lol using N82 black also...maybe green see the color first, then i decide...prolly wont pick silver, never like that color actually

actually that's pretty damn fast...my LX-3 also max up to 1/2000 only...lol
also, i don think there'll ever be enough light for that shutter speed for normal photography..unless you bump the ISO..but you know what that means as well, more noise..
generally a 1/80 speed is already quite enough

no, from what i know from the interview at GSMArena, it's fully automated..but i think i'll be seeing an app for manual settings eventually..

actually don set ISO value too high, it would either result in more noise, or less detail due to noise reduction filter, or even both...those DSLR one can afford to do that cos their lens are hell lot better then N8's lens..for N8, i think better stay lower then ISO 400 for a somewhat clean image...
and for high speed object, normally 1/2000 also enough..IMO 1/4000 is kinda overkill for phones

sure will share..don worry..lol
if you find remember share here also lor..hehe

actually i don think that's any issue, F2.8 is really good, in fact, most digital camera are having F3.5-F5.9, their highest Aperture setting is not even at match with N8..lower aperture(represented by higher value) are actually better for capturing landscapes, so that the whole image would be sharper

sorry to say, it's actually the other way round...
small sensor with high pixel count -> more noise
large sensor with same pixel count -> less noise
large sensor with less pixel count -> even less noise

contrary to what most consumers understand out there, higher megapixels does not means higher quality, in fact, it's the other way round. You see those digital camera that has 1/2.33 sensor size but put 14MP, the picture you take wont be clean at all, or detail would be lost due to NR filter. Lower megapixels will result in less noise, not more.

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not too fancy with all those limited edition thing...always extra price for no improvement...lol

i think i'll pick black over green as well...i notice for green, the top and bottom cover have slight color difference then the body color

You mean Image Processor and their Image Processing Engine for digital cameras. For same sensor size and same megapixel, you will see the difference, but it will not help much...I prefer unprocessed image, so that i have full control on how to process it
someone make N8 app that have manual control and shots RAW please? lol

i die die will do that..better protect our gears..later see scratch here scratch there..damn sien one

no, not just that. A camera processing engine handles White Balance, the control of exposure, color vibrant, and also noise reduction, not just noise reduction..
A good Image Processing Engine would also provide faster image processing speed also..

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Added on September 9, 2010, 2:52 pmyeah, true on that...if you use knife to 'scratch' sure die case one lol

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if you mean in a condition where light is very sufficient, like outdoor for example, even normal DC would perform great. The real test on normal DC is dim light condition where they would manually bump the ISO, noise would be horrible...

even when there are no noise, it maybe due to aggressive noise reduction filtering. The picture would be ok to look at, it might smear out some of the fine details..if your usage is just upload to facebook then maybe it's ok, but when u view in full size pixel by pixel, you can see you actually lost quite a lot of details one

lol i believe you might have...i say i want an app like that..dunno achievable a not one yet

actually there's a paragraph:

"Natural and vibrant image
BIONZ Image Processing Engine drastically lowers noise level and achieves high accuracy in auto-focusing, exposure auto-correction and auto white balancing; creating a more natural and vibrant image in different shooting environments."

Generation by generation, the hardware they throw in would normally be better. In this case where hardware(processing chip) can perform better, they would also pair it with a better image processing engine. Like my LX-3 for example, it uses Venus Engine IV, while it's successor, LX-5 i think uses Venus Engine HD, and with that engine it has improve a lot in terms of burst show RAW limit, color correction, etc etc...

so it's not just the processor itself, the engine they pair with the processor also plays an important role in the picture quality

with that said, i do hope nokia brings some serious processing engine in the N8 since it's so much powerful then any previous phone from them...

This post has been edited by BBXiong: Sep 9 2010, 03:09 PM

well, like i mentioned, normally outdoor scenes it would look very nice..somemore that one is a macro shot, it's normal for background to be blur, cos the focus point is too close to the lens that it couldn't focus the background too..for macro shot it's easy to get blurry background effect actually.

I recall N8 using OMAP 3430, which runs a PowerVR SGX530, not Broadcom BCM2727...according to OMAP 3430's specification, the PowerVR is used to encode/decore video and process image as well..

no problem there dude, just sharing what i know with u all, hope those help

and to be honest, i really think although the sensor is big, but due to the limit of the lens, the phone should be a 8megapixel instead of 12..no need so many
besides, we don really have any single monitor that can fit a full 8MP at 1:1 pixel yet right...hehe

yeah, i recall iDonCare 4 has its back shattered from a mere 30cm drop

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i tot that's being confirmed already?? hmm..need to dig some news already

maybe that's for when we play/record HD video, cos when i google, this is the result

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Added on September 9, 2010, 3:27 pmbut matte type screen protector would normally slightly degrade the brightness one right?

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maybe the one we saw on youtube is Gorilla Mama Glass and N8 is using Gorilla Papa Glass? lol

fixed..

i think sharpness also affected right?

link please? i also wanna take a look on it myself

maybe he really can...lol

You see, this is how HTC sells for now. 2 OS line up, Android and the yet-to-come WP7, with the choice of only 2, so that user can clearly choose what they want. Samsung, Bada or Android, while SE, Android...so you notice, their OS lineup will not be too much. It's good idea to target more, but it would also easily confuse consumers on what they should get. right now their planning is: High end, Meego, mid range to low end, Symbian, with variant of S^3 to s40. If they were to add Android, where would the positioning be..not just that, Nokia would have to make a lot more stuff, like their OVI, Nokia Maps, this and that for their new Android..the thought of wanting nokia to sell android is simple, but as for the implementation....
with those extra cost, nokia might as well just continue polish Symbian so that it returns as a very good rival of Android..it's always good to have more choices of good OS

lol i think is mainly cos Nokia too stingy on dev cost for something new like Android..and they too proud to use something from other people?

this one also quite subjective right? Those apek apek that know nothing about phone prolly thinks S40 is the best OS cos they don really touch the advance stuff..cos maybe normal people, an OS that's responsive enough, have good browser and some eye candy is the best..while for us, totally different again..