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post Oct 12 2011, 10:09 AM

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going to pickup the 8150 in one hour XD
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post Oct 12 2011, 11:02 AM

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Hmmm, so is there any BD processor that is around the price range of i3 2100 or cheaper but better?
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post Oct 12 2011, 11:03 AM

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1 hour left until reviews are up. storm88: Shops should be stocking up tomorrow no?

http://www.ozeros.com/2011/10/review-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150/

Bulldozer seems to hold promise in MT apps.
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post Oct 12 2011, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Oct 12 2011, 12:02 PM)
Hmmm, so is there any BD processor that is around the price range of i3 2100 or cheaper but better?
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FX4100. 95W 8MB 3.6Ghz RM420+/-


Added on October 12, 2011, 11:49 amI mis understood... Supplier will get stock later today. So i only manage to get later also

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post Oct 12 2011, 12:00 PM

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thought i wanna get 8150...but saw Cex sell it for 930...WTH...is that the real price??
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post Oct 12 2011, 12:10 PM

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look like ozeros review show that AMD still behind i7 2600 even i5 2500 in gaming.

If the price is really according to current market price the only worth to try bulldozer will be fx 4100 compare to i3 2100
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post Oct 12 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Oct 12 2011, 09:25 AM)
They could spoil AMD launch if they really wanted to cut the price down, dont forget SB can officially run 3.6Ghz @ stock volt. 2700K is just 3.5GHz.

If I were Intel shareholder, I would personally love to take this chances to kill AMD down to VIA size. There is absolutely no reason to have a competitor keep messing with you. Monopoly is most if not all businessman ultimate goal.
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If I were Intel, releasing a newer product that is 100MHz higher and about RM100 more than the previous is a way better strategy. They stand to gain nothing by reducing their prices as AMD is never a threat to begin with. Like I said before even if BD is a unbelievably good CPU that excels in ST and MT tasks and totally blows i7 out of the water, AMD cannot keep up with the demand like Intel could. GloFlo is a small fab and can't pump out the volume or yield like Intel's fabs could.

Although it is very possible to oppose the competition to submission, there are antitrust laws that protects and prevents monopoly. There is really no upside to AMD being brought down. If AMD does go down one day, we could probably see at least some price increase on Intel products just because everybody needs a PC these days and you can't do much even if the price increased.

Intel's monopoly is not like the monopoly you could find like a local shop or small to medium business would because even if a shop reduces its price to kill its neighboring competitor and monopoly a certain area, there will definitely be someone to replace the one that has fallen. When AMD goes down, there is no one to take its place as a x86 competitor. Even if the x86 license is transferred to another company there is no guarantee that the new company will be releasing new products for another decade.

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post Oct 12 2011, 12:36 PM

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VR-Zone Review
Stock clock comparison.
4.7GHz comparison.
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post Oct 12 2011, 12:43 PM

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Hmm... not what I'd go for right now... AMD has always been good at price/performance ratio but this new line doesn't really stick to that concept / ideal anymore it seems although I'd welcome the FX8150 results to be better than the i5 but the price point is killing the interest really...
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:00 PM

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bulldozer is truly a disappointment, some benchmark even lost to phenom II x6, plus high power consumption also, amd, please dont mess up with the future "enhanced bulldozer" we need competitive cpu
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:09 PM

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The disappointment here is not unexpected, considering how they have been delaying the launch and Intel's overall financial and technology superiority. Take note that the following generation, a 32nm Piledriver, is supposed to only give 10-15% better performance. Intel's Ivy Bridge 22nm process shrink on the other hand, should give it around 50% better performance on top of their current performance advantage.

In any case, this is troublesome for me. I was hoping to replace my system this year and I could use BD's AES-NI, but it would be much cheaper for me to get an X6 and it would enable me to upgrade to Trinity (with Piledriver) next year.
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:13 PM

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The performance is simply disappointing,it's only a bit faster than a Phenom II clock for clock [sometimes even slower,WTH AMD?]
No wonder it has been delayed this long,if it was launched earlier it wouldn't stand a chance at all.
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:15 PM

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Exactly... Some more the price is at rm900+ for FX-8150! Wtf man. Intel ownage liao! sad.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(ghostcommand @ Oct 12 2011, 01:15 PM)
Exactly... Some more the price is at rm900+ for FX-8150! Wtf man. Intel ownage liao! sad.gif
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Since it's a new product usually the price is jacked up quite high sweat.gif
At least that's what i observed for the past few years.
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:18 PM

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4 months ago...
QUOTE(dma0991 @ Jun 2 2011, 01:43 PM)
Why not get a SB now?  rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Oct 12 2011, 01:18 PM)
4 months ago...
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I've bought a SB system since then laugh.gif
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Oct 12 2011, 12:17 PM)
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 12 2011, 12:36 PM)
VR-Zone Review
Stock clock comparison.
4.7GHz comparison.
Here's more...

- AnandTech > CPUs > The Bulldozer Review: AMD FX-8150 Tested
- Tom's Hardware > All Reviews > Components > CPU > AMD FX-8150 Review: From Bulldozer To Zambezi To FX
- Maximum PC | Bulldozer Benchmarked and Analyzed: Is AMD Back in the Game?
- HardWare.fr > ACTUALITES> AMD FX-8150 et FX-6100, Bulldozer débarque sur AM3+

Overall conclusion: doh.gif ...
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:49 PM

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any fx-4100 review release yet?
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(dreamwar @ Oct 12 2011, 01:49 PM)
any fx-4100 review release yet?
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Flagship product review will be first. Lower end ones will come weeks later or when it is available to the reviewers.
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post Oct 12 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 11 2011, 09:14 PM)
that price increase is bcoz of exchange rate.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Oct 12 2011, 09:25 AM)
They could spoil AMD launch if they really wanted to cut the price down, dont forget SB can officially run 3.6Ghz @ stock volt. 2700K is just 3.5GHz.

If I were Intel shareholder, I would personally love to take this chances to kill AMD down to VIA size. There is absolutely no reason to have a competitor keep messing with you. Monopoly is most if not all businessman ultimate goal.
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Not all CEO/business-man is like "Chinese" minded tauke especially the company of a size of Intel & AMD. There is always a market share to keep the product/price reasonable & competitive, good for end-user too. One down another emerge. Give me one brand/product than got total monopoly in now-days market? I cannot think of one smile.gif Who got the answer? icon_idea.gif


QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 12 2011, 09:29 AM)
The big question is how much!
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how much how much how much? rclxub.gif Always this question laugh.gif



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