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post Aug 28 2010, 06:13 AM

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squier also have fake one? how to tell?
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post Aug 31 2010, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(mhb @ Aug 31 2010, 07:11 AM)
Are those serial numbers help when identifying fake?
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dont think so, since serial number only can tell where and what year, it was manufactured.... but if the guitar dont follow spec, u can tell.... then this could happen to ori but moded guitar as well
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post Aug 31 2010, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 31 2010, 10:37 AM)
for gibsons, the serial number can also tell what model and color it should be.
but of cos that one have to ask gibson customer service tongue.gif
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of course, if u know the details, u can.... same like fender..... some serial number are only for some model, which was build in xxxx year..... maybe diff headstock design, diff position to truss rod access, diff number of pickguard screw, diff decal design... but... thats hard la for "commoner" like me.... hahaha
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post Aug 31 2010, 11:27 PM

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santa cruz e.guitar is fake right?
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post Sep 3 2010, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(russellhere @ Sep 3 2010, 05:05 PM)
what about their epiphones?
are they legit?
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legit i think.. they have reputation... they wont sell fake
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post Sep 4 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(gapnap @ Sep 4 2010, 11:12 AM)
Well , i am truly amazed how internet forumers judge another internet forumer by their avatar  smile.gif
I've been avatar-less since i started . Maybe its time to get one .
Anyway , i spot a fake Ibanez recently ...
Here yo .
http://gapnap.com/2010/09/04/fake-ibanez-guitars/
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hoe does guitar warranty works? does squier guitar have after ale warranty too?
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(Errmonikka Records @ Sep 7 2010, 02:04 AM)
you know why people are still buying fake guitars?because they are dreaming to have a Gibson or a Fender but got not enough money. Some people are like that, they can't wait. Tak sabar nak ada guitar fender.hehehe.

My advise is, just go and buy second hand or old-stock products. I bought my Iron Cobra Second Generation for RM600 only and my pearl steel piccolo snare for RM300 plus. And these items are still in good condition. Owh and I bought a Maestro LP guitar form Noobaxe for RM300 plus also because its an old stock product. As simple as that, if you don't want to spend much, just search for second hand gears, no need to buy fake guitars. Malu laa nak main pakai guitar tipu.
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bcoz its hard to identify a fake unless u hv enough experience... many bought coz they thought they found a gem with good price... unless the seller edi stated "fake gibson to let go" n u still buy, i dunno la sweat.gif

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post Sep 13 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Sustainer @ Sep 13 2010, 11:52 AM)
ok for whoever is interested, I know a music store in Sungei Wang that sells fake Epiphones.
You know which one.

Stay away!!
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post Sep 13 2010, 01:31 PM

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ya ya.... i think carlifornia dont have 2 screw bridge... only in deluxe, cv, n standard series
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Sep 13 2010, 04:02 PM)
CV got only vintage 6 screw tremolo..
The deluxe and the standard only got that 2 screw bridge..
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right,.. my mistake
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(SihamZhai @ Sep 14 2010, 10:05 PM)
Fake as in what?? Indon made, china made?? or?? Anyway... i bought a china made BC Rich Warlock... BAD!! From now on, Im gonna order. Either Japan or US made...
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fake as in.... they create a copy and say its an ori.... made in china doesnt mean it a fake... it just the company want to use cheap labour.... if a fender, some day decided to establish a factory in china and produce a made in china fender, it still an ori....
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post Sep 15 2010, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(garret @ Sep 15 2010, 05:25 AM)
Actually..Even Slash used a replica Les Paul on his early days..in fact the whole Appetite For Distruction album was recorded using REPLICA Les Paul.
Funny how THE definitive Les Paul/Marshall sound on Appetite was actually created with neither a Gibson nor a factory Marshall!
Yet both Jim Marshall and Gibson parade Slash around at the trade shows and don't mind making a crap load of money off of him..
hmmm...
one more fact, Slash and Jimmy Page both did a great deal for the popularity of Les Pauls with their first albums... without using Gibsons!

Just Sharing..


Added on September 15, 2010, 5:34 amCheck this out..LP with floyd rose.. rclxms.gif
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certainly doesnt use some cheapo truss rod, wood, machines, which usually fake does
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post Sep 15 2010, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(russellhere @ Sep 15 2010, 09:49 AM)
i doubt it.those times,china weren't the power houses they used to be.so fakes would be 1000x better compared to know.
take eddie van halen.
his guitar is basically chopped up parts of a kramer glued together.
because those times,you can do stuff like that.
the parts and even the fake guitars your buying did have good quality.
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i wont say thats a fake..... thats a custom guitari would say.... as long as he doesnt say its an "ori", let say, kramer
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post Sep 30 2010, 04:26 AM

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QUOTE(NoobAxe @ Sep 30 2010, 03:58 AM)
juz now, an FBean ask me on his buying a new mia fender at only RM 750.. ady deposited 250 bucks to reelmusic.mudah.CON.my..
the faker said retail price is 1200, can lower to 750 only.. tongue.gif

tmrw dat noob gonna pickup dat fake guitar..

i simply suggest to bring some gang n KILL the faker with the fake gtr..
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so u tell him o not?


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QUOTE(freakfingers12 @ Sep 29 2010, 11:50 PM)
Fakes wouldn't bother me as much as it bothers me now if they only costed RM100 and the word FAKE is clearly embedded on the back of its headstock.
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exactly my thought....

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post Dec 15 2010, 10:23 PM

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e series epi
http://epiphone.3house.com/e-series.html
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post Dec 25 2010, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Apple_DarreN @ Dec 25 2010, 11:06 PM)
i don't know can i post what they sended me now, i'm scared like s07t now.. D; they said that i defame the're company and they will not hesitate to take action on me. and they even know i posted on mylp.


Added on December 25, 2010, 11:11 pmcan everyone delete the comments please? i'm scared like s)(*t now. please please please!
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why? if the guitar is not *new(like they toldd u in email) shouldn't they told u first?....
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post Mar 23 2011, 10:27 AM

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whoaaa people.... calm down...


Added on March 23, 2011, 10:39 am
QUOTE(firslash88 @ Mar 22 2011, 07:10 PM)
fake? and ori?

for now:
ori = all guitar (100% of quantity production) perfect..
fake = all guitar (maybe only 65% of quantity production) perfect..

but..., in future,
as i said before, situation like this might be happen.. just don't be surprised..

"jika seorang luthier tu ada blue print gibson ori, n dia buat sebijik mmg mcm ori, dan yang membelinya ialah trusted seller, untuk jual pada customer yang kononnya diberitahu bahawa gitar tersebut ialah gitar original, rase2nya customer tu tau tak itu gitar fake??

seller just can say, "uish, mestila ori bro... US punya tuuuuu.. tgk la, siap ada surat beranak, serial number, sume complete, bro!!!
and the buyer, "waaa, betol laaaa.. how much?! bungkus sekarang please!"
think about it.. worth it? when money is involved, anything can happen, man... "

i'm also a business man, dude.. even not a pro, i think this can be thought by anyone.. smile.gif
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but thats like tipu ur customer la..... thats like selling a color blindman a red fender although what he want is a fiesta red ..... although it just a color different, but still cheating, buyer feel cheated when he find out..... unless the seller already told before hand to the buyer that the guitar that he is selling is fake, n the buyer still interested to buy, .... selling fake is wrong


Added on March 23, 2011, 10:45 am
QUOTE(Apple_DarreN @ Mar 22 2011, 07:27 PM)
Thats what they said to Japan last time..

" Tokai? Greco? Come'n brathaaa, get the real deal man, a Gibson.. Tokai and Greco's ain't good, japanese can't make shit ( lol, like kinda racist.. ) "

But now, look at them, Even top quality tokai/greco can fight with the gibson.. especially those 70s.. and honestly

Not to butthurt Gibson lovers but..

GIBSON GUITAR IS WAY OVERPRICED AND THEIR QUALITY IS GOING DOWN DOWN DOWN.
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ist that a copy..... they r not fake.... they didnt stamp fender or gibson logo on their guitar, they produce under their own brand..... i thought we r discussing about fakes, not copy.....

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post Apr 7 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(loliamlol @ Apr 3 2011, 04:46 PM)
hey guys, i just wanna ask, this website sell real or fake guitars??
www.cmmusic.com.my

im a newbie so i dunno hw to see real from fake

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real la.... i sometimes go buy pick n try their guitar.... good service.... good stuff also...
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 26 2011, 12:39 PM)
does it matter if a gio ibanez is ori or fake?
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of coz la.... if fake u dunno they use wat wood, what material for bridge block.... at least real gio, u know wat u get when u buy
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post Sep 27 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Sep 27 2011, 02:04 AM)
wat i meant was, the original gio barely stays in tune (models with trem), and poor intonation. a fake gio would perform somewhat close to the real gio. how bad can that fake gio get? so why bother..

the counterfeit chinese fender and had better QC than that gio in particular. even with stock hardware and electronics, i dare to say on par, if not better with the mex strat which i recently sold. having said that, i cannot guarantee that every fake is good.

when you buy original, yes quality is reassured (then again, look at the 5 piece body Am Std 80s Strat on sale in mudah.my).

nothing against budget line guitars, but my experiences with other brands like yamaha, sx, squier, and tanglewood were much better.
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fender? i tot fake gio vs ori gio... n yamaha, tanglewood,sx, squier are not fake

and the bold part is y we against fake..... bigger chance u goet crappy fake
dunno wat u try to say

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