You don't understand what is Qt yet you're commenting on it?
QT is not an OS, it's a library, where apps/games develop can be deploy everywhere (as long as it supports Qt library; something like Java).
So, imagine an app/game develop using Qt, can be install in Windows Mobile, Symbian, Maemo, MeeGo, and any OS that supports Qt library, just like Java.

Did you see Intel App Store? It's not only for MeeGo. Forget about Apple AppStore (only for iOS), Windows App Store (only for WinMo), etc.
This Intel App Store will target MULTIPLE OS. You create one app, you can sell to many different smartphone users.


It's not necessity, it's something good and should have been done. We have Java ME (Mobile Edition), but the apps and games are crap in mobile devices. Qt takes it to a totally different level. Check it out on youTube, see how fast and smooth N95 (yes, N95!!!) running Qt apps.

Who knows right? You're doing assumption also right?

If the app/games put in Intel App Store, can be accessed by multiple smartphone OS. Why not make available to as many as possible and get more people to buy?
It's still better than selling only for one OS.
Plus, who knows what's the plan by Nokia on the Qt? Perhaps, the programmer don't have to do anything, it will be done by the Qt team, or perhaps, there's only very little work or no work at all. Who knows? Are you the Qt developer?

Plus, check out the "Open Screen Project Fund":


I see this as a good thing, no harm having this. Is anybody feel threaten by having such technologies or features available? Why is some people not happy and going negative against something nice to have? If one don't want it, then just leave it, let others enjoy.

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Added on August 30, 2010, 2:39 pmQt is already available bro, it's NOT something new. Please research more first and it's not just use for mobile applications.

Btw, Qt already running v4.6 and above....


This post has been edited by Andy214: Aug 30 2010, 02:39 PM

For me, if Qt successful, then GOOD. If not successful, also no harm to me. So, I don't see what's the problem?
If successful, it'll be GOOD, the more the better, it's beneficial. Imagine, more OS supporting the library, Symbian, MeeGo, Maemo, and possibly more like RIM OS, Web OS, etc.
As I said, it's like Java. The more famous it gets, the better and probably more will adopt it. Plus, from what I've seen, the apps/games developed with it is far better than those Java one.

Whatever it is, it's something good for everyone. If it fails, it doesn't harm us, the consumers. Besides, even if it fails, it will still survive in Symbian, MeeGo and all the OS are were initially planned. It's just whether future OS will adopt it.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Aug 30 2010, 03:50 PM

Why not? BRAND. It's Apple.

If you say Nokia? Er... What? TBH, there're many anti-Nokians in Malaysia... I mean, really REALLY.

For some, we judge the phone based on it's spec, price, features, etc.

TBH, most important is the phone suit your needs and fullfill your requirements. If camera is important for you, no matter how powerful or expensive the phone is, if the camera is not good, it's not good.
So, make the RIGHT choice and choose what you want.
Don't buy something because someone say it's good; but something which YOU think it's good FOR YOU.

I see the problem. You have something with Nokia, that is. SIMPLE.

As I said, as a consumer, it's beneficial for us. SO what if it fails, which part of you feel the pain or hurt? LoL
If it's successful, it's beneficial to everyone.

And why having Java cannot have Qt? Why do you choose only one? LOL!
I don't mind having both, and Qt apps work better than Java the way I see it SO FAR.

Well, whatever, I'm just sharing that Qt is a technology that will benefit people. If you don't like or have grudge against it, why do you bother or here to make noises? I don't get it, it sounded like you have really big grudge against Nokia, but then it doesn't matter, I'm not here to argue with you which is good which is bad, defend who or what. What you don't like or what problem you have, it's yours to take care of, good luck man.

Bro,

You changing N8? Are you still using your milestone?

LoL bro, so fast! What did you get after milestone? N1? Did you getto sell at good price?
Care to share why you let go the milstone? It thought you wanted it since its slimmer and ligther than N900?

That time your Milestone is on Android 2.0? Upgrade to 2.1 should be better right? My friend did and have some improvements. 2.2 should give more improvements, but need to wait a little longer.

SGS seems great, but for people who need physical keyboard will be a problem, hehe. Wait for 2.2 for SGS lor.
Too bad the Milestone 2 doesn't support GSM...

Sorry, do you mean support or do not support?
I suppose you mean support? The last I check seems doesn't support, or I see wrongly, maybe I was looking at the Droid-X.
What about Droid, I think one of it isn't lock right?

EDIT: Just check gsmarena, the milestone 2 seems like new entry, announced September 2010. I think I was looking at Droid 2 previously.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 6 2010, 12:00 AM

Thanks~

As long as you're satisfied with it

Yea, just edited my post, I guess previously I've been following the Droid 2.

I remember reading the Droid didn't have lock bootloader, but not sure, just read only:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid
Unlike the DROID, the Milestone has a bootloader that only allows signed Firmware to load. This prevents users from booting Custom ROM images not signed by Motorola that have become popular in the Droid modding community. This has caused discontent in the Droid community in markets foreign to the US. Whether the disabling of custom boot loaders is due to retailer, carrier, manufacturer, or legal restrictions is unknown and the primary reason(s) may differ in each individual market.

That sux, lol; I guess can only say, it might not matter to average users, but there will be lack of some "goodies" for them.

Okok, back to N8.

Actually, Android can use swap too, but from what I know, you will need to set the swap on the memory card.
As you have said, each device have their target audience; Maemo have great potential and it's different from the normal smartphones; too bad Nokia abandon it in early stage; It's already dead since it was launched, it's lucky there is a strong community with many pros filling in the missing features.

As a phone, imagine not providing MMS, Contacts Grouping, Contacts Ringtone assignments, etc; It sux, and they never provide it even after multiple updates and guess what, the community have provided few of the features and Nokia didn't even make an effort to provide it until today.
I just can say, no matter how good a product is, if there is no support, it'll be dead in no time; it's only surviving thanks to the maemo community, but what does the future holds for it, especially when people switch to another different platform/device or when MeeGo is out?


AFAIK, it depends on the settings; For Maemo, it seems the default settings is at 100 for swappiness; No real idea what it means in terms of when it will start using the swap. The community has suggested to change the swappiness for smoother response, such as 30 or even 0; It does improve the performance/response, but the swap will still be use up and seems not cleared when no more apps is opened. For this, we can issue command to turn the swap off and turn it back on, as a dirty? solution to clear the swap instead of having to restart the device.

The main problem I find is, this part isn't well managed as some important/core processes can stop responding or hang. Is it being because it's moved to the swap memory? NO idea. I personally just find this unacceptable.

For Nokia, usually Nokia Professional or Nokia Shops (Hello Station?) should have most of the latest device on demo, which lets you try out, molest, leave your fingerprint, etc. Usually those device which has not release and you only have AP Set, then you have not much choice, but with nowadays technology, there's always YouTube for tons of hands-on, unboxing, etc. More than enough to make you understand in and out of the phone clearly... unlike last time...

Probably, after all, part of the team was from Nokia Research Center?

http://fcam.garage.maemo.org/

FCam is the result of the Camera 2.0 joint research project on programmable cameras and computational photography between Marc Levoy's group in the Stanford Computer Graphics Laboratory and Kari Pulli's team at Nokia Research Center Palo Alto (the team has now an open internship position). A paper describing the FCam architecture, the motivation behind it, and some applications, was presented at SIGGRAPH 2010.

Some examples of apps using the FCam drivers, such as, HDR and LowLight:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/07/27/...light-examples/

Review from a blogger:
http://ericscorner.blogspot.com/2010/07/fc...900-review.html

This post has been edited by Andy214: Sep 11 2010, 12:03 AM

I heard Camera ZOOM FX was better but it's a paid app. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think both also doesn't have manual focus option. Not really sure about this 2 app in detail, but the FCam is an API for easy and precise control of digital cameras, so developers can make use of this API and build apps. As such, the default provided is FCam software which comes with several features, such as various exposure settings, manual focus, touch focus, etc.

The FCam app itself in auto mode takes great pictures, almost as if it's edited by a pro; The N900 camera is so-so only, but this FCam brings it to a total different level... I wonder what it can do to others with better camera specs.

There's 2 sample/beta app which uses the FCam API, such as, HDR app, which let's you take HDR shots, (e.g. auto combine 3 shots of different exposure), and also LowLight app, which combines 2 picture to get a less noisy and sharp picture.

Same with N900 too, for no-flash, you can try adjust ISO to highest and higher exposure like +1. For indoor shots, usually I use EV +1. If you don't want noise, you can set lowest ISO but will result in blur if your hand is not steady.

If you use flash, then you can set lowest ISO settings, but I don't like the effects of flash so I don't usually use flash.

Maybe you already know, but just sharing what I know.

Yup, AP not available yet. Some LYN forummer selling around 3.3K; Some of them bought, use for 1 week or so and sells it; I think one of them is because lack of MMS support, then later he buy it again after AP launch, that time we already have fMMS.

Before those big AP companies and shops gets it, some companies start selling it online through lelong, such as automationbites and ipmart; That time the price was around RM2.6K and later drop to around RM2.4K, and when those big AP companies start distributing it, it was around RM2K~RM2.2K depending on seller/shops. It was also always out of stock when it first came in. The worst part is, not one Nokia helpdesk/support/etc knows if it will launch in Malaysia, some even mailed to Nokia UK (I think) and was informed that there was no plans to launch in APAC.
Quietly and surprisingly, suddenly an announcement was made and it will be launch in about like 1 month time? Very sudden. I think jloi mentioned his friend got invited to one of the workshop and got a free unit.
Anyway, the launching here seems very small, unlike in HK and India and they're so interested and keen on that product, even very knowledgeable on the platform/etc.
I also saw one of Nokia Shop start selling 1 unit of N810

Well, hopefully there will not be situations like this again...

In the video last part, below regain the TOP:
? C,X,E 7
! N 8
? N 9
&.... (is that a Joker card)?


Which device will be the Joker card?

C7, X7, E7 and N9:
http://noknok.tv/2010/06/09/nokia-c7-nokia...-due-this-year/