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post Oct 13 2010, 10:03 PM

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hi, sorry to bump in just like that.... i'm more familiar with heartgard+frontline.... can i noe what was ur vet's comment/review on revolution? like does it have effectiveness/side effects?
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post Oct 13 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(yeowa @ Oct 13 2010, 07:48 PM)
Just now I went to hands and paws vet to get revolution and saw the frontline for puppy between 1-10kgs is selling for RM66 only. Should be able to get for rm64 also if u know the doc personally. I will use revolution on messi on long term basis as it is a more economical as it give more protection like heartworm, mites and maige. Some of you might want to consider revolution instead of frontline + heartgard. smile.gif
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Just to state my opinion smile.gif
I still prefer giving heartgard+drontal for deworming and Front line spot on combo for ticks preventions. In my opinion giving things separately as in Heartgard for heart worm, drontal for deworming and front line for tick prevention suits me better thou the price is not cheap. This is because I believe things that came in package as in Revolution (included all) might not contains all 100% prevention for all types of heartworm etc. I'm not saying heartgard, drontal n front line do provide 100% either but I've been using these products for 2 years and so far so good so I'm gonna stick with it. I just hope the price not going to increase in the future xD
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post Oct 13 2010, 10:58 PM

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I didn't know there's such combination ... but feels weird because frontline is targeting fleas etc and heartgard in heartworm which is internal. 2 serve different functions, I do wonder how both can work at the same time.
Revolution is internal or external use?
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post Oct 14 2010, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(CyaNide27 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:03 PM)
hi, sorry to bump in just like that.... i'm more familiar with heartgard+frontline.... can i noe what was ur vet's comment/review on revolution? like does it have effectiveness/side effects?
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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:30 PM)
Just to state my opinion smile.gif
I still prefer giving heartgard+drontal for deworming and Front line spot on combo for ticks preventions. In my opinion giving things separately as in Heartgard for heart worm, drontal for deworming and front line for tick prevention suits me better thou the price is not cheap. This is because I believe things that came in package as in Revolution (included all) might not contains all 100% prevention for all types of heartworm etc. I'm not saying heartgard, drontal n front line do provide 100% either but I've been using these products for 2 years and so far so good so I'm gonna stick with it. I just hope the price not going to increase in the future xD
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QUOTE(suzannetan @ Oct 13 2010, 10:58 PM)
I didn't know there's such combination ... but feels weird because frontline is targeting fleas etc and heartgard in heartworm which is internal. 2 serve different functions, I do wonder how both can work at the same time.
Revolution is internal or external use?
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Hello all. Here is my story. When I first brought Messi home, after few days he started scratching. Thought it was just a habit until I asked my Vet during his first jab that he loves to scratch. The vet suspect mites problem and say that problem can be settle with jabs later. After that he still scratching and I see more of mites related symptoms, dandruff stick hard to the skin. I brought him to the same vet but different person attend to me this time. There was a concern for messi to get skin jabs cause he was only 11weeks then. The vet said it might affect his liver and reconfirm with the senior vet. To be safe, they introducer me to revolution which is applied externally like frontline. To be honest, I have no knowledge about frontline and only know about heartgard after third jab! After a week the dandruff came off and he scratches less. Mites attack bold him at certain part of his body and took more than a.month to show the sign of new hair growing.

For the pass few weeks I have been considering the combination of frontline + heartgard and revolution. Until just now when I was at the vet, I was still comparing. One thing about revolution is very hard to find. This product is relatively new in d market and what I can say is messi is healthy for the past 3 months.

Btw, messi is using revolution for kitten below 2.5kgs. Vet say can be used for both dogs and cats. smile.gif

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:21 AM

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Well I get your point smile.gif
the thing is... I only applied front line when I plan to bring my girls out for a walk in the park or out for holiday in which I'm practically very sensitive towards 'ticks' I bought tick shampoo and shower them with it once a month. As for heartgard, I gave them every month and drontal for 6 months once? for deworming.

Since your vet recommend it to you and you've been using it well. I guess you should stick with it. As for me or other ppl who do good with our combination I think we should stick to it either. unless if they want to try la..but for me I scared to try any new things on them so I would just stick to what I've been doing all the while laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2010, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(muchan86 @ Oct 14 2010, 01:21 AM)
Well I get your point smile.gif
the thing is... I only applied front line when I plan to bring my girls out for a walk in the park or out for holiday in which I'm practically very sensitive towards 'ticks' I bought tick shampoo and shower them with it once a month. As for heartgard, I gave them every month and drontal for 6 months once? for deworming.

Since your vet recommend it to you and you've been using it well. I guess you should stick with it. As for me or other ppl who do good with our combination I think we should stick to it either. unless if they want to try la..but for me I scared to try any new things on them so I would just stick to what I've been doing all the while laugh.gif
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I think it is very normal la. If I started with heartgard+frontline, I might not be using revolution. You might want to search revolution for puppies online to learn more as revolution also covers mites and mange which can be spread through dogs. Revolution covers heartworm prevention, flea controls, ear mite treatment n tick control.
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post Oct 14 2010, 10:48 PM

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Right everyone will just stick to what they're familiar or comfortable with, if so far so good I don't think we really need to change the routine.

Whereas for me I chose the heartgard SR-12 jab, so far so good started since she was only 4 months old and just took another one to last until next year. I opt for yearly instead or giving every month because I'm pretty sure I may forget one day tongue.gif

Then for frontline this has been working very well for me as well, once she caught soooo much of them until they climb all over my house walls and floor. After frontline usage for around 2-3weeks results start coming in and lasted longer than what I thought ..
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post Oct 14 2010, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(suzannetan @ Oct 14 2010, 10:48 PM)
Right everyone will just stick to what they're familiar or comfortable with, if so far so good I don't think we really need to change the routine.

Whereas for me I chose the heartgard SR-12 jab, so far so good started since she was only 4 months old and just took another one to last until next year. I opt for yearly instead or giving every month because I'm pretty sure I may forget one day tongue.gif

Then for frontline this has been working very well for me as well, once she caught soooo much of them until they climb all over my house walls and floor. After frontline usage for around 2-3weeks results start coming in and lasted longer than what I thought ..
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i wanted to inject my pup with heartgard too
but the vet showed me the needle for heartgard
so big
at last i chose the oral heartgard
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post Oct 14 2010, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(suzannetan @ Oct 14 2010, 10:48 PM)
Right everyone will just stick to what they're familiar or comfortable with, if so far so good I don't think we really need to change the routine.

Whereas for me I chose the heartgard SR-12 jab, so far so good started since she was only 4 months old and just took another one to last until next year. I opt for yearly instead or giving every month because I'm pretty sure I may forget one day tongue.gif

Then for frontline this has been working very well for me as well, once she caught soooo much of them until they climb all over my house walls and floor. After frontline usage for around 2-3weeks results start coming in and lasted longer than what I thought ..
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How much is the heartgard jab? I just get to know from friend just now. He told me the jab covers ticks as well. So many to learn... smile.gif
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post Oct 15 2010, 02:23 AM

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post Oct 15 2010, 03:19 PM

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hi, any sifu recommend me a reputable breeder for me? planning buy one poodle.. i'm new here.
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post Oct 16 2010, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(jen_jen @ Oct 14 2010, 10:59 PM)
i wanted to inject my pup with heartgard too
but the vet showed me the needle for heartgard
so big
at last i chose the oral heartgard
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Hahaha that one is kinda bigger than the normal one, very fast in 5 seconds done, my girl thick skin she don't feel anything

QUOTE(yeowa @ Oct 14 2010, 11:23 PM)
How much is the heartgard jab? I just get to know from friend just now. He told me the jab covers ticks as well. So many to learn... smile.gif
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Hands n Paws RM140, took from breeder last time RM120, but I think going clinic will be much better at least they know how to do the injection properly I don't mind paying extra RM20


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QUOTE(aileyteo @ Oct 15 2010, 03:19 PM)
hi, any sifu recommend me a reputable breeder for me? planning buy one poodle.. i'm new here.
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huey80 shall recommend you some smile.gif you're looking for what colour? toy, teacup?


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post Oct 16 2010, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(suzannetan @ Oct 16 2010, 12:09 AM)
Hahaha that one is kinda bigger than the normal one, very fast in 5 seconds done, my girl thick skin she don't feel anything
Hands n Paws RM140, took from breeder last time RM120, but I think going clinic  will be much better at least they know how to do the injection properly I don't mind paying extra RM20

not rm100 meh?


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huey80 shall recommend you some smile.gif you're looking for what colour? toy, teacup?
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LOL...i already did... smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2010, 04:13 PM

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Dear all poodle lover, you all got bring your poodle go see dentist or wash teeth before. i wanna know more details on this. im thinking bring my poodle go wash teeth and is 1st time.
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post Oct 18 2010, 02:32 AM

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Just bought a puppy 2days ago. White colour.
The puppy not yet take any vacination, the breeder ask me bring back to their shop after 1 week for 1st vaccination.

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can bros here tell me what i need to take care? when can bath ah?
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post Oct 18 2010, 12:47 PM

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cute pup~
how old is your pup??why still not yet vacci?do your pup have routine deworm??
when u bath ur pup remember do not let the water go into it's nose~
bath with warm water~dry ur pup as soon you finish bathing him or her~(need to be fast, don't let your pup get cold)
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post Oct 18 2010, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(phonefinder @ Oct 18 2010, 02:32 AM)
Just bought a puppy 2days ago. White colour.
The puppy not yet take any vacination, the breeder ask me bring back to their shop after 1 week for 1st vaccination.

Here's the pic:
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can bros here tell me what i need to take care? when can bath ah?
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Supposed that a puppy must get his/her first jab before you even bring home, how old is your puppy? The vaccination should be taken asap and 1 week later doesn't really sound right. He/she must take at least 3jab by 4months plus then only can be allowed outside. They're immune system is very low at this time, do take good care of them. With the 3 jab and don't forget heartgard, either feed or jab will do, your choice.

You should check with the pet shop, when's the last time they bath the puppy. After a week then only bath her again. Always bath her before taking a jab, because after jab you can only bath her after around a week or so. There's a lot to take care actually, too broad unless you post the specific questions here and many will give you the answer.
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(z_koon @ Oct 18 2010, 12:47 PM)
cute pup~
how old is your pup??why still not yet vacci?do your pup have routine deworm??
when u bath ur pup remember do not let the water go into it's nose~
bath with warm water~dry ur pup as soon you finish bathing him or her~(need to be fast, don't let your pup get cold)
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hi thx for the reply. the puppy is approximately 2month or less. They say the puppy still very small, so ask me bring back on this fri for first vaccination.not sure about deworm, will comfirm with them tomorrow. how to say it's dewormed? by injection?


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QUOTE(suzannetan @ Oct 18 2010, 11:53 PM)
Supposed that a puppy must get his/her first jab before you even bring home, how old is your puppy? The vaccination should be taken asap and 1 week later doesn't really sound right. He/she must take at least 3jab by 4months plus then only can be allowed outside. They're immune system is very low at this time, do take good care of them. With the 3 jab and don't forget heartgard, either feed or jab will do, your choice.

You should check with the pet shop, when's the last time they bath the puppy. After a week then only bath her again. Always bath her before taking a jab, because after jab you can only bath her after around a week or so. There's a lot to take care actually, too broad unless you post the specific questions here and many will give you the answer.
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hi suzannetan, they bath my puppy on last thursday.can i use wet warm cloth to clean the puppy's fur everyday? Oh ya how come my puppy like very moody leh?always lie on the floor, not really want to play with me , is it still small or it haven't close with me?how much food should i give to my puppy per day?

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post Oct 19 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(phonefinder @ Oct 19 2010, 01:11 AM)
hi thx for the reply. the puppy is approximately 2month or less. They say the puppy still very small, so ask me bring back on this fri for first vaccination.not sure about deworm, will comfirm with them tomorrow. how to say it's dewormed? by injection?
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If your puppy is under 2 months, the breeder shouldn't have given him to you yet. A puppy should never go to a new home under 2 months of age. For exceptionally small puppies responsible breeders will sometimes hold them for longer than 2 months to allow them to grow to a safer size before being rehomed (especially if the new owner is not so experienced with dogs).
Deworming is either a pill or liquid form. For small puppies liquid form is usually used as the pill comes (most commonly) in 10kg doses so getting a small enough dose for a 1-2kg pup is difficult.
The breeder should have dewormed your pup every 2 weeks since they were 2 weeks old. If your pup is now 2 months you can do it once a month (most good vets will deworm while doing the vaccination if you haven't deowrmed yourself).

QUOTE(phonefinder @ Oct 19 2010, 01:11 AM)
hi suzannetan, they bath my puppy on last thursday.can i use wet warm cloth to clean the puppy's fur everyday? Oh ya how come my puppy like very moody leh?always lie on the floor, not really want to play with me , is it still small or it haven't close with me?how much food should i give to my puppy per day?
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You need to have a supplement paste (nuti-cal, puppy paste, nutri-gel) and give your puppy 1-2 pea sized blobs a day for energy. Very small puppies can faint if they don't get enough energy so this is a great product to use as a precaution, especially if your puppy seems to not have much energy. A very high quality food is also a very good idea to give him the building blocks he needs to grow properly. What was the breeder feeding him?

Most importantly, if your puppy doesn't have the energy to play don't force him. If you want to spend time, sit with him and talk to him or put him on your lap and stroke him gently. With any puppy it is important not to over tire them as they need their energy to grow.

Watch your puppies stool, if there is any signs of diarrhea or if he stops eating for more than 1 meal go to a vet immediately. I would also highly suggest getting the vaccination done asap (as suzanntan already said) don't wait a week, do it now. Puppies should be vaccinated the first time between 4-6weeks old and then every month until they are 3 or 4 months old.

I wouldn't suggest wiping down your pup everyday (especially as he should be staying in your house so won't get dirty enough to need it). You can clean his butt and face daily if you wish, but weekly showers should be enough for now. Very small puppies get cold very quickly which is why bathing can actually be dangerous.

Some other things to think about:
Start brushing him gently so he gets used to it (you need a slicker brush).
Play with him feet and ears so he is used to it (it will help your groomer out loads when it comes to ear cleaning and nail clipping)
Decide where you want him to pee/poo and start enforcing it now.
Decide where he is/isn't allowed to go and start enforcing it.

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Good day everyone,

I was informed of some bad news this morning by my girlfriend, apparently my toy poodle, Teddy that i got 2 months ago was from a blacklisted breeder in petfinder.com. There has been many cases where newly purchased pups are diagnosed with parvo or distemper virus few days into ownership and not many has able to fight the deadly virus. The breeder goes by the nick name Cylos Siang or QQpoodles, I believe most of you might have heard of him.

I have to admit to my fault for not performing a thorough background search of the breeder before getting the pup from him, but let bygones be bygones.

The good news is that 2 months has gone by and Teddy is doing fine, appetite is good, energy level is high and everything seems to be good. I do have to note though that Teddy was diagnosed with parasite that was caused by ticks as explained by the vet on the 2nd week. The doc gave him antibiotics and Teddy was as strong as a bull since.

After reading all the bad reviews and all the diseases that seem to be associated with this particular breeder, my girlfriend is in constant worry since.

I know there will an incubation period of 1~2 weeks when a puppy picks up a certain virus, correct me if i am wrong. Teddy has been with us for 2 months now, everything is fine except for the occasional sneeze that drives my girlfriend in panic mode(is it ok?). I would like to know can i safely assume that Teddy is the lucky few that was able to avoid the deadly viruses from the breeder or is there anything i need to do? Is a full medical checkup necessary?

My girlfriend is really shaken up by the news, worrying that Teddy might end up like the other unlucky puppies. I really hope to hear from opinions from you guys. Thanks

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