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 Nokia N8 - V4!, King of CameraPhones. Read FAQ 2nd post

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post Sep 20 2010, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Sep 20 2010, 10:57 AM)
iPhone 2G - N95
iPhone 3G - N96
iPhone 3GS - N97
iPhone 4 - N8

during the time the first iPhone came out, people bash it and prefer N95 as a do it all device, then iphone 3g release with AGPS, while N96 was rubbish, after that 3GS vs N97, no one even bother to compare these two although N97 gained some initial hype but not after its been launched,

will N8 repeat the same history as N97 or N96?

Apple despite being a close source platform, grow alot in the past 3 years, so do Android, where has symbian been up to
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re-structure:

iPhone 2G - N95
iPhone 3G - N96, N97
iPhone 3GS - N8
iPhone 4 - N9/N9.5 tongue.gif

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post Sep 20 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(saiya @ Sep 20 2010, 11:04 AM)
ok.. when this will be out...
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Sep 20 2010, 11:08 AM)
timing tak ngam
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 20 2010, 01:04 PM)
Here's something else I wonder:
N97 - 128MB RAM?
After fresh boot, it's around 50MB++ (Phone memory)? Can't remember the exact amount.
N97 Mini - 256MB RAM?
After fresh boot, it has more than 100MB++ (Phone memory).

Why does the RAM affects the Phone Memory available?
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ahhh... u wanna know more??

For N8:

256Mb RAM = D3000 = COMBO POP4 2Gb DDR (RAM like pc ram, use by OS only not for storage)
512Mb ROM = D3000 = COMBO POP4 4Gb MuxedModeMemory NAND = C: drive (can be use) and Z: drive (read only)

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 01:56 PM)
What do you mean?
Although Android phone came with 512MB ROM, only left 200MB++ and very fast dwindling. I only lef 30MB++.
Must wait till Froyo to get A2SD. Ma fan...
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lao yah symbian fail due to some stuburn apps default install into C: and not selectable... shakehead.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 01:59 PM)
Har??  shocking.gif

More like only MAPS cannot select where to install nia. Others should be no problem. Whats your problem?
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nop... nokia ovi store update, java runtime update, flash update... all these core apps no option for installation path and most of them quite huge in size... try to fit in kingkong into a kancil... tongue.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 02:04 PM)
ICIC...

But hor, aint Flash Lite 3.1 already included liao since V40?
Java runtime? That was suppose to be the beta version issit? Or has it finalized?
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post Sep 20 2010, 02:09 PM

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and then itu external microsd saja saja corrupted easily in the tube... sweat.gif

I'm running some verification though on the memcard... found we better dont use Windows to format the card as the default sector size use is smaller then the phone use (4kb vs 32kb)... hope this flaw not impacting the N8... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 02:10 PM)
I never encounter that before...

How did you guys abuse the memory card?
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 20 2010, 02:12 PM)
Install many application. Install 10~14 application on N97 = out of memory. Install 20+ application on SGS, no problem encounter. LOL Means, bigger memory, the better.
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some apps utilize the C: drive, although we install it into the memcard the C: will getting lower and lower with more apps installed... nod.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 20 2010, 02:16 PM)
If the phone memory is huge say 4gb~5gb, it won't have memory shortage. But since phone memory is used for core application, then 3rd part application should be install in either internal memory or external memory.
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post Sep 20 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 20 2010, 02:19 PM)
Oh ya...

Internal memory, LOL...
Phone vs Internal...

But since you already know the problem liao, its hardware limitation, why still sad?
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it's funny how the device memory distribute, just wonder why they not just treat the 16Gb as phone memory... rclxub.gif

512Mb ROM => Z:
256Mb RAM => no need to show lah (sakit hati saja when keep seeing it getting low)
16Gb => C: since it's already internally connected.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 02:33 PM)
so if install in phone memory should it reduce seek time? What if install in internal memory? What's the different seek time between phone memory and internal memory?

If we understand this it will help improve lagginess right sifu?
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the C: is hardwired but the 16Gb is through interface... hmm.gif

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post Sep 20 2010, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 20 2010, 02:46 PM)
Can't recall, but I think it's when installing an app.
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there's still others thing that will also trigger memory error like a crash... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 02:52 PM)
Sorry mate want to help you  but this isnt our field of expertist. Must wait sifu to answer. Sifu need to guide us so we learn so next time someone ask same question we have an answer then we can correct u hehe


Added on September 20, 2010, 2:53 pm

how to verify the source of the error? check apps manager? Can Ram booster helps? or apps like KILLME?
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 02:55 PM)
Sold my N97 already as well. I wonder how does C6 perform against the N97?
Any comment on this sifu? Sifu ignore wo i just admit i do not know and sifu ignore. haha
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new OS, no body really know how well it gonna handle the memory... plus the C6 have bigger ram size... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:01 PM)
Hehe, thanks for your time and also those that help to explains.

I think someone can list down in details each part and also the error for easier reference or confused people like me.
Example: like what sklchan listed each item and it's explanation
Then the types of error message, like Out Of Memory Or Memory Full, what else?

Many people also confused with Internal/Mass Storage with Phone Memory; It doesn't matter if they get a 16GB model VS 8GB model or SD card model (e.g. the older generation Nokia which have either option only), the low Phone Memory problem is still there.
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Added on September 20, 2010, 3:03 pmfuyoooo... Android in N8 loh.... tongue.gif

http://www.shanzai.com/index.php/bandit-ga...out-of-thin-air

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:04 PM)
Don't really know why, that's why I'm wondering why my Phone Memory low also get error, maybe the ram was also low that time; Have to use those app to see the ram usage only know.

Perhaps, some process still not yet clear off in RAM? Not sure...
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memory leak... common for all electronic devices... nod.gif
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:09 PM)
Care to ellaborate memory leaks means its restore but it just doesnt acknowledge it in system memory?
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better let the wiki answer in detail... sweat.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 20 2010, 03:13 PM)
Higher resolution really makes a difference especially in web browsing and texts related. Impressive on the iphone retina display


Added on September 20, 2010, 3:13 pm

Thanks ill read it up. Appreciate your effort  notworthy.gif
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but in small screen does those resolution do any good in text reading? hmm.gif

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