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TSRuzumaki
post Aug 28 2010, 03:16 PM, updated 16y ago

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Idea from anime4000 post : DIY Speed up internet put Magnet?, it is possible can speed!!?
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So, 1st of all... What's the hell is ferrite bead?
According to wiki, A ferrite bead is a passive electric component used to suppress high frequency noise in electronic circuits. It is a specific type of electronic choke. Ferrite beads may also be called ferrite blocks, ferrite cores, ferrite rings, ferrite EMI filters, a ferrite choke or mistakenly as ferrous beads.
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I dun care wat it is called but how it BENEFIT to me???
Ferrite beads are used as a passive low-pass filter. The elctromagnetic properties of coiled wire over the ferrite bead result in a high resistance for high-frequency signals, attenuating high frequency EMI/RFI elctronoic noise. Computers are fairly noisy devices. Computer and its cables act as nice, long antennae for the signals they carry. They broadcast the signals quite efficiently. The signals they broadcast can interfere with radios and TVs. The cables can also receive signals and transmit them into the case, where they cause problems. A ferrite bead has the property of eliminating the broadcast signals. Thus, user thats always encounter disconnect from ISP can use this method so stability their line and increase the speed stability of connection.

My personal experience
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My SNR margin greatly increase from 15 to 22 after I added ferrite bead to my telephone line. Line attenuation also decreased few dB. Thus my line is now much more stable and the download speed maintain highly.

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This is my download speed



I dont to waste money on, where can I find this thing and DIY myself!?
In a typical computer system found in a home or office, you normally see these "bumps" on the mouse, keyboard and monitor cables. You can also find them on power supply wires when a device (like a printer or scanner) uses an external transformer.
These "bumps" are called ferrite beads .
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*Notice some of them are extractable and some are not, you can get it from old/unused cable.
Example of extractable ferrite bead(have some node like the 1 in picture), pls becareful when you are extracting ferrite bead. Sometimes you nid to be SPARTA to extract it.
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Im damn interested now, but how to use??
Simple place the ferrite bead you have extracted earlier to the telephone wire before the socket jack. Don't be too greedy to put a lot of ferrite bead for best experience. Over strong magnetic field from ferrite bead will cause it filter "extra" signal including your adsl. So, please beware =)

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Sometimes you need to remove the socket jack to place the ferrite bead, please do becareful.
Socket Jack Reference:
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In order to make the wire connections to the telephone jack, loosen the connection screws. Now wrap the individual wires around the screws and tighten using a screwdriver. The screw are color coded just like the color of the wires.
You'll notice the wires are colored red, green, yellow, and black. In the old phone system years and years ago, the black and yellow wires were used to connect the power supply to run the rotary telephones. These days, the phones don't need this. For this reason, the red and green wires are all that are needed in most cases.



cry.gif I don't have one, where can I get?!
Erm... shakehead.gif Currently I still can't help you, but I have tried to bought some from oversea since I don't see this ferrite bead sell in malaysia. Maybe you wanna to wait for my good news. The price will be about RM10 or higher for each of it since it import from oversea, the shipping price is damn high. Maybe forumer can provide some details or tips on where to get this thingy.


DEMO ( Thanks to anime4000)
Good feedback from anime4000. SNR download margin increase from 10-->11dB with a ferrite bead from PSU.
Click here to see prove




EXTRA
Loop the wire itself on the ferrite bead increase efficiency. More coil = more resistant, thus better result.
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Ferrite bead is widely used on variety of electronic equipment & device like TV, radio, HP handset and printer cables. Ferrite Beads that attach to cell phone headsets offer real protection against potentially dangerous cell phone radiation!! The usage is the same like this tutorial.


Finally!!
rclxms.gif Enjoy your decent speed stability with ferrite bead. thumbup.gif
pif.... wasted 1hour for the picture and explaination, I hope lowyat forum user will appreciate it and wont make me dissapointed.





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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_bead
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question352.htm
http://electrical.about.com/od/lowvoltagew...phonejack_4.htm

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post Aug 28 2010, 03:20 PM

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Great info you have here. Thanks.
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post Aug 28 2010, 03:22 PM

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now i can download torrent more smooth!
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post Aug 28 2010, 03:26 PM

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post Aug 28 2010, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Aug 28 2010, 03:26 PM)
@Anime4000
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yes... why lol... you should try it... this method
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post Aug 28 2010, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Aug 28 2010, 03:31 PM)
I am a bit skeptical but since the method is practically free and not a product that is being sold then I think I will give it a try..
But interference only happen on the telephone cable only?
If put on LAN cable as well any noticeable difference?
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Yes, gv it a try ^^. Look around for unused ferrite bead, its cheap and DIY-able. Based on my experience, U wont notice different. I have tried put after the telephone cable. It seem like the signal transfer in RJ11 and RJ45 will not affect by external signal noise. So it wont gv any effect. Pls do tell us your result after u try.

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Well,anything just to squeeze some more juice out of streamyx gets my vote.

I can see the DSL line in my area has alot of interference from the static noise I hear on my house phone.
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post Aug 28 2010, 06:44 PM

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so that's what its for. i got one in package with lcd tv
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post Aug 28 2010, 06:47 PM

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aluminum foil also can.. wrap aluminum foil around the entire length of your cable
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QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 28 2010, 06:47 PM)
aluminum foil also can.. wrap aluminum foil around the entire length of your cable
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it works on my loser line... even i run 175 streamyx IP download torrent, no capping lol
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post Aug 28 2010, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 28 2010, 06:47 PM)
aluminum foil also can.. wrap aluminum foil around the entire length of your cable
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aluminium foil??? really? Have u tried it?? Can show us some pic?
But i think no much effect =P it just reflect the signal, not filter.
Anyway, considerable suggestion. hmm.gif

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post Aug 28 2010, 07:18 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_foil
lol.. how to apply at cable?
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 28 2010, 07:53 PM)
it works on my loser line... even i run 175 streamyx IP download torrent, no capping lol
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now dont tell me ferrite bead help prevent throttle wink.gif

QUOTE(Ruzumaki @ Aug 28 2010, 08:00 PM)
aluminium foil??? really? Have u tried it?? Can show us some pic?
But i think no much effect =P it just reflect the signal, not filter.
Anyway, good idea.
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nope, best way to reduce noise is to limit the number of wire around and increase the distance between your electrical appliances

noise is caused by EM radiation form high voltage cable or nearby electrical appliances

btw wrapping aluminum foil around your wire will make u look ridiculous tongue.gif

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 28 2010, 07:25 PM)
now dont tell me ferrite bead help prevent throttle  wink.gif
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i don't know... but i trying it without use static account, seem me not "no throttle" area.
by this method, it help my modem operate smooth and stability, low Super Error Frame...

as my old idea put magnet instead ferrite, ferrite batter then magnet...

EDIT: i downloading torrent via Linux (Ubuntu 10.04LTS)... lot users use linux to download via torrent, so linux also can by pass tm, i think...

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post Aug 28 2010, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Aug 28 2010, 07:25 PM)
now dont tell me ferrite bead help prevent throttle  wink.gif
nope, best way to reduce noise is to limit the number of wire around and increase the distance between your electrical appliances

noise is caused by EM radiation form high voltage cable or nearby electrical appliances

btw wrapping aluminum foil around your wire will make u look ridiculous  tongue.gif
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Lol... yes, very ridiculous. But the idea is from you.
Ferrite bead can't prevent throttle, but increased speed stability.
Dont tell me u keep all the electrical appliances away just to avoid EM shocking.gif
Ur pc is the noisiest appliances. Regardless how far u keep it, it will emit Em also.

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1xx kBps download speed is normal for 1Mbps subscribers
torrent speed depends greatly on the seeds

I pity those have to resort to using this kind of material only to boost a pity speed of 1xx kBps
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 28 2010, 07:47 PM)
1xx kBps download speed is normal for 1Mbps subscribers
torrent speed depends greatly on the seeds

I pity those have to resort to using this kind of material only to boost a pity speed of 1xx kBps
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that i know, but how TM make user unconnected or target can't reach,

i applying ferrite from morning (around 9AM) until 8PM, the my SNR margin still in 11.x dB area

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SNR Margin info: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/222851
which area you are...

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post Aug 28 2010, 08:06 PM

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I'm using Unifi will this help?
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QUOTE(jubz @ Aug 28 2010, 08:06 PM)
I'm using Unifi will this help?
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LOL... Unifi are fiberoptic, no EMI, even lighting hit fiber cable still your modem in good condition...

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