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post Sep 29 2012, 02:47 PM

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Finally 1kg package of Hikari Massivore Delite arrived

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Life costs @ less than 10 cents per unit sweat.gif

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Frozen Bloodworm

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Why so quiet nowadays?
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post Sep 29 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Sep 29 2012, 06:02 PM)
where did you buy them?
Hikari JB.
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post Sep 29 2012, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Sep 29 2012, 07:43 PM)
you cant get them from selangor or KL area?
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I live in KB so i have no choice sweat.gif
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post Sep 30 2012, 05:58 PM

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Polypterus Endlicheri 12" @ rm280. Another tankmate for Frankenstein smile.gif

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She gets along very well. Been caught 'cuddling in the bushes' brows.gif

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post Oct 2 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 11:05 AM)
Helo guys. Newbie here. Been following this thread for a while. Just want to say i'm just fallen in love with this monster. about 3 weeks ago. Huhu. Currently got 1 spotted gar. 2 bichir ( 1 got cross on his head ) . thanks. Planning to add 1 yelow back arowana soon.
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U must plan a very big tank for ur gar soon, cuz that guy really grows very fast. About ur bichirs, what type are they? Mind to share ur tank's pic?

Update of my Bichirs

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post Oct 2 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 11:24 AM)
Huhu. Mine were 3footer. the one with cross is marbled type I think. Dark blue in colour. Huhu. Later i'll post.
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All i can say, that gar can outgrow ur tank in a short while. This gar from mudah.my sized 29" sweat.gif

Link : http://www.mudah.my/Alligator+gar+atractos...a+-18108465.htm
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post Oct 2 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 11:35 AM)
Mine's long nose one. huhu. Not aligator. Ur is 6ft???
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My tank is just 5x2x2.

Is this ur sp? Long Nose Spotted Gar is it?

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post Oct 2 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 11:57 AM)
Huhu. Yeah. I think thats the one. btw here's a vid of my tank. sori. I'm very noob on aquarium. Dont know how to set up my tank. Plant. Sand. Etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZaWXmIKQGs&feature=plcp


Added on October 2, 2012, 12:01 pmHow do I started eh??? Can I just take sand,gravel etc from river and put it in my tank?? I have ask a lot of shop. But they don seem to sell those sand or soil. Im from kluang, johor btw. Thanksss. :-)
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U shouldnt take sand or gravels from rivers, since they might contain unwanted elements. U dont want strange creatures lurking in ur aquarium later. Buy gravels from local shops, they should have variety of choice.

Important I think mixing plecos or any sucker fish is a really bad idea. Even in the video we can see the pleco sucking on bichir's body. Pity them bro.

At a glance, i think ur bichirs are endlicheri & senegalus, perhaps.
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post Oct 2 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 12:30 PM)
Noted bro. Will put those pleco away asap. Huhu. I
thought they were cleaning those bichir. Yes. U r rite. Senegal is cheap. But the endlicheri is pretty pricey.( or I am being conned?) Most shop here sell those colourful gravel n I hate them.
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Yeah endlicheri is the most pricey i think.

Me too i dont like colourful gravel, they dont look natural. One more thing is, bichirs love to hide, so they really appreciate hiding spots like woods, tunnels or big rocks or plants.

BTW what u feed them?

*I always use plastic plants, cuz my turtle will damage natural plants real fast biggrin.gif

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post Oct 2 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 12:48 PM)
Huhu. Rite now I just give them small fish. I've put pallet but they seems just to ignore it. Huhu. Maybe i'll train them later to accept pallet. Haha the senegal always eat like hell till their body looks like exploding. Will put rock later. N wood. And plastic plant. Dun have much time. Only free on weekend. :-(


Added on October 2, 2012, 12:59 pm3ft tank is sufficient?? Do the size of the tank will affect the fish growth rate??
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Ur senegalus eats pellet or feeder fish? He seems very active smile.gif U should try bloodworms as a treat. I think all fishes like BW.
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post Oct 2 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 02:06 PM)
Feeder fish???i giv them rm1 longkang guppy fish only. Bloodworm the one that is freezed??
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Yeah longkang fish. In my case goldfish which costs less than 10cents.

Yeah frozen bloodworms. Even my turtle likes it very much!

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post Oct 2 2012, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 2 2012, 07:13 PM)
will definitely give them this weekend. huhu. now i am 100 km away from them..  sweat.gif
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Thats quite far a distance. Nvm, this hobby can wait. As long as u can get someone to feed ur fishes at home, they should do good.
It took me sometime to update my tank as well (and other former tanks before). Will post pics later if i hv the time.

QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Oct 2 2012, 07:34 PM)
3ft can only housed ur senegalus well but endli is king sized.
Mine a few inches already can see significant growth. So imagine it stuck in ur 3ft after a few years?

Plecos dont commed well with birchirs. They kill birchirs slowly. Given a few months, birchirs become gar food.
Get driftwood and PVC to create hidey holes.
Wrapped ur tank (3 sides) with black papers, bottom need red paper or red substrate. Then use red lighting. All these will make their markings more significant.

Senegalus takes pellets well. Train it. Lower cost compared to live feeders
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True true.. Thats why i dont have plecos, although i really like L26 and L46 very much.

Thanks about the background paper's tips. Got the idea now maybe will try later.

*Really enjoyed watching Senegalus in Kejong86's video. I realized its more active than Endlicheri. Err.. maybe i should get one too tongue.gif
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post Oct 2 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Oct 2 2012, 11:18 PM)
sorry, noob question:
oscar + birchir = ok?
oscar bout 10"++ size. birchir EE maybe 11"

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I think i watched a video in youtube before, a community tank mixing oscar & bichirs & other sps.

U can try in youtube. Good luck.
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post Oct 3 2012, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Oct 3 2012, 07:19 AM)
It's a risk. Oscar is very territorial. Mine even bullied fishes bigger than him.
So make sure ur tank is very large, and he can have his share of territory.
If not, small polys will be tortured till death do them apart brows.gif
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Hm risky.. risky.. Personally i wont bet against that.
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post Oct 3 2012, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Oct 3 2012, 07:54 AM)
uhh....so i just stuck with a school of silver raboras la then with her since they still dindt get eaten yet?
smile.gif  <--- muka hampa

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Silver Rasbora, is it this fish? Or silver shark?

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 3 2012, 10:14 AM)
Thanks guys. For all the tip. :-) .argh I dun wan my bichir to become the gar food. Maybe I will start to collect bichir only. I t is my destiny. Lol.  but I oso love the gar. :'(
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I think we're in the same boat here. I wanna keep gars too, but scared they'll outgrow my tank very soon. Bichirs are bottom dwellers, and could be quite boring sometimes. So i think my tank need another surface fish, preferably the active ones.

Do u guys think arowana is a good choice to house with Bichirs?

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post Oct 3 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 3 2012, 10:22 AM)
Antzz. My time with them is max 10 days only in a month. Huhu .luckily my little bro shared same interest as me. He is the one who taking care of them.

Its ok, as i said earlier, this hobby can wait. Ure lucky to have a brother who shares the same interest. Lets take it that way. Cheers.


QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 3 2012, 10:22 AM)
Yeah. I'm also thinking of arowana. Ok. This weekend. My gar will have to start to learn to take care of itself in the wild. Gunung lambak. Here I come!!!

Seriously? AFAIK, releasing a gar in the wild is prohibited, as it may threat local SPs.

I suggest u not to do it. U can just trade in with LFS owners when buying another fish. He'll offer low price, of course. But u get a win-win situation. The fish also will have a new owner.
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post Oct 3 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Oct 3 2012, 10:37 AM)
yup, it is, i got a total of 11 fishes in there, making a nice schooling fish... smile.gif
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School of fish always make a wonderful view rclxms.gif

I would like to find tiger barbs too

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 3 2012, 11:38 AM)
Huhu. I might try trading the gars first. Anntz what kind of turtle?? u add turtle the same tank with ur fish?? The turtle can survive on deep water?? I'm thinking to add crayfish.
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Flyriver Turtle (FRT) or Pignosed Turtle. Can see pics here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1409358/+2440

Its a fully aquatic turtle so should be no problem.

Can study details here http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/Care/care...iver_turtle.htm
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post Oct 3 2012, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 3 2012, 02:51 PM)
Aha. How about deep frying my gar??? Anyone ever tasted them before?? :-o
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Will not eat my own pet fish.

I think u still can keep it for few months before trading it. U can get higher price + experience of keeping it.
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post Oct 3 2012, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 3 2012, 07:29 PM)
Ur turtle look great man. Is it expensive? LFS near me only sell those normal turtle. :-o
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Its hard to find now. Even if u find in some LFS, they just put on display, and may not sell it. Yeah its quite pricey. I bought mine since 2008, still baby FRT at RM100. He was about this size

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I have seen FRT priced more than rm1k in LFS before. I was told that The Sultan himself bought FRTs as his pet, beside Arapaimas and other SPs.
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post Oct 3 2012, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(kejong86 @ Oct 3 2012, 08:13 PM)
Woohoo man. Super cute. Huhu. So pricey. No no for me. :-( .last week saw 1 arapaimas selling for rm 380.. Size about 5 to 8 inch I think. The fish looks super aggresive. Restless. Dark gold-green in colour.. what tank suit them?? 20 ft..?? lol..
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If u can find baby FRT, i'd say go for them. Otherwise the price will be very pricey. They are vulnerable species as well, and protected by CITES sweat.gif

I think aquarist shouldnt get arapaima unless they have a pond or a very large tank.

I'm studying about Spotted Gar (Lepisosteus oculatus). Being smallest of gars family, even they can grow up to 2-3' sweat.gif

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Update of my Bichirs, last nite both of them finishes 10 feeder fishes, ALL clear flex.gif

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This gal is really a monster eater

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