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post Sep 17 2010, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 17 2010, 03:01 PM)
No offence, i think this whole section is no different from Kopitiam as no one is willing to write anything constructive. The topics here arent even encouraging you to have constructive posts.

IMO, this sections needs slightly stricter rule. As we could see from ScrewballX, he have been copying and pasting various information from any source, sometimes with incomplete information. We need a rule that anything you post, you need a source so that other people could see whether the source is a credible source or just another of those pseudo science sites that blindly supporting some hypothesis.

Also, the amount of pseudo science needs to be reduced, as they have nothing much to discuss about. Things like sorcery, hollow eath "theory" shouldnt be here, or at least have decent articles or sources to discuss about.
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Pasting and copy latest info for what we dont know why the north pole is kept out of peoples view. Some explorer may have come across it, there are also people who investigate this "hole" but their progress has been hinder by goverment. Google earth have a blank spot on the top or photoshop as well as any sat images. At the North Pole, the sun is permanently above the horizon during the summer months, so why there is no full sat images during this time?
All information we gather are never 100%. Nothing is 100%.
If you are in to science without a shred of belief i tell you this, If i ask you to jump, spit and shout "Oi, come out yer dead people" at the cemetary at 12 midnight, will you do it? Surely you would be afraid of getting "someone" angry. From that point your science dont apply.
Hawking believed lifeform from different planets by calculation and announce it to the world, but the Hollow Earth theory is where alien dwells according to people who said to have been there. Hawking already open a new chapter of theory when he announce alien is "real" through calculation.
So which part does this Theads fit with kopitiam? If you think this theads should be at kopitiam then any theads relating to Stephan Hawking theory should go there as well. nod.gif
We dont know on that robotic speaking chair of his, he also calculating the Hollow earth theory, thus another theory of alien pops up.

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post Sep 17 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 17 2010, 09:47 PM)
what do you mean north pole is keep out of view, which government are hindering the investigation of the hole? and north pole dont sit on a land mass like south pole, it is water under the ice any submarine that pass through there will drop into the hole if there is one, and they even have measure the depth of the sea there, the soviet drifting ice station have been around the area for many decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_and_Ru...ng_ice_stations

in 2007 a team for russia decent to the sea bed of the north pole in a publicity stunt to drop a russian flag there

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Russian and the US has been neck and neck going for the Moon. But in the end, we dont know who win. Russian said they win, US said they win but there is a conspiracy that US never made to the Moon. They make stage and film it from there.
As you read it, Russian want to make a publicity stunt.. so it could be somewhere but not anywhere near the "hole".

Coordinate for hole has been said at 87.7N lat, 142.2E long (2.3 Degree from pole). But mind you there are occurance at the north pole. From sea level, mirage can be seen and also it has been said that the magnetic pole can tamper with the compass and electronic stuff.


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post Sep 18 2010, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 17 2010, 11:02 PM)
since when did sovietsaid they win the race to the moon???? they have a legitimate claim that they win the space race with their many first in space flight history, but definately not the moon.  if the US have stage the landing on the moon why dont the soviet expose them, it is a conspiracy of unimaginable magnitute involving hundred of thousand of people to fake a moon landing and to fool all the thousand of reporter and spy and are watching nasa's every move. it would be easier to fly to the moon than to fake one.

you know why russian want to plant the flag there? it is due to dispute is the claim on the resources in the artic between russia, US, canada, norway, denmark and greenland, all these country are mapping the artic to try to establish their claim to the area. none have find a massive hole which will be easy to find, and why would russia put the flag in the wrong place, it would be national embarassment if they do.

the north pole are ice and water, submarine have sail through there, nuclear ice breaker and gone there, you can got for a trip to the north pole on board NS Yamal to see for yourself there is not a hole in the group.

http://www.calflora.net/northpole/index.html
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Stated bearing is at 90 N. 48"04.172 E (2.0)D

Not close enough to the "hole" bearing.


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QUOTE(dkk @ Sep 17 2010, 11:46 PM)
The main trouble with the hollow earth hypothesis is that by now, the interior of the earth has already being mapped using seismic waves. There is no great big void. Just like we can use ultrasound to see an unborn child without cutting open her mother's womb, we do not actually need to dig a 5000km hole to prove that the earth is not hollow. It would be interesting if someone comes up with a hypothesis that will account for the observed seismic data, AND have a great big void at the center of the planet. I doubt it's possible.

Another problem with this hypothesis is the earth's magnetic field. The current model of the earth (solid iron core, surrounded by liquid iron, surround by molten rock, and lastly the solid crust) accounts for this. The hollow earth model does not.
Yes, the internal earth is mapped by seismic BUT how big should a seismic reader should be? As the case of ultrasound, the power and size of the machine needed to go inside the mother's womb. But in earth case, you need to measure all around the world PLUS other material buried in the ground also how about a larger gap in the ground like caves. I already posted some cave picture that go down for thousands of feet and we have the largest cave system at Sarawak Mulu caves where it can go miles deep and cove a vast amount of areas .. so if a seismologyst measure earth and he was standing above a giant cave.. how could he measure that? If he can measure the earth crust, why we do we have cave explorers to see where and how deep is the caves goes?
Such as the crystal cave, how would the seismic measure react to a hollow ground?


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"By close study of many earthquake records from around the world, we can map out the parts of the Earth's interior where seismic waves arrive sooner or later than average. Those that come sooner travel faster. Those that come later are slowed down by something along the way. In scientific shorthand, the variations in travel time reflect variations in seismic velocity. That's the basis of seismic "ultrasound imaging," because many specific parts of the mantle (and core) have different seismic velocities. Once you know how to pinpoint those places, you can turn earthquake data into pictures of the Earth's interior.

There are two simple complications. First, seismic waves don't move in a straight line through the Earth but instead bend, or refract, in response to changes in rock density. Second, seismic waves can bounce, or reflect, off of sharp density boundaries. One of these is the Earth's surface, the boundary between the crust and the atmosphere. Another one, even sharper than that, is between the mantle and the core. And there are other lesser ones.

In exactly the same way, doctors send high-frequency sound through a mother's belly to map out the density boundaries between bones and skin and organs to take a baby picture. The image is actually a tomogram ("slice picture"), a cross-section of the mother and child. The same procedure on the Earth is called seismic tomography. " - About.com Geology


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This link to a seismic study which has a very intresting images ..

http://www.physorg.com/news90171847.html

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Stated at first post .. please read.

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http://www.mosnews.com/weird/2009/05/20/mammoth/


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http://www.think-aboutit.com/hollow/hollow_earth.htm

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Letter from expedition

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ExpeditionUpdate15.htm
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post Sep 18 2010, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(KeNGZ @ Sep 18 2010, 09:53 PM)
okay okay.
would you mind doing something more meaningful and constructive rather than wasting your time here on something that is not going to get you any benefit?
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QUOTE(KeNGZ @ Sep 18 2010, 09:53 PM)
okay okay.
would you mind doing something more meaningful and constructive rather than wasting your time here on something that is not going to get you any benefit?
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Example?

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post Sep 19 2010, 10:02 AM

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In the 1950's Prof Hapgood came up with the Pole Shift idea. He believed that since the polar ice caps were continually increasing in size (and weight) that this might cause the Earth to tilt on its side. Since the polar ice caps are unevenly distributed in both the Arctic and Antarctic (e.g. Greenland which lies on one side of the Arctic), he believed that a point would be reached where the centrifugal force of this uneven distribution would cause the Earth to tilt over. Albert Einstein was very impressed with this idea just prior to his death.

I have wondered if the recurrence of ice-ages might be better explained by way of Pole Shift theory. The North Pole was once located in Wisconsin, USA. Similarly, the South Pole was once located in what is now the Sahara desert. The poles have shifted a great many times. But was this because continents were slipping and sliding hither and thither across the face of the Earth or is it that the entire Earth shifted?

It is fashionable these days to blame the extinction of the dinosaurs on comet strikes. The extinction of the dinosaurs was not a one-time event. Indeed, multitudes of species became extinct a great many times. There have been many biological extinctions in the history of our small planet. In the 1980's some scientists conducted a study of these extinctions and discovered to their amazement that there seemed to be a regular pattern to them. Their results were published in Science. These extinctions seemed to occur approximately every 26 million years. What could cause this? The problem with comet strikes is that they are destructive in the sense that the comet/meteor which does the deed is itself annihilated in the process. It is almost absurd to expect comets to strike the Earth with a fixed periodicity. Could it therefore be that something else is at work - something here on Earth for example?

One scientist, D. E. Loper, noticed a correlation between biological extinctions, magnetic reversals, climate change and other geological phenomenon. A number of scientists have noticed a correlation between magnetic reversals and biological extinctions and have written papers about this. Could it be that biological extinctions are also caused by the Earth itself undergoing upheavals of an internal origin?

I do not doubt that comets and meteors must indeed have fallen on the Earth in the past. There is considerable and irrefutable evidence of cometary strikes. And very possibly some of these strikes wiped out large numbers of animal species. However, it is a different thing to say that all biological extinctions are caused by comets. And it is here where these studies of periodicity come into their own. It might even be that the Earth itself is unstable and that it is the main cause of most biological extinctions over and above those caused by comets.

It would seem as if magnetic reversals coincide with other things including an increase in volcanic activity. Could it therefore be that Pole Shifts are the driving factor here? Magnetic reversals might be nothing more than a record of past Pole Shifts. And if the Earth moved physically (because of some weight redistribution), it is entirely possible that this triggered volcanic activity and earthquakes on a vast scale which then destroyed large numbers of animals.

There may also be evidence of rapidly rising land which perhaps builds new continents. Velikovsky pointed to the large number of Zeuglodons (an extinct prehistoric whale) found in Alabama and the Gulf States. Could it be that what was once sea-bed suddenly rose to become dry land? Could this be caused by a Pole Shift?

I have given the Pole Shift idea a special place in Hollow Planet theory. Let's suppose, as per the deep quake evidence inside of the Earth is not as hot as scientists presume it to be. This being the case one would expect water to flow deep inside the Earth. Such water may create tunnels and cavities. There may even be vast oceans of water inside the Earth. Thus, unbeknown to us on the surface there may be an ongoing redistribution of mass going on inside the planet all the time. Perhaps one day some of these cavities become weakened by tremors or by their increasing size and perhaps some of them collapse. This might then cause an entire continent above to then sink into the sea. And perhaps the compressed underground ocean forces other land to rise elsewhere. Gravity may also play a role in this. If gravity is affected by electric currents inside the Earth then this may also help to trigger a rise and fall in land on the surface of the Earth.

In recent years some scientists have been thinking seriously about the Pole Shift concept and some papers have been written about it. Their term for it is "Polar wandering".

One also finds various evidence in the polar regions suggesting that the climate there was much hotter. Was that because the Earth as a whole was hotter or because the polar regions actually lay near the equator?

Dodwell, an Australian astronomer, studied gnomons from around the world. He determined that they had indeed been reorientated within the last few thousand years and that a Pole Shift had occurred within human history.

Finally, I point to the inclinations of all the planets. All the planets are aligned differently. Even though all the planets formed at the same time and rotated in the same direction we find that they are all inclined differently. Venus for example is actually upside down (i.e. retrograde rotation), while Uranus is lying on its side. In fact, I have seen suggestions by some scientists that Pole Shifts may have occurred on the Moon and Mars. Could it be that Pole Shifts are actually endemic to all Hollow Planets and that they are constantly reorientating themselves due to internal mass redistributions which we know nothing of?


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A few of my sources for this chapter:

Kennett, J. P., and Watkins, N. D.; “Geomagnetic Polarity Change, Volcanic Maxima and Faunal Extinction in the South Pacific”, Nature, 227:930, 1970.
Hays, James D.; “Faunal Extinctions and Reversals of the Earth’s Magnetic Field”, Geological Society of America, Bulletin, 82:2433, 1971.
“Earth’s Magnetism Does Correlate with Climate”, New Scientist, 77:848, 1978.
Kelly, Allan O., and Dachille, Frank; “Prehistoric and Modern Lakes”, Target Earth, Carlsbad, 1953, pg 172.
“The Age of the Bolivian Andes”, Geographical Record, 4:59, 1917.


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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70612084458.htm

"Scientists currently define Earth's center in two ways: as the mass center of solid Earth or as the mass center of Earth's entire system, which combines solid Earth, ice sheets, oceans and atmosphere. Argus says there is room for improvement in these estimates."

Argus argues that movements in the mass of Earth's atmosphere and oceans are seasonal and do not accumulate enough to change Earth's mass center. He therefore believes the mass center of solid Earth provides a more accurate reference frame.

"By its very nature, Earth's reference frame is moderately uncertain no matter how it is defined," Argus said. "The problem is very much akin to measuring the center of mass of a glob of Jell-O, because Earth is constantly changing shape due to tectonic and climatic forces. This new reference frame takes us a step closer to pinpointing Earth's exact center." - sciencedaily


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"The Biggest Crash on Earth: India Slides Under Tibet, but How?"

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/...00916145129.htm

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There is no theory of the universe; events cannot be predicted beyond a certain extent but occur in random and arbitrary manner. - Stephan Hawking.

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After years of waiting for the Sun to illuminate Saturn’s North Pole again, cameras aboard NASA’s Cassini spacecraft have captured the most detailed images yet of the fascinating hexagon shape crowning the planet.

The new images of the hexagon, whose shape is the path of a jet stream flowing around the North Pole, reveal concentric circles, curlicues, walls, and streamers not seen in previous images.

NASA’s Voyager spacecraft had last captured the visible-light images of the entire hexagon nearly 30 years ago. After the sunlight faded, darkness engulfed the north pole for 15 years, and much to the delight and bafflement of Cassini scientists, the location and shape of the hexagon in the latest images match those they saw in the Voyager pictures.

“The longevity of the hexagon makes this something special, given that weather on Earth lasts on the order of weeks,” said Kunio Sayanagi, a Cassini imaging team associate at the California Institute of Technology.

“It’s a mystery on par with the strange weather conditions that give rise to the long-lived Great Red Spot of Jupiter,” he added.

The hexagon was originally discovered in images taken by the Voyager spacecraft in the early 1980s. It encircles Saturn at about 77 degrees north latitude and has been estimated to have a diameter wider than two Earths. The jet stream is believed to whip along the hexagon at around 100 meters per second.

Early hexagon images from Voyager and ground-based telescopes suffered from poor viewing perspectives. Cassini, which has been orbiting Saturn since 2004, has a better angle for viewing the North Pole. But, the long darkness of Saturnian winter hid the hexagon from Cassini’s visible-light cameras for years.

However, infrared instruments were able to obtain images by using heat patterns. Those images showed the hexagon is nearly stationary and extends deep into the atmosphere. They also discovered a hotspot and cyclone in the same region.



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Well, look like so many people are intrested in the Hollow earth theory ..
Say what, since you skepters are easliy aggitated by the post. Why dont you ask any science foundation to CONFIRM the Solid earth Theory? Mostly scientice nowdays just say "Believed" so no people could call them crazy scientice and get rejected by society.
Like any science, they only confirm the earth core by Graphic images provided. No solid mapping as explain in the Seismic VS Geology.

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Now, People Anywhere around the world and you know that Earth is Alive.
Under the Law of Nature. How many living thing can you find which is solid from the inside ?




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post Sep 20 2010, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Sep 20 2010, 02:58 AM)
Have you guys read the articles at:http://www.ourhollowearth.com/

"The purpose of the North Pole Inner Earth Expedition under the leadership of Dr. Brooks Agnew is to search out the polar opening and confirm it's existence, even though Dr. Agnew is reticent to admit that is the purpose of the expedition until he can get absolute scientific proof (you know how scientists are).  You are welcome to join that expedition on Dr. Agnew's Phoenix Science Foundation website.
As some of you know, we have also located a seaplane owner who is willing to take anyone to the destination in the Arctic that we have requested.  I have now updated my eBook with this new information, in which we are also now providing the way anyone that wants to go to Our Hollow Earth can now go even if they are not accepted on Dr. Agnew's expedition for lack of available space."

So, ScrewBallX are you going? The part about the vikings / Eskimos folk tales story about hollow earth is constant summer with vegetation all year is like how they wish they can live like that, I must say its a good read for the sake of knowing people have put in so much time to make it believable and gave rise to movies like "Journey to the center of the Earth".

Just a thought, if Russia is keeping this a secret, why did they sent their people (Jew) to Israel not hallow earth a long time ago? or why bother to compete with US in everything while they could have UFO technology? Why the people in hallow Earth want to make contact with the American pilot? So he can be famous but won't allow any evidence to proof it?

" Adolf Hitler and some of his followers escaped to hollow lands within the Earth after World War II via an entrance in Antarctica."
This line sounds like he went to hell aka Hollow Earth, why hollow people accept him or is there all criminals goes. tongue.gif
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Actually, before the movies there are also stories for the old days regarding the "City of Heavens", Chinese in Tibet know it as "Shangri-La" or "Shamballa" and most of nearly all the folk stories are usually the same in different country. Now, how did the story of this underground city is known to all past people? All of them heve different version of city but the same location.. Underground !
But if i were to go there, and could find the hole to inner world. Would i come back and tell you all? The stories states many intresting thing about the inner world.

1.) people goes in there can live longer "Forever".
2.) Technologies are Advance.
3.) No war, Violance and etc.
4.) Will never go hungry.
5.) More relaxed
6.) Everything is free.
7.) Can visit other planets. ( Tour guide to other planets)
8.) Human potential capability "Telepathic" or other is higher.

If everyone know the hole and the stories is true. Ill bet you 100% from India to Africa and other poor nation of poverty and war will go there to seek refuge. So the USA will lose power over almost everything. No people will want to live on the surface anymore. Control MUST be INFORCE !! USA !!
But in Kota Kinabalu, people did spot UFO there but where did it come from? Its going to space meaning there should be a passage way under the Mount Kinabalu via Sea shore line. Just like in Sarawak Caves, there are 180 miles of tunnle system with a large space in it.
Believe it or not, it depends on people..
Like people believe in Solid Earth same as people believed in Hollow Earth and some FLAT EARTH !!! Link to flat earth : http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/i...hp?topic=1324.0


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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 20 2010, 09:34 AM)
there is a problem with you logic how does US have control on every country in the world, can US stop canada moving into the hole, or the russian, the japanese, the chinese, the aussies?

and since the story have been around for so long, before US even have a large military, how u explain no people have run to the hollow earth, why does the irish dont go there to escape poverty instead of US?
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In Asia, story of the inner world is told by generation without suppression but in europe, it a different stories.
Like Irish they also subject to certian supression by "Club"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
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QUOTE(Eventless @ Sep 20 2010, 10:08 AM)
And with this post, we now know the motivation for the TS' obsession with this particular subject. A heaven on earth where the only entrance condition is being able to get there. Unfortunately Shangri-La is a work of fiction created in the 1930s and Shambhala which Shangri-La is based on has a karma related entry method. There's no mention of these places as being underground.
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Im 50/50 with the hollow earth theory. I did paste a few non-hollow earth theory.. correct?

This theory connects with other theory like the UFO, Alien, 2012 and hollow planets. It will be a never ending debate. Even science today are unsure about the inner earth BUT made it 100% "sure" the earth is solid even unexplore just to make a platform or a guideline for future science until its discovery.
Like the fish from dinosaur age they thought and believed to be extinct for million of years but they found it, so not all are discovered even in this mordern time.

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As theory of hollow earth, there are many extinct animals & fish still living in the inner earth. It could be, or by some how. The fish gotten trough to the surface world. hmm.gif


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post Sep 21 2010, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 20 2010, 07:38 PM)
The amount of nonsense is enough for me for a whole year.
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Good for you. The Hollow earth theory is full of nonsense for you. But still you reply in this theads and demanding it to stop, i wonder what tip your scale since there are other theads that is way over the nonsense scale or even to mine?

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"Think about its round shape. It was centrifugal force that sculpted the Earth, and all the planets. That force was greater at the equators, so they all bulge at the equators. Going towards the poles, that force would have progressively diminished, such that the outline of the planets would have gradually inclined inwards until, at the poles, there would have been no curvature. The crust at the poles would be very thin because the centrifugal force at the poles would have been very little; the matter there would have slid down and concentrated itself at equator and reinforced the crust there.

As the outer crust cooled, any pent up force within the planet would have most likely expressed itself by blowing out through the axial (polar) points and would have formed openings. (Our planet has polar openings) This seems to be what is indicated by the huge, crater-like depressions at the tops of the planets which we can observe. The outer rim or collar of such openings could be a tell-tale sign of such an outburst from the interior which happened long, long ago during the formative stages.
What hollow earth proponents are saying is that the same force which sculpted the outer shape of the planets, that centrifugal force, would have had to have opened up a cavity within the planets, too. The force could not have had such a dramatic impact on the exterior shape and curve of the planets, with no cavity opening up at the core. Because the centrigfugal force was not evenly distributed, the interior cavity would have the shape of a football or rugby ball, with the points edging towards the poles.

The cavity of our Earth can’t have a liquid interior. If it had, the tidal force exerted by the Moon would have induced the liquid interior to bust through any crust just as soon as such crust could have formed by
cooling.

And it can’t be full of molten lava because the Earth has a magnetic field. The magnetic fields touch the poles and the Earth serves as a conductor to close the circuit. If the inner core of the Earth had the temperatures which the Molten Core Theory stipulates that it does, then any magnetic properties would be lost as heat destroys magnetism. And it doesn’t take too much heat- this point is called the Curie Point. So the existence of the Earth’s magnetic field indicates that the core is not molten nor hot." - Hollow theoriest


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"Mammoth Cave in Kentucky, for example, has been mapped so far with around 397 miles lengthwise burrowed beneath the Earth. A single ceiling collapse or missed cavern could lead to another 500 miles going even deeper down. And with the incredible lack of knowledge we have of the Earth's interior there could easily be hundreds or thousands of systems like it throughout the Earth. Is this not a possible hollow Earth scenario? And with hundreds of miles unexplored, there's no telling the number of species that have yet to be discovered. What could possibly be dwelling in the rocks far beneath the Earth at our very feet?

It's a common misperception that the Earth is rigidly explored beneath its surface. And yet miners discover natural cave formations with surprising frequency. Sinkholes swallow entire buildings and reach deep into the Earth suggesting there are large pockets of hollow area waiting to be explored. And for every square mile on the surface of the planet there are on average thirty miles of potential exploration going down. When we take this into consideration, the total area of Earth's crust is less than one percent fully explored with untold treasures and adventures to be had lurking beneath our feet." - Cave people


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one of the "USA cave rules & regulation"

(7) About secrecy. Speleologists all over the world are obliged to struggle actively for the protection of interesting caves, though the direct aims of military actions may vary. First, these actions are directed against an obvious vandalism that is a major problem; second, they are directed against mining projects, as in the case of Cupp-Coutunn; third, against ill conceived commercial projects in caves (mainly in the USA) fourth, against cattle-breeders, who regard caves as natural traps for rams (in England). Strange as it may seem, the most widespread and universal weapon is a primitive secrecy. Under our conditions, when there is no legislation on the protection of caves, depredation prospers, though recently its center has changed from open vandalism to unadvertent savage tourism. In this case, the protection of caves may be only in the conservation of the most interesting parts until better times. In some caves and particularly, in the Cupp-Coutunn System, these times have already appeared on the horizon, but not yet in other caves. Nevertheless, even in the Cupp-Coutunn System, the most interesting places have to be kept in a strong management of conservation. The passes in the caves are not marked on maps, and in some cases the survey of the pass is not carried out. The passes are closed by artificial blockages opened only during visits by an expedition. Naturally, all these measures will not be necessary after the appearance of serious guarantees of protection; until those times, the preservation of caves is upon the consciences of investigators, and secrecy is the best way.


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"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."
Albert Einstein


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Another piece of evidence pointing towards the theory that all heavenly bodies are hollow is that, as you would expect with a hollow sphere, both the Earth and our moon are known to "ring like a bell" when hit with a shock wave.

In "Moongate: Suppressed findings of The US Space Program" (1982), Nuclear Engineer and researcher/writer William L. Brian II presents evidence proving that the moon, as any hollow sphere would, "rings" when hit by asteroids or heavy space junk. And that's not all. According to Dr. Brian, "the evidence provided by Apollo seismic experiments
also points to the conclusion that the moon is hollow and relatively rigid."

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Sep 22 2010, 08:47 PM)
Inner Earth have no telescope but developed such advance technology sending UFO through the pole doors and they don't communicate with their surface neighbor. Clearly they look down on us or they have something to hide,perhaps they are our after life, that is why only those who stumble into it before their time are sent back. Since the logic contradict with our science, they are not concern at all.
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Everyone likes logic in an answer but when the saw UFO, the question is..

1. Are we alone in this universe?
2. How do they defy gravity?
3. how they move in the speed of light?
4. what fuel their UFO?

So there is no logic to the answer above but statement, dancing light and blured picture.

Now, how do this visitor come here with great number and vanish into thin air? To accomodate this visitor require big land mass. If moon, you will see them almost everyday flying in and out of the crater with your big telescope. How about their food supply? surley they need to eat. Logic added... when out of the solar system or inner sun.
I dont see why people accept the UFO, 2012 and other but strongly against the hollow earth theory. Some people say scam in to going the north pole but people always have way to go there via caves. Pole is not the only way in.
Now there are frequent UFO sightings around the world.. you should notice that appearence of UFO is mostly around mountain area or closest to the mountain area. If you see the geography of the area, surely you can come across caves available or hidden.




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post Dec 29 2011, 08:22 PM

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Hello All, I have return after a period of long sleep. Im just gone to catch up with the theads and add new insights and infos regarding the hollow earth.

Lets start !!

Ok seems to me that its a 50 / 50 believed in Hollow earth theory. Meaning that some of you are still curious what is actually underneath us and some of you are sceptical.
Over the years goverment wants to keep us from believing the hollow earth theory and they cook up some scientific ways to explain the unexplainable. Until now no one is sure, so they have met their target. Confusion, same as the UFO theory but some already expose the UFO theory as real but still govement kept it at bay and saying it was a flare from plane and so forth. But im not towards the sky but more to our earth side.
So, now its the end of 2011, more facts about our earth is reveal daily but still keep under close supervison of the goverment.
I will answer some theads left unchecked over the months of my absent.


Added on December 29, 2011, 8:28 pmHere is the intresting part. Its regarding the Sub going to hollow earth and did send a letter back.

This is the site : http://www.ourhollowearth.com/GermanU-209.htm



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post Jan 10 2012, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(3dassets @ Jan 2 2012, 01:30 PM)
I want Hitler's email address please. While the we here are subjected to science, HELL don't "hollow earth lol"
If you read the whole theory, NO one is allowed contact outside world after they went in as a part of their "No interferance program". The USA underground goverment wont let this get out. Inner world and outer world is consider 2 different world so you will see US guarding both holes at the North and South pole. Even they screen the internet to stop certian info leaks.

You think US go North pole and claim it as their property and claim it got oil and stuff ? Nope, they wont tell you why. Same like any UFO theory which already proven by so many withness, picture and video clips. Until now it is banned and put in the closet forever.


Added on January 10, 2012, 7:49 amAlright people, lets look this in another way. Since in the times before there were goverment, a lot of people have stories to tell during their travel or encounter. As you know, in the old days, there was no maps, no internet and a lots of stuff we have today but at least there is a story that a lot of people know back then like all simmilar stories they all talk about the world underground which half a globe away was known by them even if they never met.

Take the Eskimo as example, according from their ledgends they arrive from the inner world and move to the outer world where their people stay there.


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Added on January 10, 2012, 8:14 amLeaked Clips ..




Nazi Germany side



Added on January 10, 2012, 9:13 am
QUOTE(3dassets @ Jan 3 2011, 12:06 AM)
So marine creatures can swim through loh? Maybe the dinosaurs are there too ah? TS says Hitler went there too, I wonder who else.
You guess it. No need science to explain what you think.. Unbeliever you are , but i think you believed in it. tongue.gif

Update on 4th Jan 2012

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/04/...ear-antarctica/

As you know, there are a lot of underwater volcanoes with vents around the world especially in deep deep sea but still why there are different new species near the Antartics sea ?


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post Jan 10 2012, 10:10 AM

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Ok for some who say the inside hollow earth could not support due to gravity and water all goes in and etc etc.

This video is about water in space. Do remember that it is the theory we wanted to add in of how the water in zero gravity looks like.




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post Jan 10 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Jan 10 2012, 10:25 AM)
You can't have zero gravity unless you are at the exact center of the planet. Since there's supposed to be a sun at the center of the planet, this video is not relevant to the discussion.
I could say your theory of gravity is irrelevent also due to the gravity pull. As you can see the map of the hollow earth. Outer shell, ground to space is how far? Inner gound to space is the same outside.

Unless you know how strong and far the gravity streaches.

From the theory states, the center fill with rich oxygen and zero gravity zone. Thats why the theory of water in space.

P/S - the inner sun IS in the middle.


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QUOTE(Eventless @ Jan 10 2012, 11:09 AM)
Center=Middle. Good luck disproving the current theory of gravity, space travel has pretty much confirmed it.

The only way that video can support your hollow earth theory if the bubble would appear naturally at the center of the water blob resulting in a hollow sphere. The bubble had to be added by an outside source meaning that it is not a natural occurrence. If it can't happen to a blob of water, what are the chances of it happening to a planet?
Alas, you dont understand the theory of the water in space. How i wish that water could spin, it would really give me a good insight of things. =.=~





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