QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 9 2011, 10:13 PM)
That's BD? AMD Bulldozer & Bobcat
AMD Bulldozer & Bobcat
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Jun 9 2011, 11:23 PM
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Jun 9 2011, 11:27 PM
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Yep.
26s for single threaded in SuperPI. ![]() Looks like the sample got some problems. Unstable and Performance does not proportional to clock. This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jun 9 2011, 11:28 PM |
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Jun 9 2011, 11:35 PM
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After looking at so many 'leaked' benchmarks I would usually take it with a grain of salt, especially with Cinebench. I lost count already how many I saw a Photoshopped version.
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Jun 9 2011, 11:36 PM
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Jun 9 2011, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Jun 9 2011, 11:35 PM) After looking at so many 'leaked' benchmarks I would usually take it with a grain of salt, especially with Cinebench. I lost count already how many I saw a Photoshopped version. The TS got real engineering sample. He got photo on that. Anyway, his unit apparently, got some problems. |
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Jun 10 2011, 01:09 AM
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Jun 10 2011, 02:00 AM
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If AMD can give me a quad-core that is noticeably faster than my Phenom II X3 710 on single threaded apps, isn't any hotter, AES-NI and CPU+MB pricing of about RM700, I'm sold.
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Jun 10 2011, 10:16 AM
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Okay, the next gen APU, Trinity will got HD6770 core integrated.
But I think the RAM will become bottleneck. For APU users, time to get performance RAM and OC it to get better IGP performance. This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jun 10 2011, 10:17 AM |
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Jun 10 2011, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 10 2011, 10:16 AM) Okay, the next gen APU, Trinity will got HD6770 core integrated. Have the same feeling cause share system ram right? But I think the RAM will become bottleneck. For APU users, time to get performance RAM and OC it to get better IGP performance. Btw 8core series with built in graphic? |
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Jun 10 2011, 10:40 AM
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Jun 10 2011, 11:28 AM
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The RAM issue with the APU is already known for quite some time. It has more to do with the bandwidth that the RAM has rather than speed. For a discrete GPU you have a very big bandwidth compared to what you can find on normal RAM. Only solution is to have a dedicated memory for the GPU on the motherboard which was not implemented maybe due to cost. Another solution is to increase the dual channel memory to triple/quad channel memory but have to wait till AMD decides to actually implement.
Putting the RAM issue aside, the number of pins on the socket could have been increased as well. Now the CPU and GPU have to share the 905 pins that Socket FM1 have which might not be a good thing. |
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Jun 10 2011, 06:00 PM
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So is there any new bench for the 8 cores monster?
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Jun 11 2011, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 9 2011, 11:13 PM) According to the pic2.80GHz BD lose to 2.80GHz i7 This is dissapointing But the announced stock speed should be 3.60GHz Wanna ask If the speed is 3.60GHz means all 8 cores run at 3.60GHz? Added on June 11, 2011, 4:51 pm QUOTE(dma0991 @ Jun 10 2011, 11:28 AM) The RAM issue with the APU is already known for quite some time. It has more to do with the bandwidth that the RAM has rather than speed. For a discrete GPU you have a very big bandwidth compared to what you can find on normal RAM. Only solution is to have a dedicated memory for the GPU on the motherboard which was not implemented maybe due to cost. Another solution is to increase the dual channel memory to triple/quad channel memory but have to wait till AMD decides to actually implement. Now only I know about thisPutting the RAM issue aside, the number of pins on the socket could have been increased as well. Now the CPU and GPU have to share the 905 pins that Socket FM1 have which might not be a good thing. So that means the APU'S GPU will share the memory of the normal RAM? This post has been edited by shin gouki: Jun 11 2011, 04:51 PM |
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Jun 11 2011, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE According to the pic 2.80GHz BD lose to 2.80GHz i7 This is dissapointing I already said, there are some bugs with the tested sample. When OC-ed to 3.2GHz, it shows performance decrement. LOL. QUOTE But the announced stock speed should be 3.60GHz Wanna ask If the speed is 3.60GHz means all 8 cores run at 3.60GHz? Did you notice, engineering sample? Yes, all cores will run at same clock. If you enabled C-state, cores may run at different frequency, depending on workload on that particular core. QUOTE So that means the APU'S GPU will share the memory of the normal RAM? Yep. Some super impressive result has came. Broke the IGP record. ![]() ![]() ![]() Bye-bye to neeb Intel IGP. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Result Page. Are you sold? ![]() Updated model list. This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jun 11 2011, 05:25 PM |
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Jun 11 2011, 08:07 PM
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im sold... but want to know how much 1st hehehe
3 days to go! |
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Jun 11 2011, 11:27 PM
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Dunno whether I should buy the zambezi cpu or the trinity apu.... Rumour said that trinity will be released in march/april 2012 while zambezi will be released in august/sept 2011.... But I reli like the trinity apu... Looks promising
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Jun 11 2011, 11:47 PM
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The beauty of going AMD is that you don't have to deal with the socket BS that Intel is feeding us. You can go with whatever CPU and just swap it out without changing the whole platform.
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Jun 12 2011, 12:07 AM
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Got new SuperPI 1M result?
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Jun 12 2011, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Jun 11 2011, 11:47 PM) The beauty of going AMD is that you don't have to deal with the socket BS that Intel is feeding us. You can go with whatever CPU and just swap it out without changing the whole platform. That may change when AMD introduces the Komodo to replace the Zambezi. The Komodo is supposed to be an APU so that might be the point that the Socket AM3+ is no longer useful. If according to the timeline Komodo should come out next year and most likely a new Socket will be introduced as well. After they have transitioned to the newer socket then backwards compatibility would continue from there and not backwards compatible with AM3+.Of course this is all speculation and might have some truth but if AMD really wants to change then they might as well go all the way by bringing down their Socket C32 or Socket G34 for Komodo which has a lot of contacts points and LGA. |
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Jun 12 2011, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 9 2011, 10:19 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The performance improvement is decent. Without L3 cache, it is still able to perform on par with Phenom II. Do you expect it slower than Phenom II? I hope it is faster than Sandy Bridge too, clock to clock. Bulldozer is AMD's biggest project ever. A big hoo-haa since 2005. I expect it to blow Sandy Bridge out of water. It would be a bit of turn-off if this AMD's "greatest" architecture fails to beat Intel's. I don't expect it to be cheap though. I think the price doesn't matter as long as it's faster than Sandy Bridge - the performance justifies the price. |
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