I have used Bardahl semi 10W 40 once before @ 10K km oil change & I find that my car does not run as smoothly as when I am using Delphi semi 10W 40. Did you buy the Bardahl @ RM65-something? Its contents is measured in quarts instead of litres. I also feel Fully syn. is a waste of money on the Persona. If you have a lot of $ or you can buy Fully syn. cheap, by all means, us it. By the way, I have used my own lube all this time.

Already mentioned here. Bout the same price as Bardahl.

I don't know where you are from but if you are from KL or PJ or anywhere in the Klang valley, you have plenty of choices. Just buy them from big reputable spare parts shops & you will get a good price. I cannot reveal my source because I get it at wholesale but if you are familiar with the 3rd. Mile Jalan Ipoh area in KL, go to the biggest spare parts shop there & you can choose from a host of lubes there. If you are in PJ, there are the SS2 & Section 8 area with many established spare part shops also. Like I say before, I have already found the most ideal lube for my car (in terms of $ & performance) & it is entirely up to you to find yours. As for recommendations, please spend some time reading the past threads here.

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Added on September 3, 2010, 9:55 pmIt is 4 lit. I normally remove about 0.25 lit. from the new pack before letting anyone change my engine oil. The car does not require 4 lit. Actually, 3.6 lit. is still acceptable. The only time I did not use this brand is because my regular suppliers ran out of stocks. Their brake pads are IMHO superior also.

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Added on September 3, 2010, 10:14 pmDude. How old is you car? Mine is going to be 1 year next week (almost 17K Km) & there are not any abnormal music coming from anywhere except the engine humming normally. Either I am deaf or your sense of hearing is like a bloodhound. If it is confirmed that this so called orifice thing is the fault, why didn't Proton insist their supplier to pre-fix it into the steering pump reservoir before assembling it into the car? I thought this problem have been eliminated for new cars.

This post has been edited by rckh: Sep 3 2010, 10:14 PM

The belt you see at the outside of the engine is the auxiliary drive belt (i.e when you start the engine, it connects the crankshaft, alternator, A/Con compressor, water pump & power steering pump - all via a series of pulleys thus enabling all these components to run simultaneously)

Drive belts are made from one giant roll with no joints. Just like a swiss roll. You cut it to size. I bet it is not a manufacturers defect. It cannot be happening to just one or few cases. It is most definitely an installation problem - at engine assembly stage.

May I know, that is if you have any idea, how many litres of ATF is required for a complete change. Original 4 litres Mitsubishi SP-III cost around RM90. Did you use Proton ATF from SC or your own ATF?

Thanks for d info. I'll try to use my own oil when i do d ATF change.

Does anyone ever encounter problem of switching off radio even after ignition is switched off? If so, how do you solve tihs problem?

I can't switch off the radio

I tried that before. Alarm went off. I felt like a car thief. I thought radio power is controlled by ignition switch.

Thanks for the advice. Not a serious problem & I can only hope it does not happen often. Can be very annoying. Pulling out radio fuse won't solve problem.

That's what I have been doing since my first service. Bought my own semi syn lube, poured out excess amount of new pack to another container before heading off to SC. SC cannot reject my lube. because it is a reputable brand & far more superior than recommended spec.

Don't be alarm. This is normal. For me, the sound came and gone after awhile. Brake parts need breakin-in period also.

To all concerned. Can we not discuss FC anymore. Persona is definitely a "gas guzzler" period - because of its sturdy build. Try to enjoy your ride & not think too much of every $ burning out of the exhaust tailpipe. There are definitely many more economical rides out there for the fuel conscious to choose from.

My advice to all those potential buyers of the Persona who are considering this car - If you cannot afford the petrol, opt for something smaller.

Front or Rear?

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Added on September 19, 2010, 10:56 pmDid you get any compensation from the Perodua driver? Or are you making a claim from the other party's insurance? Either way, hard luck.

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Part prices only:- Rr.Motor RH (RM 106.50)
Rr. Regulator RH (RM 83.65)

If warranty expired,try to DIY yourself. But removing the window glass can be quite tricky.

Have been driving mine since Sept. 2009 so it is 1 yr. 2 weeks already ( 17K Km+) today. I must admit that I run mostly on good surfaces (good roads) & I try my best not to make small U-turns or maximum steering wheel turns. I have this notion that doing so will hasten the tearing of both the drive shaft boots & steering tie-rod boots. I am quite surprise you say there are so many Personarians with this knocking sound because mine has none whatsoever.

Come to think of it, I don't see how this so-called valve can solve the problem. The valve serves to allow a one way flow of the power steering fluid & nothing more. And I don't see any valve in the tube below the power steering fluid container of my car. I strongly suspect the guys at the SC inserted the valve as well as tightening the bolt/nuts of all the suspension & steering components. If they did it well. The sound would be minimize or eliminated.

No one knows exactly how many Personas have this problem. It could be an isolated problem (i.e more cars are without this problem rather than with)
Don't you think that Proton,by now, would have told the power steering component supplier to insert this valve into the tube before they assemble the car? Inserting the valve into the tube is not exactly an easy job. They have to remove the fluid,pull out the tube, insert the valve & re-insert the fluid. Too labour intensive & time wasting for all concerned.

What I meant is, I avoid making U-Turns. For the benefit of those who does not know where the valve is installed or how it looks like. Try going back to V7 of LYN sometime in April 12th. 2010 :-

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1334988/+1320

Where did you get a pair of Frt. Brake disc @ this price? Proton retailing @ RM 257.55 each . What about those with disc @ the back also? Proton Rr. disc is RM 225.37 each. What about labour cost?

Disc. The round metal thing. Is the shop selling original ones? They are safety items. Cannot afford for them to fail.

Thanks for the info.