As topic, which MPV would you choose in terms or practicality, maintenance wise, resale value and also functionality eg. space(to carry stock/people)

only exora is the proper mpv.alza is not multi purpose,either people or luggage and avanza is too van like.

Alza, not too big, not too small, nice price, cute, looks like a car, not a monster.

Quality wise, I would trust Alza.

http://www.driven.com.my/121/watch-driven-...s-perodua-alza/

Exora for me.. I have an Avanza 1.3 2005.. I can tell the ride is quite bumpy and shocks can be felt quite alot.. after changing to gas shock absorbers at least not that bad than original shock absorbers..
Well I don't know about the new Avanza..

Alza? doesn't look like an MPV to me lol.. too small for me even though im skinny hahaha..

So go for the Exora because for me I think its almost comparable to Innova..

Exora for sure since space is one of your criteria. It has the best.handling among the three. However power wise its underpowered. Get the manual tranny instead. Again, test drive all three vehicles to make your final choice. It's all up to personal preference

like icyd said, IMHO exora is the proper MPV here...Alza is just too small that i cannot imagine proper adults can fit in the third row... it's pretty much like an oversized myvi...

quality wise, judging from current CPS owners review not much complain on engine problem... build quality, not much of a big deal i think... they're improving but expect something here and there... but hey, even ferrari got recall...

avanza 1.3 / 1.5 ride is too bumpy. underpower.
alza 1.5 is not a proper mpv. the 3rd row seat is merely a gimmick. even a kid will grumble.
exora 1.6cps is a proper mpv but the auto gearbox need to work hard to carry the load.

conclusion; if you're not in a hurry, wait for the bigger cc / force induction cps engine on exora, which is due soon.

CPS need to be revved to get the most of it. The AT will shift at 6k++ rpm when on full throttle and kept the rev at 4k rpm for max torque.

it's the nature of the high revving campro cps engine itself. the cps in waja and exora is similar. which open up at 3.8k rpm, unlike neo cps which open up at 4.4k.
driven both auto and manual exora up to genting a couple of times with full load. auto ones will rev beyond 6.5k before gear change. on few occasion, the alternator will switch off and channeled more power to the engine.
the manual exora is a better option. still, bigger or perhaps, force induction engine will compliment the exora's real ability.

i have tested all 3 before...
if your main objective is to carry as many people as you can...and with ride comfort...go for eXora.... no question about it...

if you not really going for MPV...and need somewhate bigger space...i'll go for Alza..... because newer design and engine feels better when driving... compare to exora...

i never test drive avanza.. just sit inside...so so..not much comment and no lasting impression... old design....

alza I saw before accident.
50km/h crash.
the back row all disappear wtf?
Imagine carrying ur family and accident happen?
7 seater become 2 seater.
DUn buy alza

alza...

check the Perodua website they claim it is safe for front and side collison ONLY!
Nvr say about back collision!

new alza got reverse cam...

any noe bout the quality

exora cps underpowered...u own one or u just heard ppl tok kok? kahkahkah...of course MT would be better than AT but i own an AT exora...power wise really satisfactory...

avanza got 1.3 why nobody wanna tok kok bout it leh? my father in law owns avanza so i;ve been driving both mpv for a while now...

yeah, sat on my friend's new alza, the back seat was hardly noticeable
btw, cps is coming out a bigger cc engine? what is the displacement it could be?

how does the 1.5 avanza G specs compare to exora?

why alza back passenger door soo looonggggg, just yersterday got aunty bang really hard to my car when he want to open the door, and i see the door damn looongggg... ofcoz need space to open. now my car got deep dent. dang u alza!!

exora for me.
ada gaya ada kuasa bukan alza tetapi exora

This post has been edited by soonlee33: Sep 12 2010, 02:54 PM

are u sure? because this alza is not some local DIY car, its toyota passo sette. so i guess the jap are not so stupid when they design a car like this.

maybe the one you saw is the famous alza, hit by trailer. I think unless you're in a tank, other wise, no car can protect you from a trailer.

TS, might as well consider Nissan Grand Livina too.

yup, i am looking into the livina too, but the price is quite steep even for a used unit
but looks at power will definitely out-beat those 3 i mention

sos

Good luck hehe =)

Oh my, this is bad ...

between those 3....definitely exora
u can choose alza if u want to but dn't expect it to be 7-seater...3rd row too small
avanza...no need say....i won't even consider this

exora la of course.. win in almost every aspect..
alza 3rd row i treat it as a rear boot space je
folded most of the time

for me, i pick alza

If you are just gonna carry stuff, might as well settle for Exora.

But with Exora, it cannot meet some of yr requirement like resale value.

The old famous Unser is also an option. But it is a gas guzzler and suspension is horrible.

regards,

guess i'll stick to avanza as boot space is just right, and the 2nd hand price is great too, given that it will not depreciate a lot compare to p1 or p2

make sure to get the 1.5 variant. and you need to spend on ride improvement too.

TS, u might wanna go nissan and really really ask for a price, they will give good discount, i think the price for 1.6 is about rm8xk, and they can offer you nissan loan with lower interest rate.

Toyota avanza in my opinion is too old, its on the road for so many years already, might as well take alza, its toyota quality too. and pls, test drive all 3 of them+ grand livina, it might surprises you.

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Added on September 14, 2010, 9:33 amwhat car are you driving? let me show you so wrecked car photo, so you'll sell your current car, and when you buy another new car, i'll show you another wrecked photo.

if you choose cars by looking at this kinds of photo, i think the safest car you can buy is a pickup?

wat kind of a mentality is this? is this helping? hey, lambo and ferrari arent safe too. get a life.

even EuroNcap did not do this kind of test. looking at this photo, the alza was hit by what?? what vehicle can made this kind of damage and at what speed??

This post has been edited by stinger82: Sep 14 2010, 09:35 AM

From my observation of this thread, its not really about Alza vs Exora vs Avanza.

Its more like P1 vs P2 vs Toyota. Badge instead of features.

it will be like that whenever it will involves P1 perhaps???

then why bother asking anyway since u asked, we recommend and in the end u still get something not really recommended LOL
juz curious

exora, real mpv among 3..look cool with bodykit..
alza..stretched myvi..no cool and mpv feel at all..
avanza...this is van like..not very good, google it..

sometime, some kind of people only need the badge.

for the sake of braggin rights instead of getting a proper mpv

among the 3 choices u stated, definitely is not wise choice. My aunty was dilenma to getting these 3 models before for 2 weeks, 1 day he go to tesco and test Nissan Grand Livana 1.6, she straight away buy livina. RM 83,500 only. of coz is abit expansive compare to the 3 models u stated but for long term u will know u save alot.

I have tested Alza, all i can say is i already step the acceleration, still the car like no responce. Exora is good and solid than alza, but the FC u have to bear. Avanza is good from toyota, but this model is more than 5 years d, its a old car, come on.....

No offence but why need a long term (planning to use the car for how many years?) to save a lot while obviously you can save a lot from day 1.

the dude has made his choice.

let's close the thread and move along.

livina can get around 3k discount and 3.2% interest rate

Livina : Great FC, 1.8 deliver real great power
Exora : Nice space....way bigger than Livina/Alza/Avanza, CPS Engine great, but still bit underpowered
Alza : 3rd row problem.....quality like cheapcake plastic
Avanza : Better 3rd row than Alza, better quality, but bumpy ride, the only FR MPV between these MPVs....

livina 1.6=better resell value....

don't get exora or alza, exora=china car rebadge, alza=lot's of sound even when new car=streering vibration sound when on bumpy road and etc...

between 3,i think u should choose exora,bigger and look quite ok compare to alza and avanza

grand livina ? to expensive and tooo beautiful (especially the impul tuned)

where did u get the info

This post has been edited by xshiro: Sep 15 2010, 04:55 PM

where do u get such info?

i think is the other way round..they rebadge our Persona...no doubt also the exora
Correct me if i am wrong.

This post has been edited by muslayer: Sep 15 2010, 05:05 PM

Why bother giving recommendation if you got irritated (in a sense) when people not listening to your advice? Weird.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Sep 15 2010, 05:24 PM

funny, people actually thinks that i fancy some japs brands rather than our national brands
for everyone infos, me too driving a p1 and i love it very much

the reason why i say i would choose the avanza is because of the resale value

why is the resale value important u may ask, because this car my family is buying is not meant to be used as a family car, it it meant to carry goods
another thing is i've found a 2nd hand avanza with a good price, hence my choice

and you may wonder why i open up this thread, i was just curious how does the avanza fair among our national cars, i would also wanna know the pros and cons of each mpv, simple as that, chill la brother

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Added on September 15, 2010, 7:11 pm+1 to this anyway
annoyed of these kind of person who doesn't contribute, yet kacao bilau

This post has been edited by jolipoli81: Sep 15 2010, 07:11 PM

Not that i butthurt but juz curious why he open this thread and ask which is better and when most said A is better, he choose B haha.. the art of trolling?
Dont terasa la, juz my curiosity

did I mention 'please recommend me this and that...' or 'is A better than B'?

same la..
just like i ask u all A B or C is beautiful?
all said A, but i think i choose C..
it was like "banyak ikan" aka redundant

but of course, the money is yours, the decision is yours.. u can open up any thread u wan, i cant even bother with it but juz curious about it.. cheers

Proper MPV ?

Toyota Estima.

naza citra is also not bad..2.0L for just 60k

This post has been edited by xshiro: Sep 16 2010, 05:43 AM

I would choose Avanza 1.3L manual anyway if I really need some cheap vehicle with reasonable 3rd row, a 2nd blower and a more reliable config (I mean FR).

Or if they had Rush 1.5L manual then I would take it instead (if the price is right).

toyota rush realy bad handling. own a manual model. unstable when speed reach more thn 110kmh. kl-jb at rm65 fuel ron95[today price]

proper sedan? bmw 7 series
proper suv? porsche cayenne
proper hatchback? VW golf

:x:x

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Added on September 16, 2010, 2:08 pmrush supposingly to be the luxury version of the avanza i think.. but avanza still consider stable at 110km/h but thats maybe coz i changed to stiffer absorber la.. anyway, what u expect for such a tall car with poor width

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Sep 16 2010, 02:08 PM

citra not bad too.

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Added on September 16, 2010, 4:42 pmheard avanza 1.3 no power and need to rev quite high, was sitting in one before, in town driving also until 4000 rpm.

If buy avanza 1.5, the price is very near to G Livina already. G Livina can over trade, and can get more discount.

IMHO, avanza very old dy. dunno how many years. G Livina is about 3 years old. exora and alza youngest la. But P1 and P2, ppl very skeptical.

This post has been edited by stinger82: Sep 16 2010, 04:42 PM

i would probably compare exora to innova.exora only win on the price. performance wise almost the same. too bad monster import tax kills innova pricing.

but the 1.3L avanza auto in mah hse so far got no problem in term of engine and gearbox.. yes, i do rev till red line most of the time coz the engine is powerless and the gearbox ratio is very small!

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Added on September 16, 2010, 5:43 pmbtw, mine is first batch which means about 6 years of ownership.. got la minor problem like power window and water seeping in but the engine and gearbox i have to give for reliability

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Sep 16 2010, 05:43 PM

GO BUY TANKER..LORI TANKER...THIS PIC WILL NOT EVEN SEE AGAINS....WAHAHAHAHAHA.....

citra is svae petrol???

exora.

alone = so fast
full 7 = less acceleration, but if full people, of course i dont want to go so fast liao. got 7 souls inside

ermm any idea how is d resell value for a used avanza 1.3 auto 2005/2007

To good. Check Mudah, think it should be around 40k... Totally not worth it.

Try riding a horse first before deciding for avanza.... all your passanger will complain to u for buying a horse....

ermm is it really so wors../???cant change essobar soft this>

If you are the driver, you wont feel that much, the 3rd row is the worse
I bought exora bold instead

EXORA - space cabin -ok, power ok, quality engine unpredictable
ALZA - - my dad and my bro own one, space cabin suckers (cannnot be consider mpv), power ok (since it more little, quality engine (good), other material quality ? SUCKERS..proton exora more good on material (please dont compare with FLX material quality coz FLX sucks too in term of material)
AVANZA - space cabin lay between those 2, power ok, quality engine ok, comfort? hell no.

conclusion is, best buy cherry.. hahaha

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Added on September 30, 2012, 11:33 amfrom 3 of them exora bold is best to be consider MPV



This post has been edited by diadokmai: Sep 30 2012, 11:33 AM

Basically under 100k mpv, all got at least one drawback

Exora bold - CFE engine not perfect, quite a lot of owner complaint on mainly about the valve. It can be fix, but it is unsure if it will appear back later on. It is noisy too. CPS engine is good, but power output not enough to accelerate fast.

Avanza - The ride is not comfortable, the chassis is not a true MPV chassis. The 3rd row passenger will suffer the most.

Innova - similar with avanza exceot bigger space

Grand livina - for me and my family, i find it not spacious enough. Maybe it just me

Alza - Small, and various quality issue

This post has been edited by neo1point3: Sep 30 2012, 01:52 PM

I drive a Kangoo. Main problems: engine not powerful, auto gearbox is a steaming pile of ..., but then again it is a 4 speed. I doubt other 4 speeds are much better.

Apart from that it is comfortable, even in the 3rd row (adults can easily fit, but leg room is a bit limited).

Noise isolation could be better, especially from the engine compartment, but the car does feel solid and has a 4 star EuroNCAP rating. The Avanza has a 3 star CNCAP rating, which is a much less strict test, testing at lower speeds.

Sliding doors are great and very useful. And the car can be bought for around 20k (new 70+).

I mean it is good enough for many European families, it should be good enough for us too then. On the other hand the Avanza is not good enough for Europe. They don't even try to sell it.

ermm is it really so wors../???cant change essobar soft this>

Why buy a car and then change everything? Shouldn't the car suit your needs in the first place? Especially when there are so many better options on the market, some of them quite a bit cheaper.

Keep in mind that the Avanza was developed in Indonesia, for Indonesia, as a cheap way of getting around. A cheap taxi basically. It was never meant to be safe or in any way good, and to be honest I don't really trust Indonesian engineers to be good at developing cars. I'd rather trust Malaysian engineers.

i owned my alza for almost 2 years, to be honest..im very much regret of getting this car. Rattling noise everywhere, sound insulation is horrible, power still acceptable for non full load and ride is ok compare to avanza or unser. Comfortable 1st and 2nd row seats. If u buying one, add on sound insulation on the floor area and door it will be good enuf atleast 30-40% improve on the noise and rattling noise.

I think the best description for avanza ride

I wouldn't even recommend it...

Hm. I have been in a (new) Alza, and the ride acceptable. Softer than Cross Touran, harder than Kangoo. Seats were fine, no complaints. In terms of noise it's also not too bad. A Cross Touran is more refined (and also much more expensive), a Kangoo is a bit noisier, especially at higher speeds where the tiny mouse in the engine bay is struggling. Rattling in the Kangoo, yes, a bit, but mostly because engine mounting etc. has to be replaced. But it's a 7 year old car, so that is acceptable.