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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Do Your Part, Save The Club!
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kobe8byrant
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Aug 24 2010, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 24 2010, 06:35 PM) What bothers me is that Man City were rubbish against Spurs last week. They weren't. Also, if Mascherano does leave now, Aquiliani going to Juventus would be one of the largest cock-ups Roy could ever make. And as for Mascherano refusing to play, if true, family and what not, it's still a d*** move to refuse to play. This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 24 2010, 07:27 PM
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kobe8byrant
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Aug 24 2010, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 24 2010, 07:49 PM) Must have been watching a different game then because I remember Joe Hart giving a man-of-the-match performance with at least 2 world class saves. Well like us, he's only human. I won't pretend to understand what was going through his head but from what I know of him, he wouldn't do willingly do anything detrimental to the club. A keeper winning MOTM equates to a team being piss poor? Spurs were no better themselves fizzing out after a good 35 minutes or so. You wouldn't pretend to understand what he is going through but then go on to assume he wouldn't do anything detrimental to the club right after he refused to play for the club in a big match early in the season (assuming that he did refuse to play) to get a move to Barca.
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kobe8byrant
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Aug 24 2010, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 24 2010, 09:11 PM) It means the result could easily have been different because you allowed these chances to materialise despite playing what some call, a defensive game. Let's agree to disagree then. For the sake of argument, let me be more politically correct and say, they played below my expectations. How is one the same as the other? I've no idea what they mean when they say he wasn't in the right frame of mind so no point guessing. I didn't say I assumed he wouldn't do anything detrimental to the club. I said that he wouldn't based on what I know and read about him, suggesting I'm basing my opinion on what I know as facts. I don't believe in lynching our own players until it's proven without a shadow of doubt that he was indeed being nothing but selfish. It's a known fact that the media often sensationalises things. The first game of the season against Spurs whom they are potentially fighting with for one of the four top spots and playing for a draw and earning it would be a good result in my books. I'd like to see Liverpool do what City did against Spurs when they do meet. You you said that he wouldn't based on what you know and read about him which is still an assumption because what you know and read about him comes from the same media you just labelled sensationalist.
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kobe8byrant
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Aug 24 2010, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Aug 24 2010, 09:48 PM) So we have different expectations. I doubt some sports journalist wrote the autobiographies of players like Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher. I think accounts from teammates are somewhat accurate. I also think that articles from a magazine like FourFourTwo is credible. In any case, what's wrong with adopting an "innocent until proven guilty" approach? If you lot want to lynch your own players for leaving e.g. Heinze, go ahead. Till this moment, I can't believe that some Liverpool fans blame Xabi Alonso for leaving. Just to add, let's assume all literature has no credibility. The commitment I see from him on the pitch suggests to me that he has always played his heart out for the club whenever he's been given the chance. Actions speak louder than words? I have had nothing but good things to say about Mascherano and I'm not about to turn on him after one press report. The thing about autobiographies are that the sane footballers, what do you expect to pen about their teammates? I mean of course you will have nutters like Keane, Cole and Stam writing stupid things that end up ruining their careers at their clubs while they are there but most of what you read in these books, don't expect them to be 100% honest. More over you mention the two same autobiographies where these two have written politically correct nonsense only to go back on those very words they typed/said/written. Remember the whole "If my teammate ever dive, I'd have a word?" from Gerrard or Carragher's "It wouldn't be right to take up a spot in the national team after other players worked their arses off during qualification." My point is, both the compliments and condemnation written in the press or by these footballers, I really wouldn't trust either.
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kobe8byrant
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Aug 25 2010, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Aug 25 2010, 12:25 AM) I like Masch, but the unsettled family angle is getting a bit tiresome. Seriously, can't imagine how hard it must be to settle into a comfortable life when your other half takes home what, 65 big ones A WEEK? Like I mentioned earlier, it's probably either wanting to play elsewhere or something different that we know not of. Perhaps all the other Argentines are being shelved and Masch feels unwanted? Maybe he thinks that Aqualini is the dog's bollocks? However, I do strongly suspect that RH's pro-british approach might turn off some of the foreign players. But the real thing that has been bugging me is the RBS thing. I believe that the bank has no interest at all in owning a football club - hence the easiest way to recoup their money is to sell off Liverpool's assets. Offer Reina at 20 million - Wenger and Ferguson will probably race to bite your hand off. Torres to anywhere for 50 million...  Based on his past two showings, no thanks. And no way in hell would Reina come to us anyway.
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kobe8byrant
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Sep 23 2010, 04:14 AM
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 23 2010, 03:11 AM) Good..this is a game we should be winning by 3 goals or more..  Yet it's only 1-1
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