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 Nokia N8 V3, Coming Soon!!!

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BuFung
post Sep 6 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 6 2010, 12:07 AM)
Yea, just edited my post, I guess previously I've been following the Droid 2.

I remember reading the Droid didn't have lock bootloader, but not sure, just read only:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid
Unlike the DROID, the Milestone has a bootloader that only allows signed Firmware to load. This prevents users from booting Custom ROM images not signed by Motorola that have become popular in the Droid modding community. This has caused discontent in the Droid community in markets foreign to the US. Whether the disabling of custom boot loaders is due to retailer, carrier, manufacturer, or legal restrictions is unknown and the primary reason(s) may differ in each individual market.
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sadly... Moto already said they will lock all it new phone's bootloader...



QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 12:07 AM)
You orang semua sudah gila ka???  mad.gif  mad.gif

Android sini, Android sana,  mad.gif  mad.gif

Keluar Keluar... Semuanya PENDATANG  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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ok.. keep quiet now ... Aku keluar..

good night all...
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 12:07 AM)
You orang semua sudah gila ka???  mad.gif  mad.gif

Android sini, Android sana,  mad.gif  mad.gif

Keluar Keluar... Semuanya PENDATANG  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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lols... laugh.gif


Added on September 6, 2010, 12:14 am
QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 12:01 AM)
If you are able to get one cheap, it should be a good experience...

However, as usual, Nokia has kinda abandon the N900 so now its more heavily supported by the community itself... worth trying? I cant see Maemo getting any attention since Nokia already stated that it will dance along with Intel for Meego.
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Got Bufung and Aspire support then ok ady tongue.gif
ahahahah...

This post has been edited by hengguowei: Sep 6 2010, 12:14 AM
BuFung
post Sep 6 2010, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Sep 6 2010, 12:13 AM)
lols... laugh.gif


Added on September 6, 2010, 12:14 am

Got Bufung and Aspire support then ok ady tongue.gif
ahahahah...
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wee... which one I sappot ah???
andrekua
post Sep 6 2010, 12:18 AM

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I really have to raise white flag. I thought was impossible. However, I die die also must bring my thumbdrive to Ranger programme and test kao kao why N8 can play HD while my Legend can't. Same CPU but different 80MHz nia. Some more mine with more RAM. This one I don't investigate also cannot die peacefully.
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 12:05 AM)
Hahaha...

You can prove me wrong also... but dont talk imaginary stuffs la.
If you are correct you can counter attack... I dont mind cos Im getting to learn as well...

Sometimes I do get my hdd (memory) corrupted and therefore need to be reinstall... but dont install malware lor...
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dont see da point. My point is ppl confuse of all the rams meaning. I just share with ppl the meaning so they understand thats all.
The argument of low memory issue been going on for so long.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Sep 6 2010, 12:21 AM
Andy214
post Sep 6 2010, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 6 2010, 12:13 AM)
sadly...  Moto already said they will lock all it new phone's bootloader... 
ok..  keep quiet now ... Aku keluar..

good night all...
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That sux, lol; I guess can only say, it might not matter to average users, but there will be lack of some "goodies" for them.

Okok, back to N8.
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 12:18 AM)
I really have to raise white flag. I thought was impossible. However, I die die also must bring my thumbdrive to Ranger programme and test kao kao why N8 can play HD while my Legend can't. Same CPU but different 80MHz nia. Some more mine with more RAM. This one I don't investigate also cannot die peacefully.
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Android kalah here.. laugh.gif

the GPU play an important rules here....

half bite fruit play full HD video oh.. that is really surprising...

my Pentium Duo Core also play like "pulling bull up to tree"... hahaha...
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 6 2010, 12:13 AM)
sadly...  Moto already said they will lock all it new phone's bootloader... 
ok..  keep quiet now ... Aku keluar..

good night all...
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Opppsss, gua sudah silap kao kao again...

Should be MASUK, back to topic.. instead of asking KELUAR, for out of topic...
Ha-ha

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post Sep 6 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 01:18 AM)
I really have to raise white flag. I thought was impossible. However, I die die also must bring my thumbdrive to Ranger programme and test kao kao why N8 can play HD while my Legend can't. Same CPU but different 80MHz nia. Some more mine with more RAM. This one I don't investigate also cannot die peacefully.
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It must be the GPU rendering i guess wink.gif
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 6 2010, 12:23 AM)
Android kalah here.. laugh.gif 

the GPU play an important rules here.... 

half bite fruit play full HD video oh..  that is really surprising... 

my Pentium Duo Core also play like "pulling bull up to tree"...  hahaha...
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Did the GPU really play the big role? I'm asking because even my HD4850 1GB can't play Full HD smoothly. I'm suspecting some sort of trick with the conversion format. Actually today I played around the conversion format. By default, some formats are hardware accelerated. That is why gua want to bring my own video to test. Even with AVI or WMV, you can choose the video format which are being accelerated instead of those which rely on CPU alone. I tested just one format today. HD rmvb totally unplayable but after converting to MP4 still can accept although a bit laggy. Next gonna try VC.
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 01:40 AM)
Did the GPU really play the big role? I'm asking because even my HD4850 1GB can't play Full HD smoothly. I'm suspecting some sort of trick with the conversion format. Actually today I played around the conversion format. By default, some formats are hardware accelerated. That is why gua want to bring my own video to test. Even with AVI or WMV, you can choose the video format which are being accelerated instead of those which rely on CPU alone. I tested just one format today. HD rmvb totally unplayable but after converting to MP4 still can accept although a bit laggy. Next gonna try VC.
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My HD4850 served me well , haven't had any problems with video playback.

You should try using Media Player Classic with some codecs , it has some hardware acceleration which i don't really know. Playback Full HD no problems.
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Sep 6 2010, 12:47 AM)
My HD4850 served me well , haven't had any problems with video playback.

You should try using Media Player Classic with some codecs , it has some hardware acceleration which i don't really know. Playback Full HD no problems.
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Yeah, the stupid DXVA isnt it?
I checked liao then play 720p and 1080p also laggy...

I Googled up and find that people has varying experience on it. Some claimed smooth and some just like me, laggy.
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 6 2010, 12:40 AM)
Did the GPU really play the big role? I'm asking because even my HD4850 1GB can't play Full HD smoothly. I'm suspecting some sort of trick with the conversion format. Actually today I played around the conversion format. By default, some formats are hardware accelerated. That is why gua want to bring my own video to test. Even with AVI or WMV, you can choose the video format which are being accelerated instead of those which rely on CPU alone. I tested just one format today. HD rmvb totally unplayable but after converting to MP4 still can accept although a bit laggy. Next gonna try VC.
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Of course it's format dependant, if ur hardware have that particular codec that build for that format, it save much processing power of ur cpu while using software codec....

Normally hardware codec r only build for the format which is mainstream in the market.... Don't expect it play wmv in fullHD of course...

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post Sep 6 2010, 12:53 AM

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am i come in the wrong thread? this isn't N8 thread? whistling.gif

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post Sep 6 2010, 12:56 AM

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all seem floating due to lack of N8 info for further more detail discussion... hmm.gif
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post Sep 6 2010, 12:56 AM

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This isn't N8 thread...
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post Sep 6 2010, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 6 2010, 12:51 AM)
Of course it's format dependant, if ur hardware have that particular codec that build for that format, it save much processing power of ur cpu while using software codec....

Normally hardware codec r only build for the format which is mainstream in the market.... Don't expect it play wmv  in fullHD of course...
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Theres more to it...
I think they tinker with more than codec alone...

I have to research more into it. Thats why I want to bring the pendrive and test with N8. I have 720P RMVB from TVBNOW and it was totally unplayable. Converted to both format supported by the phone acceleration, MPEG4 (XVID) and H264 but also laggy and audio gone missing after a while. I noticed that bitrate maybe too high... 4000~6000++. Im loweing it to 2400 and retest...

Anyway, found an old article about HTC crippling its MSM72xx line video playback... maybe thats why...

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It's the waiting that causes the change of topic. Haha!!
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post Sep 6 2010, 02:09 AM

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when will this phone be released?? dammit so tempting!!
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post Sep 6 2010, 02:25 AM

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Positive feedback from iPhone lover that test the N8.

http://mytechnews.info/b/2010/09/nokia-n8-preview.html

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I was invited to a preview session of the soon-to-be-launched Nokia N8 yesterday evening where I had another chance to play with the device after my initial introduction at the Nokia Connection event in Singapore in June of this year.  This time, the firmware is very close to the version that will be shipping on the retail units (it was RC1, for the geeks, and this normally means that it is very close to final).

Let’s get the most burning questions out of the way first.  It’s slated for launch at the end of this month, with availability in October.  There is unlikely to be any exclusive deal with any of the celcos.  Price is not yet determined – at the moment, it is still €370 (RM 1,484) before taxes and subsidies.  So much will depend on how much tax is slapped on the phone by the Malaysian authorities.

The earliest retail units will ship with the following in the box – phone transceiver, USB-to-go adapter, HDMI adapter, charger, micro USB cable, wired headset and a limited stock back cover for the early adopters.  If I recall correctly, the dark grey and white colours will be available at launch, with green, blue and orange to be available later.

Click here for the N8′s official specifications in case you have forgotten.  I’ll just summarise for you my impressions after playing with it again last night.

    * overall system feels faster (but this is not to say it was slow when I played with it in June!).
    * scrolling is smoother.  Kinetic scrolling is nicely implemented.  Scrolling between the three homescreens with a maximum of 18 widgets (17 of which is customisable) is fast.
    * navigation around the menus has been simplified with less taps to perform certain actions compared to s60v5 (the operating system that powered Nokia’s first touchscreen phones such as the 5800 and N97).
    * haptic feedback is soft yet noticeable – I feel this is the best implementation on a smartphone so far.
    * the screen is beautiful – it shows vibrant and lively colours (the pictures I took of the screen below really do not do it justice).
    * the browser is fast and supports Flash Lite – it’s one of the few browsers around that can render the Flash object (the visitor counter) on this blog successfully.
    * the 12 megapixel camera with Xenon flash is second to none really.  Nokia says that the sensor in the camera is equivalent to some of the point-and-shoot cameras on the market today.  The camera has a “face tracking” feature.  I’ve attached some pictures below, you can download the “raw” version here.
    * HD video taking at 1280 x 720 pixel is supported, at 25fps.  See the sample which I uploaded to YouTube below.  You can download the raw MP4 file in the same link as the pictures above.  Videos and photos were taken in a room with flourescent lighting.  Video geo-tagging is supported.  I was told the N8 records videos in stereo sound using its two mics.
    * video playback through HDMI was excellent.  5.1 stereo is supported.  Playback of the Tron Legacy movie trailer was superb when connected to an external LCD TV, and to a 5.1 surround sound system.  Has to be seen to be believed.
    * supports USB-to-go, where you can plug in a thumbdrive formatted in FAT32 file format and play back media files on the thumbdrive, perform copy and paste file operations, etc.  You can even connect a USB external hard disk, although it needs to be separately powered as the phone doesn’t output sufficient juice to power these larger devices.
    * the new Social app, which has a homescreen widget, consolidates your Facebook, Twitter feeds/streams of your contacts.  You can look up a Facebook contact and immediately create a contact profile based on their Facebook profile.  So, there is some level of Facebook and Twitter integration on the N8 which is good news.
    * the N8 will come with free lifetime Ovi Maps with Navigation as well as a lifetime license of Nokia Messaging for push emails.
    * there will only be one model – 16GB built in memory, plus up to 32GB in micro SD card, making a total of 48GB, more memory than one of my netbooks!
    * on screen soft/virtual keyboard has improved significantly from the s60v5 version which powered the first Nokia touchscreen phones, such as the 5800 and N97.
    * no user removable parts – the battery, although a standard 1200mAh BL-4D (same as the N97 Mini and E5) is not easily accessible, all part of a design decision to make the N8 look sleeker as it is fashioned out of a single piece of aluminium (like the HTC Legend).

Things I felt could be improved:

    * the screen is a real fingerprint/smudge magnet!  If you have oily and sweaty fingers, expect to wipe down the screen often.  I have suggested a screen protector to be included in the package, one that does not attract fingerprints easily.
    * the camera, in auto mode, does not seem able to focus on objects close up properly.  I had to force it to macro mode to take “proper” close up pictures.  Perhaps it was due to the lighting?

Overall, I liked the phone and am looking forward to having a retail unit to play with and review.  So stay tuned.  In the meantime, here are some pictures I took of the device and preview session yesterday.  Sorry for some of the blurry photos, it is very difficult to shoot pictures of screens which reflect light a lot!


and his a Malaysian. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: Sep 6 2010, 02:26 AM

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