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Boldnut
post May 25 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ May 25 2012, 10:07 AM)
the issue with the weak bulldozer architecture was because the system design was more server-oriented... that is concentrating more on integer processing than FPU processing. the shared FPU units for two integer units on each module simply gave a performance hit under load.

a quad core bulldozer in reality is no different than a dual core Intel with hyperthreading in a normal end-user client system. it's just that AMD implemented its own 'hyperthreading' on the hardware rather than using instructions.

in my opinion, AMD should compete with Intel in terms of efficiency and price point. if they cannot compete in the high end segment so be it. High end segments are just a niche market anyway.
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they are shifting their focus to APU and mobile. The only reason I do not understand is why they didnt capitalize their APU + a Radeon to crossfire giving total graphic advantage over intel without adding cost. The current hybrid crossfire is kinda buggy.

The spec in the IGP in APU vs the Radeon are always mismatch, this makes making driver profile for crossfire even harder.
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post May 25 2012, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ May 25 2012, 05:38 PM)
I understand what you mean... totally agree regarding the crossfire thing. A real IGP+discrete crossfire would be amazing compare to the hybrid crossfire setup. I imagine something like Lucidlogix's Virtu system. IGP on normal usage, and crossfire when loading hardware accelerated apps like gaming, encoding, OpenCL supported apps. That's what we call hardcore heterogeneous computing.

The funny thing is that the GPU in Trinity APU was actually a heavily crippled Radeon HD 6900-series.

I'm putting hope in Vishera as they claimed that it will show full potential of Piledriver compare to Trinity. Hopefully the L3 cache and quad-channel memory system will give significant advantage on Piledriver performance.
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thats why with GCN coming even in mobile, they reuse the 6900, this makes Crossfire almost impossible. They have Radeon + IGP from Llano/trinity. We all know moible GPU are kinda crap compared to the CPU.

Just imaging if Trinity is IGP is GCN and they manage to make it crossfire across the entire GCN line up. hey its like adding 10 fps to 7970. 15fps to 7850, aint bad at all. It technically come as a package forcing user to buy AMD CPU + GPU to get the best performance combo.

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post May 27 2012, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(Boss262 @ May 27 2012, 01:49 AM)
No doubt after this Intel CPUS will be expensive as hell considering the AMD's CEO announce that they will mainly will work on mobile APUs but I still put my faith on AMD after reading some article about how's FX series perform about 10% on WIndows 8 better than windows 7 and actually beat i5 SB, but not for i7. We'll see how the actual performance will FX gives to Windows 8, if they actually make a false information. Switching to intel than.
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it will only be expensive if u keep following the top end CPU, Intel will never abandon the cheap CPU market. It will continue to sell cheap CPU that cost RM150-500.

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post Nov 3 2012, 09:48 AM

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dont bother hoping for that, AMD isnt providing good/performance anymore. Not like back in AthlonXP/Athlon64 days.

I wish them die and rot somewhere.
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post Nov 3 2012, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(primaroti @ Nov 3 2012, 04:12 PM)
don't say like that bro...maybe they already try give there shot..to create new proc to beat intel...this is not easy bro..
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Lets be honest ok? with the pricing they have now in Malaysia they are trying to run AMD Malaysia market share into grave.

I for one have no hard feelings with them gone since they are not helping themselves to be competitive.


 

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