NEX we're talking about here.. but you'll still be touching the camera before the card entirely closes the scene. just slapping on a black card at the front element of the lens will do...

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happy mid-autumn festival to all my alpha kakis.... rclxms.gif

hope tonight got big bright full moon.. tongue.gif
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it just rained in the aftnoon...so tonight the skies should be clear (hopefully)
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 22 2010, 06:18 PM)
budak nihhhh......
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 22 2010, 06:26 PM)
signither: You might want one of those new-color NEX-5 bodies LOL.

Also, the video lights are going to be a lot bigger and massively imbalance the camera. Actually there are side-mounted video lights which fit on a flash bracket. That might be a practical idea!
maybe, or maybe wait for a FF NEX laugh.gif

i'm leaning to the idea of getting a side-mounted video lights at the moment. maybe gonna get one from eBay or something. nod.gif

QUOTE(lwliam @ Sep 22 2010, 06:42 PM)
cokin, unless you got a 49mm convertor, coz its NEX we're talking about here.. but you'll still be touching the camera before the card entirely closes the scene. just slapping on a black card at the front element of the lens will do...
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nice idea. slapping would do just fine. i got a Cokin P Holder with 49mm ring for my NEX dy, maybe try both later. rolleyes.gif

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