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 New employer asking for my latest payslips, wondering on why ?

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cannyeo
post Nov 11 2015, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Dec 19 2014, 11:07 AM)
Folks,

Let me explain this to you simply.

1) HR Scumbag

They do not care whether the candidate can do the job.  They are judged to be successful as long as they get someone under the budget.  If the person turn out to be useless, it is not a HR problem. HR still get good performance review, pay raise, and bonuses for hiring under budget.

2) Hiring Manager

He / she has a budget to hire someone to do a job that can make a few times his / her salary for the company.  As long as the person can prove that he / she can do the job profitably, the salary is not a problem.  Hiring Manager DO NOT CARE about previous salary.  Hiring Manager are held accountable for the person's performance.  If this person failed, the hiring manager may be fired too.

Now, isn't OBVIOUS to you that what kind of people try to persuade people to show their previous salary??

Dreamer
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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Dec 26 2014, 04:40 PM)
A few years ago, I made the mistake of providing my payslips (without blanking out the amounts) to a prospective employer after passing all the interviews, and ended up not getting the job even though the hiring manager was keen on hiring me. The HR department's reason was that they found a better candidate who fit their budget, so I assumed my current salary then was too low since it was only one third of the new job's salary.

Perhaps they believed I wasn't good enough for the job since my salary was so low (which I blame not only the company I was working for then, but also myself). It didn't matter if I had the right knowledge, skills, and attitude. It didn't matter if I could get the job done. They saw how much I was getting paid, and apparently, that was how much I was worth.

I have since learnt from that bitter experience, and am now getting a five-figure salary based on the job I'm doing, and not how much I was paid in my previous jobs.
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The comments above are abit old, but let me justify it.

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cannyeo
post Nov 11 2015, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 11 2015, 10:49 PM)
i thought with the new privacy ruling you can allow not to show.
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Yes, you may choose not to show. But on what basis should the employer follow to offer you a remuneration package.

Sadly in Malaysia, showcase of salary slip is a common practice for MNCs. This is to verify your past employment and to facilitate a job offer.




cannyeo
post Nov 12 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 12 2015, 10:46 AM)
So it's a matter of whether you want your new employer more or your new employer wants you more.
Generally if you know that the hiring manager wants you, you can opt not to give as generally it's a HR practice, not the Hiring manger practice.

There is no rule saying you have to give. You can say that you don't want to give. Then it's up to the employer whether to continue hiring you or to continue negotiating salary with you.
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Went through that, the hiring manager immediately change his mind and KIV the candidate instead.

Feedback was that, this is an attitude problem.

Well, please don't get me wrong, im just passing the experience here. I'm not the one who say people whom refused to show payslip has attitude problem, some employers think so.

 

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