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TSThe Scourge
post Sep 5 2010, 02:57 AM, updated 16y ago

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Hello All,

Here's a weird 'problem' which is apparently quite widespread with no solution in sight (for lots of HTC Android phone models).

Intermittently, when I press the HOME button on my HTC Wildfire, I get prompted with 'Complete action with':

1) Home (the standard Android Home screen))
2) HTC Sense UI

So, what's the problem?

Well, HTC Sense should be the default, the way it was out of the box and up to just a day ago. Though I check the button that makes Sense the default for this action it never sticks.

Also, HTC Sense now appears as a running application when I long-press the HOME button (task switcher) when it never used to appear there before.

I've tried going to Settings>Applications>Manage applications and under HTC Sense, cleared defaults and re-set HTC Sense as the default but the 'Complete action with' dialogue still pops up every time after I long -press the Home button. I'm not running Launcher Pro or any other app which might interfere with the Home screen - everything was fine before so nothing should have changed and I suspect it's a bug.

Anyone know how to get rid of the HOME application / setting so I that when I press the HOME button on my phone it works the way it originally was supposed to (i.e. defaults to Sense UI)?

Alternatively, is it safe to uninstall the standard Android Home app which is part of the system if I don't want it? Would doing this interfere with Sense UI or the Android OS?

Thanks a bunch!

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post Sep 5 2010, 10:24 AM

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Did you install any launchers or lock screen softwares by any chance? Those could have affected your home button.
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post Sep 6 2010, 09:23 PM

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Tks for replying! I've got No Lock installed but it was working fine with that for weeks and the problem only came recently while I never got it before even with No Lock enabled.

My other question is if its safe to uninstall the standard Android Home application? Would that be like uninstalling the Android OS itself or would it not matter since HTC Sense is already there?

HTC has only responded to say that I should do a hard reset, but I'd only try that as a last resort. It's just baffling since everything was fine before and I've not made any radical change or installed any app that might take over the Home screen. The dialogue choice is to Complete Action with Home (Android standard Home screen) or HTC Sense anyway. I suspect its not really a hardware problem but just that the OS can't remember which setting is default...
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post Sep 6 2010, 10:33 PM

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Actually, instead of using the Sense as default, set "Home" as the default. The Sense is actually a bloatware rather than a launcher itself. Usually, this only happens when there are two launchers available. Do be careful with launchers. Uninstalling them is not impossible, but your phone may terribly crash with improper uninstallation (and if there is no valid launcher installed thereafter).

Do you have root on your phone? Are you running a custom ROM? If your answer is yes to these two, that will make your life a lot easier actually.


Added on September 6, 2010, 10:34 pmI'm subscribed to this thread and will see how it goes smile.gif Usually there is a way out of Android when something like this happens.

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post Sep 6 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 6 2010, 10:33 PM)
Actually, instead of using the Sense as default, set "Home" as the default. The Sense is actually a bloatware rather than a launcher itself. Usually, this only happens when there are two launchers available. Do be careful with launchers. Uninstalling them is not impossible, but your phone may terribly crash with improper uninstallation (and if there is no valid launcher installed thereafter).

Do you have root on your phone? Are you running a custom ROM? If your answer is yes to these two, that will make your life a lot easier actually.


Added on September 6, 2010, 10:34 pmI'm subscribed to this thread and will see how it goes smile.gif Usually there is a way out of Android when something like this happens.
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the Wildfire still does not have a full root access, it only has now a softroot which will be disabled upon reboot. Too bad for the wildfire, there arent many devs working around it up till now.
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post Sep 6 2010, 10:39 PM

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Uh oh..Wildfire is the ONLY Android phone that I have not played with so far :S

So, have you tried setting Home as your default launcher?
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post Sep 6 2010, 11:22 PM

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aiya, just install launcherPro/adw launcher and set it as default lancher la...
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:59 AM

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I do agree with whitegoh, but that's not the ultimate solution though. Its still user's preference to choose which launcher he want to use.

Me? I'm ADW fan smile.gif
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post Sep 7 2010, 08:53 AM

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HTC Sense is ok what. It's not completely useless until being call a bloatware. I wouldn't call it bloatware since I have use all of their features.

I use ADW too but it feels abit unrefined on the wildfire atleast. Still, frequent updates ironing out some kinks at a time, which is good.
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LOL..Did I say HTC Sense sucks or what not? Bloatware is a term that is used for software that is force-packaged with a particular system, which uses RAM and storage space excessively with little or no benefit. Doesn't mean that thing is useless.
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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 7 2010, 09:03 AM)
LOL..Did I say HTC Sense sucks or what not? Bloatware is a term that is used for software that is force-packaged with a particular system, which uses RAM and storage space excessively with little or no benefit. Doesn't mean that thing is useless.
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Dude, since when I say you said HTC Sense sucks?

Bloatware term is subjective from 1 user to another. Everybody are entitled to their own satisfaction as I have my own.
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post Sep 7 2010, 09:17 AM

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From your statement, it was as if I was calling HTC Sense useless and that it doesn't deserve to be called a "bloatware"..lol..

What should I call a bloatware if not a bloatware?
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post Sep 7 2010, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 7 2010, 09:17 AM)
From your statement, it was as if I was calling HTC Sense useless and that it doesn't deserve to be called a "bloatware"..lol..

What should I call a bloatware if not a bloatware?
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Aiya don't misunderstand my statement la. Bloatware is a subjective term, which is the grey area for most users. Just like calling Touch Wiz, Moto Blur a bloatware.

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post Sep 7 2010, 11:03 AM

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i guess it's just misunderstanding.. i dont think Shahz meant any negative thing by saying HTC Sense as bloatware..
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irenic - its not even a bad thing to call Sense a bloatware coz thats exactly what it is called. lol. Chill man~ I'm just here to help The Scourge out because he sent me a special invitational PM to help him here.
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Sometimes I wish Android would do away with the custom UI support. Its getting so annoying and its hurting the performance. Especially Motorola and Samsung, these are two very major offenders.

When the Motorola Droid first came out, it was a large success partly due to its outstanding hardware as well as its stock software. But when the Droid2 came, instead of stock software it came with this crap called MotoBlur. From the various videos about it I can deduce that the performance on the Droid2 to be vastly inferior to that on the original Droid, despite the much better hardware and Froyo.

Samsung on the other hand had been an offender since the beginning. Look at the horrible interface on the Samsung Behold II. Even the Galaxy S' interface looks like rubbish. Thankfully its powerful hardware had helped bypass the unpleasant experience.

Oh well, we just have to see Android 3.0 then.

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post Sep 7 2010, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 7 2010, 12:30 PM)
irenic - its not even a bad thing to call Sense a bloatware coz thats exactly what it is called. lol. Chill man~ I'm just here to help The Scourge out because he sent me a special invitational PM to help him here.
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post Sep 7 2010, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Sep 6 2010, 10:39 PM)
Uh oh..Wildfire is the ONLY Android phone that I have not played with so far :S

So, have you tried setting Home as your default launcher?
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U really played all of those android phones except Wildfire ? shocking.gif

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QUOTE(chyen @ Sep 7 2010, 04:10 PM)
U really played all of those android phones except Wildfire ?  shocking.gif

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im having a samsung galaxy i7500, my homescreen seems to have 3 clocks, how to remove the clocks?? very confusing, as i tried the settings,and it says only add, no remove options there..how??
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QUOTE(etapanag @ Sep 7 2010, 05:27 PM)
im having a samsung galaxy i7500, my homescreen seems to have 3 clocks, how to remove the clocks?? very confusing, as i tried the settings,and it says only add, no remove options there..how??
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long pressing the clock, drag and throw them into dusbin.

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