how do you know you can get more?

I get theat you can try headhunting & getting contacts, but not everyone has contacts. If i have contacts, i wouldn't need to go through these processes.

if you did not write any amount, is it possible that the HR might just skip through your resume? (just my assumption but hey, it's possible)

ok, i get that you can hide your current salary. But expected salary is hard to hide. Since rule no 1 of interview is not asking about salary, how to lure them to tell you the salary? Even if you did not write in the form, sooner or late someone will need to give an amount. They will ask you in the middle of the interview.

in my current company, the hiring manager already given an amount to hire, so hr is is just doing the paper work.

I wouldn't want them to call my company either. Ever since i heard my HOD said: don't ever wish to survive in this industry after this! pity the guy... who knows what your superior will say to your future company? i wouldn't want to bet that.

and my previous boss has brunt bridges with me as he don't want to pay my EPF, i sued him.

just tell them don't have lor... i did it too. Actually my last company have, but very hard to get from them. I just tell hr, the chinaman company don't provide. Then they ask me for offer letter, so i only give offer letter.

hmm... i can only agree part of your statement. Unfortunately we also live in a sad world where some people are not willing to move a muscle to help others.

I used contacts before but unfortunately the hiring manager did not give me a good offer, and the position isn't what i wanted. So, back to drawing board.

I befriend a person not because to get advantage from them. I befriend a person for companionship.



Why you don't have that problem? I do not know as i do not know you personally. Maybe you have a lot of contact that can help you to become a successful person. Maybe you are lucky. Maybe you do know a lot of tauke. But not everyone has that. I come from a middle class family. My parents aren't in the same field as i pursue. Their friends are mostly from their industry. So how would that help me? My friends are mostly from middle class families too. Working experience less than 5 years. Would that me to get a job? Probably able to get me to the interview. But still i need to face the interview myself. The hiring manager will still try his best to minimize the salary. Whether the manager is going to hire me or not? Another story.


I'm not pointing fingers to anyone i know. Everyone has good friends and not so good friends. This is life. You see that in movies. These things happen in real life too. I have good friends that help me through life, not related to my career path but yes, they are there when i need them. Not many but yes, they exist. As i said, you do not know me or my friends.


Hello,

You don't know me, please do not talk like as if you do. I help my friends & family whenever i can. But if you're interested to find out whether i'm a helpful person or not, please check my post history.

When you point your finger to me, please remember...

yes, you should have their salaries combined.

Wow, so you just kick off anyone that didn't help your career? Ok, fine.

I don't befriend someone just to gain advantage. I don't ask for something back.

Friends that helps me in need can be in any form. Even moral support is helpful if they can't help me directly. I'm happy to have friends that i can talk to when i'm down. Giving encouraging words or just be there, listen to your stories. That's a friend in need. But i guess you wouldn't understand that.


Actually, most of my interviews are directly from the hiring manager. Without contacts. No difference also. HR only do paperwork. Actually HR already gave a budget to the manager. Manager is the one that tries to minimize budget when hiring us. Why i know this? My HOD is just sitting behind me. I'm able to listen his conversations.

This post has been edited by fearless_kiki: Oct 7 2014, 08:21 AM

thank you chow again, you've said it better than me.