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TSLeo the Lion
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 Sep 20 2010, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 03:19 PM) Oh ya... Internal memory, LOL... Phone vs Internal... But since you already know the problem liao, its hardware limitation, why still sad? I'm disappointed with previous N97, really frustrated with out of memory problem. But very pleased that N900 doesn't have that problem. So I think it's Symbian problem that won't allow user to install either internal or external memory. |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:21 PM) So sifu what's the transfer rate between the phone memory , internal memory and external memory is like? So if install in internal memory is it the same speed as phone memory?  so if use mass storage is it better to store in the internal memory or external memory? What makes out of memory is the little space of phone memory. Hence, huge space = won't be a problem. The speed depend on the RAM and how many application is open. If application is design like auto launcher after booting, alot of RAM will be used thus make the phone terribly lag. Also, it depend on the OS whether the OS is smart enough to maintain the speed by controlling the running app like freezing it on the background.
Added on September 20, 2010, 2:27 pmIt's better the OS allow user to install application either internal or external memory. Option is always better. This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Sep 20 2010, 02:27 PM |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 03:28 PM) Actually, under what situation did you encounter them? I did tried out an experiment. When sending a file which is much bigger than the phone memory via bluetooth, it will encounter error. I think this problem is worst on 7610 where the phone memory is around 10MB++. The ROM was meant only for phone operation storage to store stuffs like SMSes, MMSes, Contact List instead of being for Application. When installing an application  So I really think it's Symbian problem, not the hardware. :\ |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:30 PM) Thanks so what i wanna understand why is there nand ram? like N97 it have 256mb ram and N97mini have 512mb ram it heard it makes a different how does this play a role in the memory allocation Like some people here discussed, NAND is flash memory, so I think it really about speed of memory allocation. I think la, dunno if it's right or wrong.  |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:32 PM) Yea like the Screen Resolution 360 x 640 for symbian ? is it true it cant go higher? due to OS limitation? This one, I really don't know. So no comment bout it.  |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:33 PM) so if install in phone memory should it reduce seek time? What if install in internal memory? What's the different seek time between phone memory and internal memory? If we understand this it will help improve reduce lagginess while multi tasking right sifu? Erm... RAM has a big roll in it and so the memory. About the seek time, I really don't know but think it doesn't show any BIG difference anyway. |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 03:36 PM) Well, depends. Lets just say that your phone memory left 10MB for example. When you try to install SIS, it will still have to extract those file and then copy them to the installation destination. Now if Symbian extract those files into the ROM before copying them to the Internal Storage, and if it happened to exceed the phone memory (for example 10MB as we speak now), yeah, it would give you a out of memory error. Similar to the bluetooth file sending error that I tried out. But for most, I think it's really Symbian problem for not being so smart |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:41 PM
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From every Nokia phone I used, the most problem is N97. Seems A2SD didn't really worked on N97, so it's Symbian problem.
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:41 PM) Since sifu so geng its best we listen what sifu have to share with us isnt that why u all come together here. We have alot to learn from you we look forward for your guidance and knowledge to expand and understand the world of technology. We still waiting your answer on the seek thing. Its a very interested topic care to ellaborate more? It might help us understand better how symbian works? I think the seek "thing" doesn't show any huge differences here. Take example like your HDD, you can partitioned it to C:, D:, E:. So phone memory and internal memory is like one "HDD" but separate into 2 types of partition = phone memory and internal memory C:. Correct me if I'm wrong, just telling what I understand so far |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 03:45 PM) Huh?? So, issit your phone memory left very little when installing app that gives you the out of memory error? or just having your RAM fully occupied to perform the installation? Can't recall, but I think it's when installing an app. |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 03:48 PM) You never confirm the exact problem for that? Should check RAM level to verify the source of the error. Well, I dump N97 a long time ago. So don't remember much but only could think that it was when installing an application
Added on September 20, 2010, 2:50 pmWhy can't people correct me if they know I was wrong. Damn, all the question seeems forward to me. >.< This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Sep 20 2010, 02:50 PM |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 03:54 PM) Who told you to answer him/her ? It was obvious who he/she is aiming at, NO? Why do you want to explained to someone who knows more about MEMORY than yourself. Well, I don't really like to argue, so I just answer it, can't meh? And let the person be.
Added on September 20, 2010, 2:57 pmOrait, I'm out from discussion. Need to run some errand This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Sep 20 2010, 02:57 PM |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 05:00 PM) RM1,690 + RM1,200 = RM 2,890 Not bad wor... however, 1GB is too low... 1cent/kb if over quota, dont play play... later suffer... I'm still in contract with Maxis coz of SGS's plan. Can I go for iphone 4 without another adding another contract? Just curious. |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 05:21 PM) Yes, Maxis call it RECONTRACT. For example, your contract left 6months, so now you can SAMBUNG KONTRAK, 6months + 12months = 18months bound. Very desperate to sell it seem. http://www.maxis.com.my/personal/iphone4/contract.aspBTW, thinking of selling your SGS to me cheaply liao issit? 1.4k  RM1.4k? DUnwan la. dun wan la
Added on September 20, 2010, 4:26 pmCan explain more about recontract? This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Sep 20 2010, 04:26 PM |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 20 2010, 05:43 PM) Thanks for your explanation. So it is RM88 + (iPhone price / 36 months)? The 3rd year is no longer bound to contract but still have repayment correct? The 1st 2 year must stay with Digi, 3rd year you can cancel the line but still have to pay the repayment? To put it simple, the phone is actually not free. 3rd year u have to pay. |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Sep 20 2010, 05:53 PM) Btw, any link of pre-order says RM1600~1700? |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Sep 20 2010, 06:22 PM) People are getting crazy,Fans are getting tired but Nokia still slow motion. I'm crazy about getting N8 via Nokia Ranger Program. Till now, havent receive any update  |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Sep 20 2010, 06:26 PM) need meh leo,so big over there.To Radiance bla bla bla.haha.im not expect that much to get free N8 via Nokia Ranger Programme.i just want to attend the Programme as i can talk closely to Nokia Management.point out the disadvantage directly in front of management.and of course,disappointment of consumer. Yea, i also wanna talk to them, about Symbian, MeeGo, N8 have CBD? and etc2 question  |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Sep 20 2010, 06:30 PM) CBD?forget about it.nothing to cheers about CBD.y dun u ask N8 have S Amoled?lol. I wanna ask if N8 will have CBD coz according to France blogger, it says it will have on retail product. |
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TSLeo the Lion
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Sep 20 2010, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 20 2010, 06:32 PM) yeah... forgot about it... >90% is a NO...  If later it say it will have?  |
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