QUOTE(SunofaBeach @ Jul 7 2012, 08:26 AM)
Im from engineering background and my job is graduate engineer in an engineering company.
As far as I am living in the UK, most people in here will not proceed to application or promise anything unless there are sure what they are doing (most people I know/ worked with). Shall the working permit/ their license application is unsure and could be subjected to rejections, they would normally inform candidate before letting the candidate to decide whether to accept the job offer (at least this is my experience with other companies before). And it is very common for a global organisation to hire from the UK and have the employee to work abroad (usually suits candidate's field of interest or location of interest and still paid under UK package). I was closed to relocate to Shanghai under same company (were up to working permit process) until I changed my mind to stay back in the UK after careful consideration.
There are cases where some seniors of mine were recruited in the UK and ended up could not obtain working permit approved for some reasons, the company still hire them and send them to work abroad, still paid in £. (In fact a lot more when working abroad if to compare with same job scope in the UK)
I do have a not very closed friend who is a Chinese has got a job offer in banking field recently. Not sure how tough he has to get through but what he has achieved shows there are still chances for foreigners.
The reason I am posting my experience is to encourage junior not to give up simply because of most people's saying - 'impossible or almost impossible to get a job in the UK'. If you really wish to stay and work in the UK, always no harm giving it a try. The worst thing that could happen is just a NO from the company which would not cost you anything despite some time writing email for inquiries/ applications.
Working in the UK and working aboard with a UK compensation package are different things. The issue we are discussing here is not about employment per se. It's employment located in the UK. The fact still remains that it's almost impossible to stay back.
As limeau said, tier 2 still exists so it's not absurd to have some fellows who get to stay back. again provided that you can find a job, so even if quotas are not fulfilled, the job has to be won. You yourself know how the job market for some positions are limited and competitive. Which also points to the fact that companies will have to see the net benefit of hiring one to justify the lengthy process of application.
Are we going to represent this as a possible return on investment to the multitudes of Msians studying in the UK? Many simply rationalise by convincing themselves that they could stay back after their studies in order to spend that RM300-400K on university. How is that even a good investment if that's the thought process? The worst thing that could happen in the end is not a NO from a prospective employer. The worst is having occured to one that the window of opportunity is running out, and one has spent a fortune on something in return for the same job that one could have gotten with a local/twinning degree in Msia.
You want good and almost certain returns, try Canada. the PGWP is unlikely to go and if you speak french, doesn't matter if you work at McD's after your graduation in Quebec.
I work in CH and I don't go around encouraging people by dangling a piece of blurry carrot that they might get at the end of their studies.
Sep 1 2010, 03:02 PM
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I am graduating next week, got a few job offers in the UK earlier this year, accepted and now my company is in the process of applying the license to get me the working permit etc.. 
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