i post reincarnation argument b4 in buddhist retreat:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=35582010QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 04:07 PM)
i'm quite skeptical on reincarnation concept.. there's a paradox...

in 1800 the population of the world estimate about 1 billion, after 2000 the ultimate increase of population to 6 billion + and growing...
if we die then reincarnate to somebody else, the rate of population should be stable or flat liner on chart...
QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 13 2010, 04:11 PM)
if you say reincarnate to soemthing else is possible, then you should logically also include that somethign else can also reincarnate back to the human world, no?
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 13 2010, 04:15 PM)
probably explain the dwindling of animal population
QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
well the buddha said we are not the only place in this world system that has humans... there are other 3 places, with much longer lifespan than the humans on Earth. (within this world system).
Plus, there are 30 more worlds a being can land to, from the heavily populated Avici hell to the least populated highest realm of neither perception nor non-perception.
QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 13 2010, 04:18 PM)
Haha...i was having the same question previously, when my understanding of Buddhism was very vague (i am hardly an expert now, but just know a little bit more).
1) In Buddhism, the concept is RE-BIRTH, not RE-INCARNATION. Re-incarnation is in Hinduism. A re-birth is not the same because in Buddhism, there is no soul. It's like you drop a drop of water into the stream, the stream flows to the end. Another drop of water emerge from the stream, this drop of water that emerge again is not exactly the same as the drop of water that enters the stream.
2) Re-birth doesn't always gets you back into the human world. There are many planes of existence in Buddhism. You can go to higher plane or go to lower plane. It can be the same physical plane as us...rebirth into an animal world, or worst....other planes of existence which we do not see. (There are also higher plane of existence we do not see...).
Also, Buddhism acknowledge other worlds of existence...you might not be even rebirth to this planet.
So you see, the chart of only human beings on this planet in this plane of existence is not a correct way to gauge rebirth.
QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 04:21 PM)
if add in animal factor, there's farming industri that breeds food (cow, chicken, rabbit, crocs... etc,etc) with is million more produce per square inch compare to animals that perishing in nature ... so it should be more too.... not less....
QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 04:31 PM)
lulz...
this 1 Parallel universe liao... Quantum Theory tear my mind.. Buddha so keng, know Quantum Theory long time ago..
QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 13 2010, 04:38 PM)
Not parallel universe lar. Only multiple realms of existence. Other religions also have wat...but only less...etc Heaven, Hell and Earth.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 14 2010, 06:59 AM)
but we destroy environment. Environment consist of not only food... it also have micro-organism. Imagine hectar of green.
How many animal and micro-organism in it...
QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 14 2010, 12:46 PM)
micro-organism in the forest is much less than those factories (yogurt, beer, wine, sewage treatment ... etc etc) in terms of production rate per cubic inch (nature rate is fix, man produced is still growing)...