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Cheesenium
post Sep 23 2010, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(GreaseMonkey90 @ Sep 23 2010, 08:38 AM)
nobody wants to buy my m17x??? lulz....
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Why ar? Are you selling yours?

Im looking for a new gaming laptop, but max budget, hopefully, 6k. laugh.gif
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Sep 23 2010, 09:12 AM)
Greasemonkey buying sager with GTX 480m SLi. tongue.gif
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Nice.

QUOTE(GreaseMonkey90 @ Sep 23 2010, 12:34 PM)
im selling for $3500
yeap. very dissapointed with AW/dell.
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Thats out of my budget. sad.gif

Whats wrong with AW/Dell?
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post Sep 23 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Sep 23 2010, 03:04 PM)
if u could wait for Dell AW to update with fermi and take ur time to make comparison with g53/73jw. Dell is like that abit slowpoke in updating. laugh.gif
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I think Dell's one is probably way more expensive than Asus.

Thinking of getting G73JH.
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post Sep 23 2010, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(putochip123 @ Sep 23 2010, 05:42 PM)
u must compare the material used by dell what. dont just judge by spec
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How good is Dell's material compare to Asus then?

I have a M1530, it's pretty decent but in my experience, Asus use better materials.
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post Sep 23 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Sep 23 2010, 06:55 PM)
nope. can't compare M1530 with Alienware. those are two different league. Alienware's material is the best that i'd ever use. but the downside is - its weight.
thanks Lee for the link.

price is sweet too. hmmm...~
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Just wondering, can i even get an Alienware with +/- 6k?
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post Sep 23 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Sep 23 2010, 08:37 PM)
why not? blush.gif

when you willing to buy?
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Probably, like now, or around december.

Any chance for new hardware to come?
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post Sep 23 2010, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Sep 23 2010, 10:32 PM)
if you can wait till Q1 2011 will be better. maybe Dell will put GTX400M Series into their beast. most likely they will, if you ask me smile.gif
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Ah, thanks.

Maybe i'll wait for a while then. I need to see G53's performance too.
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post Oct 30 2010, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Oct 30 2010, 09:49 AM)
Disagree me on what?
I sure did noticed the low pole-rate touchpad when I got my M15x.
Yeah they fixed it. Took them long enough though.

Your point?

Anyway, I think comparing a semi-defect touchpad which can be easily fixed by using a mouse, and a hinge that is going to fail easily, not too fair is it?
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That just laptops. Every one of them have issues, especially when it first came out. Dont buy the first revision, wait for it to mature first only buy.

Regardless what you buy, it always have issues. The only difference is how severe it is.
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post Oct 30 2010, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 30 2010, 03:28 PM)
i am too tired to enter such a serious discussion like this, burden with assignment and reports sad.gif

what i able to conclude is - Dell well known about this matter, thats why they willing to cover within their warranty. its not easy to suddenly stop the production due to this minor error (compared to Nvidia 8 Series, for example) where they can fix it after the purchase. and to repair the root of this matter, you need to directly do some modification on factory that located in China. maybe they doing it right now, so what you can do it bear the problem. if thats too difficult for you, don't into it.

yes, it just as simple as that.

i did read your argument about how if the problem occur during presentation and in some sort of island. see it this way ;
- you expect that problem, so you don't really shocked.
- Dell can fix it FOC
- Dell come to your desire location (not till island of course) and you don't have to start the engine to head to KL center.

alright for example you did brought Asus over M11x. and similar problem occur.
- you don't expect any problem will occur, so you will be extremely pissed since you thought only M11x is problematic (lulz)
- you might have to pay for it.
- say goodbye for your time and tolls. not to mention your petrol money as well.

no i not a fanboy. professionalism is the way i roll. i am just use my logic before i judge something, not just emotional expression.
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I doubt Asus will charge for warranty claims. Still, on the bottom line, dont expect your laptop to be 100% problem free.

There is bound to be problems through the life span of the laptop.
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post Nov 1 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Nov 1 2010, 12:39 AM)
You guys still on this benchmark thingy? - -
What I want is real live performance in game, not a goddamned chart and figures lol.

Better driver is the only thing thats tempting me lol.
And physx..Nah.
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Benchmark is one of the most reliable of seeing how good is a GC.

Real life performance is pretty expected to be awesome.

460M GTX pawns on DX11, while 5870 still excel on Dx9 and DX10. Considering the number of DX11 games in the market, 5870 still get my vote.
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post Nov 2 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Nov 2 2010, 05:17 PM)
kindly wait at least 2 weeks more to see if any of the NBR member did that. and if those daredevil successfully done that, its a greenlight for other M15x around the world.
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Those people are insane, as they dare to tear apart their G73 just to do repaste. Tearing apart a G73 is hard as hell. I think my turn is inevitable, unless my Amazon model has done repasting with OCZ or IC7 on it without me knowing.

Practise on my M1530 first.
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post Nov 2 2010, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Nov 2 2010, 05:29 PM)
i called 'em daredevil for a reason laugh.gif

besides that, only Sager and Alienware (M17x especially) are easy to tear them apart...
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How about M15x? MSI G660?

I know Clevo's laptop, which is the same as Sager uses are easy as chips to take off.

Dont know why Asus wants to make life so hard. Im quite scared to see mine when it needs a repaste.
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post Nov 2 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Nov 2 2010, 05:39 PM)
hmm from what i heard, Asus thermal-job is bad. you need to personally crack that beast up to reapply with better thermalpaste. cooling affect after repaste is quite significant...
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There is one thing i hate Asus: They are not very consistent in terms of the quality. G73 built is good, solid and tough. Keyboard is comfortable. Screen is just fantastic, as it even beat my external monitor in terms of contrast till i abandon it. Great cooling and performance. At the same time, some of the really retarded stuff like no multimedia or volume control buttons at all, bad thermal job, vBIOS issue (quite easy to fix), the position of the USB ports and the ear phone jack.

Im taking this laptop to learn more stuff, as disassembling laptops does takes a lot of skill. I like to see laptop's interiors to see how they work. So, not really an issue to me.

The thermal job is bad. Thats why i might order a bottle of IC7 just to prepare. And repaste my old laptop so that i can idle at TF2.It's not that hard if i follow the instruction, but going back is tough.

I just wonder how will those who never heard NBR will survive with a G73. Thats my only regret for getting G73. And damn Alienware just announced 460M GTX after 3 days i bought my G73. doh.gif

On the other hand, I think overheating happens to every laptop, especially after you use it for 2 years as the default thermal paste has worn out. My old Dell also overheats like mad too.You wont believe that how crappy is the thermal pad. Looks like someone just put some chewing gum between your GPU and heat sink.

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post Nov 2 2010, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Nov 2 2010, 05:51 PM)
they can survive, but with high temperature compared to the level its should be reach.

aha i didn't saw that coming too. don't know either i am too busy with academic or there is no rumor at all about that. how much is your G73 anyway?
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Well, first 3 months, apparently, it would be great, after that, overheating comes. That only apply for the A1 and B1 batch. The one i got is a different one and it's made around August. They might have rectified this issue, and if they havent, i think my respect with Asus will be lower, as Dell could fix stuff pretty fast with my M1530.

They wont survive, as it will shut down when it reach 106.

My temps are very good now. Max at 86C with Fur Mark, and 55C average while surfing net + winamp. It's almost as if i have repaste it. Hell will come, and i hope i'll be prepare for it.


Added on November 2, 2010, 6:07 pmI think all initial laptop model will have heaps of problem. G73 is a new model, and it's a huge improvement over G71, but it still have problems. Probably because Asus is still pretty inexperience with manufacturing high end gaming laptops.

M1530 had tonnes of problems. While Studio XPS16 has improved a lot from M1530.

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post Nov 2 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Nov 2 2010, 06:22 PM)
86 degree Celsius is pretty sweet for maximum stress. just check the ventilation hole to avoid any blockage due to dust etc from time to time. anyway, its good if you have time to tear up your laptop if you have free time. at least you already know what you have to do when the time comes, someday.

i thought when first seeing G73 clips and picture, its an improved version of G-Series. and i did thought slanting keyboard arrangement is dedicated for cooling mechanism. but Jeffery said there is no suction detected anywhere near the anterior of the keyboard.. sweat.gif
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Yea, 86 is sweet, as even with the most demanding games, most of the time it's about 10C from what you get from Furmark. It's fine the way it is, if it could stay like this for next 4 years.

To be honest, even cleaning the vents is tough as you need to disassemble the whole thing. Might as well repaste it when you are cleaning it. I'll probably a repaste 3 months later, and clean the fans.

Nah, the slanting keyboard is just for typing comfort, and yeah, it's damn comfortable to use it. The top of the speaker actually sucks air in as there are vents there. Pretty innovative as it's concealed under the LCD. I think laptop cooler is just completely useless for G73 as the bottom is almost completely sealed.
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post Nov 3 2010, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Nov 3 2010, 03:05 PM)

Since I have bought an Alienware laptop, I am thinking that I want to save some money, so that I can buy an Alienware desktop in the future. Then again, if I want to have dual graphic card setup, I have to invest at least RM 10000. With just RM 6000, anyone can have dual graphic card setup in a custom-built desktop. Needless to say, if I were to say that I have bought an Alienware desktop , at least anyone from Hardware Q&A would condemn me for being stupid.


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If you say like this, we are all stupid then as we spend 6k+ for a laptop that will even lose to a 3k custom made desktop.Whatever man, as long as we are happy and satisfied with what you have. I think we dont really need to care about those people.

At least we can move ours easily, despite it's a 5kg monster.
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post Nov 9 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Nov 9 2010, 08:51 AM)
Oh wai-... Aw M15x just catch up with GTX 460m. Now where m17x with GTX 480m? brows.gif
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This one made me slightly sad

3 days after i got G73, AW come out with 460M.

Still, it's still quite expensive.

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