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 PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V11, version eleven

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post Oct 14 2010, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 14 2010, 10:41 AM)
d) Myvi kira OK lo, Viva more worst, unbearable. tongue.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 10:44 am

Auto BLM FC is ok if you drive like slow ant style, when green light, gently push the pedal , let the gear auto shift at its normal range (2.5k), else if u want accelerate like manual, ur FC will suffer like hell.


Added on October 14, 2010, 10:47 am

Because auto BLM using old tech gearbox, clutch slip is crucial, u rev 3k, but your clutch slip cancel the extra torque at that speed, thats why ur car roaring but no speed and no power felt.
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He's using auto, so I don't think it's clutch slip. It's probably a combination of Drive by Wire delay + Torque Converter power loss.
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post Oct 14 2010, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 14 2010, 11:25 AM)
He's using auto, so I don't think it's clutch slip. It's probably a combination of Drive by Wire delay + Torque Converter power loss.
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I know he is driving Auto.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/t...-converter4.htm

Maybe the terms is wrong, but there are some sort of 'clutch' slippage in Auto car if there is no clucth lockup.

Actually the main cause is the transmission itself, drive by wire delay manual also got

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:01 PM

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ya, there is a clucth (torque convertor) in auto transmission and yes becos of the design, it has so much slip...= transmission loss

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:05 PM

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For auto BLM, engine from Proton+Lotus, gearbox from MMC, is it fully compatible? i think the auto user know very well.

In my opinion they should design its own gearbox. But again, this is low cost sedan, maybe will cost up if own design.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 14 2010, 01:05 PM)
For auto BLM, engine from Proton+Lotus, gearbox from MMC, is it fully compatible? i think the auto user know very well.

In my opinion they should design its own gearbox. But again, this is low cost sedan, maybe will cost up if own design.
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an auto always an auto regardless its from MMC or not, but actually the gearbox is suitable or good enough for 1.6L..

i wonder its the same gearbox/ratio used in persona and gen2 auto

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Oct 14 2010, 01:09 PM)
an auto always and an auto regardless its from MMC or not, but actually the gearbox is suitable or good enough for 1.6L..
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Ya, i mean the gearbox itself is good, as you said, at least good for 1.6L, but i do think it need to consider other factors such as engine power and the car weight. hmm.gif

Honestly even my manual BLM with short gear ratio, i still feel is underpower, so auto no need to say anymore.

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post Oct 14 2010, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 14 2010, 01:21 PM)
Ya, i mean the gearbox itself is good, as you said, at least good for 1.6L,  but i do think it need to consider other factors such as engine power and the car weight. hmm.gif

Honestly even my manual BLM with short gear ratio, i still feel is underpower, so auto no need to say anymore.
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uprate the engine icon_idea.gif

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post Oct 14 2010, 04:04 PM

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is there anyway to remove those minor scratches on the paint? :/..
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QUOTE(alexleow81 @ Oct 13 2010, 11:26 PM)
My driver door when open got a sound nyek nyek already! Hmm....anybody facing this problem before?
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Try applying some lubricant on it ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(xshiro @ Oct 14 2010, 03:44 PM)
uprate the engine  icon_idea.gif
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Yeah, with a 1.6 CPS Engine!! icon_idea.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(rogrog @ Oct 14 2010, 04:04 PM)
is there anyway to remove those minor scratches on the paint? :/..
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I believe there are paint products selling in hypermarkets that can help repair the paint. Not sure what it's called.

Just follow the color code for the Saga, since Saga is very common.
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 14 2010, 04:42 PM)
Yeah, with a 1.6 CPS Engine!! icon_idea.gif tongue.gif
I believe there are paint products selling in hypermarkets that can help repair the paint. Not sure what it's called.

Just follow the color code for the Saga, since Saga is very common.
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If really change to 1.6 CPS, i will change my gearbox as well lo, i no need such huge torque just for 110km/h highway cruising.

It called 'touch up paint'. tongue.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 4:57 pm
QUOTE(alexleow81 @ Oct 13 2010, 11:26 PM)
My driver door when open got a sound nyek nyek already! Hmm....anybody facing this problem before?
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The joint run out of lubricant.

last time my car just few months adi sounded 'krak krak' when open/close. Normal for the car under hot sun everyday.

Just apply the lubricant, apply gel form one, dun use the normal liquid oil, it will wash away by rain.



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hello. where can i get saga blm's side mirror? and is it possible to buy for one side only? she's been looking around at proton and somehow they don't have any. thanks.
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QUOTE(maolenin @ Oct 14 2010, 05:29 PM)
hello. where can i get saga blm's side mirror? and is it possible to buy for one side only? she's been looking around at proton and somehow they don't have any. thanks.
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proton sparepart shop

http://www.protonparts.com.my/3_market_net...se.htm#selangor
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I just replace my IAFM last week. Its only rm258+ or something. Wow quite cheap. I was scared they were going to charge me rm600-rm1500+ for the item. I service outside so theres no warranty for it. BTW i hate those Proton basher that says proton milo tin, last 2 mth my saga hantam another saga very hi speed but the body is strong and the front bonet kemek around 1/3, but the cabin, my windscreen everything fine, nothing happened to me not even a songle scratch. For the ppl that say proton having zinc roof when rain pours in, thats another b*llsh*t as even my mazda3 and my fren lancer have dat zinc roof sound when rains pours in.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 14 2010, 08:15 PM)
I just replace my IAFM last week. Its only rm258+ or something. Wow quite cheap. I was scared they were going to charge me rm600-rm1500+ for the item. I service outside so theres no warranty for it. BTW i hate those Proton basher that says proton milo tin, last 2 mth my saga hantam another saga very hi speed but the body is strong and the front bonet kemek around 1/3, but the cabin, my windscreen everything fine, nothing happened to me not even a songle scratch. For the ppl that say proton having zinc roof when rain pours in, thats another b*llsh*t as even my mazda3 and my fren lancer have dat zinc roof sound when rains pours in.
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How about the engine? No damage?

Good to hear the IAFM is so cheap, nothing to worry even no warranty.
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post Oct 14 2010, 09:13 PM

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engine no damage, didn't even reach the engine.


Added on October 14, 2010, 9:16 pmbtw the worksyopmen tells me dat the iafm used to be quite expensive, but since proton/eon recognize the iafm is a common problem among sagas so they have flood the spare part market wif it and it become much cheaper and the material better built.

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post Oct 14 2010, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 14 2010, 09:13 PM)
engine no damage, didn't even reach the engine.
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Maybe the collision force of milo tin vs milo tin is minimal, if milo tin vs stone then maybe another story. tongue.gif

You change IAFM at outside? hmm.gif

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authorized eon/proton service centre as well. at ttdi jaya shah alam. company name is baiduri auto, maybe u can try to google their address.
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Haha, no need, i stay at Johor, impossible to go there.

Anyway i assume the price from others authorized SC won't differ too much.
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Oct 14 2010, 04:18 PM)
Try applying some lubricant on it ? hmm.gif
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Will do, thanks for the advice! biggrin.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 11:32 pm
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Oct 14 2010, 04:55 PM)
If really change to 1.6 CPS, i will change my gearbox as well lo, i no need such huge torque just for 110km/h highway cruising.

It called 'touch up paint'. tongue.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 4:57 pm

The joint run out of lubricant.

last time my car just few months adi sounded 'krak krak' when open/close. Normal for the car under hot sun everyday.

Just apply the lubricant, apply gel form one, dun use the normal liquid oil, it will wash away by rain.
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Thanks mate! I will give it a try! biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by alexleow81: Oct 14 2010, 11:32 PM

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