I don't think pavilion 2 can sustain it in bj.

pavillion is branded mall name.

for surviving in bj.
1) big mall can't make it. Only community small mall still ok like jusco cheras selatan
2) in BJ , Big brand not possible. More suitable is mix tenant but mix tenant also mean non-competing shops. So can't be big. Just small.
3) small sapce rents is more negiottiable, could be just rent for 1 year contract
4) less renovation cost, offering below average rent price. compare the pavillion huge mall mean for tourist which need huge renovation cost & need longer contract and higher rental cot.

I repeat. Pavillian is big brand name. It cannot allow its brand to go lower so it have to go for huge. high class ( high rent la), don''t allow mix tenant ( tarnish its brand).

Ambitions is one things. Weather can make money is another afterall he has to answer to shareholder and his accountant will kaw kaw showing bad investment return.

Just wondering u based on what?

are you saying it because of his pavillion mall @ BB?

Do u know pavillion can make it was partly due to Qatar I A?

I also hope he can make it. But at this moment the reality is he can't due to we are not ready for another huge expensive mall in BJ with our low income.

Please share some reasons why do you think so?

This post has been edited by tikaram: May 13 2013, 12:38 PM

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big brand come with big pricetag.

big price tag mean big rent

big rent mean expensive items

expensive items mean need high spending power

Bj is resindential areas with mix income. Not tourist areas/ commercial/ Transport huge areas like Mid Valley/ Bukit Bintang.

what do you think tourist wants to come here? Just to shop here? further more , the nearest lrt station is more than 1 km. not walkable.

This post has been edited by tikaram: May 13 2013, 05:08 PM

let said i have 2 identical building. next to each other. Internal & renovation same. location old klang road.

A lease to "holiday vixx" another B "four seasxx"

if you are not wealthy. Which one will you go? same location, same cost psf. will it be same room rate?

wow!....

suddenly location location location is not relevant any more?

this area don't even have connect walking distance LRT la. Good luck to him

ambitions become part of " property dictionary check list now"

This post has been edited by tikaram: May 14 2013, 08:35 AM

Traffic Volumn is the answer

High Traffic
Sunway , One U and the curve have the traffic due to easy access and next to huge highway , have office, commercial and high income / spending power.

Mid valley is at city center, many office and very near to transport hube. Even Seremban, Rawang and Tanjung malim people are shopping in Mid Valley.

Sunway have many bus, Mid valley even more. 1U is the hube la no need to say.

Very low Traffic
BJ now. Lrt nearest soon need to walk > 1 km. No bus how to go there.

BJ no office/ commercial now and maybe 50% sucess in future la.

Road connection now.... Highway si beh bad 2 lane x 2 lane. Always jam at puchong/ selangor turf club rountabout

BJ spending power can match Sunway? Subang? Damansara? Bangsar? I see so many medium cost only.

Sri Petaling Endah is the example.
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Just compare the car volumn in new pantai expressway, ldp, persianran surian, federal highway, jalan bangsar with BJ highway u will know what i try to say.

I got to stop, I gave my opinion with point.

Some of you guy no gave any point to support what u said. exmaple support your opinion with " ambition "

This post has been edited by tikaram: May 14 2013, 10:19 AM

I stay in area mentioned by you.

i wont visit this bj mall for shopping as the travel time is nightmare.

many of my friends wont also

not forgetting we will have the ioi mall tis year.

I now tell you lo.

Ioi mall in putrajaya better than PV mall in bukit jalil.

so how?

omg. you are really kakikong kakisong

mid valley have good public transport ktm, lrt and mrt soon. mid valley never need to worry

I have explain early. Pls check ya.

My retative have some small % joint venture satay in kajang.

That is so wrong.

we kajang people also talk about mid valley mall wo.

we strongly disagree with you when u said mid valley is going to be a fail mall wo.

majority actually dont agree with you. Not just kajang n putrajaya people .so how?

This post has been edited by tikaram: Aug 22 2014, 10:13 AM

Nanti kena mod ban wo. So how?

Oug will go paradigm oug.
Puchong go ioi mall or sunway
pj will go paradigm sunway mid valley 1u
seri kembangan go mines ioi mall
kajang semenyih putra cyberjaya putrajaya part go ioi mall
cheras go klcc n mid valley.

who go pv2? Only some bj people as some bukit jalil also go mid valley n paradigm oug.

pv2 look liks fail mall in the making

Correct. Thier gf or wife everday also buy expensive branded lv gucci chanel MOUAWAD bags and make pv2 shop owner si beh rich.

Opps....they buy every hours lv gucci chanel MOUAWAD HERMES LANA MARKS HILDE PALLADINO etc etc

Every hours not everyday.