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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V45!, The Orange Legion
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ahpingko
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Sep 12 2010, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 12 2010, 08:07 PM) ahpingko: I can't read it but #1 is preferred over #2.
I like the crispness of the first flower shot. Somehow you've made it look very real.
i thought u r chinese.. let me help u translate...we 1 malaysia..  direct translation...xD Tomorrow, the sun still shines , and lavenders still look up to the sky; will my tomorow be better? As long as there is a dream, there will be a hope. The sun will lead us to our dreamed heaven. Added on September 12, 2010, 8:26 pmQUOTE(Windy87 @ Sep 12 2010, 08:21 PM) if i were to shoot people indoor and outdoor. Is there any specific filter for that? looking at all of your pictures, the colours are very vibrant la.. do some post processing will be nice....eg: add slight saturation...xD This post has been edited by ahpingko: Sep 12 2010, 08:28 PM
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zstan
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Sep 12 2010, 08:35 PM
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@ ier, if you are reading this. this is the picture that i mentioned in the sms where the purple flower has become blue. on my monitor, it still appears BLUE! any sifus can rectify? not all purple objects turn out this way though, this flower is reaallly special.
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ahpingko
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Sep 12 2010, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 12 2010, 08:35 PM) @ ier, if you are reading this. this is the picture that i mentioned in the sms where the purple flower has become blue. on my monitor, it still appears BLUE! any sifus can rectify? not all purple objects turn out this way though, this flower is reaallly special.  correct ah..is blue..i saw blue...
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zstan
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Sep 12 2010, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 12 2010, 08:35 PM) correct ah..is blue..i saw blue...  but the flower is PURPLE ma!! y become blue one??
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evilhomura89
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Sep 12 2010, 08:51 PM
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it looks purplish blue..but more to the bluish side... did it occur to the other shots too?
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Windy87
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Sep 12 2010, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 12 2010, 08:24 PM) no need filter...its all down to the settings  i always set WB to auto and colour to standard. dont really know how to play with these settings.. QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 12 2010, 08:25 PM) do some post processing will be nice....eg: add slight saturation...xD hahhha..i thought there is shortcut or something. then i can skip the post processing step. everytime come back with hundreds of pictures.. post processing is tedius.. haha...
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ahpingko
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Sep 12 2010, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(Windy87 @ Sep 12 2010, 08:57 PM) i always set WB to auto and colour to standard. dont really know how to play with these settings.. hahhha..i thought there is shortcut or something. then i can skip the post processing step. everytime come back with hundreds of pictures.. post processing is tedius.. haha... whr got...lol...ur camera wont be so pro all the time...100 shots without any need for PP..impossible..xD... if u use adobe photoshop to do all 100+ pics..then it is troublesome...for large amount of pics with slight editing, tune colors, lighting,etc..use Lightroom much faster..
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Windy87
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Sep 12 2010, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 12 2010, 08:48 PM) but the flower is PURPLE ma!! y become blue one??  did u use flash? last time i shoot a person wearing a purple tie and comes out blue.. like this one This post has been edited by Windy87: Sep 12 2010, 09:01 PM
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fansoption
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Sep 12 2010, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 12 2010, 08:07 PM) Thanks all! Mikeshashimi: If I could choose just one camera, I would go for the A55 over the NEX-5. evilhomura89: Yes they were. zstan: Nicely done. Though you can 'interfere' and adjust the fringe. Probably would've wanted more of her thighs as well and a bit more space (that she is looking at.) ahpingko: I can't read it but #1 is preferred over #2. I like the crispness of the first flower shot. Somehow you've made it look very real. fansoption: Crop the top bit off #1. #2 geli. #3 crop tighter and adjust perspective (use the Transform tool in Photoshop - Ctrl-T). #6 would work better in portrait mode. #8 show more of the waterfall to show it chilling. Love #9! This one is outstanding. freddy manson: Yes, I have played with my friend's Hasselblad 501CM with Carl Zeiss Planar T* 80mm F2.8 CF and A12 back.  However this was a manual focus back and you can use the entire ground glass for focusing anywhere in the frame. Thank for comment my pic
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Windy87
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Sep 12 2010, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 12 2010, 08:59 PM) whr got...lol...ur camera wont be so pro all the time...100 shots without any need for PP..impossible..xD... if u use adobe photoshop to do all 100+ pics..then it is troublesome...for large amount of pics with slight editing, tune colors, lighting,etc..use Lightroom much faster..  LOL!!! heard of lightroom before.. but haven really venture into it yet. Final exam coming in 6 days!! LOL!!!
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zstan
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Sep 12 2010, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 12 2010, 08:51 PM) it looks purplish blue..but more to the bluish side... did it occur to the other shots too? yess!!! but only this flower!!  i thought is my sensor problem or wad. =/ QUOTE(ahpingko @ Sep 12 2010, 08:59 PM) whr got...lol...ur camera wont be so pro all the time...100 shots without any need for PP..impossible..xD... if u use adobe photoshop to do all 100+ pics..then it is troublesome...for large amount of pics with slight editing, tune colors, lighting,etc..use Lightroom much faster..  100 shots is possible...i notice that i PP less and less pictures nowadays compared to 2 years ago QUOTE(Windy87 @ Sep 12 2010, 09:00 PM) did u use flash? last time i shoot a person wearing a purple tie and comes out blue.. like this one » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « waa...why like that a??
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geekster129
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Sep 12 2010, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 12 2010, 08:35 PM) @ ier, if you are reading this. this is the picture that i mentioned in the sms where the purple flower has become blue. on my monitor, it still appears BLUE! any sifus can rectify? not all purple objects turn out this way though, this flower is reaallly special.  Maybe tweaking the white balance may help? This post has been edited by geekster129: Sep 13 2010, 09:04 AM
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zstan
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Sep 12 2010, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Sep 12 2010, 09:27 PM) Maybe tweaking the white balance may help?  Or probably it's because of how our eyes perceive differently than what was actually captured by the cam. Perhaps, playing with the shutter speed also to trick the purple spectrum to your cam? Just some of my thoughts.  oh mai. why so technical now hmmm..so many reasons that contributed to this purple become blue thingy...
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kysham
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Sep 12 2010, 10:09 PM
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It looks more wb issue than anything else. Not all sensors are created the same, meaning they don't all pick up the same colors and inteprete them as such. Try adjusting the colors in post processing to give you the output you want.
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albnok
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Sep 12 2010, 10:38 PM
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Alpha Male
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Windy87: The most practical solution is to use a flash.  To make colors vibrant, simply set your Creative Style to Vivid and adjust contrast and saturation as you like. I like Vivid +1 +2 +3. I've reworked your shot a bit, making masks for both the face and tie (hint: you can use a color channel as a mask; it's a lot faster than painting it in): ahpingko: Didn't go to SRJK© mah. zstan: Firstly, your WB is a bit off - a bit cold. After fixing that, I pulled up the reds that were 'hiding' behind the very strong blues.  I've written a tutorial here to recover colors, which I used for both your picture and Windy87's: http://www.glaringnotebook.com/default.asp?id=1313
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albnok
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Sep 12 2010, 10:40 PM
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Alpha Male
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Also, here is a repost from another forum:
Pros of A33/A55 over A560/A580: - A55 has 10 FPS - video recording has phase-detect AF (A560/A580 is manual focus video) - no loud mirror slap sound - no mirror shake - the swivel LCD is arguably more practical and can be folded to protect the screen - you can change all your settings in the EVF (ISO is missing from the A450/A500/A550; don't know if it came back in the A560/A580) - you can use the EVF in bright sunlight - you can playback pictures in the EVF (useful for chimping in low light conditions and places where you don't want the LCD to be glaring) - you don't get the ghosting from the side LEDs in the viewfinder that the A450/A500/A550 suffered from (I don't know if they've fixed this on the A560/A580) - A55V has built-in GPS unit - A33/A55 has much bigger viewfinder - A33/A55 always has phase detect AF in Live View; A560/A580 has phase detect AF in Quick AF LV, and contrast detect AF in main-sensor-based Focus Check LV (since CDAF is introduced, they cannot call it MF Check LV anymore.) - you don't get inconsistent WB from MF Check LV compared to Quick AF LV (my experience on the A550)
Cons of A33/A55 versus A560/A580: - EVF exhibits RGB tearing in bright contrasty light - weaker battery life - 10 FPS mode shows last picture taken, not live feed - smaller - does not support battery grip - supposedly less light and thus more sensor amplification (have to wait for DxO to get the official numbers) - the shutter has to go down first and then open and then go down again and then open again (like the NEX-3 and NEX-5, or the A550 in MF Check LV) - mirror absolutely must not be touched as there is no way to clean it - if there is any backfocus you cannot tune it as easily as you can on a body where the AF unit is on the bottom of the camera - in 10 FPS mode, the aperture is fixed to as close as F3.5 as possible (meaning a F1.4 lens will shoot at F3.5, and a F5.6 lens will shoot at F5.6) - in video with AF, the aperture is fixed to as close as F3.5 as possible (meaning for videos in low light needing F1.4, you should switch to MF to allow the aperture to be at F1.4) - EVF means you cannot manually focus the lens or check framing when the camera is off
Both the A33/A55 and A560/A580 have magnified view when focusing.
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RazorVista
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Sep 12 2010, 10:44 PM
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hi, i hope to add me to your a700 userlist here...thanks! at the same time, i would like to ask anyone got back focusing problem with a700? my center meter is ok...just other meters give me quite a big problem!!!
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Mikeshashimi
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Sep 12 2010, 10:44 PM
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mirror absolutely must not be touched as there is no way to clean it-for real? theres absolutely NO way?
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signither
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Sep 12 2010, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Sep 12 2010, 10:44 PM) mirror absolutely must not be touched as there is no way to clean it-for real? theres absolutely NO way?  i think so, have u seen how fragile the mirror is: QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 4 2010, 06:52 AM)  A cutaway of the A55 (or was it the A33, since there was no GPS label on the left?) How does the mirror look like?  Let's enhance! What happens to translucent mirrors that get touched? They get donated to science. Yep, it does appear to be a thin membrane.  Another shot. It does not appear to be completely flat (but it could have lost tension or could be a prototype.) Now I have no idea how you'd fix backfocus/frontfocus if it happens...
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evilhomura89
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Sep 12 2010, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Sep 12 2010, 10:40 PM) Also, here is a repost from another forum: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Pros of A33/A55 over A560/A580: - A55 has 10 FPS - video recording has phase-detect AF (A560/A580 is manual focus video) - no loud mirror slap sound - no mirror shake - the swivel LCD is arguably more practical and can be folded to protect the screen - you can change all your settings in the EVF (ISO is missing from the A450/A500/A550; don't know if it came back in the A560/A580) - you can use the EVF in bright sunlight - you can playback pictures in the EVF (useful for chimping in low light conditions and places where you don't want the LCD to be glaring) - you don't get the ghosting from the side LEDs in the viewfinder that the A450/A500/A550 suffered from (I don't know if they've fixed this on the A560/A580) - A55V has built-in GPS unit - A33/A55 has much bigger viewfinder - A33/A55 always has phase detect AF in Live View; A560/A580 has phase detect AF in Quick AF LV, and contrast detect AF in main-sensor-based Focus Check LV (since CDAF is introduced, they cannot call it MF Check LV anymore.) - you don't get inconsistent WB from MF Check LV compared to Quick AF LV (my experience on the A550)
Cons of A33/A55 versus A560/A580: - EVF exhibits RGB tearing in bright contrasty light - weaker battery life - 10 FPS mode shows last picture taken, not live feed - smaller - does not support battery grip - supposedly less light and thus more sensor amplification (have to wait for DxO to get the official numbers) - the shutter has to go down first and then open and then go down again and then open again (like the NEX-3 and NEX-5, or the A550 in MF Check LV) - mirror absolutely must not be touched as there is no way to clean it - if there is any backfocus you cannot tune it as easily as you can on a body where the AF unit is on the bottom of the camera - in 10 FPS mode, the aperture is fixed to as close as F3.5 as possible (meaning a F1.4 lens will shoot at F3.5, and a F5.6 lens will shoot at F5.6) - in video with AF, the aperture is fixed to as close as F3.5 as possible (meaning for videos in low light needing F1.4, you should switch to MF to allow the aperture to be at F1.4) - EVF means you cannot manually focus the lens or check framing when the camera is off
Both the A33/A55 and A560/A580 have magnified view when focusing.  i wonder if the next rumored firmware will remove some of these cons away Added on September 12, 2010, 10:55 pmQUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Sep 12 2010, 10:44 PM) mirror absolutely must not be touched as there is no way to clean it-for real? theres absolutely NO way?  according to imaging-resources: The Sony A55 and A33 provide a cleaning mode allowing the sensor to be accessed, and the pellicle mirror itself can be manually raised to facilitate this, but Sony's documentation provides no advice on cleaning the pellicle mirror itself, simply noting that the surface of the mirror shouldn't be touched.This post has been edited by evilhomura89: Sep 12 2010, 10:55 PM
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