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freddy manson
post Oct 5 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 5 2010, 07:46 PM)
+1.. If i were to buy a camera now it'll be NEX / a33 / a55. =D i support sony cuz i rly think they will beat nikons and canons one day. =)
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Oh didn't u hear? Sony already did that.. Oh man.. U're lost? *joke*

QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 5 2010, 09:55 PM)
If compare EPL-1 with NEX I can say, NEX wins in many aspect like screen resolution (poor 200k versus 912k screen resolution), megapixels (12 MP vs 14 MP), ISO Performance, control dial (EPL does have any wheel dial) and more ticker size and price

The only pros over NEX is the hotshoe mount, Built-In IS and more flexible AF lens of choice
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The iso performance is really, really outstanding


Added on October 5, 2010, 10:41 pm
QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 5 2010, 07:46 PM)
+1.. If i were to buy a camera now it'll be NEX / a33 / a55. =D i support sony cuz i rly think they will beat nikons and canons one day. =)
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Oh didn't u hear? Sony already did that.. Oh man.. U're lost? *joke*

QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 5 2010, 09:55 PM)
If compare EPL-1 with NEX I can say, NEX wins in many aspect like screen resolution (poor 200k versus 912k screen resolution), megapixels (12 MP vs 14 MP), ISO Performance, control dial (EPL does have any wheel dial) and more ticker size and price

The only pros over NEX is the hotshoe mount, Built-In IS and more flexible AF lens of choice
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The iso performance is really, really outstanding

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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:27 PM)
do u guys still rmb this post??
well, it's sort of...being rumored for a77 - http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr2-sony-a7...parent-mirrors/
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they curi tengok here issit? LOL that was my idea (Blekk).. sadly i didnt patented it on time... LOL, else i will be rich for sony paying me... or... all i wan a A77 prototype before launch... LOL


Added on October 5, 2010, 11:13 pmbtw, the drawing is ALL wrong. as i mention earlier, reflection is 100%, reflection do not filter out light, unless is passthrough, then only result in 30% lost of light. the diagram sucks so much because, who the hell wan a EVF+OVF? might just use EVF la, why all the trouble to filter out more light before reaching the AF sensor?

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post Oct 5 2010, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 09:11 PM)
any reason? coz i told my bro Nex but he say Nex no hotshoe and soft...
so i also want to know more about both these contenders base on users feedback
(if i wanted online sources id have asked mr.google)
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once handled the NEX and the EPL1, really can convince myself to take EPL1
the feel is totally different
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nex has outstanding iso, it doesnt need hotshoe for flash,.... and sooner or later, they will have replacement with even better iso.... m43rd if they pack more sensor diode, it will eventually has more noise (due to the packed diodes) compare to APS-C size sensor
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post Oct 5 2010, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 5 2010, 11:10 PM)
they curi tengok here issit? LOL that was my idea (Blekk).. sadly i didnt patented it on time... LOL, else i will be rich for sony paying me... or... all i wan a A77 prototype before launch... LOL


Added on October 5, 2010, 11:13 pmbtw, the drawing is ALL wrong. as i mention earlier, reflection is 100%, reflection do not filter out light, unless is passthrough, then only result in 30% lost of light. the diagram sucks so much because, who the hell wan a EVF+OVF? might just use EVF la, why all the trouble to filter out more light before reaching the AF sensor?
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the EVF+OVF is to satisfy the two groups of ppl who either love or hate the current a33/55

i would think OVF plus electronic details of EVF on it is not a bad idea
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 09:06 PM)
i appreciate your thorough and detailed input.
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here's the discussion
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...35924399&page=1

reanalyzing the scenario, i found that the discussion ended 2 months plus ago and no other discussion on it came back
i wonder if the v2 firmware did anything (such as improved power management) to overcome the issue?
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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 5 2010, 11:17 PM)
nex has outstanding iso, it doesnt need hotshoe for flash,.... and sooner or later, they will have replacement with even better iso.... m43rd if they pack more sensor diode, it will eventually has more noise (due to the packed diodes) compare to APS-C size sensor
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+1, my flash just use one for testing.
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post Oct 5 2010, 11:54 PM

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after looking online and all...i think nex would be a safer bet (with me being a sony user).. yes some might call me a fanboy.. so be it...

thanks for the input on my inquiry... happy.gif

gosh, now i really want a nex. sad.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 01:48 PM)
jimon: if you want me to do a comparison then i can show you both photos from both lenses...
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I guess there's no need. You guys have convinced me, thanks. I'll stick with my 18-55 for now. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Oct 5 2010, 11:23 PM)
the EVF+OVF is to satisfy the two groups of ppl who either love or hate the current a33/55

i would think OVF plus electronic details of EVF on it is not a bad idea
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but u see... the OVF of that design, is no diff from A300 small OVF ler... u know why A700,850,900 or D90 and 550D has large OVF? because they uses penta prism.... but which that design, without pentaprism, no matter how u say it, it will not satisfied a OVF group.
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just sharing.. gearhead:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


this guy just bought a d90 2-3 months ago...
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post Oct 6 2010, 01:06 AM

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Share share~~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MardQiu-3wg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgu3J1SXn2I


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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 6 2010, 12:48 AM)
just sharing.. gearhead:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


this guy just bought a d90 2-3 months ago...
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U might want to copy paste it... Non-friend can't look at the wallstory

How to make these videos appear??~ youtube tag gives white boxes~

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 6 2010, 12:48 AM)
just sharing.. gearhead:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


this guy just bought a d90 2-3 months ago...
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i think that person is a friend to my friend la...need to reconfirm back....

p/s : confirmed already...the fella is a friend to my friend's little brother...

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post Oct 6 2010, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Oct 6 2010, 01:06 AM)
Share share~~





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MardQiu-3wg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgu3J1SXn2I


Added on October 6, 2010, 1:07 am

U might want to copy paste it... Non-friend can't look at the wallstory

How to make these videos appear??~ youtube tag gives white boxes~

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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 5 2010, 03:15 PM)
zstan: Could use a better isolated picture.

jim0n: Honestly, no.

mastering89: The Minolta 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 does not have the macro power of the Sigma 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Macro. (I've dissassembled one before.)

Batmaninkl: You have to try it with a card inside.

johnmeng: Sorry lah not nice. sad.gif There should be less of that look in the trees!

shootkk: You can also be damn near to the bride and groom wih a wide-angle lens when that happens. Or have a second photographer keep tabs on them.
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it's ok smile.gif your comment will help me a lot

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post Oct 6 2010, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Oct 6 2010, 01:06 AM)





U might want to copy paste it... Non-friend can't look at the wallstory

How to make these videos appear??~ youtube tag gives white boxes~
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haha its nothing la... just he got a d90 a few months back and now d7000 out he say d90 sucks. sweat.gif

i think ur video should work now...

i teach u.lol... just copy the end characters after the '=' sign
(eg. MardQiu-3wg)
then you put the youtube thing...

Here:

(YOUTUBE)MardQiu-3wg(/YOUTUBE)
but of course with square brackets ie. []


hazril: owh i see... i knew this guy also... used to be in the same KDU campus until they bought/rent the new one in section 13 pj.

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post Oct 6 2010, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 11:54 PM)
after looking online and all...i think nex would be a safer bet (with me being a sony user).. yes some might call me a fanboy.. so be it...

thanks for the input on my inquiry... happy.gif

gosh, now i really want a nex. sad.gif
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Mikeshashimi, which nex will you prefer? nex5 or nex3? i have been poisoned too.. now think of sell out my digital cam first then top up to get it.... whistling.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(Anly @ Oct 6 2010, 07:38 AM)
Mikeshashimi, which nex will you prefer? nex5 or nex3? i have been poisoned too.. now think of sell out my digital cam first then top up to get it....  whistling.gif  doh.gif
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in my own opinion la... id prefer the nex3 because to me i feel that:

1) i dont need the 1080p video
2) the plastic (Polycarbonate) on the nex3 is of very good quality (as opposed to the magnesium alloy bodied nex5)
3) i personally feel that the nex3 feels better in my hands than the nex5 (its all personal preference here)
4) with the price gap, i would rather get the A-E adapter
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 6 2010, 07:42 AM)
in my own opinion la... id prefer the nex3 because to me i feel that:

1) i dont need the 1080p video
2) the plastic (Polycarbonate) on the nex3 is of very good quality (as opposed to the magnesium alloy bodied nex5)
3) i personally feel that the nex3 feels better in my hands than the nex5 (its all personal preference here)
4) with the price gap, i would rather get the A-E adapter
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A-E adapter cost rm599?? but i like the design of nex5 more..look more like a dslr style... nex3 more to the digital cam design tongue.gif ..so are u getting it soonner or later??? i am stuck with a55 or nex now.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Anly @ Oct 6 2010, 07:50 AM)
A-E adapter cost rm599??  but i like the design of nex5 more..look more like a dslr style... nex3 more to the digital cam design  tongue.gif ..so are u getting it soonner or later??? i am stuck with a55 or nex now..  doh.gif
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maybe.. if i can collect the required sum of money... smile.gif definitely ill get the nex3 instead of the nex5... smile.gif or unless i can get a good offer...

if its between the nex5 and a55... then id definitely go with the a55... for obvious reasons. rclxms.gif

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