wow ..big pond.I am just curious, if you were to place big gar in those pond..the only thing you get to see are its upper portion of its body.i have the opinion that you should brick up and place thicked glass/fibreglass on one side.this way..you can enjoy the sight of gar slither through water.to top that up...you get to increase the depth.

I know what you mean but that's not my pond bro. That belongs to ivanchua.

But what you're suggesting is definitely possible; its a matter of preference I'd say.

But depth is not something that ivanchua's pond lacks.

thats quite a big pond, but i dont think its monster fish pond or monster pond.....

too bad i left my camera at pimpins place, took loads of pic of his ponds.... pls bring me back my camera bro!!!!

38k gallons is big... but the dimension a bit salah....

bro pimpin, i mean fishpin, (*&^%$#@!!@#$%^&* sama lu bertubi tubi....
cement pond besar and banyak tapi letak ikan puyu banyak banyak....
can masuk book of records edi you.... taruk ikan puyu dalam pond besar....

tapi dig new big pond and buy only 2 arapaima... fit la thousands on them like your ikan puyu pond....
if for feeder fish then ok la, tapi ikan puyu..... cis!!!!! see those thousands of puyu also jelak....
somemore your puyu cucuk my fingers, bleed.... never say sorry nvm, but you LOL at me some more....

dowan sell u fish edi....

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=E0KI70FK - i am not sure if its legal to paste this here but its a documentary on river monster - goliath tiger fish

This post has been edited by akidos: Dec 19 2010, 11:24 PM

agree with you about place a thicked glass on the side...im sure this pond not for koi fish

any one know what fish it is?


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Ive seen it before.. someone selling on mudah.my o.o Ill try to dig out... but the seller mentioned its from Amazon,USA << wtf

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Added on December 20, 2010, 1:56 pmCould it be agamyxis pectinifrons?
someone selling: http://www.mudah.my/Fossil+like+Cat+Fish+f...ort-7861257.htm


This post has been edited by BenSow: Dec 20 2010, 01:56 PM

BenSow

Wah how come I got 6 primitive fishes also never update me into your list on first page. Hurt my feelings already; ruined my day LOL
Guess I should tell ggMing not to hire you during school holidays since staff got devoured by one of the fishes.

ggMing


I understood about 30% of your post; are you drunk LOL

In all seriousness though, what's this superstition that's associated with puyu? Some people say it "prevents black magic" while some say it causes "discontent". Just curious what people think about this.

Btw, your camera isn't here bro. You left a netbook at my place but no charger but no camera?

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Added on December 20, 2010, 4:08 pmakidos

I've got River Monsters on DVD; Seasons 1 & 2. Everything from the Arapaima to the Gars to Sturgeons to the legendary AMF (Annoying Mamak Fish LOL)

I'll leave it at Punk's shop?

This post has been edited by [PIMPIN]: Dec 20 2010, 04:14 PM

D: TV one not nice.. keep watching the same one over and over again..

I'm definitely down with taht but I couldn't find any supplier around my area that could source 2" acrylic curve-to-my-pref glass like those you see aquaria. Heck, some don't even know what acrylic is. I'd have call it monster tank if I'd be able to get the glass but I'm pretty much settled on the design so it's going to be a concrete pond for now.



how is it salah? did you just seemingly use your vast wisdom to 'assume' that im building a pond with the dimension that youre imagining? holy crap man.. ive totally lost all my respect for you after reading this. You of all the people. seriously. geeesh !!11! p/s how many successful pond have you constructed again?

On your monster pond definition, to each his own. If 150ton pond is not monster maybe I should dig me a friggin 1 acre lake and call it a pond.

Pimp, I saw your tentative pond design on mfk, if that does realize, I'd want to visit your place someday.

actually i kinda agree with him... maybe its my brain not good enough but i tto think that its not 38k gallons.. no offence bro..

Actually faced same problem regarding acrylic. A lot of responses tend to be "use glass is better" which I interpreted as "I don't know any better". I guess there is a general misconception that acrylic is inferior for some reason despite all public aquariums using only acrylic. I came across this company Hydrosight who apparently have done work locally for Aquatica Kota Kinabalu.

Personally I don't know them but came across them for work purposes. I noticed they supply thick, oversize acrylic panels for swimming pools so I'm guessing they do large and small orders. Just thought it could be useful but it seems like you're pretty much set on the present configuration.

What's the finishing like? Tiles? Are you sticking to a natural tone?

Your brain is probably still fresh from PMR bro. We last sat for exams a few Prime Ministers ago LOL.
But there are online calculators which pretty much anyone could use.
But before disputing, perhaps could ascertain if ivanchua is referring to US or UK gallons - although not massive difference should at least make sure on same page, talking about same thing first.

its a catfish, "doradid" of some sort

@ivanchua
chill bro....people are just voicing their opinion

after putting your pond pic ,i did some calculation based on my observation(simple math...i am long away from high school..lol).Fact is ,the calculation doesn't add up(the calculation was based on my estimation on the height of the pond which is about 8 feet, from there i did give my best estimation of the width and length).

based on you claim so far...i attribute the error to the angle of the photograph.

also it is possible,you didn't factor in actual size(after putting brick and thick layer of cement on both the 4 side and bottom)

just my 2 cents

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Added on December 20, 2010, 6:53 pm@ggming,
about the ikan puyu..lol

you should have been warned by pimpin(whack him!)

if you must know,i used to have 45cm length chinese soft-shelled turtle.it was kept with ikan puyu
you know how good appetite the turtle have! it love flesh(i mean meat ,not another flesh)
the puyu survive along with the turtle, of course the former passed away from 'kebuluran' coz all food is eaten by the turtle.
haha

This post has been edited by Rainman84: Dec 20 2010, 06:53 PM

If it was 8 feet deep, it would have to be something like 40'x20' to get just over 38k gallons UK but 47k gallons US. It's really no point trying to guess the dimensions based on the photograph. I'm pretty sure ivanchua won't mind sharing dimensions and also whether he means imperial or US gallons.

But Rainman84 does have a valid point regarding the actual volume. When people build a pond say 6ft deep, the water level isn't 6ft because you wouldn't fill it to the brim right? This is something I've always wondered about because personally, when I calculate I always subtract about 0.5' or so for height of pond. As for width, do you measure from edges of the pond or the inside edges of the pond? This is a general question though; not about ivanchua's pond but just what is the generally accepted way of measuring.

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Added on December 20, 2010, 7:09 pmHahahah but there's nothing but puyu in that one pond. I have no idea how many there are; do they multiply like rabbits? Put in a few thousand fry a few years ago. Personally, I haven't caught anything from that pond as I'm not into fishing all that much.

This post has been edited by [PIMPIN]: Dec 20 2010, 07:09 PM

like any fish, they are produce eggs..a lot too...but given that most of local fish are omnivore..they are not picky eater.
few thousand in a pond is too tight for comfort..yeah they'll savor the egg akin to caviar.
they are called climbing perch(armed with spike allow it TRAVEL by land)so i am not sure how many you have left in there.usually people who rear puyu in a container keep it in such a way that the rim of the vessel and water level >30cm(juara lompat tinggi)

@ivanchua

say what you want agro...i dont need your respect, i just commented its kinda salah and you already conclude and assume im using my vast wisdom before i explain... u might lose your respect for me, but i dont need them, but what you replied, a lot already lose respect on you...

LIGHT TRAVELS FASTER THAN SOUND, THAT IS WHY SOME MAY APPEAR BRIGHT UNTIL YOU HEAR THEM SPEAK, THEN YOU'LL NOTICE NOTHING BUT AN INSUFFICIENT TALENTED FOOL!



This post has been edited by ggMing: Dec 20 2010, 10:22 PM

The pond is L-shaped, the longer part is 45'x20'x10' while the shorter part of the L is just over 1/3 of that. This one I'm planning to redo keeping the 45'x20'x10' and using the 'leg' of the L to house the filtration system. Would mean breaking the current cement pond structure and starting from scratch so won't be anytime soon as I've yet to link two existing ponds there and have to wait for drought season before starting any form of excavation.

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Added on December 20, 2010, 10:40 pm



Is this the proper way of measuring fish? Doesn't seem to be the most accurate way of going about it.

This post has been edited by [PIMPIN]: Dec 20 2010, 10:40 PM

lol i believe any way that does not harm the fish is a good way to measure fish if not accurate oso wont too melampau right...

Of course the last thing anyone wants is to harm the fish but the ruler isn't even in the water to begin with? Shouldn't it at least be as close to the fish lengthwise to begin with or use a piece of string and stretch over the top of the fish? I'm not being critical but I see people measure various ways so I thought I'd ask; this being a discussion forum and all. The Gar I've got doesn't seem to mind being held in the water if you want to keep it still for example and doesn't struggle until it senses you're about to pull it out of the water. So probably could use those measuring trays that Koi enthusiasts use; like a mini tank with a ruler on the inside of it so you just hold fish in place.


Even the larger Gar that ggMing posted was OK with human contact so long as you don't try to put your hands around the fish. If you gently held fish against the side of the tank it seems to be ok; not for long but certainly long enough to stretch a string from head to tail. Again, like the smaller ones I've noticed that when it senses you're about to lift it out of the water it'll struggle. Not that I'd recommend handling fishes frequently but some people do keep growth records, etc and I suppose a monthly thing wouldn't hurt - the fish would probably get used to it. I'm still learning though, new to the hobby so I guess every detail sort of leads to a question.