yes. some of the color have shimmer.
if u wan to try out black color becareful when u purchase because they have black pearl and pure black.
still love mj because is cheaper

Cyber Colours (RM39.90) larrr... or KATE (RM49.90)... but Cyber Colours is the best.... Cheap, no smudge, deep colours... I'm not joking bout this either...

u can try koji eye liner pen, gel liner still not good for oily skin..

my fav will definitely be bobbi brown's gel eyeliner.

if you want a cheaper one you can try maybelline gel eye liner too.

I love gel eyeliner that is really black!

Do you have the Koji pen one? Is that the long lasting one, i've seen adds for that and wondered how good is it.
Do you know if it has 'brush' like tip or marker pen tip?

ya.. much more long lasting than gel as i have tried many type of eye liners.
It is just a pen and can draw out very fine line..

MAC has the best gel liner. Always sold out

hi, just sharing. as 2 prevent eye liner frm smudging, can apply eyeshadow on top. as 4 those that r worried about gel liner frm drying, can try cream type 1. sasatinie has them. havent try b4, but frm the tester, the eye liner seems like creamy or like powder. 1 more thing, after taking the gel liner frm the bottle, remember 2 close the lid or invert the bottle as this can prevent drying. i try kate gel liner b4, BK01. i like it n 2 me, it is black enough. hope this helps.

bobbi brown gel liner is good... i heard maybelline's good too!

I like MAC fluidline, but best is Bobbi Brown, although the latter dries a lot faster than MAC.

Where can I get non-waterproof gel eyeliner?

I just bought Kate's. It's good. I use it for casual outings. The color is not that intense.

try priming your eyes? it helps to reduce your shadows from creasing.. Cause im sure eyeliner is not you only product that you use on yout lids:)

yes!!! thanks for your advice.....
using eye primer from etude house will help unsmudge crease for almost 8am to 6pm... hehe.....

indeed.. I love Bobbi Brown gel liner.. It did a great job.. It last for the whole day... so far i still love it the max...

hm... i used Bobbi Brown before but gosh...it smudged teruk teruk
Now I've changed to Shu. Still smudge but lesser. Still i think liquid works the best but gel liner easier & faster to apply... Got any product combi benefit from Gel & liquid eyeliner ma~??? i will rush to buy de...

MAC Gel eyeliner is the best among the best !
My friend study at make up academy , they all used this brand one..

Do you try bobby brown?

I'm using Maybelline's Gel Liner, although I'm going to switch back to liquid liner or pencil liner because I'm lazy to wash the brush.

i jus wondering ..waterproof means no smudging? as far as i know, eyeliner smudges because of oil, not water.