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 Sep 14 2010, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 14 2010, 05:47 PM) Nokia E7 vid, just launched today! LoL, this looks like a better version of N8. The design looks like improved version of N8, but then given another name. Remind me of last time Nokia devices... N93... then N93i Or Some special edition (Music Edition, etc). |
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Sep 14 2010, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 14 2010, 08:30 PM) it looks more like N9 + N8 N8 with physical keyboard + N97 sliding/flip out style.The ads looks great as well, more professional, probably since it's a business smartphone. |
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Sep 14 2010, 08:47 PM
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http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_announces_e7...s-news-1934.php
Starting with the Nokia E7, it's got a tilting 4" AMOLED touchscreen with nHD resolution and a four row slide-out QWERTY keyboard. It's got high-end connectivity - 10.2Mbps HSDPA, 2Mbps HSUPA, Wi-Fi b/g/n, Bluetooth 3.0, A-GPS and Cell-ID positioning along with USB On-The-Go. The Nokia E7 highlights list continue with an 8MP camera with dual-LED flash, 720p video capture, and 16GB of built-in storage. There's HDMI port with Dolby Digital Plus surround sound support. The Nokia E7 weighs a hefty 176 grams - but that's because it's made of anodized aluminum. The Nokia E7 display uses the new ClearBlack technology, which promises darker blacks, better sunlight legibility and lower power usage. The E7 is expected to cost around 495 euro (637 USD) before taxes and subsidies. This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 14 2010, 08:48 PM |
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Sep 14 2010, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 14 2010, 08:49 PM) Slightly expansive than n8.... Again, back to dilemma choices for people;E7 have usb on the go... I don't see all the 4 phones are very much superior to each other.... They r pretty close to each other... 1 thing r very much diff... Which is the price.... In make me feel the higher price one worth the extra u pay compare to the cheaper one... e.g. Prefer A Design, but want some capabilities or hardware of B, etc. The problem with smartphones is, you can't upgrade the hardwares even if you're willing to pay a little more. Thus, leaving/forcing people to decide between the 2 sacrificing something, or..... just go for another brand/model which is more "complete". |
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Sep 14 2010, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 14 2010, 09:06 PM) Donno wat the h u talking about... I'm talking about design and hardwares.Ppl r talking the 4 symbian^3 here.... I m saying deciding btwn d 4 phones... Hardware r pretty close to each other but price diff r big... Someone may like C7 design but wanting the camera of N8. Or N8 specs with E7 design, etc. In short, they're putting consumers in dilemma. All 3 are different series but each have it's own uniqueness. If all hardware is almost as good, just design differences, it'll be easier to decide for consumers, but now more sacrifice is required for each choice Then again, this is just my personal opinion; you don't have to agree with it anyway, just like you have yours. |
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Sep 15 2010, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(ExHolyAngel @ Sep 15 2010, 01:12 PM) Even though if it is launched, even though u get ORI set. AP SET = ORIGINALYou still cannot get any warranty at malaysia using UK set. I have ask Nokia Malaysia, they replied me with no INTERNATIONAL WARRANTY for nokia products. Zitron SET = ORIGINAL also, but it's Authorised Malaysian Set. If you get UK Set, it same as AP Set. AP Set means other country set, imported by AP Companies. So, If Nokia Malaysia does not provide warranty for AP Product, it also mean the same thing as no International Warranty. NON-ORIGINAL = imitation, such as NokLa (altough nowadays they copy everything). Think about buying console like PS3, PSP. You can buy from game shop, that is ORIGINAL, but the set can be Japan, Korea, etc. No warranty from Sony Malaysia. If you buy from Sony Malaysia, it is called authorised Malaysian set and warranty provided by Sony Malaysia. This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 15 2010, 02:08 PM |
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Sep 15 2010, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 15 2010, 02:37 PM) imitation phone photo very hard to tell the difference. Worst as now many product made in China, Imagine this a car looks like ferrari but inside engine , car seat all kancil 1. Can u tell a different if someone send you a photo? For me i better wait some of the reliable seller start selling i only risk it. Or else bye bye RM1500 Original = made in China Imitation = made in China Imitation can have 99.99% looks like original.  Anybody know about the Audio Technica ONTO headset ATH-ON3? From what I know, Original and Imitation also made in China, in ebay, some buyer provide detail guide how to differentiate the differences; But seems the parts are similar and the sound quality is simiar as well, just the imitation assembly quality? I have no idea, but it's scary especially if you paid a hefty amount to get an imitation product. |
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Sep 15 2010, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 15 2010, 09:52 PM) i think error cannot be so geng phone got 17MB only haha wakaka, I spot another error.  ya, very wierd 16MB internal memory and no memory card support. |
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Sep 15 2010, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 15 2010, 09:57 PM) yea thanks spotted another error too wek wek That was on purprosehaha, jk when using physical keyboard, easy to make mistakes |
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Sep 15 2010, 10:14 PM
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Sep 15 2010, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 15 2010, 10:16 PM) so disappointed why maemo no flash 10 Nokia don't/bother to reply those people who question in maemo-talk forum.Even OVI map, turn by turn navigation; will be available for MeeGo. No news for Maemo. When asked, the reply was after it was available for MeeGo, if it can be ported "easily" for Maemo, then yes, if not, then... huh? What? What is Maemo? |
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Sep 15 2010, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(pirateguy @ Sep 15 2010, 10:19 PM) Good. If Maemo fanboys gets cocky we'll own them with Flash 10 support. No need so hard, so many ways to pwnd Maemo ler, but what for? Maemo is nothing, it's already obsolete, history. Haha; Nokia already don't care about it already, it's just mostly supported by the community.The one that touch everyone's tails is Mr. Jobs with his Antennagate wars. Signal bad then admit la, must take each and every phone to prove and they can actually take time and spend on it; Got so much time and money, go fix their problem better. |
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Sep 15 2010, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 15 2010, 10:26 PM) This post sounds like Andy214 is emotional about Nokia ditching Maemo Haha, many people are emotional about Nokia ditching Maemo; no need to hide or pretend, unlike some product when their product is have problem and the budak-kipas buys whatever word their "god - DarthVader" tells them. |
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Sep 15 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 15 2010, 10:30 PM) true but even nokia ditch it the OS is still very powerful. It's a very good Tablet OS, very unique as it stands out from the typical smartphone OS, especially the Desktop concept.Now they come up with MeeGo, which... looks like... Android... Why so many similar or look-alike OS? To end user that don't know the details/technicals, they will question, why should I go for MeeGo? Unless MeeGo becomes more popular and talk of the public, it might have better chance, but then name already loose... MeeGo? Android sounds way better... Even Maemo sounds better than MeeGo. N900 survives thanks to it's powerful community of users; but some pros already leave and switch to other device. Just wonder how long it will continue on, especially when MeeGo is launched... what will happen to the support when those people switch over? Unless those apps are really easily portable from one another... This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 15 2010, 10:36 PM |
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Sep 16 2010, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(ExHolyAngel @ Sep 16 2010, 12:36 AM) stereo or mono is objective. As long as u can hear the sound when somebody call u or sms u. that's enough for me. Nope, mono is rubbish. Why want mono? In my office, I heard ringtones that is loud but sounded crap, it was the iPhone with mono speakers. I was surprised, honestly... why are there still smartphone with mono speakers... I remember the old days when Nokia smartphones (7650, 3650, 6600) all have mono speakers, and it's crap, we even talk about upgrading the speaker and stuffs. People condem Nokia for the poor quality sound and many switch over to SE. Now MONO is back HOT again? Oh no...  YAMATE...This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 16 2010, 12:52 AM |
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Sep 16 2010, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 16 2010, 12:56 AM) I think u need to learn what is actually mean by Mono and Stereo in Audio world first... ur statement up there show u don't really understand what are really the different between mono and stereo.... Correct me if I'm wrong.let me give u a question to think... ur HIFI speaker... say 1 speaker sound ur ringtone , and compare to ur "stereo" phone speaker ring ur ringtone.. which one will sound better? My understanding of mono is single speaker only producing one channel. Stereo will have both LEFT and RIGHT channel. As when we watch olden days VCD, we switch different launguage through LEFT channel or RIGHT channel. Like iPhone, they only have mono quality sound, no stereo, which is also similar like 7650, 3650, 6600, etc. Edit: If it's software controlled, then it can be fixed, but if there's only 1 speaker, then you won't be able to produce stereo. Just like buying studio monitors, they usually sell per piece; If you get 1 piece, you will not be able to get stereo quality. This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 16 2010, 01:02 AM |
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Sep 16 2010, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(ne0cz @ Sep 16 2010, 01:01 AM) Andy, u r actually talking about speaker quality in the earlier statement. Not stereo n mono. Mono will produce crap quality to me (e.g. playing ringtone with mono only speaker, e.g. iPhone)This post is better  So, to me, no to mono. |
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Sep 16 2010, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 16 2010, 01:17 AM) what u say is correct.... but ur understanding are only up to there... Thanks for your time for the detailed explanation.let me explaint to u why .... first of all, U have to understand 1 speaker not MUST produce sound worse than 2 speaker.. like the example I give you.. 2nd.. for phone.. even u have 2 speakers.. u can hardly tell which sound come from which speaker to ur ear... our ear reconize sound from which direction by calculation on our brain.. the different of sound deliver to our left earn and right ear... because the stereo speaker on phone are ultra close.. We do not know which and which channel from which speakers.. 3rd... Sound.. traval by about 300m/s.... and sound have wavelenght.... human ear can listen something like 80Hz to 18kHz..... ur left speaker and ur right speaker on the phone distance are .. say max 10cm apart..... in order for our ear to know the different.. the wave lenght of the sound MUST be less than 10cm then only we MIGHT possible to tell the different.... Speed = 300m/s wavelength = 10cm or 0.1m the frequency u Might/start can tell the different is 300m/s divide by 0.1m which u get 3000Hz.. which is 3kHz and above sound u might able to tell the different... any freq below that.. we can differential sh1t.... that is also why the reason we always use only 1 subwoofer... the wavelenght of those frequency are few Meter.. we know sh1t about where the sound from... 4th... compliment to the 2nd point.. u have to place the phone as close to ur ear as possible to make the different of distance travel to ur 2 ear to be high... mean distant A -distant B = higher the value.... then u can tell the different more obvious.... sum up all the point above.... if a phone with mono speaker. .. and this mono speaker can produce good sound.. it mix up ur source 2 channels together and output to this speaker... we can tell sh1t the different of a stereo speaker phone... u talking about studio monitor speaker.. I can talk 1 day 1 night with u.... and u also can see why they put the left and right speaker far apart to get actual Stereo effect... EOF.. thank you.... Actually, I haven't heard of a good mono speaker so I can't comment on it but in terms of smartphones, wouldn't having stereo speaker for dedicated channels produce better sound than single speaker? When the 2 source channel mix together and output through single speaker VS 2 speaker output for dedicated channel, wouldn't the 2 speaker produce better sound (let's make it simple that it's identical speakers and let's forget about placement for now). What I'm trying to say is, let's say we have 2 speakers playing dedicated channels, we remove one of the speaker and try to output both channels through 1 speaker instead. Which will sound better? From my experience, I can tell the different and I don't like mono. As for Studio Monitor, I'm just using it as an example as they are usually sold per piece compared to commercial speakers which usually comes in a set. We can also take keyboard amp for example, they sell per piece, which if you take one piece, you only get mono output and thus, mono quality. To get stereo quality, you will need to get another piece. |
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Sep 16 2010, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 16 2010, 01:44 AM) ya.. have 2 speaker always better than 1... u have the point there... Ok, got your point on mono; in terms of small device, I think having stereo (2 speaker for dedicated channels) should have better quality right? Because I haven't heard of any device with mono speakers that sounded OK at all, or is there?overally... I just wanted to tell u.. MONO doesn't neccessary produce worse sound than Stereo in a device so small as phone... coz.. the different we can tell are ultra minimal... I can just say, they sounded awful or can say, there's something missing; Last time, since we have no choice, we play with hertz and bitrate to make the sound sort of louder yet still pleasing to the ears,... or maybe this has something to do with the speaker instead. |
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Sep 16 2010, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Sep 16 2010, 01:56 AM) wow, damn great picture qualities on gsmarena.com.. Previously Nokia make big statement about making phone camera to another level. only im worried about nokia, if it is true 8mp without autofocus, a MAJOR letdown from nokia fans.. (E7, C7) If the above is true, and the fixed focus is also true, somehow it's like "what you say is different with what you do". |
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