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zstan
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 Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(gooni3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:03 PM) ya experience i think everyone will eventually attain nirvana.. takes time.. that part is crucial the middle path.. i din mention earlier cuz too long.. haha.. in his life.. he practice eccentric means too much till he faint by the river when bathing.. then a boy saved him and gave him food.. then he saw the harp or something.. pull the strings too tight it will not make a good sound.. and too loose it doesn't make sound.. when just nice.. it makes perfect harmony sound of every elements.. i don recall the exact words but something like that.. hence the middle path was born.. its a girl name Sujatha who saved him and served him honey milk with rice IINM... its not 'born'..it was there the whole time. |
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Misteri2010
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Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:00 PM) Damn, not even boddhisvattas count as achieving nirvana. Long path ahead. 
Added on August 20, 2010, 5:01 pmThat's because of the humans that misuses the law in the name of religion. No need example la. why not even boddhisvattas count as achieving nirvana? I think if u guy never really understand about buddha better dun talk about buddha...u are trying to spoil the religion |
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gooni3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM
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no unker..
bodhisattvas are not in nirvana stage cuz they choose to have compassion and help ppl.. nirvana u do not have any emotions already
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 20 2010, 05:04 PM) what u mean they haven achieve?  they are no longer in the samsara cycle la. Boddhisvattas haven't attain the ultimate enlightenment yet what. Cannot go nirvana la.
Added on August 20, 2010, 5:07 pmQUOTE(Misteri2010 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM) why not even boddhisvattas count as achieving nirvana? I think if u guy never really understand about buddha better dun talk about buddha...u are trying to spoil the religion Constructive criticism and discussion is vital to understand more. =) QUOTE(gooni3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM) no unker.. bodhisattvas are not in nirvana stage cuz they choose to have compassion and help ppl.. nirvana u do not have any emotions already Yeap. This post has been edited by eXPeri3nc3: Aug 20 2010, 05:07 PM |
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zstan
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Aug 20 2010, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM) Boddhisvattas haven't attain the ultimate enlightenment yet what. Cannot go nirvana la. no... they CHOOSE not to get enlightened... hmm. |
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:09 PM
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Also, that's why Avalokitesvara still remains a bodhisvatta as he vouched not to be enlightened until everyone else does.
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Gouki
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Aug 20 2010, 05:09 PM
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Live Life Cool
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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 20 2010, 04:43 PM) lol. learning buddhism won tie u down also. nvm. we worship new sony DSLRs and lenses and beautiful cars  not me o?  i tot u find peace when u get 5 rampages in a game?  QFT means?  speaking of cars~ i only worship one~ the GTR~ R34 specifically~ during my college times~ i go to my frens house to do studies and projects~ he hung a big poster of R34 GTR on his room wall~ everytime i solve a question on the paper i will look back on the R34 poster as an encouragement~ |
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 20 2010, 05:08 PM) no... they CHOOSE not to get enlightened... hmm. Either way, only Buddha-hood is considered achieving Nirvana. CMIIW. |
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zstan
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Aug 20 2010, 05:10 PM
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gooni3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:11 PM
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yes i did mentioned that they choose not to be..
but if u choose not to be one.. u are not one until u are one
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zstan
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Aug 20 2010, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:10 PM) Either way, only Buddha-hood is considered achieving Nirvana. CMIIW. nope... achieving arahant-hood is also achieving nirvana. |
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Misteri2010
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Aug 20 2010, 05:11 PM
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PPl that can achieve Nirvana are people that really deep to the Buddha...
Yes, There are ppl that really can achieve Nirvana...
All Bodhisattva have went thru the Nirvana only they can be Bodhisattva
Please...please
Please dont bring wrong though to people about Buddha...It is not easy for a person to really understand the entire buddha..If u really can understand, u will be sad about lot of thing and u will do something for them...
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zstan
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Aug 20 2010, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(Misteri2010 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:11 PM) PPl that can achieve Nirvana are people that really deep to the Buddha... Yes, There are ppl that really can achieve Nirvana... All Bodhisattva have went thru the Nirvana only they can be Bodhisattva Please...please Please dont bring wrong though to people about Buddha...It is not easy for a person to really understand the entire buddha..If u really can understand, u will be sad about lot of thing and u will do something for them... what's wrong with discussions? nobody is claiming their answers are of absolute accuracy. if i am wrong, i am open to corrections, just prove me wrong. my cup is just half full. |
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 20 2010, 05:11 PM) nope... achieving arahant-hood is also achieving nirvana. Yes, my bad. I was pointing out to the line of Buddhism. |
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soon2
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Aug 20 2010, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Misteri2010 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM) why not even boddhisvattas count as achieving nirvana? I think if u guy never really understand about buddha better dun talk about buddha...u are trying to spoil the religion QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:06 PM) Boddhisvattas haven't attain the ultimate enlightenment yet what. Cannot go nirvana la.
Added on August 20, 2010, 5:07 pmConstructive criticism and discussion is vital to understand more. =) Yeap. sometimes u get explanation and sometimes u get stick for asking |
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gooni3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:17 PM
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i think the confusion is here.. to become arahant / bodhisattva u need to go true enlightenment.. which to some ppl also know as nirvana..
i believe the nirvana me and experience is referring to is the ultimate stage.. aka Buddha-hood.. which I think that there no going back
This post has been edited by gooni3: Aug 20 2010, 05:18 PM
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Misteri2010
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Aug 20 2010, 05:18 PM
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Bodhisattvas = (佛教用语)菩萨
nirvana= 涅槃
u know what is "Pu Sha" ..Pu sha is god
Nirvana is "Nie Pang".. Nie pang is those ppl like monk that past away...we called it as nie pang.. instead of say he die we say he nie pang le...
God been thru human life before and they did achieve Nirvana "past away" only they become Bodhisattvas
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(Misteri2010 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:11 PM) PPl that can achieve Nirvana are people that really deep to the Buddha... Yes, There are ppl that really can achieve Nirvana... All Bodhisattva have went thru the Nirvana only they can be Bodhisattva Please...please Please dont bring wrong though to people about Buddha...It is not easy for a person to really understand the entire buddha..If u really can understand, u will be sad about lot of thing and u will do something for them... Erm, it's thought. Well we can't control how they perceive someone right? It's up to them to be the judge. As long as we're not defiling Buddha then it's fine QUOTE(soon2 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:16 PM) sometimes u get explanation and sometimes u get stick for asking Lol it happens I guess. |
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zstan
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Aug 20 2010, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(gooni3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:17 PM) i think the confusion is here.. to become arahant / bodhisattva u need to go true enlightenment.. which to some ppl also know as nirvana.. i believe the nirvana me and experience is referring to is the ultimate stage.. aka Buddha-hood.. which I think is irreversible i think u meant pari-nibbana, not Buddha-hood. |
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gooni3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:19 PM
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misteri i believe the term is enlightenment
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