anyway any pro on camera can PM me a link to read up on photography knowledge? especially on lens size..i totally dunno what those 24mm, 20mm, 35mm are... >.<

lol.u pm me.

can't post the link here? i want to know too

N8 germany tour
http://mobilelivingroom.de/Nokia-N8-Tour-a...D%C3%BCsseldorf
ENJOY!

we can only know when using the camera.

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Added on August 26, 2010, 7:40 amrefer to page 5 of this thread the info all there

If u really wanna know there still alot to learn like ISO, Aperture, Focal Length and etc but those are indepth


Yea are more info (taken from DSLR site but the basic information its the same)

Aperture:
Lenses use an iris, or diaphragm, to adjust the amount of light entering diaphragm and falling on the camera’s APS (Active Pixel Sensor). Digital SLR gives you the option of buying a fast lens like Canon’s EF-S series of lenses designed for night and low-light photography. Keep in mind that fast lenses also make the viewfinder brighter, since they let more light in.

ISO range:
Digital SLR or EOS cameras offer a wide range of ISO, ranging from 50 to 3200 and in 25 increments. ISO range is one of the most important factors for digital night and low-light photography. Photography is the art of lighting and how to handle the light entering cameras lens. Three settings can control light entering the camera: aperture setting, shutter speed and ISO range. High ISO with acceptable quality is what we are after in night and low-light photography. Try to test your digital camera of choice before purchasing one or read some reviews over the Internet to make sure they can produce acceptable qualities at their higher end or mid range ISO numbers.

White balance:
This function controls and corrects color casts that camera detects in the scene. DSLR cameras present a much more complicated way of customizing white balance. Normally the Auto White Balance (AWB) setting will set the optimum white balance automatically. If natural-looking colors cannot be obtained by AWB, DSLR cameras allow you to obtain it manually to suit the respective light source through custom white balance. For example, Canon’s way in producing custom white balance is to shoot a white object that will serve as the basis for the white balance setting.


This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Aug 26 2010, 08:06 AM

Who is comparing it to LX3? You lor...

What Im saying is a pro can use a low end camera and take good picture and a noob can use a pro camera and take shit picture with it... Im noob in photography...

BTW, N85 is top quality? I bought one for my wife, I dont see the image quality being top quality. In fact, poor even amongst 5MP.

we are not comparing. Both from different class. One is a semi pro class one is a smartphone class.

We only compare the size of the lens why N8 is one of the best in smartphone class with the best sensor combination.


Its really on your RM50 ringgit note just that its so tiny with your naked eyes u can hardly realize it
Try it to believe it hehe







For u guys to learn the above screen shot is a 0cm macro zoom. Smartphone class havent reach this stage yet not even one.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Aug 26 2010, 09:42 AM

I think for mobile phone camera you should learn on ISO and WB would be enough... Aperture, Shutterspeed are not necessary needed to know for mobile phone camera technology yet.

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Added on August 26, 2010, 8:58 amN85 once i though is good enough, but it never be since i got myself DSLR

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Added on August 26, 2010, 9:04 amThe smaller the size of lens (24mm) the wider the angle of view will be.

i don think it is important for phone camera, as it is without the capability to zoom (lens). Normally they fixed the lens size to get desired lens aperture (F-number)

This post has been edited by Alexdino: Aug 26 2010, 09:04 AM

Its not necessary but for some that read photo EXIF like me they will question because these setting will appear there cheers.
Actually it depends what u are taking. If u are trying to take group photo you dont need to stand so back just trying to fit everyone in.

Hope that clears everyone confusion



This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Aug 26 2010, 09:40 AM

lolz...ok..my bad..i miss understood...
and N85 is that bad? i tot it was rather good...crap...i really need to update myself a bit liao

lol..that close kah? never tried with my camera before...the smallest thing i ever tried is a laptop screw...
and yeah, sadly say, it's impossible for smartphone camera to perform that way yet..

but i think it will serves as a very very good camera replacement for most people

lol.. who said that N85 camera is bad..?? in fact it is one of the top 8 the best camera phone in Nokia[for 5 mpx ]

it always depend..

Aperture good on effects (bokeh, paranoma)

Shutterspeed and ISO is your best shoot during night, lower shutterspeed but up to 1/15 (where still able to capture non shacky photo) with high ISO

White balance is a problem toward most of the DSLR out there, a white paper in hand and a manual WB setting within the camera should be able to get the color accuracy.

ISO itu senang loh, if possible use lower ISO for crispy detail, high ISO always suffer from noise reduction

nice explaination

depth of field and bokeh same meaning

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Aug 26 2010, 11:16 AM

any idea when this phone release in masia?

@accab
no news yet, all of us still waiting for N8 launch

thanks cloud
how about price?below RM?

why become camera thread already?anyway,learn alot from the explanation

i think is about 2000+/-......but i'm hoping it's launch below RM2000

well the N8 got a God like camera hardware mah, that's why all this camera discussion start
yea .....i'm also learn alots from the forumer discussion

BTW where is all the N8 kaki go? busy?

This post has been edited by cloud8318: Aug 26 2010, 02:38 PM

Nokia main selling point is in smartphone class it have the lowest optical sensor

The size of a camera sensor will have a big impact on the quality of your pictures. The lens gathers light and directs it towards the sensor, and the sensor records the light to create the image.
Large sensor produces better images

All things being equal, a larger sensor will receive more light than a smaller one, and produce better images. This is especially important in low light photography.

When light levels are low, a smaller sensor will generate a higher amount of noise, which will decrease the quality of the images. This is why the best low-light setups include a camera with a large sensor (usually a DSLR) and a lens with a large aperture.

For more understand of camera sensor
http://www.digicamhelp.com/camera-features...ts/sensor-size/

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Aug 26 2010, 02:45 PM

seems like u r very pro in photography,see your klcc photo taken by N900 and feel impress.