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post Aug 14 2010, 10:23 PM

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Thought I&P was the only developer there, any idea what's the selling price?
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:16 AM

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yes.. would like the range of the price.
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:58 AM

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Anyone targeting houses here? This week got launching if I'm not mistaken....
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post Aug 16 2010, 12:07 PM

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DATE 21 - 22 August 2010

TIME 10am to 6pm

VENUE NAZA TTDI SDN BHD (13978-T)
NO.1, JALAN MARATHON 13/31, SEKSYEN 13 40100 SHAH ALAM, SELANGOR D. E. MALAYSIA


Please visit www.ttdialamimpian.com
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03-51015600 1-300-88-TTDI

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post Aug 16 2010, 01:23 PM

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Price starting from 400k....
There are 5 types and about 500 units going to launch this weekend.
They said the houses are completed already and waiting for CF...
Completed....feel weird....

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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Aug 16 2010, 01:23 PM)
Price starting from 400k....
There are 5 types and about 500 units going to launch this weekend.
They said the houses are completed already and waiting for CF...
Completed....feel weird....
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maybe developer use concept .."Bina & Jual" ...
good also ... house already completed, no waiting & no pay interest only for developing stage
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post Aug 16 2010, 04:24 PM

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Good location? I'm not too sure about it. It seems very far from the city center KL. Nearest is to Subang, Shah Alam, and then Klang.
Selling point would be its built-then-sell.

Kemuning Utama/Kota Kemuning is just about 3km away from Alam Impian via LKSA highway. pricing around 400k+ for 22x75ft terraces.

What do you guys think about the development around these Shah Alam areas? Seems like a lot of PJ younger generations moving there.
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post Aug 16 2010, 07:08 PM

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Just called TTDI today and price told to me were as follows:

20' x 70' - From 430K
22' x 70' - From 452K
24' x 70' - From 510K
22' x 75' - From 497K
24' x 75' - From 553K

It is a build and sell concept. And unit available for this launch is just around 130+. It's been ready for at least the last 3 months, the roadworks took up much of the delay.

It was 100K above their indicative price given few months ago. Was really interested until i couldn't wait anymore and snapped up one of the last house in I&P's Canting 3 (22' x 80') in the same development area. Thank god i didn't wait, the design is surely lacking compared to I&P's but priced higher, further inside the Alam Impian township too!

And no offence to ppl who complain the these areas are too far from KL etc etc etc...Shah Alam is of course not OUG or Cheras, but it has got it's pull in offering a quiet and peaceful place for ppl to go home and enjoy a good rest. Take this from a Chinese who have stayed in Shah Alam for a good 26 years.

Personally, i think Alam Impian has got better access compared to Kota Kemuning or Setia Alam. From either Federal or Kesas, it's less than 5 mins via LKSA. For KK ur stuck with Kesas and Setia Alam, NKVE. And plus, just take a drive into Alam Impian to see how nice they have made the place up! Big open spaces with playgrounds, lakes, sculptures etc etc.

And just in case ur wondering, no, i'm not a house salesman!

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post Aug 17 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(wlm @ Aug 16 2010, 07:08 PM)
Just called TTDI today and price told to me were as follows:

20' x 70' - From 430K
22' x 70' - From 452K
24' x 70' - From 510K
22' x 75' - From 497K
24' x 75' - From 553K

It is a build and sell concept. And unit available for this launch is just around 130+. It's been ready for at least the last 3 months, the roadworks took up much of the delay.

It was 100K above their indicative price given few months ago. Was really interested until i couldn't wait anymore and snapped up one of the last house in I&P's Canting 3 (22' x 80') in the same development area. Thank god i didn't wait, the design is surely lacking compared to I&P's but priced higher, further inside the Alam Impian township too!

And no offence to ppl who complain the these areas are too far from KL etc etc etc...Shah Alam is of course not OUG or Cheras, but it has got it's pull in offering a quiet and peaceful place for ppl to go home and enjoy a good rest. Take this from a Chinese who have stayed in Shah Alam for a good 26 years.

Personally, i think Alam Impian has got better access compared to Kota Kemuning or Setia Alam. From either Federal or Kesas, it's less than 5 mins via LKSA. For KK ur stuck with Kesas and Setia Alam, NKVE. And plus, just take a drive into Alam Impian to see how nice they have made the place up! Big open spaces with playgrounds, lakes, sculptures etc etc.

And just in case ur wondering, no, i'm not a house salesman!
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wlm, you already bought one in Canting? Are you chinese? If I'm not mistaken I&P and TTDI just nearby only, no? And mostly are occupied by bumiputera, right? I been I&P once, the design quite nice and they build a road that easily connecting to Federal Highway.

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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Aug 17 2010, 10:34 AM)
wlm, you already bought one in Canting? Are you chinese? If I'm not mistaken I&P and TTDI just nearby only, no? And mostly are occupied by bumiputera, right? I been I&P once, the design quite nice and they build a road that easily connecting to Federal Highway.
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Yeah, i'm a chinese and i bought one in Canting 3.

Dont know bout the full demographics but was told that they're quite balanced. Saw a few other Chinese buyers as well when i was at the sales office but really, it doesnt bother me la cos i grew up in a multiracial community so this is not really an issue.

I&P's housing is just nearby the entrance to AI but for TTDI, u have to go in a further km or 2 to get to it. Design wise i prefer I&P's more. TTDI go for the modern contemporary look while I&P is more classy. Finishing also looks better.

Even pricing is also more expensive for TTDI's new launch but i guess this will be matched by I&P in their next launch (possibly after Raya).

The only BIG and EXPENSIVE regret i have is not buying the Canting unit earlier during their first launch at 330K. Now i paid 500K for it cry.gif
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post Aug 17 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(wlm @ Aug 17 2010, 12:13 PM)
Yeah, i'm a chinese and i bought one in Canting 3.

Dont know bout the full demographics but was told that they're quite balanced. Saw a few other Chinese buyers as well when i was at the sales office but really, it doesnt bother me la cos i grew up in a multiracial community so this is not really an issue.

I&P's housing is just nearby the entrance to AI but for TTDI, u have to go in a further km or 2 to get to it. Design wise i prefer I&P's more. TTDI go for the modern contemporary look while I&P is more classy. Finishing also looks better.

Even pricing is also more expensive for TTDI's new launch but i guess this will be matched by I&P in their next launch (possibly after Raya).

The only BIG and EXPENSIVE regret i have is not buying the Canting unit earlier during their first launch at 330K. Now i paid 500K for it  cry.gif
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I see...
what bout comparing I&P to bandar botanic 2?
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post Aug 17 2010, 08:28 PM

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Ermm..dont know much bout BB2, only been around the earlier phase of Bandar Botanic but that area is also very much developed and laden with amenities, but even much further away to KL compared to Shah Alam
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Aug 16 2010, 11:58 AM)
Anyone targeting houses here? This week got launching if I'm not mistaken....
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I went to the launch just now...the queue is soo looong....the first person queued since Friday 6pm (launch on Saturday 10 am) ...so quite a number of buyers slept in front of the office.. i guess this is a very hot property...like i&p also...so if you have money..dont miss it rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Aug 21 2010, 04:21 PM)
I went to the launch just now...the queue is soo looong....the first person queued since Friday 6pm (launch on Saturday 10 am) ...so quite a number of buyers slept in front of the office.. i guess this is a very hot property...like i&p also...so if you have money..dont miss it  rclxms.gif
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Did anyone ..how many % already sold ? and Which type still available?
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QUOTE(Friend1 @ Aug 21 2010, 09:49 PM)
Did anyone ..how many % already sold ? and Which type still available?
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From my observation at around 1pm.... i would say 80% sold...of course this is just an estimate...units left are those facing quite directly to west (ppl don't want coz in the evening the living and masterbed will be very hot) ...and also those with numbers that Chinese dont like..if you dont mind the number..then its location is good...

Also left are those big corners that are more than 700k. Of course this is still cheap considering nowadays corner lot houses like this can easily fetch 800k in subsale (Note that these houses are completed 100%...like buying subsale). Furthermore if you are a bumi, you can get 7% disc. not available in subsale.

The only bad thing I would say about this project is the lacking of incentives..not free disbursement, MOT etc. vmad.gif


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QUOTE(Friend1 @ Aug 21 2010, 09:49 PM)
Did anyone ..how many % already sold ? and Which type still available?
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if i'm not mistaken only less than 17 units left...

btw.. i'm number 2 in the line.. tongue.gif.. number 1 bought 3 corner lots unit.. rclxms.gif

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dont think is wise location. the place is surrounded by malay/indian villages and there is "blocked" by toll... in n out need to pay rm1.20. unless u use jalan kebun but there is always jam n dangeruos.
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Wise or not, jammed or not, everywhere is BBB mode now.even house in Bdr Baru salak tinggi is almost 300k now. BLR is on the rise now, another bubble in the making.
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QUOTE(JackKor @ Aug 22 2010, 10:40 AM)
dont think is wise location. the place is surrounded by malay/indian villages and there is "blocked" by toll... in n out need to pay rm1.20. unless u use jalan kebun but there is always jam n dangeruos.
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setia eco park also got toll...look at how expensives the houses are...how sucessful it is

Actually for these kind of mid-level to high end developments, toll=highway..means no jam and less congestion to your house....also the toll only 60 cent..if this is a low cost house then toll is a big no-no

In fact location is its best selling point, smack middle between kesas and federal highway....pay 60cent and you can go straight to these highways...ya at the back got malay village...i'm sure years to come all those land will be developed...if you google earth..you can see that alam impian is one of the few remaining large freehold land near to kl.......large empty land like this allows developer to design a good housing development

Don't be scared of malay/indian villages. These villages actually do "provide" extra security compared to having a large empty land... biggrin.gif

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400k is slightly expansive..
may get more alternative choice
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alternative choice like where for below 400k?
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QUOTE(wlm @ Aug 22 2010, 08:00 PM)
alternative choice like where for below 400k?
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Hello, I have one lot type B in ttdi alam impian. Anybody interested...
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QUOTE(bainadia @ Aug 23 2010, 03:27 AM)
Hello, I have one lot type B in ttdi alam impian. Anybody interested...
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Hi,

What is your unit lot number and how much u r selling ?


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QUOTE(wlm @ Aug 22 2010, 08:00 PM)
alternative choice like where for below 400k?
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Ya I agree please tell where can I get a less than 400k klang valley house that has the followings:

1. strategic location (in between kesas and federal highway)
2. easy entry and exit
3. gated (WITH ANTICLIMB fencing) and guarded
4. Freehold
5. completed (no risk of abandon project)
6. Early phase project (more phases to be launched later..meaning faster appreciation..for comparison I&P alam impian houses has been launched at +40k for every new launch..around 4 months between launches)
7. new house
8. Landed

Do share as I want to invest in that area also... I am not being sarcastic...I really want to know if there is such development.....sharing is caring! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Aug 23 2010, 05:34 AM)
Hi,

What is your unit lot number and how much u r selling ?


Added on August 23, 2010, 1:49 pm

Ya I agree please tell where can I get a less than 400k klang valley house that has the followings:

1. strategic location (in between kesas and federal highway)
2. easy entry and exit
3. gated (WITH ANTICLIMB fencing) and guarded
4. Freehold
5. completed (no risk of abandon project)
6. Early phase project (more phases to be launched later..meaning faster appreciation..for comparison I&P alam impian houses has been launched at +40k for every new launch..around 4 months between launches)
7. new house
8. Landed

Do share as I want  to invest in that area also... I am not being sarcastic...I really want to know if there is such development.....sharing is caring!  biggrin.gif
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which lot u buy?
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post Aug 23 2010, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Aug 23 2010, 04:07 PM)
which lot u buy?
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you? smile.gif
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post Aug 23 2010, 08:06 PM

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Mostly chinese or malay in the queue?
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i've been to the site but have not been to the show house.the reason is because when i called the developer i was shocked to hear the price. However that is the price to pay for a completed unit. no risk being abandoned. smile.gif

true what wlm says, shd have bought the canting earlier as the price now is way more expensive than the previous phase

i bought canting 3 as well, due to complete in 2 yers time smile.gif

anyone know how many units left for ttdi alam impian? ppl buy for own stay or investment?
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Aug 23 2010, 08:06 PM)
Mostly chinese or malay in the queue?
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May I know why this matters to you ? I really hope one day people will see past the skin colours, religons and customs.... not that I'm implying you dont tongue.gif

From the queue I think malay and chinese should be the same..or chinese a bit more...we need more indians..and a bit of expats..then it'll be very nice rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Aug 23 2010, 11:08 PM)
May I know why this matters to you ?  I really hope one day people will see past the skin colours, religons and customs.... not that I'm implying you dont  tongue.gif

From the queue I think malay and chinese should be the same..or chinese a bit more...we need more indians..and a bit of expats..then it'll be  very nice  rclxms.gif
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Hope you don't get me wrong....
I just want to know the propeties buyer nowaday. Previously I only saw chinese ppl in queue (of course don't count those foreigner)...may be nowaday is different, bumipuetra will join the game...if this is the case property price definetely will increase crazily....
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Aug 24 2010, 12:20 AM)
Hope you don't get me wrong....
I just want to know the propeties buyer nowaday. Previously I only saw chinese ppl in queue (of course don't count those foreigner)...may be nowaday is different, bumipuetra will join the game...if this is the case property price definetely will increase crazily....
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Ya I think nowadays more bumis realize the importance of having land in prime areas, no point having such a big parcel of land if it is in the middle of nowhere....of coz this needs to be coupled with increased financial strength....hopefully the price will not increase to the level that ordinary ppl cant afford a home in klang valley...too much profit for the selected few also not good for the general public nod.gif
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Aug 23 2010, 05:55 PM)
you?  smile.gif
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mine is type D facing west .. not much choice for that type.. huhu.. smile.gif.. u are not planning to stay ?
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have any idea ppl buy ttdi AI for personal stay or investment?
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Aug 23 2010, 05:34 AM)
Hi,

What is your unit lot number and how much u r selling ?


Added on August 23, 2010, 1:49 pm

Ya I agree please tell where can I get a less than 400k klang valley house that has the followings:

1. strategic location (in between kesas and federal highway)
2. easy entry and exit
3. gated (WITH ANTICLIMB fencing) and guarded
4. Freehold
5. completed (no risk of abandon project)
6. Early phase project (more phases to be launched later..meaning faster appreciation..for comparison I&P alam impian houses has been launched at +40k for every new launch..around 4 months between launches)
7. new house
8. Landed

Do share as I want  to invest in that area also... I am not being sarcastic...I really want to know if there is such development.....sharing is caring!  biggrin.gif
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Below 400k still got in Bukit Tinggi 3 or Bandar Botanic...


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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Aug 24 2010, 09:56 AM)
mine is type D facing west .. not much choice for that type.. huhu.. smile.gif.. u are not planning to stay ?
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Facing south or north still got?


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have any idea ppl buy ttdi AI for personal stay or investment?
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emm, landed normally for stay kua~~
if price go up up up then consider as investment lo~~unpredictable.

investment should go for Condo in the prime area......

This post has been edited by riskbreaker: Aug 24 2010, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Aug 24 2010, 09:56 AM)
mine is type D facing west .. not much choice for that type.. huhu.. smile.gif.. u are not planning to stay ?
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mine type C, not sure yet want to stay or keep it first as its quite far from my working place (but near wifey's work place haha)...you are the guy who bought symphony hills unit also right..very rich la u! biggrin.gif

i think facing west is ok...sometimes evening heat is just overrated ehehe ...proper roof heat insulation should do the trick


Added on August 24, 2010, 12:24 pm
QUOTE(riskbreaker @ Aug 24 2010, 12:01 PM)
Below 400k still got in Bukit Tinggi 3 or Bandar Botanic...
bukit tinggi and bandar botanic (or any development after the kesas last toll, if you are from kl) .. in terms of location still quite far from ppl perspective (bandar puteri by ioi is nearer),

bukit tinggi 3 is bandar parklands right? As far as I know it is not gated, I also doubt it is guarded since everytime I go there there is no guard..I might be wrong on this.....and you have to face jams be it you are to use kesas directly or johan setia first when going to kl


bandar botanic/bukit tinggi 1 and 2 slightly better but still cannot match naza ttdi and I&P alam impian... of coz the developer knows this, hence the higher price......actually the price different is significant....just compare bayuemas by I&P (besides bukit tinggi 3, and better location too!) with alam impian by 1&P...same developer but the latter commands double the price of the first ..

Any other suggestion? thanks!

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QUOTE(riskbreaker @ Aug 24 2010, 12:01 PM)
Below 400k still got in Bukit Tinggi 3 or Bandar Botanic...


Added on August 24, 2010, 12:02 pm

Facing south or north still got?


Added on August 24, 2010, 12:04 pm

emm, landed normally for stay kua~~
if price go up up up then consider as investment lo~~unpredictable.

investment should go for Condo in the prime area......
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not sure today still got or not... but facing north or south is type A / type B / type E ....


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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Aug 24 2010, 12:11 PM)
mine type C, not sure yet want to stay or keep it first as its quite far from my working place (but near wifey's work place haha)...you are the guy who bought symphony hills unit also right..very rich la u!  biggrin.gif

i think facing west is ok...sometimes evening heat is just overrated ehehe ...proper roof heat insulation should do the trick

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no la, where got. that one is the first guy in the queue. he also bought 3 corner lot.

hey, got any tips to get rid of the evening heat? sweat.gif haha... i'm thinking to install the roof ventilation? how is the maintenance and does it really works??

advice from u guys will be appreciated notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

y2k, are u working at cyber ? hehe

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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Aug 25 2010, 07:48 AM)
not sure today still got or not... but facing north or south is type A / type B / type E ....


Added on August 25, 2010, 7:58 am

no la, where got. that one is the first guy in the queue. he also bought 3 corner lot.

hey, got any tips to get rid of the evening heat?  sweat.gif haha... i'm thinking to install the roof ventilation? how is the maintenance and does it really works??

advice from u guys will be appreciated  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

y2k, are u working at cyber ? hehe
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yeay manage to get 1 unit at this TTDI Alam Impian. and got this after the Launch (dont have to queue etc tongue.gif ).. because the salesmen call me and informed that their director release the unit. i not really understand, but lucky me to get one. really love the unit~ planned for own stay. mine is type A

and manage to get loan from Bank Islam. FMC with BFR - 2.0. which i think equivalent to BFR - 2.4 in non-FMC. (my own judgement tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(MsApprentice @ Aug 16 2010, 01:23 PM)
Completed....feel weird....
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I feel weird too... unsure.gif

The design is a bit... hmm.gif


Added on November 2, 2010, 5:13 pm
QUOTE(wlm @ Aug 17 2010, 12:13 PM)
The only BIG and EXPENSIVE regret i have is not buying the Canting unit earlier during their first launch at 330K. Now i paid 500K for it  cry.gif
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WOW... such a big difference? What's the selling point?



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Naza TTDI Alam Impian thumbup.gif

I was told that the developer for Summerglades Cyberjaya is so impressed with the workmanship of TTDI Alam Impian that they employ the same contractor for Summerglades...

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 2 2010, 06:54 PM)
Naza TTDI Alam Impian  thumbup.gif

I was told that the developer for Summerglades Cyberjaya is so impressed with the workmanship of TTDI Alam Impian that they employ the same contractor for Summerglades...
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waa really?.. to be honest, i also fall in love at the first sight with the design. very cool n modern. gated n guarded some more.

y2kfirewalker, u plan to install alarm or grill, or both?.. kinda think that the grill will jeopardize the beauty. huhu
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waa really?.. to be honest, i also fall in love at the first sight with the design. very cool n modern. gated n guarded some more.

y2kfirewalker, u plan to install alarm or grill, or both?.. kinda think that the grill will jeopardize the beauty. huhu
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Hi eng,

I plan to install alarm, cctv and grill tongue.gif , ....

Dun worry, if designed properly, I believe the grill will not affect the design of the house ....

You bought intermediate or corner? Corner houses need more security...not only that they have more points of entry, ppl in corner houses are perceived to be richer than intermediate ones....perceived only..true or not depends ehehe laugh.gif

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Hi eng,

I plan to install alarm, cctv and grill  tongue.gif  , ....

Dun worry, if designed properly, I believe the grill will not affect the design of the house ....

You bought intermediate or corner? Corner houses need more security...not only that they have more points of entry, ppl in corner houses are perceived to be richer than intermediate ones....perceived only..true or not depends ehehe  laugh.gif
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mine is intermediate only. less entry point. thinking of putting alarm only. hehe.. but yeah, depend on the grill design. if not disturb the modern looking, no harm in putting grill. any website u can recommend to view this kind of grill?..


how about the CF ya. heard from the salesman that the CF is by this December. not sure how true is that. nonetheless, still waiting for the loan thingy hehe tongue.gif
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u guys mind to share some photos? The website dun show much. Thanks
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mine is intermediate only. less entry point. thinking of putting alarm only. hehe.. but yeah, depend on the grill design. if not disturb the modern looking, no harm in putting grill. any website u can recommend to view this kind of grill?..
how about the CF ya. heard from the salesman that the CF is by this December. not sure how true is that. nonetheless, still waiting for the loan thingy hehe tongue.gif
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I heard December also..

I haven't surveyed the grill design yet..that one is wifey's territory..but will inform you after I have some info on it...

Regarding loan..what is the best offer you get? bfr-2 +free legal from Bank Islam is it? Want me to help you get better rates than that? Also Bank Islam loans are based on BBA concept, not musyarakah mutanaqisah (MM). MM is much better.

For BBA loans, if you settled before the end of your tenure, the banks can actually ask you to pay the whole figure. For example, you take loan amounting to 430k..and is supposed to pay within 30 years. Let say u refinance or want to sell or just want to pay full after 10 years only... they can charge you the price as if you have taken the loan for 30 years. THE GOOD NEWS IS usually banks will give you rebate to reduce the price, BUT it is solely up to the bank (bank negara has issued some instructions regarding this, forcing the bank to confirm to pay the rebates but I'm not so sure enforced or not yet) and as far as I know the rebates are relatively small.

Try google BBA vs. Musyarakah Mutanaqisah. Also try google BBA loan court cases. Quite a number of people have taken their banks to the court due to these BBA loans.

The best loans are Islamic loans based on MM, as the amount you have to pay is very similar to conventional loan for early settlement before end of tenure WITH the added advantage of rate capping. Best of both worlds. Whether you are Muslim or not, MM Islamic loan is the way to go IMHO rclxms.gif


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u guys mind to share some photos? The website dun show much. Thanks
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Furry...just go to the site to take a look...trust me it's worth it....

of course I'm biased as I am one of the buyer there....

I may not be an expert in real estate but I sincerely believe TTDI Alam Impian is one of the best areas to invest for capital appreciation ...

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Furry...just go to the site to take a look...trust me it's worth it....

of course I'm biased as I am one of the buyer there....

I may not be an expert in real estate but I sincerely believe TTDI Alam Impian is one of the best areas to invest for capital appreciation ...
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hi y2k...

If i said anything offensive, please dun take it personally nod.gif

I have visited the site. I went in from federal highway passing section 15, 25 and finally into the RM 0.60 toll.

The semi-D of Alam Impian (I&P) looks nice (looking at the backyard). Huge toll plaza, not bad.

It was quite a distance before reaching TTDI Alam Impian. i feel it's in the middle of nowhere. I have a few questions:

1) How long will it take to be developed?

2) Why I&P and TTDI using the same name "Alam Impian"?

3) Do these 2 developer have any shared development plan to bring up this "township"?

4) What will be available inside this township?

5) What capital appreciation are you expecting? Selling price from RM500k, I am not sure how much DSL at this area can go... hmm.gif

I have also visited Canting, Nukilan, Tinta around I&P areas. Nice also. Wide road, underground cables & drain, spacious car porch etc. But I&P is not gated and guarded hmm.gif
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is that any unit still available from the developer?
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hi y2k...

If i said anything offensive, please dun take it personally nod.gif

I have visited the site. I went in from federal highway passing section 15, 25 and finally into the RM 0.60 toll.

The semi-D of Alam Impian (I&P) looks nice (looking at the backyard). Huge toll plaza, not bad.

It was quite a distance before reaching TTDI Alam Impian. i feel it's in the middle of nowhere. I have a few questions:

1) How long will it take to be developed?

2) Why I&P and TTDI using the same name "Alam Impian"?

3) Do these 2 developer have any shared development plan to bring up this "township"?

4) What will be available inside this township?

5) What capital appreciation are you expecting? Selling price from RM500k, I am not sure how much DSL at this area can go... hmm.gif

I have also visited Canting, Nukilan, Tinta around I&P areas. Nice also. Wide road, underground cables & drain, spacious car porch etc. But I&P is not gated and guarded hmm.gif
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Hi Furry..none taken... if I'm the sensitive type..how to handle all my under/postgraduate students with all kind of antics... tongue.gif

Hmm...I cant begin to act as I know the answers..but here goes...

Actually it is not in the middle of nowhere..it is smack in the middle of kesas and federal highway...it's just that the land is so huge..it gives you the illusion like it is in the middle of jungle...try google earth or wikimapia to see the aerial view

1) I'm hoping in 5-10 years time for it to have a mosque, school and good commercial activity (all these are under the town planning)...

2) Maybe because the area itself is known as Alam Impian ?

3) I believe so as a mosque will be in the I&P part, a school in TTDI part...as example

4) terrace, semi-d, bunglow, condo, mosque, school, commercial buildings ... these are what I can recall from the masterplan...

5) I hope capital appreciation of 100% in 5 to 10 years time...

few years ago..300k is a norm for terrace...now 500k ..in near future maybe 800k? What you think is expensive now may be cheap in the future...

like char keow teow also la..last time rm 2 now rm 5 biggrin.gif

ya I&P Alam Impian also very nice..they are using clay bricks...better than TTDI using sand bricks...price also almost the same, location nearer to highway compared to TTDI...however I chosed TTDI due to G&G and the modern design, plus the better layout/masterplan (most house circling parks) and for current phase..its completed!..no risk of abandonment.....pay house under contruction price but get completed house

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 3 2010, 02:38 PM)

5) I hope capital appreciation of 100% in 5 to 10 years time...

few years ago..300k is a norm for terrace...now 500k ..in near future maybe 800k? What you think is expensive now may be cheap in the future...

ya I&P Alam Impian also very nice..they are using clay bricks...better than TTDI using sand bricks...price also almost the same, location nearer to highway compared to TTDI...however I chosed TTDI due to G&G and the modern design, plus the better layout/masterplan..
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100% is 1 million! rclxub.gif seriously???

I'm a bit uncomfortable with the price range... scary how RM300k DSL hitting RM500k in 3 years time... i'm just a normal salaryman... notworthy.gif
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100% is 1 million! rclxub.gif seriously???

I'm a bit uncomfortable with the price range... scary how RM300k DSL hitting RM500k in 3 years time... i'm just a normal salaryman... notworthy.gif
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aiyaa.. i also salaryman la....

USJ heights DSL houses are 1M+ already right?


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is that any unit still available from the developer?
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Last time I checked (last month just busybody to know the take up rate)...still left 1 corner lot unit 770k++ and one type B house 450k++ ..facing west (ppl scared of evening sun) +number not nice..



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OK... Will check the area again... thanks.
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I heard December also..

I haven't surveyed the grill design yet..that one is wifey's territory..but will inform you after I have some info on it...

Regarding loan..what is the best offer you get? bfr-2 +free legal from Bank Islam is it? Want me to help you get better rates than that? Also Bank Islam loans are based on BBA concept, not musyarakah mutanaqisah (MM). MM is much better.

For BBA loans, if you settled before the end of your tenure, the banks can actually ask you to pay the whole figure. For example, you take loan amounting to 430k..and is supposed to pay within 30 years. Let say u refinance or want to sell or just want to pay full after 10 years only... they can charge you the price as if you have taken the loan for 30 years.  THE GOOD NEWS IS usually banks will give you rebate to reduce the price, BUT it is solely up to the bank (bank negara has issued some instructions regarding this, forcing the bank to confirm to pay the rebates but I'm not so sure enforced or not yet) and as far as I know the rebates are relatively small.

Try google BBA vs. Musyarakah Mutanaqisah. Also try google BBA loan court cases.  Quite a number of people have taken their banks to the court due to these BBA loans.

The best loans are Islamic loans based on MM, as the amount you have to pay is very similar to conventional loan for early settlement before end of tenure WITH the added advantage of rate capping. Best of both worlds.  Whether you are Muslim or not, MM Islamic loan is the way to go IMHO rclxms.gif


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Furry...just go to the site to take a look...trust me it's worth it....

of course I'm biased as I am one of the buyer there....

I may not be an expert in real estate but I sincerely believe TTDI Alam Impian is one of the best areas to invest for capital appreciation ...
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bro, what is the rate that u getting? and from which bank.

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aiyaa.. i also salaryman la....

USJ heights DSL houses are 1M+ already right?


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Last time I checked (last month just busybody to know the take up rate)...still left 1 corner lot unit 770k++ and one type B house 450k++ ..facing west (ppl scared of evening sun) +number not nice..
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Type B going for 450k? That's a good price but as you mentioned it must have some 'feng-shui' issues for it not be snapped up yet... nod.gif
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Anything subjected to western evening sun is never a good choice.
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bro, what is the rate that u getting? and from which bank.
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So far among the best offers I got are

bfr-2.35 + free legal (MM concept)
bfr-2.4 whole tenure (BBA concept)

but these might be special rates after countless negotiations ...but since u mentioned you are planning to take bfr-2.0 + legal..i think my agents should be able to offer better than that..... subject to financial strength and credit records...thumbup.gif


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Type B going for 450k? That's a good price but as you mentioned it must have some 'feng-shui' issues for it not be snapped up yet... nod.gif
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Unless they increased the prices....the starting price for each type (in August) should be as below

20' x 70' - From 430K A
22' x 70' - From 452K B
24' x 70' - From 510K C
22' x 75' - From 497K D
24' x 75' - From 553K E

Ya...450k nowadays seems to be a good price...3, 4 years ago people will say these prices are absurd ...

Yeps..eventhough I am a muslim... I always go for houses perceived to have good fengshui (no toilet on top of front door, not facing T junction, no lamp post facing house, facing north, south, east, bla bla bla) since resale value is very important biggrin.gif .. However, I myself do not believe in fengshui


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Anything subjected to western evening sun is never a good choice.
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I think this is one of the main criteria for most people when booking a house....as I see from the take up pattern...houses facing west are the ones to be booked last....

Anyway...with good heat insulation and air flow management...the effect will be significantly less.....should be ok for own stay if you are willing to invest a bit...but no one can confirm they will staying in the same house forever ...even if they are planning to do so smile.gif


Added on November 4, 2010, 9:37 amActually to go to Alam Impian got 3 entry/exit points

1) LKSA highway (beside I&P tinta semi-ds) 60 cent
2) Jalan Kebun - no toll
3) Sungai Kandis (next to ttdi alam impian) - this one not many people know, of course no toll

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 4 2010, 09:03 AM)
So far among the best offers I got are

bfr-2.35 + free legal (MM concept)
bfr-2.4 whole tenure (BBA concept)

but these might be special rates after countless negotiations ...but since u mentioned you are planning to take bfr-2.0 + legal..i think my agents should be able to offer better than that..... subject to financial strength and credit records...thumbup.gif



Added on November 4, 2010, 9:37 amActually to go to Alam Impian got 3 entry/exit points

1) LKSA highway (beside I&P tinta semi-ds) 60 cent
2) Jalan Kebun - no toll
3) Sungai Kandis (next to ttdi alam impian) - this one not many people know, of course no toll
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owh, from my survey, Max bank can offer was only BFR - 2.3 (due to some restriction imposed by BNM). so are we really can negotiate until BFR -2.4?..

i was lucky. very lucky as my offer letter was ready yesterday. otherwise might not able to buy this house (70% loan only). hehe. all praise to the Almighty.


for Jalan Kebun & Jalan Sg Kandis, is there any proper road link to this 'jalan kampung'?.. because last time i went to the road behind TTDI Alam Impian, looks like there were no proper road there.
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 4 2010, 11:28 AM)
owh, from my survey, Max bank can offer was only BFR - 2.3 (due to some restriction imposed by BNM). so are we really can negotiate until BFR -2.4?..

i was lucky. very lucky as my offer letter was ready yesterday. otherwise might not able to buy this house (70% loan only). hehe. all praise to the Almighty.
for Jalan Kebun & Jalan Sg Kandis, is there any proper road link to this 'jalan kampung'?.. because last time i went to the road behind TTDI Alam Impian, looks like there were no proper road there.
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Can...everything is possible....

So this is your 3rd (or more) property? Congrats... How old are you? If 25 then you have my respect rclxms.gif

Jalan Kebun road is fine....Sungai Kandis...just a little part of the road is not tarmaced...
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 4 2010, 09:03 AM)
So far among the best offers I got are

bfr-2.35 + free legal (MM concept)
bfr-2.4 whole tenure (BBA concept)

but these might be special rates after countless negotiations ...but since u mentioned you are planning to take bfr-2.0 + legal..i think my agents should be able to offer better than that..... subject to financial strength and credit records...thumbup.gif


Added on November 4, 2010, 9:12 am

Unless they increased the prices....the starting price for each type (in August) should be as below

20' x 70' - From 430K A
22' x 70' - From 452K B
24' x 70' - From 510K C
22' x 75' - From 497K D
24' x 75' - From 553K E

Ya...450k nowadays seems to be a good price...3, 4 years ago people will say these prices are absurd ...

Yeps..eventhough I am a muslim... I always go for houses perceived to have good fengshui (no toilet on top of front door, not facing T junction, no lamp post facing house, facing north, south, east, bla bla bla) since resale value is very important biggrin.gif .. However, I myself do not believe in fengshui


Added on November 4, 2010, 9:18 am

I think this is one of the main criteria for most people when booking a house....as I see from the take up pattern...houses facing west are the ones to be booked last....

Anyway...with good heat insulation and air flow management...the effect will be significantly less.....should be ok for own stay if you are willing to invest a bit...but no one can confirm they will staying in the same house forever ...even if they are planning to do so smile.gif


Added on November 4, 2010, 9:37 amActually to go to Alam Impian got 3 entry/exit points

1) LKSA highway (beside I&P tinta semi-ds) 60 cent
2) Jalan Kebun - no toll
3) Sungai Kandis (next to ttdi alam impian) - this one not many people know, of course no toll
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I think nowadays...450K doesn't even meets the minimum price tag on landed properties. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 4 2010, 11:38 AM)
Can...everything is possible....

So this is your 3rd (or more) property? Congrats... How old are you? If 25 then you have my respect  rclxms.gif

Jalan Kebun road is fine....Sungai Kandis...just a little part of the road is not tarmaced...
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haha, was doing some property investment previously. so now getting one for my own stay. luckily one day ahead from the BNM announcement.

by the way, which unit number that u getting bro?.. must be neighbour in the near future neh. brows.gif
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 4 2010, 06:53 PM)
haha, was doing some property investment previously. so now getting one for my own stay. luckily one day ahead from the BNM announcement.

by the way, which unit number that u getting bro?.. must be neighbour in the near future neh.  brows.gif
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I also bought a corner lot in TTDI alam impian for staying. I am just wondering how many of us are actually going to stay there once we get CF. It's important in deciding when to move in.smile.gif

Any idea?
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 7 2010, 12:58 PM)
I also bought a corner lot in TTDI alam impian for staying. I am just wondering how many of us are actually going to stay there once we get CF. It's important in deciding when to move in.smile.gif

Any idea?
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hope a lot of people will move quickly. the more the merrier isnt it.. smile.gif .. furthermore this place is a lil bit isolated at the moment, so good neighborhood is very important. i will move as soon as i get the key.. hehe..

just went back from visiting the house. very surprise with the performance of the 2nd phase construction. very glad if the whole development can be completed in no time.


Added on November 7, 2010, 8:40 pmbefore i forget to ask, do we need to pay again when the developer transfer the title from master to individual title? .. anyone can help on this..?

secondly, i'm just wondering if there will be guard house there?.. saw that in the purchase letter, but the construction of the guard house hasn't commenced at all.

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hope a lot of people will move quickly. the more the merrier isnt it..  smile.gif .. furthermore this place is a lil bit isolated at the moment, so good neighborhood is very important. i will move as soon as i get the key.. hehe..

just went back from visiting the house. very surprise with the performance of the 2nd phase construction. very glad if the whole development can be completed in no time.


Added on November 7, 2010, 8:40 pmbefore i forget to ask, do we need to pay again when the developer transfer the title from master to individual title? .. anyone can help on this..?

secondly, i'm just wondering if there will be guard house there?.. saw that in the purchase letter, but the construction of the guard house hasn't commenced at all.
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I am also intending to move in as soon as I see the enough crowd:) I guess we could be neighbor as your house is type A and mine is Type C. I notice from the plan that Type A and C are mostly packed together.

How's your plan on grill? I saw in the agreement that anti-climb fencing is provided but I don't see it at this moment. Have you noticed about it? I saw some perimeter fencing but not definitely anti-climb fencing. As you said, no guard house too. Hopefully, they all will be ready before we move in as my main concern is about security.


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ooh somehow i totally missed this project even tho i've stayed in SUbang for 24 yrs now...i was aware of Alam Impian but not TTDI.

I just saw iproperty that the corner lots are going for 800k now... thats like 300k appreciation from developers price...in a space of what...1 yr or lesS? >_<

I have a unit in Putra Heights, due to CF early 2011... but when i saw TTDI AI, kinda grown interest to it, seeing the layout, concept and most importantly G&G.

Wonder any corner units left in TTDI AI?
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 8 2010, 05:11 PM)
ooh somehow i totally missed this project even tho i've stayed in SUbang for 24 yrs now...i was aware of Alam Impian but not TTDI.

I just saw iproperty that the corner lots are going for 800k now... thats like 300k appreciation from developers price...in a space of what...1 yr or lesS? >_<

I have a unit in Putra Heights, due to CF early 2011... but when i saw TTDI AI, kinda grown interest to it, seeing the layout, concept and most importantly G&G.

Wonder any corner units left in TTDI AI?
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Last time i check, there were 2 corners (Unit number 2 & 36 @ Jalan panglima Awang 35/121). not sure if there were any takers already.

By the same token, u can call the Naza TTDI AI Salesmen (Syed 0122044275) for this matter. he's very friendly tho. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 8 2010, 05:11 PM)
ooh somehow i totally missed this project even tho i've stayed in SUbang for 24 yrs now...i was aware of Alam Impian but not TTDI.

I just saw iproperty that the corner lots are going for 800k now... thats like 300k appreciation from developers price...in a space of what...1 yr or lesS? >_<

I have a unit in Putra Heights, due to CF early 2011... but when i saw TTDI AI, kinda grown interest to it, seeing the layout, concept and most importantly G&G.

Wonder any corner units left in TTDI AI?
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I went to TTDI office last saturday. Only 1 or 2 intermediates are available due to cancellation from owners with loan securing problems. One is Type B. and another one is Type E. Check with Syed.
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I went to TTDI office last saturday. Only 1 or 2 intermediates are available due to cancellation from owners with loan securing problems. One is Type B. and another one is Type E. Check with Syed.
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rclxms.gif Wah rclxms.gif ....that's cool....am INTERESTED....how do I get hold of this Mr. Syed???? biggrin.gif
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rclxms.gif Wah rclxms.gif ....that's cool....am INTERESTED....how do I get hold of this Mr. Syed???? biggrin.gif
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He is a TTDI sale person for alam impian. His mobile number is 012-2044275....good luck...
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He is a TTDI sale person for alam impian. His mobile number is 012-2044275....good luck...
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Thanks mate...will get in touch with him...
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Nov 9 2010, 11:06 AM)
Thanks mate...will get in touch with him...
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how is the result.. still have unit that vacant?
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 9 2010, 09:41 PM)
how is the result.. still have unit that vacant?
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Tried calling him but he's not answering...tried texting him but no reply from him.... cry.gif

If gt vacant unit sure I sapu by now.... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Nov 10 2010, 08:46 AM)
Tried calling him but he's not answering...tried texting him but no reply from him.... cry.gif

If gt vacant unit sure I sapu by now.... rclxms.gif
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Why don't you call the office? toll free number is 1300888834... and you can directly to go to their sale office and check it out. The address is
No 1, Jalan Marathon 13/31
section 13, Shah Alam

It's next to Shah alam stadium.

You need to rush it if you are serious about it. I saw a few units available last time and disappeared within a day or two.


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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 10 2010, 10:26 AM)
Why don't you call the office? toll free number is 1300888834... and you can directly to go to their sale office and check it out. The address is
No 1, Jalan Marathon 13/31
section 13, Shah Alam

It's next to Shah alam stadium.

You need to rush it if you are serious about it. I saw a few units available last time and disappeared within a day or two.
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Hi All,

Anyone knows when will the snp signing date be?

Thanks

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Hi All,

Anyone knows when will the snp signing date be?

Thanks
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I was told soon, likely next week.

Be careful though, the developer is very evasive about letting the purchaser step into the house, although booking has been paid.

The SPA specifically states that the house is being purchased "as is, where is" but Naza TTDI is refusing to let us into the house, not to mention that the SPA is not following schedule H but a normal subsale SPA. The only good thing is an additional of a short 15-month defect liability period.

I am a purchaser but currently having doubts about the professionalism of Naza TTDI. Any one has had any problems with them?

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with an “as is, where is” property, whatever problems you discover after you won the home are yours to repair and you will have no recourse on the seller

Source: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...13191253AA8NiTn
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 10 2010, 04:08 PM)
I was told soon, likely next week.

Be careful though, the developer is very evasive about letting the purchaser step into the house, although booking has been paid.

The SPA specifically states that the house is being purchased "as is, where is" but Naza TTDI is refusing to let us into the house, not to mention that the SPA is not following schedule H but a normal subsale SPA. The only good thing is an additional of a short 15-month defect liability period.

I am a purchaser but currently having doubts about the professionalism of Naza TTDI. Any one has had any problems with them?
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I was suspicious about that term "as is, where is" in the agreement but i thought that it was my fault not to request them to show me the house first. Now I know that it is standard for every buyer. I will definitely force them to let me see the house first before signing S&P. It has to be that way. Otherwise, they should not put "as is, where is" term.

Any comments on this agenda is very much appreciated.
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 10 2010, 04:43 PM)
I was suspicious about that term "as is, where is" in the agreement but i thought that it was my fault not to request them to show me the house first. Now I know that it is standard for every buyer. I will definitely force them to let me see the house first before signing S&P. It has to be that way. Otherwise, they should not put "as is, where is" term.

Any comments on this agenda is very much appreciated.
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A 10 min call with Naza TTDI went no where... evasive and they used the terms "under-construction" and "completed" whenever it suits them.
- Cannot see house because under construction and no CF
- 15month liability only because house completed (think standard is 18 or 24months?)
- Can only see the house after signing snp and paying the 10% then getting loan and settling remaining 90% (!) -> That's already buying the house

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 10 2010, 04:08 PM)
I was told soon, likely next week.

Be careful though, the developer is very evasive about letting the purchaser step into the house, although booking has been paid.

The SPA specifically states that the house is being purchased "as is, where is" but Naza TTDI is refusing to let us into the house, not to mention that the SPA is not following schedule H but a normal subsale SPA. The only good thing is an additional of a short 15-month defect liability period.

I am a purchaser but currently having doubts about the professionalism of Naza TTDI. Any one has had any problems with them?
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Hi Zenquix,


1. May I know what is schedule H and how it differs from subsale SPA.

2. Since the house will be "as is, where is" what liability will be covered, and what are not covered?

Other issues.....

This evening, called Naza TTDI and was told that they want us to pay the balance 10% during the signing of S&P...what BS is this! mad.gif ...after I argued where to get the money....they asked me to apply personal loan!.....after I argued again....then later they say they can wait for EPF withdrawal.

Then was told.... if the bank doesn't disburse the full payment to them latest 1 MONTH after S&P buyer will have to bear the interest..again..what BS is this! mad.gif.. I thought usually we have 3+1 months to settle this after S&P. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks all

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 10 2010, 07:16 PM)
Hi Zenquix,
1. May I know what is schedule H and how it differs from subsale SPA.
Schedule H applies to under construction property and specifically states when they can get the money etc. + money withheld during liability period + some protection clause for the homebuyer (made mandatory by housing development act). Subsale SPA is self determined, basically written by the lawyer anyway they want.

Note: Lawyer is representating Naza TTDI. House buyer is UNREPRESENTED.

My suggestion: Looking @ their tactics, better get another lawyer or someone knowledgeable to read the SPA with you.

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2. Since the house will be "as is, where is" what liability will be covered, and what are not covered?
Not stated. There is a defect liability clause of 15-months but was not clear whether there are exclusions. Will read thru it again once I get the copy.


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Other issues.....

This evening, called Naza TTDI and was told that they want us to pay the balance 10% during the signing of S&P...what BS is this! mad.gif ...after I argued where to get the money....they asked me to apply personal loan!.....after I argued again....then later they say they can wait for EPF withdrawal.
It is standard to pay the balance 10% downpayment upon signing the S&P.

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Then was told.... if the bank doesn't disburse the full payment to them latest 1 MONTH after S&P buyer will have to bear the interest..again..what BS is this! mad.gif.. I thought usually we have 3+1 months to settle this after S&P. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I thought I read that it was 3+1. Will check again.



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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 10 2010, 08:22 PM)
Schedule H applies to under construction property and specifically states when they can get the money etc. + money withheld during liability period + some protection clause for the homebuyer (made mandatory by housing development act). Subsale SPA is self determined, basically written by the lawyer anyway they want.

Note: Lawyer is representating Naza TTDI. House buyer is UNREPRESENTED.

My suggestion: Looking @ their tactics, better get another lawyer or someone knowledgeable to read the SPA with you.
Not stated. There is a defect liability clause of 15-months but was not clear whether there are exclusions. Will read thru it again once I get the copy.
It is standard to pay the balance 10% downpayment upon signing the S&P.
I thought I read that it was 3+1. Will check again.
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Thanks a lot for the info Zenquick.....

Please keep us all updated of any issues since you seem to be very knowledgeable in this area thumbup.gif ...we buyers must be united
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 10 2010, 05:31 PM)
A 10 min call with Naza TTDI went no where... evasive and they used the terms "under-construction" and "completed" whenever it suits them. 
- Cannot see house because under construction and no CF
- 15month liability only because house completed (think standard is 18 or 24months?)
- Can only see the house after signing snp and paying the 10% then getting loan and settling remaining 90%  (!) -> That's already buying the house
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Whoa...that sounds fishy...
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 10 2010, 08:38 PM)
Thanks a lot for the info Zenquick.....

Please keep us all updated of any issues since you seem to be very knowledgeable in this area  thumbup.gif ...we buyers must be united
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yea i believe upon signing S&P, 10% downpayment must be made... some developers will give the option of a 12mth installment plan, doubt this has it tho.

As for not being able to see the house before signing... i think its almost the same as those buying houses before construction. WHen i bought my unit in putra heights, there wasnt even a show unit to begin with =.= i signed my S&P when my house was still a pile of dirt and grass hahaha...

One question tho, if we're not allowed to see the houses, how come there are property agents putting up pics of the houses in iproperty? sneak in? lol

2nd question, is this all there is to spira houses? or are there other phases of spira as well? cos i saw the website, theres suppose to be alot more units, but so far only couple hundred built.
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standard DLP is definitely 24 mths now... from HDA i think...
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 11 2010, 03:01 AM)
yea i believe upon signing S&P, 10% downpayment must be made... some developers will give the option of a 12mth installment plan, doubt this has it tho.

As for not being able to see the house before signing... i think its almost the same as those buying houses before construction. WHen i bought my unit in putra heights, there wasnt even a show unit to begin with =.= i signed my S&P when my house was still a pile of dirt and grass hahaha...

One question tho, if we're not allowed to see the houses, how come there are property agents putting up pics of the houses in iproperty? sneak in? lol

2nd question, is this all there is to spira houses? or are there other phases of spira as well? cos i saw the website, theres suppose to be alot more units, but so far only couple hundred built.
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According to small-scale model of TTDI alam impian in TTDI office, there will be six phases for SPIRA, 1A-1F. Ours are 1C. Currently, the building is going on for 1B, next to ours. I heard that TTDI is going to launch them in Dec or Jan. Land sizes are 20X80, 22X80 and 24X80. The price will be higher too. for 24X80, it will be above 600,000. Probably, the build-up will be bigger too. Anyway, that phase need to wait for another 1 year to get the house so I guess we are lucky to have our houses in this phase. That's what I feel coz i need the house ASAP.

Any idea when can we move in? Will it be the same process with sub-sale? I am new to buying house from developer. For sub-sale, you at least need to wait 3-4 months after signing S&P to move in since the owner will transfer the key to you after he gets money from bank.
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 11 2010, 03:01 AM)
As for not being able to see the house before signing... i think its almost the same as those buying houses before construction. WHen i bought my unit in putra heights, there wasnt even a show unit to begin with =.= i signed my S&P when my house was still a pile of dirt and grass hahaha...
Understood. But in those cases (under construction property) we are protected by a mandatory S&P format, which TTDI Land is not doing now.
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 11 2010, 07:56 AM)
According to small-scale model of TTDI alam impian in TTDI office, there will be six phases for SPIRA, 1A-1F. Ours are 1C. Currently, the building is going on for 1B, next to ours. I heard that TTDI is going to launch them in Dec or Jan. Land sizes are 20X80, 22X80 and 24X80. The price will be higher too. for 24X80, it will be above 600,000. Probably, the build-up will be bigger too. Anyway, that phase need to wait for another 1 year to get the house so I guess we are lucky to have our houses in this phase. That's what I feel coz i need the house ASAP.

Any idea when can we move in? Will it be the same process with sub-sale? I am new to buying house from developer. For sub-sale, you at least need to wait 3-4 months after signing S&P to move in since the owner will transfer the key to you after he gets money from bank.
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oh ic... if the price for the new phases are something like you mentioned, then i think its probably worth the wait (for me tongue.gif). since subsale prices now are inflated ever so high... corner lot already 850k above.

not to mention, once phase 1C completes, and you start moving in, others will get to see the end product and finishing of TTDI's houses. No worries for 2nd phase then haha smile.gif
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 11 2010, 08:29 AM)
oh ic... if the price for the new phases are something like you mentioned, then i think its probably worth the wait (for me tongue.gif). since subsale prices now are inflated ever so high... corner lot already 850k above.

not to mention, once phase 1C completes, and you start moving in, others will get to see the end product and finishing of TTDI's houses. No worries for 2nd phase then haha smile.gif
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Don't count on the info from me too much. That's what I heard from the sale guy. The price of new phase has not been fixed yet. Regarding sub-sale of TTDI on iproperty, those prices are too inflated and not reasonable. I don't think any serious buyer will show any interests in those houses.

Well...phase 1C is the first phase of TTDI alam impian, I don't think TTDI will do anything stupid to spoil their reputation and drive the potential buyers away. That's what I am counting on it even if i am not that happy with not being able to see the inside of the house.

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 11 2010, 09:47 AM)
Don't count on the info from me too much. That's what I heard from the sale guy. The price of new phase has not been fixed yet. Regarding sub-sale of TTDI on iproperty, those prices are too inflated and not reasonable. I don't think any serious buyer will show any interests in those houses.

Well...phase 1C is the first phase of TTDI alam impian, I don't think TTDI will do anything stupid to spoil their reputation and drive the potential buyers away. That's what I am counting on it even if i am not that happy with not being able to see the inside of the house.
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is there any way we can have a look inside ya. really glad if we can see it before siging the S&P next week.

From the show house, everything look perfect & high quality. hopefully the same quality can be observed in our house (finger crossed) brows.gif
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 11 2010, 12:43 PM)
is there any way we can have a look inside ya. really glad if we can see it before siging the S&P next week.

From the show house, everything look perfect & high quality. hopefully the same quality can be observed in our house (finger crossed)  brows.gif
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You should press hard on TTDI to look inside the house before you sign S&P. That's what I am going to do. I will go to TTDI office this weekend and i will keep you updated on this matter.

Regarding quality, I just went inside the compound of my house and peeked into the house last week. It's just basic house. Nothing similar to show house so don't raise your hope that high.
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 11 2010, 01:23 PM)
You should press hard on TTDI to look inside the house before you sign S&P. That's what I am going to do. I will go to TTDI office this weekend and i will keep you updated on this matter.
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Might see you there this weekend.
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saturday or sunday? i'll be going to their office as well to see what they have and dig up some info on future launches wink.gif

any info on TTDI's past projects?...comments or complaints? seems to me most are quite high end and not many projects too.
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 11 2010, 01:37 PM)
saturday or sunday? i'll be going to their office as well to see what they have and dig up some info on future launches wink.gif

any info on TTDI's past projects?...comments or complaints? seems to me most are quite high end and not many projects too.
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Not sure yet. have not been able to get much info and feedback of their past projects

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 11 2010, 01:23 PM)
You should press hard on TTDI to look inside the house before you sign S&P. That's what I am going to do. I will go to TTDI office this weekend and i will keep you updated on this matter.

Regarding quality, I just went inside the compound of my house and peeked into the house last week. It's just basic house. Nothing similar to show house so don't raise your hope that high.
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Dear Engm85, Naing, Zenquix....

Ya we should demand to see the house first....lets keep us and all other silent readers updated on this issue...they should entertain the request if they are professional enough...sigh

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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 11 2010, 01:37 PM)
saturday or sunday? i'll be going to their office as well to see what they have and dig up some info on future launches wink.gif

any info on TTDI's past projects?...comments or complaints? seems to me most are quite high end and not many projects too.
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TTDI only open on Saturday during weekend. Wow.. seems like TTDI office will be crowded with Alam Impian owners:)

All recent TTDI projects are high-end. That's why I am not that worry with not being able to see the house inside.

Probably, they keep it that way so that they don't have to entertain each and every buyers. I am sure they would show us the house once we are signing S&P.
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Then was told.... if the bank doesn't disburse the full payment to them latest 1 MONTH after S&P buyer will have to bear the interest..again..what BS is this! mad.gif.. I thought usually we have 3+1 months to settle this after S&P. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Confirmed that this is 90 days + additional 30 days with penalty
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Confirmed that this is 90 days + additional 30 days with penalty
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nice. u called the TTDI and confirm this, right?.. thanks ya.

and how about the rumors that we need to pay 10% upon signing the S&P?

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nice. u called the TTDI and confirm this, right?.. thanks ya.

and how about the rumors that we need to pay 10% upon signing the S&P?
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I am looking at the S&P.

That is not the rumor but confirmed. Balance 10% paid at signing of S&P.
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I am looking at the S&P.

That is not the rumor but confirmed. Balance 10% paid at signing of S&P.
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owh ic. how do you get the S&P already?.. i thought it only available starting from next week. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 12 2010, 10:01 AM)
Confirmed that this is 90 days + additional 30 days with penalty
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Thank God its 3+1 months after signing S&P ... so that means Naza just BS'ing me in order to get their money early...tq. Zenquix


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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 12 2010, 11:05 AM)
I am looking at the S&P.

That is not the rumor but confirmed. Balance 10% paid at signing of S&P.
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Zenquix..any other issues that we all should take note in the S&P?

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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 12 2010, 11:42 AM)
owh ic. how do you get the S&P already?.. i thought it only available starting from next week.  tongue.gif
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You can request to sign now like me tongue.gif

QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 12 2010, 02:24 PM)
Thank God its 3+1 months after signing S&P ... so that means Naza just BS'ing me in order to get their money early...tq. Zenquix


Added on November 12, 2010, 2:25 pm

Zenquix..any other issues that we all should take note in the S&P?
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There are some clauses I don't like but still going thru with the lawyer. As I mentioned previously don't expect a standard under construction S&P as this 'completed' property is not protected under the housing act.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 12 2010, 07:08 PM)
You can request to sign now like me tongue.gif
There are some clauses I don't like but still going thru with the lawyer. As I mentioned previously don't expect a standard under construction S&P as this 'completed' property is not protected under the housing act.
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Hi Zenquix,

Could you please share with us those clauses you are not comfortable with?

I know I'm asking a lot..but I'm pretty sure all the readers here will really appreciate it. Sharing is caring. Lets take care of each other biggrin.gif

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I don't want to cause misinformation until I get clarification smile.gif
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 12 2010, 10:54 PM)
I don't want to cause misinformation until I get clarification smile.gif
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haha thats all right. please share after all data clarified. at least we can share each other opinion as well. two brains always better than one . thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 12 2010, 11:21 PM)
haha thats all right. please share after all data clarified. at least we can share each other opinion as well. two brains always better than one .  thumbup.gif
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haha thats all right. please share after all data clarified. at least we can share each other opinion as well. two brains always better than one .  thumbup.gif
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I went to TTDI office last saturday for getting more info on SPA and checking inside of the house.
For SPA, we need to contact to the lawyer who is handling TTDI alam impian project. They gave me the phone number of the firm and ask me to directly contact to them.
For checking inside the house, they again gave me the phone number of TTDI sale manager.
I will probably call those numbers this week and keep you updated on what is going on with these issues.

Have you guys looked at the artist's impression of TTDI phase 1B? I am not sure i would want them.




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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 15 2010, 08:20 AM)
I went to TTDI office last saturday for getting more info on SPA and checking inside of the house.
For SPA, we need to contact to the lawyer who is handling TTDI alam impian project. They gave me the phone number of the firm and ask me to directly contact to them.
For checking inside the house, they again gave me the phone number of TTDI sale manager.
I will probably call those numbers this week and keep you updated on what is going on with these issues.

Have you guys looked at the artist's impression of TTDI phase 1B? I am not sure i would want them.
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can you PM me for the lawyer number & TTDI sale manager. very much appreciate if we can have a look inside upon siging the SPA.

wow, the design of the phase 1B a lil bit 'weird', i suppose. looks like a design for the shop house. is this for real?
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 15 2010, 09:05 AM)
can you PM me for the lawyer number & TTDI sale manager. very much appreciate if we can have a look inside upon siging the SPA.

wow, the design of the phase 1B a lil bit 'weird', i suppose. looks like a design for the shop house. is this for real?
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Hi Naing...

Thanks a lot for the info. Appreciate it very much.

Could you please pm me the numbers too?


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I went to Alam Impian on Sunday.

I&P design and TTDI design really like heaven & earth ! shocking.gif

TTDI Spira more like white-grey while I&P like cream & brownish... still a lot of empty land...

Why TTDI AI car porch looks quite "cramped"? I know I&P is 22 x 80. Is TTDI also the same?
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I was at the spira show unit as well last Saturday. concept wise is very interesting, but after looking at the real unit, somehow wasnt up to my expectations >_<

The entire AI is relatively new, probably take another 10 yrs to fully develope. THerefore property appreciation may not be as fast?

also took a trip to AI, really nice designs... but saw one of the corner units, the roof pillar also slanted to one side @_@
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also took a trip to AI, really nice designs... but saw one of the corner units, the roof pillar also slanted to one side @_@
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 15 2010, 02:23 PM)
I was at the spira show unit as well last Saturday. concept wise is very interesting, but after looking at the real unit, somehow wasnt up to my expectations >_<

The entire AI is relatively new, probably take another 10 yrs to fully develope. THerefore property appreciation may not be as fast?

also took a trip to AI, really nice designs... but saw one of the corner units, the roof pillar also slanted to one side @_@
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u are not the sales person in I&P aren't u? tongue.gif

pehaps i'm not too observant, not realize of the slanted roof. lucky me to buy middle unit tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 15 2010, 02:23 PM)
I was at the spira show unit as well last Saturday. concept wise is very interesting, but after looking at the real unit, somehow wasnt up to my expectations >_<

The entire AI is relatively new, probably take another 10 yrs to fully develope. THerefore property appreciation may not be as fast?

also took a trip to AI, really nice designs... but saw one of the corner units, the roof pillar also slanted to one side @_@
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Hi Serofax,

Which corner unit?...Please specify which lot number (refer to the circled numbers)..thanks

http://www.ttdialamimpian.com/spira_1c_siteplan.html
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I thought he refer to I&P AI?
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Can I know what was the the developer price for the TTDI Alam Impian project? I saw a few subsale units on iproperty going for as much as RM600k++
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Can I know what was the the developer price for the TTDI Alam Impian project? I saw a few subsale units on iproperty going for as much as RM600k++
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Hi..refer to page 3 smile.gif
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Hi..refer to page 3  smile.gif
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Whoa - the 22 x 75 unit was going for RM490K++ and now there are people selling for RM600K!!! And this is even before the S&P has been signed nor the CF issued out...!!! blink.gif
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 15 2010, 02:23 PM)
I was at the spira show unit as well last Saturday. concept wise is very interesting, but after looking at the real unit, somehow wasnt up to my expectations >_<

The entire AI is relatively new, probably take another 10 yrs to fully develope. THerefore property appreciation may not be as fast?

also took a trip to AI, really nice designs... but saw one of the corner units, the roof pillar also slanted to one side @_@
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I agree with you. Show unit is fantastic but the real unit is un-comparable. Anyway, I had spent a lot of time in house-hunting in Kota Kemuning and I&P AI before. You will get 7 years old 22X75 house with total land area about 3200 sq-ft in kota kemuning with the same price you pay for corner lot with land area about 4000 sq-ft in TTDI. And the same size of land with bigger build up, 2900 sq-ft, you need to at least pay above RM 800000 above in I&P AI. And I&P AI houses are 2 years old already:) So I guess it's worth to buy the house in TTDI AI. And there is more room for higher appreciation.
I remember I was thinking about buying Nuklian from I&P AI with 495000 in Dec 2009 but i changed my mind. Now I&P AI is selling the same build up with 579000! This is just changing in developer prices. For completed houses, Canting 1 in I&P AI costs you about 510000 while Canting 3 developer price is about 495000. If the developer price increase, the completed house price will increase too:)
For SPIRA, there are 5 more launches to go!

I read from somewhere that all developments by I&P will be done by 2022 and probably, the same for TTDI. I am hoping AI will be booming within 5 years.

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perhaps theres some misunderstanding.

the "slanted roof pillars" i was mentioning about was I&P AI. not TTDI AI. i didnt manage to take picture, as it was too bright under the afternoon sun, and my iphone camera wont cut it lol...

i'm kinda worried about the developement in the area. as we can see kota kemuning after over 12 yrs, still not fully occupied. many shop houses behind still vacant and empty. however Bkt Rimau doing much better, with international school, hospital, carrefour all ready and running. blessing for KK residents.

pray hard AI wont be too far behind =D
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Nov 15 2010, 04:26 PM)
Whoa - the 22 x 75 unit was going for RM490K++ and now there are people selling for RM600K!!! And this is even before the S&P has been signed nor the CF issued out...!!! blink.gif
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I don't think those prices are reasonable. Last week, i just checked a two and half story 22X80 with build up of 2790 sq-ft in I&P AI and i could get it with 585000. Who would pay 22X75 with 2200 sq-ft TTDI house for the same price? I would not!
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I don't think those prices are reasonable. Last week, i just checked a two and half story 22X80 with build up of 2790 sq-ft in I&P AI and i could get it with 585000. Who would pay 22X75 with 2200 sq-ft TTDI house for the same price? I would not!
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Wow such a huge diff although there are only 5 ft diff in length?
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 15 2010, 05:09 PM)
I don't think those prices are reasonable. Last week, i just checked a two and half story 22X80 with build up of 2790 sq-ft in I&P AI and i could get it with 585000. Who would pay 22X75 with 2200 sq-ft TTDI house for the same price? I would not!
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Maybe those wanting new house + G&G concept + warranty + new design tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 15 2010, 05:05 PM)
perhaps theres some misunderstanding.

the "slanted roof pillars" i was mentioning about was I&P AI. not TTDI AI. i didnt manage to take picture, as it was too bright under the afternoon sun, and my iphone camera wont cut it lol...

i'm kinda worried about the developement in the area. as we can see kota kemuning after over 12 yrs, still not fully occupied. many shop houses behind still vacant and empty. however Bkt Rimau doing much better, with international school, hospital, carrefour all ready and running. blessing for KK residents.

pray hard AI wont be too far behind =D
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If u r referring to I&P AI, ur comment could be quite subjective. Without pic it's hard to determine the actual defects you mentioned. I have seen I&P AI, it is quite impressive and workmanship is not bad.

BTW i am in the construction industry.

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QUOTE(Serofax @ Nov 15 2010, 05:05 PM)
perhaps theres some misunderstanding.

the "slanted roof pillars" i was mentioning about was I&P AI. not TTDI AI. i didnt manage to take picture, as it was too bright under the afternoon sun, and my iphone camera wont cut it lol...

i'm kinda worried about the developement in the area. as we can see kota kemuning after over 12 yrs, still not fully occupied. many shop houses behind still vacant and empty. however Bkt Rimau doing much better, with international school, hospital, carrefour all ready and running. blessing for KK residents.

pray hard AI wont be too far behind =D
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But in general, Kota Kemuning houses are much more expensive than Bukit Rimau houses right? Same like Putra Height, lacking a lot in commercial activities but prices are shooting up. Their latest semi-d (the glades) i think more than RM2,000,000 (hehe I just like to see a lot of zeros after a non-zero digit). Maybe location is much more important than amenities? Hmmmm


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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 15 2010, 05:52 PM)
If u r referring to I&P AI, ur comment could be quite subjective. Without pic it's hard to determine the actual defects you mentioned. I have seen I&P AI, it is quite impressive and workmanship is not bad.

BTW i am in the construction industry.
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Hi Furry,

What's your comments on the workmanship and materials of TTDI Alam Impian since you have a set oftrained eyes for buildings? Thanks.

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Hi Furry,

What's your comments on the workmanship and materials of TTDI Alam Impian since you have a set oftrained eyes for buildings? Thanks.
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hope u r not being sarcastic.. tongue.gif

I have not been into the showhouse or an actual unit because I was driving into the housing area around 5pm. I did not inspect in detail so my opinion might not be accurate. Maybe we can meet up next time you are there when you have your key. I can visit ur unit and check defects as a friend laugh.gif
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 15 2010, 06:17 PM)
hope u r not being sarcastic.. tongue.gif

I have not been into the showhouse or an actual unit because I was driving into the housing area around 5pm. I did not inspect in detail so my opinion might not be accurate. Maybe we can meet up next time you are there when you have your key. I can visit ur unit and check defects as a friend laugh.gif
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Eh I'm not being sarcastic....

I value other ppl opinion, especially those who know what they are talking about smile.gif
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 15 2010, 05:09 PM)
I don't think those prices are reasonable. Last week, i just checked a two and half story 22X80 with build up of 2790 sq-ft in I&P AI and i could get it with 585000. Who would pay 22X75 with 2200 sq-ft TTDI house for the same price? I would not!
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Just for info sharing on the sales advert that I bumped onto for the TTDI AI Project:

22 x 70 Unit RM580K

22 x 70 Unit RM580K

22 x75 Unit RM590K

24 x 70 Unit RM600K

Does this price justifies itself? Also saw a few corner units going RM900k onwards.... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 15 2010, 05:42 PM)
Wow such a huge diff although there are only 5 ft diff in length?
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No... I&P AI is a two and half story. TTDI AI is just two story...

For a 22X80 two story with build up area of 2400 sq-ft in I&P AI, the last deal price was about 510000 for a completed house. Just for comparing with the prices of TTDI AI houses.

Regarding workmanship, I prefer I&P AI since their finishing is better, in my opinion; however, I like the design of TTDI AI. That's why I choose to buy from TTDI.


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Maybe those wanting new house + G&G concept + warranty + new design tongue.gif
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New house;
The most of the houses for sale in I&P AI have never been occupied even if it's completed 2 years ago.
From what I saw in TTDI facebook, the houses in TTDI AI completed at least 1 year ago.
So new house don't count for comparing I&P and TTDI.

G&G:
It stated perimeter fencing and guard house, but i don't see anything like that at this moment. Unless they build proper 5-6 ft tall perimeter fencing(it is just 2 ft high steel railing outside of our compound walls) and a guard house, i would not call it G&G:)

Warranty is a big plus.

Design is also a big plus for those who like it. I am one of them. Otherwise, it's useless as I&P AI design is also very good.

But TTDI AI is too deep inside.

So you decide whether you want to pay more for the house with lesser build-up area and land area.smile.gif

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 16 2010, 07:48 AM)
No... I&P AI is a two and half story. TTDI AI is just two story...

For a 22X80 two story with build up area of 2400 sq-ft in I&P AI, the last deal price was about 510000 for a completed house. Just for comparing with the prices of  TTDI AI houses.

Regarding workmanship, I prefer I&P AI since their finishing is better, in my opinion; however, I like the design of TTDI AI. That's why I choose to buy from TTDI.


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New house;
The most of the houses for sale in I&P AI have never been occupied even if it's completed 2 years ago.
From what I saw in TTDI facebook, the houses in TTDI AI completed at least 1 year ago.
So new house don't count for comparing I&P and TTDI.

G&G:
It stated perimeter fencing and guard house, but i don't see anything like that at this moment. Unless they build proper 5-6 ft tall perimeter fencing(it is just 2 ft high steel railing outside of our compound walls) and a guard house, i would not call it G&G:)

Warranty is a big plus.

Design is also a big plus for those who like it. I am one of them. Otherwise, it's useless as I&P AI design is also very good.

But TTDI AI is too deep inside.

So you decide whether you want to pay more for the house with lesser build-up area and land area.smile.gif
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Well, you do have an in-depth explanation on your choice and I respect that. notworthy.gif
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same here. and glad that i have the same decision rclxms.gif

i wasnt having enough time to think during that time (lame reason, i kno tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 16 2010, 07:48 AM)

G&G:
It stated perimeter fencing and guard house, but i don't see anything like that at this moment. Unless they build proper 5-6 ft tall perimeter fencing(it is just 2 ft high steel railing outside of our compound walls) and a guard house, i would not call it G&G:)

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I was informed by both the sale and the actual contrctor of TTDI Alam Impian (chit chat with them when visiting my house), that the construction of the anti-climb fencing will commence after receiving CF. It'll be 6ft tall, using some kind of iron, not brick....you can google anti-climb fencing to have an idea...

Same for guard house...will commence soon.....

So if executed as promised...should be quite a proper G&G biggrin.gif


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New house;
The most of the houses for sale in I&P AI have never been occupied even if it's completed 2 years ago.
From what I saw in TTDI facebook, the houses in TTDI AI completed at least 1 year ago.
So new house don't count for comparing I&P and TTDI.

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It matters for me at least, since there will be wear and tear...however, TTDI Alam Impian houses are completed for quite some time also...just not sure when ... 1 year+ ? ... I just hope that it has been maintained nicely

Anyway..yes "NEW" is a subjective word tongue.gif


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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 16 2010, 12:26 PM)
I was informed by both the sale and the actual contrctor of TTDI Alam Impian (chit chat with them when visiting my house), that the construction of the anti-climb fencing will commence after receiving CF. It'll be 6ft tall, using some kind of iron, not brick....you can google anti-climb fencing to have an idea...

Same for guard house...will commence soon.....

So if executed as promised...should be quite a proper G&G  biggrin.gif


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It matters for me at least, since there will be wear and tear...however, TTDI Alam Impian houses are completed for quite some time also...just not sure when ... 1 year+ ? ... I just hope that it has been maintained nicely

Anyway..yes "NEW" is a subjective word  tongue.gif
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What you said is true, then there are more reasons to be happy with our purchase:) Just looking at what we currently have for perimeter fencing, i am quite unhappy as anyone can come and knock my house glass windows at the back anytime they want:) And worst, the back of my house is facing the plantations! Now I am feeling much better:)

According to comments from TTDI facebook, TTDI AI phase 1C was supposed to launch March 2010 but delayed till August 2010 due to land title transfer problem with I&P. Probably, it is 6 months old:) not 1 years as i mentioned earlier...

Anyway, I got the house directly from developer so no complaint:)

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Hi All...has anyone has been called to signed the s&p? I was informed that they will send us a letter..anyone received his/her letter yet?
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 16 2010, 12:26 PM)
I was informed by both the sale and the actual contrctor of TTDI Alam Impian (chit chat with them when visiting my house), that the construction of the anti-climb fencing will commence after receiving CF. It'll be 6ft tall, using some kind of iron, not brick....you can google anti-climb fencing to have an idea...
You managed to visit your house?
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You managed to visit your house?
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Just outside tongue.gif

I haven't requested them to show me the inside since they haven't contacted me to sign the s&p...

You still studying the S&P? when is the last day to sign?
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Just outside  tongue.gif 

I haven't requested them to show me the inside since they haven't contacted me to sign the s&p...

You still studying the S&P? when is the last day to sign?
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i received my letter on last Saturday, to sign the S&P. but wasnt have the chance to go to the office and sign S&P. perhaps will do so next week.

i call the TTDI salesmen yesterday, and request to look inside my house after i sign the S&P, he said that he can try to arrange that with site supervisor. right now, they dont have the key yet, still with contractor. thats what he told me. hopefully can view the unit by next week.
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Well, I'm still waiting if there are any last minute cancellations of purchase prior to signing the S&P to jump in the bandwagon. Have spoken to Syed about it and will know in 2-3weeks time if I could be an TTDI AI resident as well. brows.gif
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Well, I'm still waiting if there are any last minute cancellations of purchase prior to signing the S&P to jump in the bandwagon. Have spoken to Syed about it and will know in 2-3weeks time if I could be an TTDI AI resident as well.  brows.gif
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so there is no more unit left?
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so there is no more unit left?
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I know nothing about the letter for S&P but I just called the law firm that handling S&P for my house to request the drafted S&P. They said ok and going to send me the soft copy through email. And could sign the S&P in their office during weekday. The weekend signing is only allowed through developer.

Just got the S&P from my lawyer through email!



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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 16 2010, 02:48 PM)
I know nothing about the letter for S&P but I just called the law firm that handling S&P for my house to request the drafted S&P. They said ok and going to send me the soft copy through email.  And could sign the S&P in their office during weekday. The weekend signing is only allowed through developer.

Just got the S&P from my lawyer through email!
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You still studying the S&P? when is the last day to sign?
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Will be seeing the lawyer after Haji.

Stuff I am concerned with
- no built up size of house in S&P (should be corrected)
- some dimensions missing in the layouts (clerical)
- a very weird clause in regards to refinancing of the land by the developer (lawyer says that clause is standard sweat.gif )
- a weird clause in regards to right of way (more for strata developments, waiting for lawyer to feedback)

last day to sign is 14 days from the date of the letter from TTDI.

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Well, practically everything is booked.
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no wonder. saw advert in the star today. they'll launching the second phase (viola) any soon. very interested to see the price. anybody know about the price already?
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no wonder. saw advert in the star today. they'll launching the second phase (viola) any soon. very interested to see the price. anybody know about the price already?
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was there today. 2 units still available. One corner and one intermediate.
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was there today. 2 units still available. One corner and one intermediate.
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Any clue if its 'off feng-shui' units mate?
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Did not really look. Just saw that it still had stickers.
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 18 2010, 08:41 PM)
no wonder. saw advert in the star today. they'll launching the second phase (viola) any soon. very interested to see the price. anybody know about the price already?
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The photo of the houses I posted for phase 1B must be named as Viola? I got that photo from "The Star Property Fair" advertisement from TTDI. That fair starts from today in Mid-valley(I think) and TTDI is one of the company participating in it. You might get more info on Viola if you go there and check it out.


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Owh really, but when I called the sales person they said its all sold off!!!! vmad.gif

Any clue if its 'off feng-shui' units mate?
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Some buyers who bought TTDI AI houses earlier return their houses to developer for whatever reasons (most likely loan problems due to BNM recent announcement). Not necessarily bad feng-shui places.

If you are serious about buying it, call Syed regularly. Don't wait for his call.

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heard that the indicative price for viola is RM480k for 20 x 80. the built up size may be 1952 sq ft ..
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 19 2010, 03:14 PM)
heard that the indicative price for viola is RM480k for 20 x 80. the built up size may be 1952 sq ft ..
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So it is equivalent of 22x70 SPIRA but it was RM 452k.



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heard that the indicative price for viola is RM480k for 20 x 80. the built up size may be 1952 sq ft ..
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Naza TTDI marketing director Charlie Chan says that the response has been good. Their projects, The Valley TTDI Ampang and TTDI Alam Impian at Shah Alam has attracted many holidaymakers and he expects a major crowd tomorrow. The Valley features semi-d villas and villas priced from RM2.97 million onwards, while its super-villas are priced from RM5.5 million. On the other hand, TTDI Alam Impian is a double-storey link houses with courtyards, priced from RM450,000. The Naza TTDI booth is a unique double-storey design. Chan says, “This is one of the first few fairs that we have participated in and we wanted it to be unique. Upstairs is a lounge where we can entertain VIP clients.”

The above was quoted in The Star covering Property Fair. According to this, 20X80 is priced around RM 450k. Not much different from the SPIRA equivalent.

But VIOLA is not G&G! TTDI drop G&G idea citing customers may not want to pay maintenance fees for G&G. I am not sure how correct is that. I definitely prefer G&G concept.

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The above was quoted in The Star covering Property Fair. According to this, 20X80 is priced around RM 450k. Not much different from the SPIRA equivalent.

But VIOLA is not G&G! TTDI drop G&G idea citing customers may not want to pay maintenance fees for G&G. I am not sure how correct is that. I definitely prefer G&G concept.
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owh ic.. last time i called TTDI office, they not sure the price (might not be the time to release the price), but stated the indicative price of RM 480k onwards. perhaps there was miscommunication somewhere.

how much for the maintainance in G&G?.. other that the guards fees, do we need to pay for other cost as well, in the future?
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Just got Viola perspective photos from TTDI facebook.....

Type A (20X80 ?)

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Type B (22X80 ?)

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Type C (24X80 ?)

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Type D (Corner?)


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If im not mistaken theres no maintenance fee for Spira. Security free for 2 years then resident must form a community. As for the landscape, they will maintain it for free.
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If im not mistaken theres no maintenance fee for Spira. Security free for 2 years then resident must form a community. As for the landscape, they will maintain it for free.
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What I meant "maintenance fee" in here is the fee for taking care of Guard house, Anti-climb fence and guards after 2 years. And anti-climb fence is not long lasting as a brick wall and may need to rebuild after a few years.


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heard from Developer the Viola is not G&G but future resident may opted to apply from MBSA since every project will be single point entry/exit?!

Same as Spira. They will maintain security guards presence there only for few months. Thats why no charge for the fees.
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already call naza TTDI again. which confirmed the info i gave earlier.

min of 20 x 80, built up of 1952 sq ft, and min price of 480k.

what reported in the newspaper might be the 'min price for TTDi alam impian' which ultimately refering to spira 20 x 70. just my wild guess.

looking at the design of Viola, not bad at all!!. i'm jeoleous if viola have a balcony outside the master bed room T_T. Hope spira would have one. only hope, i know.
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QUOTE(snake4168 @ Nov 22 2010, 01:18 PM)
heard from Developer the Viola is not G&G but future resident may opted to apply from MBSA since every project will be single point entry/exit?!

Same as Spira. They will maintain security guards presence there only for few months. Thats why no charge for the fees.
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I wonder why they dropped the G&G concept for Viola...G&G in my personal opinion is one of the key features differentiating TTDI and I&P...

I have received a copy of my S&P...reading it now ....

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any concern on the S&P bro?.. i might be going to the office tomorrow for the sigining.
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 22 2010, 01:22 PM)
already call naza TTDI again. which confirmed the info i gave earlier.

min of 20 x 80, built up of 1952 sq ft, and min price of 480k.

what reported in the newspaper might be the 'min price for TTDi alam impian' which ultimately refering to spira 20 x 70. just my wild guess.

looking at the design of Viola, not bad at all!!. i'm jeoleous if viola have a balcony outside the master bed room T_T. Hope spira would have one. only hope, i know.
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Really ?!! I called up the marketing dept and he told me viola starting price at 450k T.T. Anyone know where exactly Is alam impian ? Is it near hicom shah alam ? Quite concern with the location
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 22 2010, 01:22 PM)
already call naza TTDI again. which confirmed the info i gave earlier.

min of 20 x 80, built up of 1952 sq ft, and min price of 480k.

what reported in the newspaper might be the 'min price for TTDi alam impian' which ultimately refering to spira 20 x 70. just my wild guess.

looking at the design of Viola, not bad at all!!. i'm jeoleous if viola have a balcony outside the master bed room T_T. Hope spira would have one. only hope, i know.
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Probably, The Star mis-quoted the price of Viola.

After seeing Viola pictures, I felt the same for balconies in Viola. The design is also quite elegant. Good job TTDI...

However, i would still choose Spira as I need it right now:). For Viola, wait for another 1 and half years according to Syed.


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I wonder why they dropped the G&G concept for Viola...G&G in my personal opinion is one of the key features differentiating TTDI and I&P...

I have received a copy of my S&P...reading it now ....
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My wild guess is that TTDI don't want to spend on perimeter fencing for their customers. I don't believe in their ""customers complaining story".

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any concern on the S&P bro?.. i might be going to the office tomorrow for the sigining.
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So far that I noticed.....

1. You are deemed to have been inspected and accepted your house when signing the spa..so I think we all should at least check the house first? Maybe can ask them to bring you to your house before signing ....

2. Defect liability period...one paragraph says 1 month after you complained...and they didn't execute the repairing..you can find own contractor..and claim later ...but the following paragraph says..after 1 month must give them additonal 14 days for them to repair before you can start repairing ...so is it 30 or 44 days before you can repair and claim? rclxub.gif

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Really ?!! I called up the marketing dept and he told me viola starting price at 450k T.T. Anyone know where exactly Is alam impian ? Is it near hicom shah alam ? Quite concern with the location
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It's near to Kota Kemuning. Next to Shah Alam section 24. Check on the google map.
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It's near to Kota Kemuning. Next to Shah Alam section 24. Check on the google map.
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Thanks naing !!! Hope to get one of this !
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 22 2010, 03:47 PM)
Probably, The Star mis-quoted the price of Viola.

After seeing Viola pictures, I felt the same for balconies in Viola. The design is also quite elegant. Good job TTDI...

However, i would still choose Spira as I need it right now:). For Viola, wait for another 1 and half years according to Syed.


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My wild guess is that TTDI don't want to spend on perimeter fencing for their customers. I don't believe in their ""customers complaining story".
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Ya, maybe the response is so good that they think investing in G&G is just a waste of money

or

the new ruling frm Gov for G&G made it difficult to make one (the latest guidelines to apply for G&G is quite demanding..must have this and that...cannot have this and that....)..maybe spira is spared since its completed before the guidlines are out?

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 22 2010, 03:53 PM)
So far that I noticed.....

1. You are deemed to have been inspected and accepted your house when signing the spa..so I think we all should at least check the house first? Maybe can ask them to bring you to your house before signing ....

2. Defect liability period...one paragraph says 1 month after you complained...and they didn't execute the repairing..you can find own contractor..and claim later ...but the following paragraph says..after 1 month must give them additonal 14 days for them to repair before you can start repairing ...so is it 30 or 44 days before you can repair and claim?  rclxub.gif
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I just met with Christine (my lawyer from Abdul Rahman) last saturday and cleared the confusion on Maybank involvement and right of way.

What i understood was that TTDI got loan from Maybank using the master title of the whole project. Once our bank release the money, some part of it will goes to Maybank and they will release that portion of land to us individually.

For right of way, it's only giving right of way for the area outside of our lots such as road, grass land, park and so on.

Now I am quite ok with SPA. Maybe I am too naive:)
Waiting for the loan to get approved. Once loan approved I will sign the SPA.

And definitely need to go inside and check it as it is our right to do it.

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 22 2010, 04:02 PM)
I just met with Christine (my lawyer from Abdul Rahman) last saturday and cleared the confusion on Maybank involvement and right of way.

What i understood was that TTDI got loan from Maybank using the master title of the whole project. Once our bank release the money, some part of it will goes to Maybank and they will release that portion of land to us individually.

For right of way, it's only giving right of way for the area outside of our lots such as road, grass land, park and so on.

Now I am quite ok with SPA. Maybe I am too naive:)
Waiting for the loan to get approved. Once loan approved I will sign the SPA.

And definitely need to go inside and check it as it is our right to do it.
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Out of curiosity, regarding the right of way...is it only given to the buyers..or outside people (take ppl from sungai kandis for example) can use it also (example..playground)?
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 22 2010, 03:53 PM)
So far that I noticed.....

1. You are deemed to have been inspected and accepted your house when signing the spa..so I think we all should at least check the house first? Maybe can ask them to bring you to your house before signing ....

2. Defect liability period...one paragraph says 1 month after you complained...and they didn't execute the repairing..you can find own contractor..and claim later ...but the following paragraph says..after 1 month must give them additonal 14 days for them to repair before you can start repairing ...so is it 30 or 44 days before you can repair and claim?  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 22 2010, 04:02 PM)
I just met with Christine (my lawyer from Abdul Rahman) last saturday and cleared the confusion on Maybank involvement and right of way.

What i understood was that TTDI got loan from Maybank using the master title of the whole project. Once our bank release the money, some part of it will goes to Maybank and they will release that portion of land to us individually.

For right of way, it's only giving right of way for the area outside of our lots such as road, grass land, park and so on.

Now I am quite ok with SPA. Maybe I am too naive:)
Waiting for the loan to get approved. Once loan approved I will sign the SPA.

And definitely need to go inside and check it as it is our right to do it.
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The S&P is not perfect, but to be honest we got manuevered into it. If you look at the offer letter you signed when you 'booked', you have already inspected the property + accept any S&P that they prepare.

Defect period is short @ 15 months but that is already in the offer letter as well.

The line about Maybank, based on schedule G should have read any banks and/or finance institutions. At the current form, it seems Naza TTDI only has obligation to discharge the loan from Maybank. If they decide to invoke clause 2 and charge the land to some other bank, we may a headache. The lawyer did say not likely as another bank would know that the land would be charged to our own banks.

The wording of right of way is weird. It is for owners of adjoining land .. but we don't own the land of the roads (look at the lots that they subdivided) as they intend to transfer the roads to the local authorities. I would expect the line to more in a strata development (similar to Mah Sing's Garden Residence) but why here? Even the lawyer cannot explain.

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 22 2010, 04:09 PM)
Out of curiosity, regarding the right of way...is it only given to the buyers..or outside people (take ppl from sungai kandis for example) can use it also (example..playground)?
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To the Spira buyers and authority, I guess. The lawyer used the example that we have to give the right of way to government if they want to build something on free space next to our lot.


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Defect period is short @ 15 months but that is already in the offer letter as well.

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Probably, the house has been completed for more than 6 months. if you add that 6 months to 15 months warranty, then we got 21 months. Again I am naive in here:)

If something could go wrong within 18 months in another new development, it must go wrong in 12 months in our case as the houses have been there for 6 months already...

I guess it's only the rational explanation for their action...

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To the Spira buyers and authority, I guess. The lawyer used the example that we have to give the right of way to government if they want to build something on free space next to our lot.


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Probably, the house has been completed for more than 6 months. if you add that 6 months to 15 months warranty, then we got 21 months. Again I am naive in here:)

If something could go wrong within 18 months in another new development, it must go wrong in 12 months in our case as the houses have been there for 6 months already...

I guess it's only the rational explanation for their action...
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To be frank, if the houses are already ready for 6 months, why still not handed over from contractor to developer?
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 22 2010, 05:03 PM)
To be frank, if the houses are already ready for 6 months, why still not handed over from contractor to developer?
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That's the mystery:) I heard from comments posted in TTDI facebook that SPIRA was ready since March but road connecting to there was not ready. That's why the launch was delayed. And someone said there was a dispute between I&P and TTDI on land title and the delay was because of that. Not sure how true are those:)

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 22 2010, 07:59 PM)
That's the mystery:) I heard from comments posted in TTDI facebook that SPIRA was ready since March but road connecting to there was not ready. That's why the launch was delayed. And someone said there was a dispute between I&P and TTDI on land title and the delay was because of that. Not sure how true are those:)
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If there was/is a land title dispute, makes me worry about the individual title transfer.
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heard from Syed that we can get the key hopefully by end of Dec.. can't wait. hopefully loan disbursement will not a long time.
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To be very frank, loan disbursement is a bit iffy. Currently 2 things is not there - 1) stamped S&P, 2) individual title. Bank lawyer says that any processinig of loan agreement would depend on whether bank wants to wait or waive for the 2 items.




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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 22 2010, 04:09 PM)
Out of curiosity, regarding the right of way...is it only given to the buyers..or outside people (take ppl from sungai kandis for example) can use it also (example..playground)?
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good question...

i notice also the lake at the Alam Impian roundabout also being used by irresponsible public who use motorbike at the jogging track & also rubbish everywhere... i also saw cow dung and a lot of cows there during my previous visit....

Spira i saw the playground is inside the compound, should be OK i guess...
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Nov 23 2010, 01:16 PM)
good question...

i notice also the lake at the Alam Impian roundabout also being used by irresponsible public who use motorbike at the jogging track & also rubbish everywhere... i also saw cow dung and a lot of cows there during my previous visit....

Spira i saw the playground is inside the compound, should be OK i guess...
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Cow Dung? Is there any cattle around the area? hmm.gif
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Cow Dung? Is there any cattle around the area? hmm.gif
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yes i saw many cows coming from the back jalan kebun area... roaming freely
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yes i saw many cows coming from the back jalan kebun area... roaming freely
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haha i saw that too. but personally i think this is small issue. huhu smile.gif

and heard from the salesmen that the response for viola is very encouraging. about 600 peoples register their interest while only 110++ units available. and was informed that the launching will be around 1st week of dec. might seeing a lot of people 'sleeping' at the TTDI office again, i guess biggrin.gif

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In the SPA the postcode is written as 40460 ... however at the sign board in front of the spira houses it is written as 40470....even I&P houses the postcode is 40470...is this typo in the spa..should we notify the lawyer?

called naza..was informed 40460..that means the signboard in front of of our houses are wrong!!!!!!

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the road signs are wrong? :S
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Nov 23 2010, 04:47 PM)
haha i saw that too. but personally i think this is small issue. huhu   smile.gif

and heard from the salesmen that the response for viola is very encouraging. about 600 peoples register their interest while only 110++ units available. and was informed that the launching will be around 1st week of dec. might seeing a lot of people 'sleeping' at the TTDI office again, i guess  biggrin.gif
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Today, I saw a new posting of 22X70 SPIRA house in iproperty, asking for 580k. It seems like 580k is the starting price for sub-sale of SPIRA:)

Regarding Viola, I heard from a colleague who went to TTDI booth in the star property fair that 480k is for 22X80. Getting mixed signals in pricing of Viola:)

According to TTDI sales lady, the pricing could be out 2 weeks before the launching date. The pricing of Viola should be out by now if 1st week of Dec is true for launching date....

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 23 2010, 05:21 PM)
Today, I saw a new posting of 22X70 SPIRA house in iproperty, asking for 580k. It seems like 580k is the starting price for sub-sale of SPIRA:)

Regarding Viola, I heard from a colleague who went to TTDI booth in the star property fair that 480k is for 22X80. Getting mixed signals in pricing of Viola:)

According to TTDI sales lady, the pricing could be out 2 weeks before the launching date. The pricing of Viola should be out by now if 1st week of Dec is true for launching date....
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weird for subsale to be 580k when you can get a bigger viola for 100k cheaper....
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got rental?
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Some of us might want to rent out our houses in Spira but the real question in here is that who wants to rent them. Currently, Spira is in the middle of nowhere and it will take a few years to have all amenities.


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weird for subsale to be 580k when you can get a bigger viola for 100k cheaper....
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It is actually happening in our own backyard, I&P AI. Canting sub-sale is 550k while the last launch is 495k for a bigger BU. Probably, the reason is that you need to wait 1-2 years to get your house if you buy it from the developer launch.


Regarding SPA, is there anything we can do? It seems like SPA given to us is standard. I saw many owners signed them when i was in TTDI last saturday, I don't think they will modify it even if we ask them to. And according to the letter, we sign it within 14 working days or we lose 10k:) Not much choice for us I guess.....

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 24 2010, 07:47 AM)
Regarding SPA, is there anything we can do? It seems like SPA given to us is standard. I saw many owners signed them when i was in TTDI last saturday, I don't think they will modify it even if we ask them to. And according to the letter, we sign it within 14 working days or we lose 10k:) Not much choice for us I guess.....
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Exactly. Actually it was unfair to make us sign that offer letter without seeing the house or SPA. Now we can only grill the lawyer. But they won't change the clauses in the main SPA.
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QUOTE(zenquix @ Nov 24 2010, 08:53 AM)
Exactly. Actually it was unfair to make us sign that offer letter without seeing the house or SPA. Now we can only grill the lawyer. But they won't change the clauses in the main SPA.
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Ok, then..no choice but to accept it since i don't want to lose my deposit 10k:). I will sign SPA this Saturday:). Just got the loan approved.

Anyone had the chance to go inside the house to inspect?

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 24 2010, 09:02 AM)
Ok, then..no choice but to accept it since i don't want to lose my deposit 10k:). I will sign SPA this Saturday:). Just got the loan approved.

Anyone had the chance to go inside the house to inspect?
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i signed mine on tuesday.. smile.gif

i will say, don't worry about the "as is where is" term.
there is a warranty clause to cover any construction defects.

Best of all, if they fail to repair the defects within a stipulated timefrace, we can use our own contractors for the repairs.
You don't see this often with other projects ( where you can use your own contractors )
WIth our own contractors, and there will be possibilities where the workmanship might be better.

btw, did you know that they repainted the house (external only) for the second time in preparation for the handover ?
if they are some corny/quickbuck developers, i dont think this will have happened.

i manage to sneak into the house for a-not-so-quick inspection a couple of times,
someone conveniently left the back door unlock.
Workmanship is there, toilets are nice, tiling is nice, paint is ok, however there are a couple of very minor defects whcih won't give me sleepless nights
Prob will just forego the claims (saves me the headache and effort) and fix it myself thru the renovations or etc because it is that small of a problem.

and speaking of unfairness...
it happened the moment you book the unit with a non-refundable 10k deposit.. smile.gif
we were told, and yet we commited.. willing buyer willing seller i suppose..
it's a gamble which i took and luckily, it turns out be ok...




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QUOTE(narayan @ Nov 24 2010, 03:04 PM)
i signed mine on tuesday.. smile.gif

i will say, don't worry about the "as is where is" term.
there is a warranty clause to cover any construction defects.

Best of all, if they fail to repair the defects within a stipulated timefrace, we can use our own contractors for the repairs.
You don't see this often with other projects ( where you can use your own contractors )
WIth our own contractors, and there will be possibilities where the workmanship might be better.

btw, did you know that they repainted the house (external only) for the second time in preparation for the handover ?
if they are some corny/quickbuck developers, i dont think this will have happened.

i manage to sneak into the house for a-not-so-quick inspection a couple of times,
someone conveniently left the back door unlock.
Workmanship is there, toilets are nice, tiling is nice, paint is ok, however there are a couple of very minor defects whcih won't give me sleepless nights
Prob will just forego the claims (saves me the headache and effort) and fix it myself thru the renovations or etc because it is that small of a problem.

and speaking of unfairness...
it happened the moment you book the unit with a non-refundable 10k deposit.. smile.gif
we were told, and yet we commited.. willing buyer willing seller i suppose..
it's a gamble which i took and luckily, it turns out be ok...
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wah lucky u!.

but can we know what is the 'very minor defect' which u mentioned.
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we were told, and yet we commited.. willing buyer willing seller i suppose..
it's a gamble which i took and luckily, it turns out be ok...
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Actually, i think none of the lawyers were forthcoming that we are signing our rights away. It was more of "This is a standard offer letter, where you make an offer to TTDI to buy the house and your 10k as earnest deposit".

Had it been clear that i cannot enter the house before or even after signing the SPA, and the fact that we have no recourse to view the house or review the SPA, we would have demanded to see the two items before we sign on the letter.

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i will say, don't worry about the "as is where is" term.
there is a warranty clause to cover any construction defects.

Best of all, if they fail to repair the defects within a stipulated timefrace, we can use our own contractors for the repairs.
You don't see this often with other projects ( where you can use your own contractors )
WIth our own contractors, and there will be possibilities where the workmanship might be better.
I agree that the defect liability period helps allay fears a bit. But then more worried that the reimbursement claim part will be messy.

Timeline:

Report + 30 days + 14 days buffer with alternate quotation + |----work done----| + 21 days (if all supporting proof is provided)

Suggest anyone taking the reimbursement route to take lots and lots of pictures.

Even from the external inspection I already see crooked mailboxes, rusting gates...

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I agree that the defect liability period helps allay fears a bit. But then more worried that the reimbursement claim part will be messy.

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Added on November 25, 2010, 9:20 amHi all,

During the signing of the SPA, we just need to pay the 10% purchase price-the 10k booking rite? .... No other fees like lawyer disbursement etc right?

We need to pay the disbursement and stamping fees later right? Anyone know when?

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 24 2010, 04:00 PM)
Yeps... most businesses ultra reluctant to reimburse customer  tongue.gif


Added on November 25, 2010, 9:20 amHi all,

During the signing of the SPA, we just need to pay the 10% purchase price-the 10k booking rite? .... No other fees like lawyer disbursement etc right?

We need to pay the disbursement and stamping fees later right? Anyone know when?
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When you sign SPA, you need to pay (10% of house price - 10k) and disbursement fee. I got confirmed with lawyer. Disbursement fee is about 400.

TTDI only offer SPA legal fees. That's what I understand...
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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 25 2010, 09:27 AM)
When you sign SPA, you need to pay (10% of house price  - 10k)  and disbursement fee. I got confirmed with lawyer. Disbursement fee is about 400.

TTDI only offer SPA legal fees. That's what I understand...
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Ic...is the disbursement fee to be paid by cash? I have prepared a bank draft for the balance downpayment (10% of house price - 10k), but not the disbursement fee .....

I thought that the lawyer will send us an invoice later? Not at the time we go and sign spa right?

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QUOTE(naing @ Nov 25 2010, 09:27 AM)
When you sign SPA, you need to pay (10% of house price  - 10k)  and disbursement fee. I got confirmed with lawyer. Disbursement fee is about 400.

TTDI only offer SPA legal fees. That's what I understand...
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 25 2010, 09:34 AM)
Ic...is the disbursement fee to be paid by cash? I have prepared a bank draft for the balance downpayment (10% of house price  - 10k), but not the disbursement fee .....
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Yes disbursement can be paid by cash.

What I was told is
1 name = RM350
2 name = RM400
Company = RM400
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Yes disbursement can be paid by cash.

What I was told is
1 name = RM350
2 name = RM400
Company = RM400
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Ic ic.... this is a new info for me...

So when I go to sign the snp I must bring:

1) balance downpayment in bank draft for TTDI Land Sdn Bhd amounting to 10% house price-10k booking
2) Cash rm 350 or 400 to pay the lawyer

Anything else? Please advise..thanks!

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Nov 25 2010, 09:44 AM)
Ic ic.... this is a new info for me...

So when I go to sign the snp I must bring:

1) balance downpayment in bank draft for TTDI Land Sdn Bhd amounting to 10% house price-10k booking
2) Cash rm 350 or 400 to pay the lawyer

Anything else? Please advise..thanks!
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That's all you need for signing SPA. I asked the lawyer and she confirmed it to me...
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wah lucky u!.

but can we know what is the 'very minor defect' which u mentioned.
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- minor water seepage on one of the window frames in master bedroom / look for signs of green mole/algae
- laminate floor finishing around one of the door frames / misaligned
- and rusty iron gates biggrin.gif

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and oh, btw... hello fellow neighbours..

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- minor water seepage on one of the window frames in master bedroom / look for signs of green mole/algae
- laminate floor finishing around one of the door frames / misaligned
- and rusty iron gates  biggrin.gif

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and oh, btw... hello fellow neighbours..
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haluuu tongue.gif ..

Do you think we can furnish the house (grill & plaster ceiling) concurrently with the defect works together or wait after the rectification works done?
it will add some time before moving in... sweat.gif


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QUOTE(narayan @ Nov 25 2010, 01:56 PM)
- minor water seepage on one of the window frames in master bedroom / look for signs of green mole/algae
- laminate floor finishing around one of the door frames / misaligned
- and rusty iron gates  biggrin.gif

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and oh, btw... hello fellow neighbours..
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hello.

good to see more and more TTDIans coming to the forums. hope we can build a good neighborhood


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That's all you need for signing SPA. I asked the lawyer and she confirmed it to me...
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Thanks for the info Naing.... smile.gif


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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Nov 25 2010, 02:24 PM)
haluuu  tongue.gif  ..

Do you think we can furnish the house (grill & plaster ceiling) concurrently with the defect works together or wait after the rectification works done?
it will add some time before moving in...  sweat.gif
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I don't think they will let u do it that way. If defect is small, don't bother asking them to fix:)

What kind of grill are you thinking? I'm worry that it will spoil the appearance of the house.
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I don't think they will let u do it that way. If defect is small, don't bother asking them to fix:)

What kind of grill are you thinking? I'm worry that it will spoil the appearance of the house.
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thats the prob rclxub.gif ... maybe simple and modern ... horizontal grill type design... u can go to ttdi laman seri to see overall picture biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Nov 26 2010, 10:50 AM)
thats the prob  rclxub.gif ... maybe simple and modern  ... horizontal grill type design... u can go to ttdi laman seri to see overall picture biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the grill tips:)
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i went over to alam impian yesterday. not bad the concept, though spira is abit deep inside compare to some I&P release. nevertheless, from the outlook, it caught my attention.

so i've registered for viola. hopefully can get a unit when it's released.

btw, i heard some ppl say this AI is close to some mill and coke factories?
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Nov 28 2010, 03:18 PM)
i went over to alam impian yesterday. not bad the concept, though spira is abit deep inside compare to some I&P release. nevertheless, from the outlook, it caught my attention.

so i've registered for viola. hopefully can get a unit when it's released.

btw, i heard some ppl say this AI is close to some mill and coke factories?
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I had the same feeling for the location of spira but fire/police station & commercial area of the whole AI is closer to Spira according to master plan of AI.

I saw many factories next to I&P AI but only plantations around Spira. You could check it in google map.

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I went there to check last weekend..
there is a factory behind spira... which releasing white smoke.. mill.. and telecom tower at one end...

a lot lorries being moving in n out behind spira..


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serious? factory just behind spira? gosh, must be smokey then...

i didnt see the factory cause i went there last night last time...

hmm, wonder if it's a good place to stay..since it's not investment for me, more like for staying with my family
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QUOTE(lock_82 @ Nov 29 2010, 11:09 PM)
I went there to check last weekend..
there is a factory behind spira... which releasing white smoke.. mill.. and telecom tower at one end...

a lot lorries being moving in n out behind spira..
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I don't see any factory next to/behind Spira. All I see is plantation. Saw one factory nearby spira from google map but it's at least 500 m away. The road behind spira actually goes inside ttdi alam impian so the trucks u see maybe construction trucks?

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Got this from Nazattdi.

You are cordially invited to view our property showcase at TTDI Alam Impian, Shah Alam.


Only limited units are available. The details are as follows:


Lot No Size Property address Type Land area(sf) Built-up area(sf) Non-Bumi Price Bumi Price
1. 111 24’x75’ 51, Jln Panglima Awang 35/119 Intermediate 1,798 2,414 RM553,000 RM514,290

2. 127 22’x75’ 19, Jln Panglima Awang 35/119 Intermediate 1,647 2,191 RM497,000 RM462,210


Showunit open for Sale – Including Furniture and Fittings.

3. 25 22’X70’ 22, Jln Panglima Awang 35/121 Intermediate 1,539 1,979 RM641,000 RM608,730


Our best units have been released by the company director.

· Best location fronting south/ kid’s playground.
· Selling price as launching price.
· Completed and CF ready .
· Security, gated & guarded will be provided for 2 years.
· FREEHOLD.

Show units are open from Monday to Saturday, 9am to 5pm.

Booking procedure:

· First Come First Serve Basis.
· Only BANK DRAFT is accepted, TTDI LAND SDN. BHD.
· Booking Fees RM 10,000.
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 1 2010, 10:11 AM)
Got this from Nazattdi.

You are cordially invited to view our property showcase at TTDI Alam Impian, Shah Alam.


Only limited units are available.  The details are as follows:

                       
Lot No        Size          Property address                                  Type                  Land area(sf)      Built-up area(sf)      Non-Bumi Price    Bumi Price
1.  111      24’x75’        51, Jln Panglima Awang 35/119        Intermediate          1,798                      2,414                        RM553,000      RM514,290

2.  127      22’x75’        19, Jln Panglima Awang 35/119        Intermediate          1,647                      2,191                        RM497,000      RM462,210


Showunit open for Sale – Including Furniture and Fittings.

3.    25      22’X70’        22, Jln Panglima Awang 35/121        Intermediate          1,539                      1,979                        RM641,000      RM608,730


Our best units have been released by the company director.

·        Best location fronting south/ kid’s playground.
·        Selling price as launching price.
·        Completed and CF ready .
·        Security, gated & guarded will be provided for 2 years.
·        FREEHOLD.

Show units are open from Monday to Saturday, 9am to 5pm.

Booking procedure:

·        First Come First Serve Basis.
·        Only BANK DRAFT is accepted, TTDI LAND SDN. BHD.
·        Booking Fees RM 10,000.
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By email? Looks like someone cannot get loan after the 30% rule. Really dislike the "Our best units have been released by the company director."

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yea...the 70% loan really handicapped alot of midrange income people, like me for example...

yea, i got it from email.
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yea...the 70% loan really handicapped alot of midrange income people, like me for example...

yea, i got it from email.
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Ttdi has been releasing Spira like that quite a while. That's how I got my house 2 months after launch. The actual reason behind is not clear. Maybe ttdi marketing strategy to hold houses to make the launch sold out quickly. Then that's cruel to buyer at launch. Or loan problem. I was told that the first buyer of my house could not get loan. One person's loss is another's gain, I guess!

Just came back from Spira today. Guard house is almost complete. Cleaning & painting crew are polishing our houses. I went into my lot & found that one window was unlocked:) had a chance to check inside my house. I am quite happy with what I see inside. Took a lot of photos. Maybe I will post them for you guys later.

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 1 2010, 03:26 PM)
Ttdi has been releasing Spira like that quite a while. That's how I got my house 2 months after launch. The actual reason behind is not clear. Maybe ttdi marketing strategy to hold houses to make the launch sold out quickly. Then that's cruel to buyer at launch. Or loan problem. I was told that the first buyer of my house could not get loan. One person's loss is another's gain, I guess!

Just came back from Spira today. Guard house is almost complete. Cleaning & painting crew are polishing our houses. I went into my lot & found that one window was unlocked:) had a chance to check inside my house. I am quite happy with what I see inside. Took a lot of photos. Maybe I will post them for you guys later.
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Hi Naing, good to hear that you able to check your house and happy with it. Guard house almost completed? How about the anti-climb fencing?
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 1 2010, 03:26 PM)
Ttdi has been releasing Spira like that quite a while. That's how I got my house 2 months after launch. The actual reason behind is not clear. Maybe ttdi marketing strategy to hold houses to make the launch sold out quickly. Then that's cruel to buyer at launch. Or loan problem. I was told that the first buyer of my house could not get loan. One person's loss is another's gain, I guess!

Just came back from Spira today. Guard house is almost complete. Cleaning & painting crew are polishing our houses. I went into my lot & found that one window was unlocked:) had a chance to check inside my house. I am quite happy with what I see inside. Took a lot of photos. Maybe I will post them for you guys later.
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Please shares some pictures with us.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 1 2010, 03:26 PM)
Ttdi has been releasing Spira like that quite a while. That's how I got my house 2 months after launch. The actual reason behind is not clear. Maybe ttdi marketing strategy to hold houses to make the launch sold out quickly. Then that's cruel to buyer at launch. Or loan problem. I was told that the first buyer of my house could not get loan. One person's loss is another's gain, I guess!

Just came back from Spira today. Guard house is almost complete. Cleaning & painting crew are polishing our houses. I went into my lot & found that one window was unlocked:) had a chance to check inside my house. I am quite happy with what I see inside. Took a lot of photos. Maybe I will post them for you guys later.
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i've jst heard from my friend that bank has been practising the 70% loan alridi, way before bank negara announce it earlier. so i guess end result is the same even few months back.

by the way, is the finishing good? i heard some ppl say I&P finishing better...i really wanna get my hands on the Viola launching soon
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Please shares some pictures with us..  rclxms.gif
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Here are some photos of my house. It's 24X70. I took these photos for my reference for the renovation, it may not reflect the actual beauty of the house:)

The living room-taken it from the entrance door
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The ceiling - it's quite ok. not going to do plaster ceiling. my renovation budget is very tight.smile.gif
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The tiles of ground floor - Ok again for me.
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The dining hall and AV room - taken from the entrance door..
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The stair way to first floor...
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The quality of wood from the stair way...no idea whether it is good or bad.. you guys judge it..
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The store room next to the stair way...
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AV room photo
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The dining hall and living room - taken from AV room...
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Toilet from AV room - the same design and material are used for all bathrooms except bathroom from master bedroom...
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Shower from AV room
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The dining hall and AV room - taken from the entrance door..
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The stair way to first floor...
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The quality of wood from the stair way...no idea whether it is good or bad.. you guys judge it..
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The store room next to the stair way...
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thumbup.gif looks nice.

even the store under the stairs looks spacious nod.gif
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Kitchen..nothing there..need to spend at least 10k in there.
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The yard next to kitchen - it can be easily changed into wet kitchen...
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Kitchen..nothing there..need to spend at least 10k in there.
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The yard next to kitchen - it can be easily changed into wet kitchen...
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So u have got your keys? Just in time for renovation ....

Basically any square design is easy for renovation/extension. Nice house. nod.gif


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So u have got your keys? Just in time for renovation ....

Basically any square design is easy for renovation/extension. Nice house.  nod.gif
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No...haven't got anything.. just sneak in the house from an unlocked window:) We just signed SPA so it will take at least 2 months to get the key, i guess. The banker told me that it would take 1-2 months to release the money to developer.

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first floor - family space...
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Bedroom 1 and 2 ...
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Bedroom 2...
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Master bedroom - taken from the door..
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MB -taken from one end
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MB-taken from another end
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MB- toilet...
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MB - shower ...I love the skylight and pebbles in the bathroom....
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For those who wants to have veranda, you could climb out of master bedroom window and enjoy your time out there:)
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Did i say the guard house was almost completed.. maybe a little exaggerated:)
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Although I don't want to do any major renovation for the house, I guess at least i need to spend on.....
1) Iron grills and Curtain for all doors and windows (10k?)
2) Kitchen cabinet and equipments (10k?)
3) Furniture (10k?)


I don't see any works on Anti-climbing fence. Maybe it will come later as we just finished signing SPA....

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 2 2010, 10:24 AM)
Did i say the guard house was almost completed.. maybe a little exaggerated:)

Although I don't want to do any major renovation for the house, I guess at least i need to spend on.....
1) Iron grills and Curtain for all doors and windows (10k?)
2) Kitchen cabinet and equipments (10k?)
3) Furniture (10k?)
I don't see any works on Anti-climbing fence. Maybe it will come later as we just finished signing SPA....
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if you choose mild iron for gril and curtain instead of blind, 10k should be enug.
Ur kitchen is bigger, if you plan to do U shape cabinet (full height)+top+equipment, then 10k should hard to get it.
Furnitures for living+dining+MB i think 10K can only get those cheap and low quality 1.

I just wondering what kind of anti-fencing and Guard house access system they are builting. thinnking of they going to have any card access system for the guard house entry.
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 2 2010, 11:00 AM)
I just wondering what kind of anti-fencing and Guard house access system they are builting. thinnking of they going to have any card access system for the guard house entry.
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Heard from someone that it will be 6-ft high metal anti-climb fencing. I would prefer brick wall as perimeter fencing for maintenance reason but it would probably block our houses' back side view. For guard house system, i have no idea. I guess it will be like in any other places, guards waving hands and letting in every car:)
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Im truly impressed nod.gif

y there is pebbles in the shower?
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wow, looks good to me so far...but have to zoom in to have a clearer look on the actual finishing la...

i wonder if those wood floor material used for the bedroom are good ones or not..
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QUOTE(bainadia @ Aug 23 2010, 03:27 AM)
Hello, I have one lot type B in ttdi alam impian. Anybody interested...
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still available ?how much ?
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post Dec 2 2010, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 2 2010, 12:58 PM)
wow, looks good to me so far...but have to zoom in to have a clearer look on the actual finishing la...

i wonder if those wood floor material used for the bedroom are good ones or not..
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zoom? go to see better... pic is 2D u cant judge much...
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 2 2010, 12:58 PM)
wow, looks good to me so far...but have to zoom in to have a clearer look on the actual finishing la...

i wonder if those wood floor material used for the bedroom are good ones or not..
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The close-up of timber floor in first floor....
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 2 2010, 02:39 PM)
The close-up of timber floor in first floor....
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Wah..you all very interested in these housing aa??..for spira i went there every 2 weeks (not my project) and for viola i know almost all about the building;) anything you buyer want me to do your house tell me rite now before its completed cool2.gif
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
Wah..you all very interested in these housing aa??..for spira i went there every 2 weeks (not my project) and for viola i know almost all about the building;) anything you buyer want me to do your house tell me rite now before its completed cool2.gif
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not quite understand what u trying to say. Why u so familiar with Viola?
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
Wah..you all very interested in these housing aa??..for spira i went there every 2 weeks (not my project) and for viola i know almost all about the building;) anything you buyer want me to do your house tell me rite now before its completed cool2.gif
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Are you like some kinda contractor or something? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
Wah..you all very interested in these housing aa??..for spira i went there every 2 weeks (not my project) and for viola i know almost all about the building;) anything you buyer want me to do your house tell me rite now before its completed cool2.gif
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Hi Sonic,

Are you saying that I can complain the SPIRA defects to you and you will settle them before the handing of the keys to buyers?

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post Dec 4 2010, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 4 2010, 12:14 AM)
Hi Sonic,

Are you saying that I can complain the SPIRA defects to you and you will settle them before the handing of the keys to buyers?

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For spira i could not do a thing abt that..however for viola i'm the architect..smile.gif
anything you need to know about another phase i think i can answer..except for purchasing, loan bla..bla..bla..


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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 4 2010, 12:14 AM)
Hi Sonic,

Are you saying that I can complain the SPIRA defects to you and you will settle them before the handing of the keys to buyers?

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For defect in spira i dont know how TTDI manage with purchaser since the contractor Defect liability period will only last for few months++..if they handing over to you early, make sure you test everything in the house..so they can call the contractor to rectify immediately..the first phase usually the lucky one since they will 'layan' you guys like a king.

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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 4 2010, 02:20 AM)
For spira i could not do a thing abt that..however for viola i'm the architect..smile.gif
anything you need to know about another phase i think i can answer..except for purchasing, loan bla..bla..bla..
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Well, we have a ttdi AI insider now:). We could ask u whatever we want to Know regarding design.

What are the major differences between Spira & Viola in design? From picture, I could see that master bedroom window/door might lead to veranda. And when is the expected completion date for viola? I saw it progressing very fast.

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just went over again to the site last weekend. my 2nd visit. few things that surprise me (comparing to I&P).

DESIGN
From pic, spira designs look more classy and nice compare to the I&P.
From actual site, i find out that spira actual finishing design not at nice as I&P (but that is me).

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my first visit at night, both are the same to me. One is right turn and the other one is left turn from the roundabout. But my 2nd visit disappointed abit on spira. It was 4pm on Sat and the smoke smell from the factory behind is very STRONG. yeap, the TAR factory. I asked the guard and he say depending on the wind and luck, at times you will be smelling those smokes (whitish in color). I've taken the pics and will upload it later.

I dunno if these smoke is hazardous, but I do know it's a tar factory.

VIOLA is launching this weekend starting from 450k.. At first I thought of buying one for my own stay, but now having a second thought purely because of the smoke. I can accept on the design but the smoke might prove to be unhealthy in long run.

I chk with I&P and they are launching new houses next year in Jan/Feb 2011. But startin price should be 600k onwards.

Sigh......
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 6 2010, 09:14 AM)
just went over again to the site last weekend. my 2nd visit. few things that surprise me (comparing to I&P).

DESIGN
From pic, spira designs look more classy and nice compare to the I&P.
From actual site, i find out that spira actual finishing design not at nice as I&P (but that is me).

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my first visit at night, both are the same to me. One is right turn and the other one is left turn from the roundabout. But my 2nd visit disappointed abit on spira. It was 4pm on Sat and the smoke smell from the factory behind is very STRONG. yeap, the TAR factory. I asked the guard and he say depending on the wind and luck, at times you will be smelling those smokes (whitish in color). I've taken the pics and will upload it later.

I dunno if these smoke is hazardous, but I do know it's a tar factory.

VIOLA is launching this weekend starting from 450k.. At first I thought of buying one for my own stay, but now having a second thought purely because of the smoke. I can accept on the design but the smoke might prove to be unhealthy in long run.

I chk with I&P and they are launching new houses next year in Jan/Feb 2011. But startin price should be 600k onwards.

Sigh......
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thanks for the info. where is this factory actually?.. from google map, seems not a near distance to spira (not sure if google map is not updated for this area)

seems Viola pricing is getting down ya?. heard from the saleslady that 20 x 80 is starting at RM431k now. Hmm does that mean we'll getting low appreciation for Spira?. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 6 2010, 12:26 PM)
thanks for the info. where is this factory actually?.. from google map, seems not a near distance to spira (not sure if google map is not updated for this area)

seems Viola pricing is getting down ya?. heard from the saleslady that 20 x 80 is starting at RM431k now. Hmm does that mean we'll getting low appreciation for Spira?.  sweat.gif
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i am suspecting the factory producing smoke is this 1 (pls see the photo)
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 6 2010, 12:26 PM)
thanks for the info. where is this factory actually?.. from google map, seems not a near distance to spira (not sure if google map is not updated for this area)

seems Viola pricing is getting down ya?. heard from the saleslady that 20 x 80 is starting at RM431k now. Hmm does that mean we'll getting low appreciation for Spira?.   sweat.gif
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well, dont think it's a good place for investment, considering it's been 4 years since Alam Impian started...but it's definately a good place to stay for it's greenery and design...

i chk wit that salesguy last weekend onli...and rm450k onwards is for 20x70.....


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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 6 2010, 01:50 PM)
i am suspecting the factory producing smoke is this 1 (pls see the photo)
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yeap, u r right. that's the one. it's actually quite far away....

my first time going there, i cant smell any...but last weekend the factory actively working even though it's sat evening and the wind direction blowing, gosh...even at viola phase, you will sure smell it.

so not sure if those smoke is hazardous..if it's not, i think still worth while to buy for own staying.

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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 6 2010, 03:00 PM)

my first time going there, i cant smell any...but last weekend the factory actively working even though it's sat evening and the wind direction blowing, gosh...even at viola phase, you will sure smell it.

so not sure if those smoke is hazardous..if it's not, i think still worth while to buy for own staying.
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I noticed that factory from google map but never saw smoke and smell them even if i went to Spira many times. Hopefully, the smell and smoke is just for the time the wind is blowing directly to the housing.


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i chk with the guard at the show room...he told me depending on luck...sometimes wind blows in right direction and the smoke is heavy, then you will be smelling it and there's nothing to do about it.

only thing to check now is that whether the smoke made of tar processing is harzadazous or not.
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 6 2010, 05:00 PM)
i chk with the guard at the show room...he told me depending on luck...sometimes wind blows in right direction and the smoke is heavy, then you will be smelling it and there's nothing to do about it.

only thing to check now is that whether the smoke made of tar processing is harzadazous or not.
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It's hazardous to stay close to a asphalt plant. Feeling upset about it now. Should have checked the status of the factory before. Now too late. Some of bungalows & semi-da from I&P AI will be near to that factory too. hopefully, the factory will be relocated in the near future. Just a wishful thinking.

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 6 2010, 08:43 PM)
It's hazardous to stay close to a asphalt plant. Feeling upset about it now. Should have checked the status of the factory before. Now too late. Some of bungalows & semi-da from I&P AI will be near to that factory too. hopefully, the factory will be relocated in the near future. Just a wishful thinking.
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Is the whole Spira gonna feel the effects of the hazardous smoke from the factory? is really that bad? sad.gif
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QUOTE(streetkid @ Dec 7 2010, 01:11 AM)
Is the whole Spira gonna feel the effects of the hazardous smoke from the factory? is really that bad? sad.gif
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From what I see from google, I guess it is a asphalt mixing plant. Fumes come out from it has similar effect as truck exhaust fumes. Many studies about it are on google. Maybe it is there for building LKSA & alam impian asphalt roads & relocate to somewhere afterward. They need to be near to the highway or roads they are building.
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 7 2010, 08:53 AM)
From what I see from google, I guess it is a asphalt mixing plant. Fumes come out from it has similar effect as truck exhaust fumes. Many studies about it are on google. Maybe it is there for building LKSA & alam impian asphalt roads & relocate to somewhere afterward. They need to be near to the highway or roads they are building.
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Ya I believe the factory will not be permanent. Usually asphalt factories are not permanent (some of them even designed to be mobile).

I've seen the smoke but like Naing, I didn't smell the smoke....I was at Alam Impian also last saturday around 5 p.m...Since Luckykid mentioned he was there around 4pm when he noticed the smell.. I guess the smell didnt last long..

I bought the house knowing about the factory, telecommunication tower, pylons and its secluded location. I chosed TTDI Alam Impian as it is still in my opinion the best compared to others in the same price range (this is after at least 1 year of research). rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 7 2010, 10:51 AM)
Ya I believe the factory will not be permanent. Usually asphalt factories are not permanent (some of them even designed to be mobile).

I've seen the smoke but like Naing, I didn't smell the smoke....I was at Alam Impian also last saturday around 5 p.m...Since Luckykid mentioned he was there around 4pm when he noticed the smell.. I guess the smell didnt last long..

I bought the house knowing about the factory, telecommunication tower, pylons and its secluded location. I chosed TTDI Alam Impian as it is still in my opinion the best compared to others in the same price range (this is after at least 1 year of research).  rclxms.gif
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any idea the soonest we can get the key?
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 7 2010, 10:51 AM)
Ya I believe the factory will not be permanent. Usually asphalt factories are not permanent (some of them even designed to be mobile).

I've seen the smoke but like Naing, I didn't smell the smoke....I was at Alam Impian also last saturday around 5 p.m...Since Luckykid mentioned he was there around 4pm when he noticed the smell.. I guess the smell didnt last long..

I bought the house knowing about the factory, telecommunication tower, pylons and its secluded location. I chosed TTDI Alam Impian as it is still in my opinion the best compared to others in the same price range (this is after at least 1 year of research).  rclxms.gif
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Went to Spira to check the plant. Saw a few people inside the compound but no smoke & smell. Seem like the smoke & smell is actually avoiding me as I have been there more than 10 times:) I will not be worry too much about it as it doesn't seem to be working continuous. One more thing to worry for buyers who are serious about feng shui. Next to asphalt plant is a malay cementary. But it at least 500 m away from Spira.

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 7 2010, 08:29 PM)
Went to Spira to check the plant. Saw a few people inside the compound but no smoke & smell. Seem like the smoke & smell is actually avoiding me as I have been there more than 10 times:) I will not be worry too much about it as it doesn't seem to be working continuous. One more thing to worry for buyers who are serious about feng shui. Next to asphalt plant is a malay cementary. But it at least 500 m away from Spira.
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shocking.gif Seriously? Where is it to be exact?
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QUOTE(streetkid @ Dec 8 2010, 01:24 AM)
shocking.gif Seriously? Where is it to be exact?
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You can check it from google map. You know where
Tar factory is. There is empty land next to tar factory with a tar road leading to nowhere. That's the cementary.

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 8 2010, 08:51 AM)
You can check it from google map. You know where
Tar factory is. There is empty land next to tar factory with a tar road leading to nowhere. That's the cementary.
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erm, half KM from cemetery is not an issue, i think. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 8 2010, 09:39 AM)
erm, half KM from cemetery is not an issue, i think.  biggrin.gif
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For health hazardousness, the effect will be minimum as it is quite far away from Spira.
For visual impact, you won't see it if you purposely go and see it. It's deep inside. At least a few buildings and factory will be between Spira and the cemetery. The entrance of it is connected to the road leading to other side.

For me, I don't mind it at all. I am more upset with asphalt mixing plant than the cemetery:)

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Just went to check out TTDI Alam Impian yesterday. Seems like need to pay RM0.60 toll whenever you get in or get out of Alam Impian.
I&P's development is closer to the exit of Alam Impian and TTDI's is a bit further away (around 2km after the 1st roundabout, turning 3 o'clock direction).

I'm not too sure if this is a good investment as the new upcoming township, but for people who preferred to be away from the city, it would be a good choice. No offense to buyers who have bought their properties there though.
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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Dec 8 2010, 10:48 AM)
Just went to check out TTDI Alam Impian yesterday. Seems like need to pay RM0.60 toll whenever you get in or get out of Alam Impian.
I&P's development is closer to the exit of Alam Impian and TTDI's is a bit further away (around 2km after the 1st roundabout, turning 3 o'clock direction).

I'm not too sure if this is a good investment as the new upcoming township, but for people who preferred to be away from the city, it would be a good choice. No offense to buyers who have bought their properties there though.
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For investment purposes, you must aim for capital appreciation...

In 2006 Canting terrace by I&P sold starting at RM325k...
The latest Canting phase launched in 2010 sold starting at RM 495,888
I'm pretty sure the near upcoming launch will demand at least 520k

for Tinta Semi-d ..2006 from 552k to 795k....now at least 850k..some demanded 1.5M now icon_rolleyes.gif


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Yup ure rite. The RM750k I&P unit is now RM1.4 -1.5m
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actually cemetery is not important...important is the factory smoke gas...

if it's confirmed hazardous, then it will be not good for those children or housewives that staying at home..for those of us working, and only will be back at home at night or stay home during weekend, then not so bad.

anyhow, depending on your luck. sometimes you smell it, sometimes u dont. can easily chk with those guards in spira and they will tell u.

and for I&P, i heard next launching is RM600k onwards.

Initially i'm aiming Viola, which is launching this Sunday, since starting price only RM450k. but seeing the smoke, i have to pull myself back and aim for the higher end I&P launching instead.

sigh...

anyhow, good luck to those who have purchase the spira. smoke aside, it's a good buy.
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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Dec 8 2010, 09:56 PM)
actually cemetery is not important...important is the factory smoke gas...

if it's confirmed hazardous, then it will be not good for those children or housewives that staying at home..for those of us working, and only will be back at home at night or stay home during weekend, then not so bad.

anyhow, depending on your luck. sometimes you smell it, sometimes u dont. can easily chk with those guards in spira and they will tell u.

and for I&P, i heard next launching is RM600k onwards.

Initially i'm aiming Viola, which is launching this Sunday, since starting price only RM450k. but seeing the smoke, i have to pull myself back and aim for the higher end I&P launching instead.

sigh...

anyhow, good luck to those who have purchase the spira. smoke aside, it's a good buy.
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I would say I&P houses are better in terms of design and location within the Alam Impian township.
I still can see there are some semi-ds selling at around 1 mio+ in I&P Alam Impian.

For those who are interested in Alam Impian (and do not mind about the RM0.60 toll going in and coming out of Alam Impian), can consider I&P development instead of TTDI. Just my 2 cents~
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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Dec 9 2010, 11:09 AM)
I would say I&P houses are better in terms of design and location within the Alam Impian township.
I still can see there are some semi-ds selling at around 1 mio+ in I&P Alam Impian.

For those who are interested in Alam Impian (and do not mind about the RM0.60 toll going in and coming out of Alam Impian), can consider I&P development instead of TTDI. Just my 2 cents~
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There are 3 entry/exit points to/from Alam Impian.

LKSA highway (beside Tinta I&P) 60 cent
Jalan Kebun - free
Sungai Kandis -free (beside SPIRA TTDI)

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I received msg from TTDI Alam Impian soft lauch this Sunday.

Price start from RM431k.

A big set back for me is a toll. I had to set aside RM150 permonth just for toll because I work at Puchong
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any info on the house layout etc ?
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ready for RM10k deposit this Sunday!
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 9 2010, 11:24 AM)
There are 3 entry/exit points to/from Alam Impian.

LKSA highway (beside Tinta I&P) 60 cent
Jalan Kebun - free
Sungai Kandis -free (beside SPIRA TTDI)
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If these exit points roads are well-repaired, it would be better.
I saw the Sungai Kandis exit next to Spira. Hmm... seems like "Jalan batu-bata" (not proper road).

Good luck to those who is going to buy Viola this weekend~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Dec 9 2010, 12:01 PM)
If these exit points roads are well-repaired, it would be better.
I saw the Sungai Kandis exit next to Spira. Hmm... seems like "Jalan batu-bata" (not proper road).

Good luck to those who is going to buy Viola this weekend~ smile.gif
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I believe it should be "jalan tanah merah", not jalan batu bata biggrin.gif ... anyway I agree on that point. However, the "tanah merah" part is not that long..the rest already proper roads..hopefully it will be upgraded later.

The jalan kebun entry/exit road is already proper..of course not to the level of a highway.

Ya good luck to viola buyers this weekend..if you want to be the first in line... get ready to queue at 6pm the day before the launching... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 6 2010, 01:50 PM)
i am suspecting the factory producing smoke is this 1 (pls see the photo)
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it seems like there is always a catch in every property...
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 9 2010, 12:34 PM)
I believe it should be "jalan tanah merah", not jalan batu bata biggrin.gif ... anyway I agree on that point. However, the "tanah merah" part is not that long..the rest already proper roads..hopefully it will be upgraded later. 

The jalan kebun entry/exit road is already proper..of course not to the level of a highway.

Ya good luck to viola buyers this weekend..if you want to be the first in line... get ready to queue at 6pm the day before the launching...
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r u serious? our property market reaching this stage? got such craze?
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 9 2010, 02:57 PM)
r u serious? our property market reaching this stage? got such craze?
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for Spira, i think the 1st person was queue there at around 9pm the day b4 launching. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 9 2010, 02:57 PM)
r u serious? our property market reaching this stage? got such craze?
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This is just based on the spira launching....the person first in the line was at the office starting 6pm... (the day before the launching).....

First 10 were there before 12 pm, queued at least 10 hours since they opened the office 10 am the next day (so those who are Muslims had to 'sahur' there, luckily got one Mamak restaurant at the back of Naza office opening 24 hours)..... biggrin.gif

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wait... wait... this is Naza TTDI AI rite? alam impian the one at LKSA...

where is the office?

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This is just based on the spira launching....the person first in the line was at the office starting 6pm... (the day before the launching).....

First 10 were there before 12 pm, queued at least 10 hours since they opened the office 10 am the next day (so those who are Muslims had to 'sahur' there, luckily got one Mamak restaurant at the back of Naza office opening 24 hours)..... biggrin.gif
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Will it be that crazy this time with all restrictons & talking about property bubble. I heard from my banker that his business has been slowed down lately. From Ttdi is launching Viola as soft launch, I guess ttdi is testing the base. Anyway, starting price as 431k, it's value buy.


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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 9 2010, 06:01 PM)
wait... wait... this is Naza TTDI AI rite? alam impian the one at LKSA...

where is the office?
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Sale office is in section 13 at jalan marathon. Next to stadium.

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 9 2010, 06:04 PM)
Will it be that crazy this time with all restrictons & talking about property bubble. I heard from my banker that his business has been slowed down lately. From Ttdi is launching Viola as soft launch, I guess ttdi is testing the base. Anyway, starting price as 431k, it's value buy.


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Sale office is in section 13 at jalan marathon. Next to stadium.
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thanks wink.gif i tot id the office is at the AI site, that is in the middle of nowhere ... unsure.gif

RM431k... hmm.gif


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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 9 2010, 06:12 PM)
thanks  wink.gif i tot id the office is at the AI site, that is in the middle of nowhere ...  unsure.gif

RM431k... hmm.gif
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431k for a free hold 20x80 land with 1950 sq-ft BU. A nice and functional design with good finishing. I say it's a value buy.

You still pay the same price with Spira launch, get bigger BU (+80 sq-ft) and bigger land (+10x20).

In I&P AI, you need tp pay 30k more for successive launches. In Dec 2009, Nuklian was 490k and now it is going to be 600k. The same design and you pay 100k more within 1 year. It bugs me a lot. And if you consider that I&P launchings nowadays are from 600k above, the only affordable place in AI is in TTDI alam impian.

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 9 2010, 06:44 PM)
431k for a free hold 20x80 land with 1950 sq-ft BU. A nice and functional design with good finishing. I say it's a value buy.

You still pay the same price with Spira launch, get bigger BU (+80 sq-ft) and bigger land (+10x20).

In I&P AI, you need tp pay 30k more for successive launches. In Dec  2009, Nuklian was 490k and now it is going to be 600k. The same design and you pay 100k more within 1 year. It bugs me a lot. And if you consider that I&P launchings nowadays are from 600k above, the only affordable place in AI is in TTDI alam impian.
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Viola pricing started from RM 431, 000 to RM 540,000.
Type A (20’ x 80’) : RM 431,000
Type B (22’ X 80’) : RM 496,000
Type C (24’ x 80’) : RM 540, 000


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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 9 2010, 06:44 PM)
431k for a free hold 20x80 land with 1950 sq-ft BU. A nice and functional design with good finishing. I say it's a value buy.

You still pay the same price with Spira launch, get bigger BU (+80 sq-ft) and bigger land (+10x20).

In I&P AI, you need tp pay 30k more for successive launches. In Dec  2009, Nuklian was 490k and now it is going to be 600k. The same design and you pay 100k more within 1 year. It bugs me a lot. And if you consider that I&P launchings nowadays are from 600k above, the only affordable place in AI is in TTDI alam impian.
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U hv a very in-depth understanding of this area. Tq.

BTW, if dun look at price, can u compare ttdi n i&p ? Ways ur opinion?
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honestly, if the factory is going to be relocated, viola is definately a VERY GOOD BUY....

but if it's not, then have to be depending on your luck already.


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Agree that this place is one of the rare affordable new landed properties for middle income earners. Can totally understand the excitement of Spira purchasers & potential Viola buyers. Especially those working in Shah Alam, PJ area.

But sadly had to turn down offer to purchase Spira coz im working in KL city. Cons outweighed pros. Return toll if i took kesas would be RM13! And considering jam time, petrol, vehicle wear n tear wasted would be quite substantial.






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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 9 2010, 12:34 PM)
I believe it should be "jalan tanah merah", not jalan batu bata biggrin.gif ... anyway I agree on that point. However, the "tanah merah" part is not that long..the rest already proper roads..hopefully it will be upgraded later. 

The jalan kebun entry/exit road is already proper..of course not to the level of a highway.

Ya good luck to viola buyers this weekend..if you want to be the first in line... get ready to queue at 6pm the day before the launching... sweat.gif
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Have been wondering about the travelling cost here...…. For those who are frequent travelling to kl, pj, or puchong..they will have to pay toll….unless they take alternative road ie jalan kebun or sg kandis…which takes longer journey…

Did some rough calculations if you were to live and travel (in and out) to kl, pj or puchong….

Toll rates x No. of trips (in & out) x Days (1 year) = Total
RM0.60 x 2 x 365 = RM438/year
RM0.80 x 2 x 365 = RM584/year
RM1.00 x 2 x 365 = RM730/year
RM1.20 x 2 x 365 = RM876/year

So currently we will need to spend roughly about RM438 (plus minus) per year for the toll charges…. Can save this amount of money for service car and maintenance.

If the toll rates increase…..that would be jialat ….But I guess for those high income earners can still afford to pay
Well that is the price we have to pay if living in AI sad.gif
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QUOTE(Tollman @ Dec 9 2010, 11:58 PM)
Have been wondering about the travelling cost here...…. For those who are frequent travelling to kl, pj, or puchong..they will have to pay toll….unless they take alternative road ie jalan kebun or sg kandis…which takes longer journey…

Did some rough calculations if you were to live and travel (in and out) to kl, pj or puchong….

Toll rates  x  No. of trips (in & out) x  Days (1 year)  =  Total 
RM0.60    x          2                      x      365            = RM438/year
RM0.80    x          2                      x      365            = RM584/year
RM1.00    x          2                      x      365            = RM730/year
RM1.20    x          2                      x      365            = RM876/year

So currently we will need to spend roughly about RM438 (plus minus) per year for the toll charges…. Can save this amount of money for service car and maintenance.

If the toll rates increase…..that would be jialat ….But I guess for those high income earners can still afford to pay
Well that is the price we have to pay if living in AI  sad.gif
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It depends on how u look at it. I look at the toll as my advantage. Currently, I stay in cheras & work in sunway. Although driving along federal highway might save me a lot, I tend to drive along Kesas for saving time & peace of mind. Stress actually could kill you these days:)

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I dont know about viola. But the Spira and the Shoplot, some guys had their maids to line up at 6am just to get in line.

The sales person said, the maid camp there overnight. But im quite skeptical.
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I dont know about viola. But the Spira and the Shoplot, some guys had their maids to line up at 6am just to get in line.

The sales person said, the maid camp there overnight. But im quite skeptical.
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kesian the maid...

but u said 6am same day or the day before?

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QUOTE(koopa @ Dec 10 2010, 01:49 AM)
I dont know about viola. But the Spira and the Shoplot, some guys had their maids to line up at 6am just to get in line.

The sales person said, the maid camp there overnight. But im quite skeptical.
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For Spira I can confirm that there are definitely campers staying overnight as I am one of them tongue.gif , had to 'sahur for puasa' there ...but definitely worth it as I got the unit that I want ....

If you want good unit fronting playground, nice number, nice location, I would suggest to queue there at least the night before the launching....better safe than sorry

Also if possible try to queue yourself...as I saw some people paid other people to queue ...but that might not be nice to other buyer that queued themselves
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Please advise!

I've got 2 choice here:

a) Taman Putra Impiana, Puchong.
b) Viola, TTDI Alam Impian.

a) RM420k
BU : 1920sqft. 20x70
Leasehold
Ex- mining land.

Advantage: No need pay toll that often (bcos work at Puchong). Developed township. Gated & Guarded. facing North.

Disadvantage: Leasehold. ex mining land.

b) RM431k
BU: 1910sqft. 20x80
freehold
ex-estate land.

Advantage: Nearer to my mother in law house in Shah Alam(my kids taken care by her). Freehold.

Disadvantage: Toll. more travelling time. Developing township(no shop or mini market). Have to pay a lot of toll & car maintenance since my kids will study in Puchong soon.

which one you think I should choose?? Thank you.
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 9 2010, 06:12 PM)
thanks  wink.gif i tot id the office is at the AI site, that is in the middle of nowhere ...  unsure.gif

RM431k... hmm.gif
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lol... usj, puchong, putra heights, and etc etc etc was also in the middle of nowhere, once upon a time...

IMO, Alam Impian is smack in the middle of Klang and PJ...
sandwich between KESAS and FEDERAL-H
AI to sunway - 15mins (60c toll)
AI to puchong jaya - 15mins ( 60c + 1.60/2.20 toll )
AI to Kelana jaya - 15mins ( 60c if use kesas / 60c + Batu Tiga toll )
AI to klang - 15 mins ( 60c / free )

i bought AI because its the cheapest NEW landed freehold house.
yes, you have to pay toll, rm0.60 everytime u go in and out of AI.

As per TOLLMANS calculation, its roughly around rm500 per year give and take.
if i were to stay there for 30 years, i will have to pay around rm20k for toll, give and take.
its still cheaper compared to houses around the vicinity...

bukit kemuning - starting price rm500k+- ( 5 mins away - access road in/out of bukit kemuning is crappier IMO and under construction )
sierra 16 - starting price rm500k+- ( leasehold, 2 years wait for construction )
putra impiana - starting price rm430k+- ( leasehold, 2 years wait for construction )
putra heights - starting price rm600k ? ( new, completed, move in )
bandar kinrara (mahsing) - rm800k ? ( under construction )
usj heights - rm800k ? ( under construction )

as for capital appreciation for spira, IMO, it had alredy appreciated based on pricing of VIOLA.
starting price for SPIRA - rm430k ( non bumi ) ready, complete, move in
starting price for VIOLA - rm430k ( slightly bigger - yes, bumi/non bumi ?, i am not sure ) ready in 1.5 years.... and that is 1.5 years vs completed
alot of ppl tend to miss the point that vioala is still under construction..
there is a difference between completed vs construction sale pricing.
from my observations, completed houses tend to appreciate on average of rm70-90k from the initial purchase price. ( thats before the 20% downpayment thingy bank negara imposed. how is it going to affect the market is yet to be seen )

I am abit bias on this, afterall i did purchase spira... tongue.gif



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QUOTE(snake4168 @ Dec 10 2010, 10:36 AM)
Please advise!

I've got 2 choice here:

a) Taman Putra Impiana, Puchong.
b) Viola, TTDI Alam Impian.

a) RM420k
BU : 1920sqft. 20x70
Leasehold
Ex- mining land.

Advantage: No need pay toll that often (bcos work at Puchong). Developed township. Gated & Guarded. facing North.

Disadvantage: Leasehold. ex mining land.

b) RM431k
BU: 1910sqft. 20x80
freehold
ex-estate land.

Advantage: Nearer to my mother in law house in Shah Alam(my kids taken care by her). Freehold.

Disadvantage: Toll. more travelling time. Developing township(no shop or mini market). Have to pay a lot of toll & car maintenance since my kids will study in Puchong soon.

which one you think I should choose?? Thank you.
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hi...

From Kesas to Puchong ... (RM0.60 + RM1.60) x 2 = RM4.40 per day.... tat day i tried.... from puchong to Kesas is FOC ... hmm.gif

Behind the Jalan Kebun got minimarket = 99 Speedmart & ECONSAVE almost completed when i went there recently.

Carrefour is almost completed at Seksyen 25. Giant Bukit Kemuning is opened on 2/12/2010.

But school a bit susah i think nod.gif
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 10 2010, 10:44 AM)
hi...

From Kesas to Puchong ... (RM0.60 + RM1.60) x 2 = RM4.40 per day.... tat day i tried.... from puchong to Kesas is FOC ... hmm.gif

Behind the Jalan Kebun got minimarket = 99 Speedmart & ECONSAVE almost completed when i went there recently.

Carrefour is almost completed at Seksyen 25. Giant Bukit Kemuning is opened on 2/12/2010.

But school a bit susah i think nod.gif
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FOC? Which road you refer? As I know, Puchong to Shah Alam need to pay either RM1.60 via LDP-Hicom or RM2.20 via KESAS (USJ toll).
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FOC? Which road you refer? As I know, Puchong to Shah Alam need to pay either RM1.60 via LDP-Hicom or RM2.20 via KESAS (USJ toll).
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there is a free road from Puchong to Kesas via LDP-Hicom

CLICK HERE for free road route / google map
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QUOTE(snake4168 @ Dec 10 2010, 10:36 AM)
Please advise!

I've got 2 choice here:

a) Taman Putra Impiana, Puchong.
b) Viola, TTDI Alam Impian.

a) RM420k
BU : 1920sqft. 20x70
Leasehold
Ex- mining land.

Advantage: No need pay toll that often (bcos work at Puchong). Developed township. Gated & Guarded. facing North.

Disadvantage: Leasehold. ex mining land.

b) RM431k
BU: 1910sqft. 20x80
freehold
ex-estate land.

Advantage: Nearer to my mother in law house in Shah Alam(my kids taken care by her). Freehold.

Disadvantage: Toll. more travelling time. Developing township(no shop or mini market). Have to pay a lot of toll & car maintenance since my kids will study in Puchong soon.

which one you think I should choose?? Thank you.
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Alam Impian hands down.... its the next Bukit Jelutung/USJ Heights/Bandar Kinrara (high-end townships) ...you should know that housiing development also like other merchandises where branding and consumer target market are very important to drive the price....biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(narayan @ Dec 10 2010, 11:06 AM)
there is a free road from Puchong to Kesas via LDP-Hicom

CLICK HERE for free road route / google map
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yes this one.... notworthy.gif tq
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OMG! so big turn! Putra Impiana just nearby! It will add point to it, not AI.
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VIOLA buyers.....the www.ttdialamimpian.com website has been updated.. go there to see layout etc smile.gif

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 10 2010, 12:23 PM)
VIOLA buyers.....the www.ttdialamimpian.com website has been updated.. go there to see layout etc  smile.gif
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shocking.gif

is the graphics 4 illustration only or will build the fountain?

nice....
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Interesting... the website said "Where everything is A STONE's THROW away"... it's far lehh...

Well, like one of the forumers said, Desa Park City, Puchong, Kinrara, etc. etc. were once considered "far-away", and now it's so close?? and so expensive!

Hmm... still not quite + about Alam Impian, anyway, good luck to purchasers and potential purchasers~ hope that you will gain some $$$ here~
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shocking.gif

is the graphics 4 illustration only or will build the fountain?

nice....
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The fountain has been built..only no water yet....they even laid down the carpet grass...
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QUOTE(HappyA_Q @ Dec 10 2010, 12:41 PM)
Interesting... the website said "Where everything is A STONE's THROW away"... it's far lehh...

Well, like one of the forumers said, Desa Park City, Puchong, Kinrara, etc. etc. were once considered "far-away", and now it's so close?? and so expensive!

Hmm... still not quite + about Alam Impian, anyway, good luck to purchasers and potential purchasers~ hope that you will gain some $$$ here~
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property dun grow overnite... nod.gif

i agree that it is at the centre of KESAS & Fed Highway... quite strategic. As long as u can link to either highway u it is convenient enough icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 10 2010, 10:21 AM)
For Spira I can confirm that there are definitely campers staying overnight as I am one of them  tongue.gif , had to 'sahur for puasa' there ...but definitely worth it as I got the unit that I want ....

If you want good unit fronting playground, nice number, nice location, I would suggest to queue there at least the night before the launching....better safe than sorry

Also if possible try to queue yourself...as I saw some people paid other people to queue ...but that might not be nice to other buyer that queued themselves
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For Spira, may I know at 6 am how many people already there?

Btw the new layout they put up at the website does not look same as the models they had during the Star Properties expo/the ones at the office... swear the models there were 2 rooms at ground floor...
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QUOTE(RobUlstan @ Dec 10 2010, 03:27 PM)
For Spira, may I know at 6 am how many people already there?

Btw the new layout they put up at the website does not look same as the models they had during the Star Properties expo/the ones at the office... swear the models there were 2 rooms at ground floor...
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i (maid) bedroom & 1 utility?
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i (maid) bedroom & 1 utility?
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I believe the model showed 2 bedrooms (of almost same size). Don't know whether they now changed one to utility.
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I believe the model showed 2 bedrooms (of almost same size). Don't know whether they now changed one to utility.
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Not enough space to have 2 bed rooms in ground floor. What you saw maybe type D?
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Not enough space to have 2 bed rooms in ground floor. What you saw maybe type D?
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opps... i think i made a mistake too... i saw the one was I&P show house... 1 room & 1 utility at the back (kitchen)...
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anyone know how long developer need to take to execute the SPA before send to the lawyer for stamping?
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QUOTE(narayan @ Dec 10 2010, 10:42 AM)
lol... usj, puchong, putra heights, and etc etc etc was also in the middle of nowhere, once upon a time...

IMO, Alam Impian is smack in the middle of Klang and PJ...
sandwich between KESAS and FEDERAL-H
AI to sunway - 15mins (60c toll)
AI to puchong jaya - 15mins ( 60c + 1.60/2.20 toll )
AI to Kelana jaya - 15mins ( 60c if use kesas / 60c + Batu Tiga toll )
AI to klang - 15 mins ( 60c / free )

i bought AI because its the cheapest NEW landed freehold house.
yes, you have to pay toll, rm0.60 everytime u go in and out of AI.

As per TOLLMANS calculation, its roughly around rm500 per year give and take.
if i were to stay there for 30 years, i will have to pay around rm20k for toll, give and take.
its still cheaper compared to houses around the vicinity...

bukit kemuning - starting price rm500k+- ( 5 mins away - access road in/out of bukit kemuning is crappier IMO and under construction )
sierra 16 - starting price rm500k+- ( leasehold, 2 years wait for construction )
putra impiana - starting price rm430k+- ( leasehold, 2 years wait for construction )
putra heights - starting price rm600k ? ( new, completed, move in )
bandar kinrara (mahsing) - rm800k ? ( under construction )
usj heights - rm800k ? ( under construction )

as for capital appreciation for spira, IMO, it had alredy appreciated based on pricing of VIOLA.
starting price for SPIRA - rm430k ( non bumi ) ready, complete, move in
starting price for VIOLA - rm430k ( slightly bigger - yes, bumi/non bumi ?, i am not sure ) ready in 1.5 years....  and that is 1.5 years vs completed
alot of ppl tend to miss the point that vioala is still under construction..
there is a difference between completed vs construction sale pricing.
from my observations, completed houses tend to appreciate on average of rm70-90k from the initial purchase price. ( thats before the 20% downpayment thingy bank negara imposed. how is it going to affect the market is yet to be seen )

I am abit bias on this, afterall i did purchase spira...  tongue.gif
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I do agree with you….but lets hope they (toll operator) would not increase the toll rates drastically in future…
Cos….imagine if they increase too high…that might affect the capital appreciation of AI (currently RM0.60 for AI and RM1.20 for Sri Muda) as AI is heavily dependant to this access highway…

We (public) have no power (accept keep on complaining) against the increase in toll rates and we will be at their mercy when this happen…. unsure.gif
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Not enough space to have 2 bed rooms in ground floor. What you saw maybe type D?
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No, i distinctly remember it says Type A. Well, it would be very small rooms anyway, so no problem... smile.gif
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Hi Guys, I'm looking to grab either one of the 22 x 80 or 24 x 80 units at VIOLA this Sunday. Anyone else joining the camping session tomorrow? Hope to see you guys there...
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Hi Guys, I'm looking to grab either one of the 22 x 80 or 24 x 80 units at VIOLA this Sunday. Anyone else joining the camping session tomorrow? Hope to see you guys there...
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In I&PAI pricing, houses facing playground are 20k more expensive. No such thing in TTDI AI so grab the unit facing field. Only half of units are facing field, you need to be in front of the queue. According to viola pricing, I guess type C is more attractive as it was 553k for Spira. For type B, the same price for both Viola & Spira. Good luck neighbor!
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 10 2010, 11:50 PM)
In I&PAI pricing, houses facing playground are 20k more expensive. No such thing in TTDI AI so grab the unit facing field. Only half of units are facing field, you need to be in front of the queue. According to viola pricing, I guess type C is more attractive as it was 553k for Spira. For type B, the same price for both Viola & Spira. Good luck neighbor!
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I'm too keen on the Type C 24' x 80' facing the Recreational Field....but in terms of bang for bucks I think the 22' x 80' Type B (facing the open field) seems worth it as well with an premium of almost RM50k lesser compared to the Type C....what say you 'hopefully' future neighbor? tongue.gif
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I'm too keen on the Type C 24' x 80' facing the Recreational Field....but in terms of bang for bucks I think the 22' x 80' Type B (facing the open field) seems worth it as well with an premium of almost RM50k lesser compared to the Type C....what say you 'hopefully' future neighbor? tongue.gif
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Upgrade from Type A to B, you pay 65k for extra 230 sq-ft but you only pay 44k for extra 220 sq-ft by upgrading from Type B to C. You do the maths.smile.gif
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Upgrade from Type A to B, you pay 65k for extra 230 sq-ft but you only pay 44k for extra 220 sq-ft by upgrading from Type B to C. You do the maths.smile.gif
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Well yeah....the decision was to grab the Type C 24' x 80' actually rclxms.gif ...just measuring other options as well. Which unit of Spira have you laid your hands on my friend...?
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Well yeah....the decision was to grab the Type C 24' x 80' actually rclxms.gif ...just measuring other options as well. Which unit of Spira have you laid your hands on my friend...?
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I got type C too:)(in Spira). I always like 24x?? as the floor plans are generally nicer.

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I got type C too:)(in Spira). I always like 24x?? as the floor plans are generally nicer.
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Visited spira, saw viola construction site, went i&p AI. Will upload pic by tomoro for comparisons smile.gif
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I just called up ttdi to check out their corner units pricing...the person said there alredy people queing up for tomolo's soft launching.haiya so fast people que up adi
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Can you share Viola corner lot pricing? Spira corner lots are around 730k for a house of BU 2500 sq-ft and LA 4000 sq-ft.

Queuing now! Thought the interest on Viola will be less due to bank restriction. I was wrong.
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whats the pricing starts from?
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Can you share Viola corner lot pricing? Spira corner lots are around 730k for a house of BU 2500 sq-ft and LA 4000 sq-ft.

Queuing now! Thought the interest on Viola will be less due to bank restriction. I was wrong.
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for viola minimum corner unit pricing starts from rm670k n max up to rm9++k.tats wat the salesperson told me on the phone
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I'm here now. There are 16 in the queue
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Hello so tomorrow the launching of Viola Alam Impian..to those who want some info here are some that i can share:

1) i think the SPA for Viola complete already since they said the lawyer has signed already. Maybe purchaser can sign it tomorrow.
2) Viola expected completion around end of next year and i believe purchaser can only come in early 2012 ---> end of the world brows.gif
3) although you guys claims Viola design is modern bla2..in fact its was designed 4 years ago.
4) Viola in our code is phase 1b. Phase 1c - Spira. Phase 1A and Phase 1D(not constructed yet) also designed 4 years ago. however, i heard they are undergoing design improvement exercise. I believe the design much2 better.
5) For investment, honestly i dont think this is a good choice. Too deep inside. However the commercial area and bungalows lots are currently in design stage. i believe if there are nothing happen it will be completed around 2015.
6) from History perspective, Viola intended for high end terrace housing ( 4 years back).. however it has undergo downgrade process (just the finishes and accessories) last 2 year..however mid this year TTDI want to improve the design.So they pump in huge budget just to make it beautiful.
7) Those Perspective at TTDI page just a bluff..especially the playground..haha
8) dont get fooled by the size of the house. some of the smaller corner unit has bigger land area..good for landscape and expansion..
9) I believe those TTDI GM, Directors and staff has booked a lot of corner unit..they aim for type D3..i'm not sure how much left..if you ask me i would by type C or D1..their bathrooms are much2 bigger..
10) there are garden in your master bathroom..info
11) The sanitary wares quite decent. i carefully picked a good one for you guys..make sure to belanje me..hehe...
12) For the next 2-3 years these 2 sites (spira + viola) will be bath with dust since major construction will be going nearby..
14) For those who going to TTDI office tmorrow, when you see the model of the house, the colour of the house is not like that. i've proposed 2 new scheme but TTDI still not picked the one they like the most.
15) I dont know what to share anymore. hehe..anything just ask..just to let you guys know this house is not my design..so dont complain to me about the design..i'm just make sure the house completed properly..thats all..the fella that design this is our ex-staff..and she really give me a hard time to repair her design mistake..hurgegegea!@!$!#$!#%$^&%

chow..
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anyone know how long developer need to take to execute the SPA before send to the lawyer for stamping?
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According to the lawyer either this week or next week. I'm also quite pissed about this since I want to withdraw my epf and I need the spa being stamped. I don't know it takes so long for the developer to sign the spa.
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hi dai goh, dai jie,

Would like to know how many selling units for viola, and how many left? Is it fully sold?

sonicraft7, thanks for your information.
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There will be quite a number of units being reserved or hold by their staffs, as such you will have to take into account the possibility that you willl not be getting your first choice. Make sure you have chosen few others as backup. Last time majority of type A houses (cheapest) fronting playground alreay taken by their staffs. Most cheaper corner units are also taken by their staffs. End lot also all taken at that time.

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There will be quite a number of units being reserved or hold by their staffs, as such you will have to take into account the possibility that you willl not be getting your first choice. Make sure you have chosen few others as backup. Last time majority of type A houses (cheapest) fronting playground alreay taken by their staffs. Most cheaper corner units are also taken by their staffs. End lot also all taken at that time.
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Now only 18 in queue. A few already taken by directors, I think they said 95 units left. From what I can see most already taken are the type c. I think 15 left for that type.
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According to the lawyer either this week or next week. I'm also quite pissed about this since I want to withdraw my epf and I need the spa being stamped. I don't know it takes so long for the developer to sign the spa.
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owh if that the case that i's going to be next week. i wonder why the lawyer take too much time..They told me to complete all 112 sets SPA in 2 days and their lawyer simple job takes much more..demm..that not fair..
well rich people become richer..bla2..
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 11 2010, 10:43 PM)
According to the lawyer either this week or next week. I'm also quite pissed about this since I want to withdraw my epf and I need the spa being stamped. I don't know it takes so long for the developer to sign the spa.
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dun worry too much.. i think everybody will get it soon.. i have collected mine last week.. SPA was stamped on 3 dec.... smile.gif .. epf will take 2 weeks i guess..
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 11 2010, 10:36 PM)
Hello so tomorrow the launching of Viola Alam Impian..to those who want some info here are some that i can share:

1) i think the SPA for Viola complete already since they said the lawyer has signed already. Maybe purchaser can sign it tomorrow.
2) Viola expected completion around end of next year and i believe purchaser can only come in early 2012 ---> end of the world  brows.gif
3) although you guys claims Viola design is modern bla2..in fact its was designed 4 years ago.
4) Viola in our code is phase 1b. Phase 1c - Spira. Phase 1A and Phase 1D(not constructed yet) also designed 4 years ago. however, i heard they are undergoing design improvement exercise. I believe the design much2 better.
5) For investment, honestly i dont think this is a good choice. Too deep inside. However the commercial area and bungalows lots are currently in design stage. i believe if there are nothing happen it will be completed around 2015.
6) from History perspective, Viola intended for high end terrace housing ( 4 years back).. however it has undergo downgrade process (just the finishes and accessories) last 2 year..however mid this year TTDI want to improve the design.So they pump in huge budget just to make it beautiful.
7) Those Perspective at TTDI page just a bluff..especially the playground..haha
8) dont get fooled by the size of the house. some of the smaller corner unit has bigger land area..good for landscape and expansion..
9) I believe those TTDI GM, Directors and staff has booked a lot of corner unit..they aim for type D3..i'm not sure how much left..if you ask me i would by type C or D1..thijeir bathrooms are much2 bigger..
10) there are garden in your master bathroom..info
11) The sanitary wares quite decent. i carefully picked a good one for you guys..make sure to belanje me..hehe...
12) For the next 2-3 years these 2 sites (spira + viola) will be bath with dust since major construction will be going nearby..
14) For those who going to TTDI office tmorrow, when you see the model of the house, the colour of the house is not like that. i've proposed 2 new scheme but TTDI still not picked the one they like the most.
15) I dont know what to share anymore. hehe..anything just ask..just to let you guys know this house is not my design..so dont complain to me about the design..i'm just make sure the house completed properly..thats all..the fella that design this is our ex-staff..and she really give me a hard time to repair her design mistake..hurgegegea!@!$!#$!#%$^&%

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From your opinion, any design flaw in viola that is potentially a deal breaker?
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owh if that the case that i's going to be next week. i wonder why the lawyer take too much time..They told me to complete all 112 sets SPA in 2 days and their lawyer simple job takes much more..demm..that not fair..
well rich people become richer..bla2..
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I think you got confused with Viola spa and Spira spa. He was talking about Spira spa. We signed spa but we still haven't got our spa back from lawyer with stamps & seal from land office.

Just wonder how Viola buyers can get spa by paying 10k only. Isn't it supposed to be 10% of the house price?
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 11 2010, 10:36 PM)
Hello so tomorrow the launching of Viola Alam Impian..to those who want some info here are some that i can share:

1) i think the SPA for Viola complete already since they said the lawyer has signed already. Maybe purchaser can sign it tomorrow.
2) Viola expected completion around end of next year and i believe purchaser can only come in early 2012 ---> end of the world  brows.gif
3) although you guys claims Viola design is modern bla2..in fact its was designed 4 years ago.
4) Viola in our code is phase 1b. Phase 1c - Spira. Phase 1A and Phase 1D(not constructed yet) also designed 4 years ago. however, i heard they are undergoing design improvement exercise. I believe the design much2 better.
5) For investment, honestly i dont think this is a good choice. Too deep inside. However the commercial area and bungalows lots are currently in design stage. i believe if there are nothing happen it will be completed around 2015.
6) from History perspective, Viola intended for high end terrace housing ( 4 years back).. however it has undergo downgrade process (just the finishes and accessories) last 2 year..however mid this year TTDI want to improve the design.So they pump in huge budget just to make it beautiful.
7) Those Perspective at TTDI page just a bluff..especially the playground..haha
8) dont get fooled by the size of the house. some of the smaller corner unit has bigger land area..good for landscape and expansion..
9) I believe those TTDI GM, Directors and staff has booked a lot of corner unit..they aim for type D3..i'm not sure how much left..if you ask me i would by type C or D1..their bathrooms are much2 bigger..
10) there are garden in your master bathroom..info
11) The sanitary wares quite decent. i carefully picked a good one for you guys..make sure to belanje me..hehe...
12) For the next 2-3 years these 2 sites (spira + viola) will be bath with dust since major construction will be going nearby..
14) For those who going to TTDI office tmorrow, when you see the model of the house, the colour of the house is not like that. i've proposed 2 new scheme but TTDI still not picked the one they like the most.
15) I dont know what to share anymore. hehe..anything just ask..just to let you guys know this house is not my design..so dont complain to me about the design..i'm just make sure the house completed properly..thats all..the fella that design this is our ex-staff..and she really give me a hard time to repair her design mistake..hurgegegea!@!$!#$!#%$^&%

chow..
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whooaaA.. appreciate infos that u share... not sure what u mean on #5... are u saying that commercial & bangalow lot will be completed as early as 2015? also mind to share on SPIRA design? i am also wondering the road/land behind phase c SPIRA (24x70) ... is that belongs to TTDI ? whats their future plan?

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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Dec 11 2010, 11:20 PM)
dun worry too much.. i think everybody will get it soon.. i have collected mine last week.. SPA was stamped on  3 dec.... smile.gif ..  epf will take 2 weeks i guess..
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Wow..yours is very fast...the lawyer office told me Naza will wait for all SPAs to be signed by customer, then only they'll sign...that means what the lawyer office told me is not true

May I know when did you sign your SPA?
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Wow..yours is very fast...the lawyer office told me Naza will wait for all SPAs to be signed by customer, then only they'll sign...that means what the lawyer office told me is not true

May I know when did you sign your SPA?
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err.. 20 Nov .. u?
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err.. 20 Nov .. u?
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27 Nov..maybe mine not ready coz I signed much later than you tongue.gif ......

Did you notice they are changing the old pylons to bigger pylons now ? Hopefully the communication tower will not follow and be increased in size mad.gif

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27 Nov..maybe mine not ready coz I signed much later than you  tongue.gif  ......
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Lawyer said to me that it would take 2 weeks. Asked me to check with her in 2 weeks time. It's on this Monday for me:)
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Lawyer said to me that it would take 2 weeks. Asked me to check with her in 2 weeks time. It's on this Monday for me:)
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I guess we are in the same batch biggrin.gif
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For Spira not much i can comment but all i can say both Spira and Viola are pretty much the same..the finishes quality almost the same and infact some of the material is from the same supplier(NAZA companies sub). in term of design i can say viola is not as plain as spira. if you looking for design flaw in viola i think up to this point i've fixed everything that i can. the rest can only be detected once people move in.
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 11 2010, 10:36 PM)
Hello so tomorrow the launching of Viola Alam Impian..to those who want some info here are some that i can share:

1) i think the SPA for Viola complete already since they said the lawyer has signed already. Maybe purchaser can sign it tomorrow.
2) Viola expected completion around end of next year and i believe purchaser can only come in early 2012 ---> end of the world  brows.gif
3) although you guys claims Viola design is modern bla2..in fact its was designed 4 years ago.
4) Viola in our code is phase 1b. Phase 1c - Spira. Phase 1A and Phase 1D(not constructed yet) also designed 4 years ago. however, i heard they are undergoing design improvement exercise. I believe the design much2 better.
5) For investment, honestly i dont think this is a good choice. Too deep inside. However the commercial area and bungalows lots are currently in design stage. i believe if there are nothing happen it will be completed around 2015.
6) from History perspective, Viola intended for high end terrace housing ( 4 years back).. however it has undergo downgrade process (just the finishes and accessories) last 2 year..however mid this year TTDI want to improve the design.So they pump in huge budget just to make it beautiful.
7) Those Perspective at TTDI page just a bluff..especially the playground..haha
8) dont get fooled by the size of the house. some of the smaller corner unit has bigger land area..good for landscape and expansion..
9) I believe those TTDI GM, Directors and staff has booked a lot of corner unit..they aim for type D3..i'm not sure how much left..if you ask me i would by type C or D1..their bathrooms are much2 bigger..
10) there are garden in your master bathroom..info
11) The sanitary wares quite decent. i carefully picked a good one for you guys..make sure to belanje me..hehe...
12) For the next 2-3 years these 2 sites (spira + viola) will be bath with dust since major construction will be going nearby..
14) For those who going to TTDI office tmorrow, when you see the model of the house, the colour of the house is not like that. i've proposed 2 new scheme but TTDI still not picked the one they like the most.
15) I dont know what to share anymore. hehe..anything just ask..just to let you guys know this house is not my design..so dont complain to me about the design..i'm just make sure the house completed properly..thats all..the fella that design this is our ex-staff..and she really give me a hard time to repair her design mistake..hurgegegea!@!$!#$!#%$^&%

chow..
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Hi Sonic,

Thanks a lot for the info... I really appreciate it.. Do keep us updated on any other issues ya rclxms.gif
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I guess we are in the same batch  biggrin.gif
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Me too pissed off with their efficiency of process SPA. I am also waiting for the stamped SPA to withdraw from EPF. i signed SPA on 26th. I called up developer few days back and he said it is submitted to their Director to sign. He told me that they will only give us the house key once the banker disbursed the money to them and normally banker needs 3 weeks time to process and disburse the money after banker got the stamped SPA. means thant we only can get the key on after Dec 2011.
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 12 2010, 12:02 AM)
For Spira not much i can comment but all i can say both Spira and Viola are pretty much the same..the finishes quality almost the same and infact some of the material is from the same supplier(NAZA companies sub). in term of design i can say viola is not as plain as spira. if you looking for design flaw in viola i think up to this point i've fixed everything that i can. the rest can only be detected once people move in.
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r u the one that design alam sari 1p2?
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 12 2010, 12:02 AM)
For Spira not much i can comment but all i can say both Spira and Viola are pretty much the same..the finishes quality almost the same and infact some of the material is from the same supplier(NAZA companies sub). in term of design i can say viola is not as plain as spira. if you looking for design flaw in viola i think up to this point i've fixed everything that i can. the rest can only be detected once people move in.
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As a Spira owner, I'm glad that Viola is not that superior to Spira.smile.gif Can you shed light on the development plan of TTDI AI? From what you said about bathe with dust for 2 years, I guess phase 1D, which is in front of Spira, will be constructed from 2011? Then, the construction of banglow & commercials will start in 2012-13 in order to complete in 2015. Is it close enough to the real schedule?smile.gif

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Nope..i'm no designer for alam sari..even viola is not my design..i'm just new in my office and viola is my first job given bu somebody who left the office. so i try to do my best to make sure the project is a success..owh again i forget to mention..purchaser, please do not mention anything i said in here at TTDI..they'll freaking kill me.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(sonicraft7 @ Dec 12 2010, 01:09 AM)
Nope..i'm no designer for alam sari..even viola is not my design..i'm just new in my office and viola is my first job given bu somebody who left the office. so i try to do my best to make sure the project is a success..owh again i forget to mention..purchaser, please do not mention anything i said in here at TTDI..they'll freaking kill me.. rclxub.gif
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so ur company design alam sari 1p2 then?
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As a Spira owner, I'm glad that Viola is not that superior to Spira.smile.gif Can you shed light on the development plan of TTDI AI? From what you said about bathe with dust for 2 years, I guess phase 1D, which is in front of Spira, will be constructed from 2011? Then, the construction of banglow & commercials will start in 2012-13 in order to complete in 2015. Is it close enough to the real schedule?smile.gif
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me too... does viola have the anti climbing wall as well?

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me too... does viola have the anti climbing wall as well?
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yeah i think so..i saw one file with alam sari name on it..yeah viola will have anti climbing wall as well however will not be constructed until CCC issued..
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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Dec 11 2010, 11:20 PM)
dun worry too much.. i think everybody will get it soon.. i have collected mine last week.. SPA was stamped on  3 dec.... smile.gif ..  epf will take 2 weeks i guess..
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This means that the 90-day late disbursement penalty free period for you will be starting from 3 dec right? Not 20 Nov right?
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This means that the 90-day late disbursement penalty free period for you will be starting from 3 dec right? Not 20 Nov right?
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u r right.... no further signing required on SPA upon collecting it... make sure u tell them u need original copy other than the duplicate ones.. smile.gif

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u r right.... no further signing required on SPA upon collecting it... make sure u tell them u need original copy other than the duplicate ones..  smile.gif
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Thanks biggrin.gif

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Thanks  biggrin.gif

I wonder what is the take up rate for viola today
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i went to their office yesterday around 1 am... i pity ppl that really serious to buy one for living... i think most of them are runners (maybe from agency) .. 4 ppl purposely sleeps on the chair which each one taking up to 4 sits.. 4x4 = 16 chairs???..... not sure what's their purpose... maybe they intended to sell those chairs today morning?

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 12 2010, 11:49 AM)
Thanks  biggrin.gif

I wonder what is the take up rate for viola today
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I went to ttdi office at 11 am to check the pricing. Approximately, 20 people are queuing outside of ttdi office to go in. When I pass there again at 12 am, only 2-3 person queuing outside. I guess 30 or 40 houses will be sold by this morning if everyone going in is buying a house.
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QUOTE(anti_gaara @ Dec 12 2010, 12:43 PM)
i went to their office yesterday around 1 am... i pity ppl that really serious to buy one for living... i think most of them are runners (maybe from agency) .. 4 ppl purposely sleeps on the chair which each one taking up to 4 sits..  4x4 = 16 chairs???..... not sure what's their purpose... maybe they intended to sell those chairs today morning?
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Ya this kind of actions, while is legal, is arguably unethical sad.gif , hopefully those genuine house buyers got to buy their unit of choice....


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I went to ttdi office at 11 am to check the pricing. Approximately, 20 people are queuing outside of ttdi office to go in. When I pass there again at 12 am, only 2-3 person queuing outside. I guess 30 or 40 houses will be sold by this morning if everyone going in is buying a house.
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May I know what was the cheapest corner unit that was available?

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very few units though, hope can get sth
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 12 2010, 04:05 PM)
Ya this kind of actions, while is legal, is arguably unethical  sad.gif , hopefully those genuine house buyers got to buy their unit of choice....


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May I know what was the cheapest corner unit that was available?
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Just called.... Type A unit sold out.... Type B unit left around 4 units.... ppl so rich....
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 12 2010, 04:05 PM)
Ya this kind of actions, while is legal, is arguably unethical  sad.gif , hopefully those genuine house buyers got to buy their unit of choice....


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May I know what was the cheapest corner unit that was available?
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Since I did not want to queue for long time, I did not go in. Just got the brochure. But someone earlier posted that the lowest price for the corner lot is 670k. According to the brochure, the most expensive corner lot will cost you 1068k! We have neighbors whose houses worth a million:)


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Just called.... Type A unit sold out.... Type B unit left around 4 units.... ppl so rich....
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Type A is just 19 houses and the pricing is very attractive. So it is ordinary to be sold out.
I am impressed with Type B. Only 4 houses left from total of 42 houses. I thought Type B was the least attractive in Viola.
Just wonder how's going on for Type C. It maybe a bit pricy so less attractive, I guess but it's only 21 houses.

Among 30 corner lots, some are very pricy so I guess TTDI may not be able to claim for Viola like it did for Spria, "Sold 100% within 3 days". smile.gif


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Now only 18 in queue. A few already taken by directors, I think they said 95 units left. From what I can see most already taken are the type c. I think 15 left for that type.
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Great....thanks for the heads up... rclxms.gif
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I guess Msian are rich (probably except me) as people lined up 2 days before it launched (of course getting runners) and they're buying houses like buying vege in some market or so...

what with the craze?
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Hey Bro.. Still sleeping after queuing for whole night? smile.gif Hope you get the house you wanted.....

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Hey haha. Yeah got up already. Bought the B one that I wanted, so all's cool..

Most of those guys sleeping actually got paid by some others to wait (RM 150/chair). There's one person per chair but during the night some took over more chairs temporarily to sleep (I took 3 myself smile.gif ).

When I finally left at about 3 pm, there were quite a lot Type B left from what I see on the booking board, but I guess after that people all bought those.

Btw, I'd thought SPA usually signed after 14 days, but this time signed today.

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I guess Msian are rich (probably except me) as people lined up 2 days before it launched (of course getting runners) and they're buying houses like buying vege in some market or so...

what with the craze?
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I managed to scrap for Type A as it is more cash friendly towards my wallet... and i guess I've seen most of the forumers today at the sales gallery... haha..

now can only hope this alam impian flourish in couple of years time....

selling like hot cake...
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I called their sales person on Friday when a lady pick up the phone and said they only accept Bank Draft, i didn't know that they also accept credit card when i call again today another sales person pick-up (a guy). He also said that for Viola Type A only left 1 unit (when i called they are still people on queue) so now Type A is no more. Very frustrated. If i know they do accept credit card, i would queue since 1 AM in the morning.

Anyone willing to let go their Viola Type A to me? (My number is 0122345048 - Mohd).

Thanks

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QUOTE(lock_82 @ Dec 12 2010, 09:15 PM)
I managed to scrap for Type A as it is more cash friendly towards my wallet... and i guess I've seen most of the forumers today at the sales gallery... haha..

now can only hope this alam impian flourish in couple of years time....

selling like hot cake...
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I was there too but didn't buy sad.gif queue number exceed 90+ by the time I reached.

Really surprised by the hot demand. Saw those precious chairs where some bros here queued since last nite. Admire their strong will.


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QUOTE(oc_rooney @ Dec 12 2010, 09:23 PM)
I called their sales person on Friday when a lady pick up the phone and said they only accept Bank Draft, i didn't know that they also accept credit card when i call again today another sales person pick-up (a guy). He also said that for Viola Type A only left 1 unit (when i called they are still people on queue) so now Type A is no more. Very frustrated. If i know they do accept credit card, i would queue since 1 AM in the morning.

Anyone willing to let go their Viola Type A to me? (My number is 0122345048 - Mohd).

Thanks
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i feel sorry for u.. i also just know that we can pay by credit card! that would means we can pay the remaining 10% using credit card as well.... thanks!

keep in touch with the sales office and ask for release unit or default loan applications...good luck!


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I was there too but didn't buy sad.gif queue number exceed 90+ by the time I reached.

Really surprised by the hot demand. Saw those precious chairs where some bros here queued since last nite. Admire their strong will.
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90+ ?? u sure or not? what time?


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I managed to scrap for Type A as it is more cash friendly towards my wallet... and i guess I've seen most of the forumers today at the sales gallery... haha..

now can only hope this alam impian flourish in couple of years time....

selling like hot cake...
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wc to Ttdi AI rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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Try calling them EVERYDAY, I'm sure one of those days, you will be able to secure a unit due to:

1. ppl unable to secure their loan
2. units released by director
3, ppl canceling their bookings

It might be a blessing in disguise as you may actually buy a very good unit!!

Don't wait, even if the salespersons mention that they will call you if there is any units become available.........

Good luck ya

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 13 2010, 12:39 AM)
TTDI Alam Impian ...the next setia eco park/bukit jelutung/usj heights/bandar kinrara  rclxm9.gif


Added on December 13, 2010, 12:49 amTo Rooney and Fluffy

Try calling them EVERYDAY, I'm sure one of those days, you will be able to secure a unit due to:

1. ppl unable to secure their loan
2. units released by director
3, ppl canceling their bookings

It might be a blessing in disguise as you may actually buy a very good unit!!

Don't wait, even if the salespersons mention that they will call you if there is any units become available.........

Good luck ya
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From your opinion, any design flaw in viola that is potentially a deal breaker?
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hi , i wonder if naza ttdi alam impian will have semi d soon.
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hi , i wonder if naza ttdi alam impian will have semi d soon.
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It's in the plan. I think maybe 1-2 years they launch.
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90+ ?? u sure or not? what time?

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I was working on Sunday. Reached there around 4pm. At 430pm only at number 86.
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It's in the plan. I think maybe 1-2 years they launch.
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Will there be more next year I mean in January? Probably superlink?
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Will there be more next year I mean in January? Probably superlink?
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dun c any possibility for such a short notice launch...


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Will there be more next year I mean in January? Probably superlink?
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TTDI usually build something on the ground first and then sell it. I don't see any construction sites going on in TTD AI except Viola. The new launch in TTDI AI will take sometime I guess......
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Lawyer said to me that it would take 2 weeks. Asked me to check with her in 2 weeks time. It's on this Monday for me:)
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Hi Naing,

Is the SPA ready? Can we go and collect it from the lawyer? Thanks.


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Me too pissed off with their efficiency of process SPA. I am also waiting for the stamped SPA to withdraw from EPF. i signed SPA on 26th. I called up developer few days back and he said it is submitted to their Director to sign. He told me that they will only give us the house key once the banker disbursed the money to them and normally banker needs 3 weeks time to process and disburse the money after banker got the stamped SPA. means thant we only can get the key on after Dec 2011.
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Hi Jonaskhoo,

How about you...is your SPA ready yet?

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 14 2010, 10:49 AM)
Hi Naing,
Is the SPA ready? Can we go and collect it from the lawyer? Thanks.

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Hi Jonaskhoo,
How about you...is your SPA ready yet?
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Hi y2kfirewalker,
Just called them, she said my 1 still waiting their director to sign. last week i called also same answer vmad.gif

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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 11:13 AM)
Hi y2kfirewalker,
Just called them, she said my 1 still waiting their director to sign. last week i called also same answer vmad.gif
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In that case, I'm pretty sure me and Naing's SPAs are also not ready yet, as you signed 1 day before me, and Naing 2 days after me.

Why is that the SPA thingy so slow?...just sign also difficult vmad.gif ² (mad power 2 hehe)

Without the SPA, the banks can't do our Loan Agreement, further postponing the loan disbursement, surely this will drag the handing over of the keys !!

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QUOTE(badura @ Dec 14 2010, 09:57 AM)
Will there be more next year I mean in January? Probably superlink?
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Seriously I don't know for real but I did hear that the 3rd one (with the mosque) will launch next year (can't remember which quarter).


QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 14 2010, 11:20 AM)
In that case, I'm pretty sure me and Naing's SPAs are also not ready yet, as you signed 1 day before me, and Naing 2 days after me.

Why is that the SPA thingy so slow?...just sign also difficult  vmad.gif ² (mad power 2 hehe)

Without the SPA, the banks can't do our Loan Agreement, further postponing the loan disbursement, surely this will drag the handing over of the keys !!
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Are your guys being done by Abd Rahman & Partners?
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 14 2010, 11:20 AM)
In that case, I'm pretty sure me and Naing's SPAs are also not ready yet, as you signed 1 day before me, and Naing 2 days after me.

Why is that the SPA thingy so slow?...just sign also difficult  vmad.gif ² (mad power 2 hehe)

Without the SPA, the banks can't do our Loan Agreement, further postponing the loan disbursement, surely this will drag the handing over of the keys !!
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she told me that they got many to process, have to do it slowly batch by batch. and said they are busy with new launch of VIOLA also. she said tried to make it done by today.. mad.gif

yeah.. definately delay our key handover date cos bank needs 3 weeks to disburse the $$.
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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 14 2010, 11:20 AM)
In that case, I'm pretty sure me and Naing's SPAs are also not ready yet, as you signed 1 day before me, and Naing 2 days after me.

Why is that the SPA thingy so slow?...just sign also difficult  vmad.gif ² (mad power 2 hehe)

Without the SPA, the banks can't do our Loan Agreement, further postponing the loan disbursement, surely this will drag the handing over of the keys !!
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I just called Christine for my SPA. She was not there. I am also fed up with their inefficiency.
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 14 2010, 11:56 AM)
I just  called Christine for my SPA. She was not there. I am also fed up with their inefficiency.
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Naing, our SPA are all with developer's director now. maybe the director needs to read thru line by line b4 sign it.
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yeah.. my 1 is done by Abdul rahman partner.
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 12:01 PM)
Naing, our SPA are all with developer's director now. maybe the director needs to read thru line by line b4 sign it.
Rob,
yeah.. my 1 is done by Abdul rahman partner.
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The SPAs are being done by their lawyer, I'm pretty sure its standard for everyone...as such the director shouldn't have to go through line by line ...it is not like customers can modify the SPA ...

Actually buyers opting for developer lawyers are not being represented .. its like the lawyers just do some extra work for us..look at our SPa..it is stated that we are not being represented tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 12:01 PM)
Naing, our SPA are all with developer's director now. maybe the director needs to read thru line by line b4 sign it.
Rob,
yeah.. my 1 is done by Abdul rahman partner.
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Ok now Im concerned. Pls do correct me if wrong. We need the SPA done before can complete Loan Agreement (LA) right? Without LA, bank will not disburse payment correct? I dont know if same but for Viola there is schedule of payment bank need to pay once certain stage of the house is completed. If lets say reach 20% and need to pay 50k in the SPA (if Im not wrong), the payment must get before 21 days, if not there is penalty. Then if SPA not yet done and payment need to do already, we need to pay penalty? What's the risk here?


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QUOTE(RobUlstan @ Dec 14 2010, 12:21 PM)
Ok now Im concerned. Pls do correct me if wrong. We need the SPA done before can complete Loan Agreement (LA) right? Without LA, bank will not disburse payment correct? I dont know if same but for Viola there is schedule of payment bank need to pay once certain stage of the house is completed. If lets say reach 20% and need to pay 50k in the SPA (if Im not wrong), the payment must get before 21 days, if not there is penalty. Then if SPA not yet done and payment need to do already, we need to pay penalty? What's the risk here?
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As far as I know, they counted the days after the SPAs are stamped, so they (the deveoper) delaying signing the SPA signing/stamping shouldn't caused you to bear the penalty (unless the delay in the bank disbursement is longer than the agreed days from the stamping date). So that is not a problem.

But you should know that Malaysian consumers are basically not protected at all. In most big agreements, it is customer at the disadvantage.

For Spira, its completed so their will only be 1 time disbursement.

Under cons like Viola, the payments are disbursed in phases; that you must always monitor. Any delay from bank to developer, they will ask you to bear the interest/cost. Even you are not at fault. Of course you must fight back. Some banks/developers wil bear the cost if you can prove to them you are not at fault. However, most of the time, you will be asked to pay first and claim back later.

This is VERY NORMAL IN MALAYSIA. How I hope one day, Malaysia will be modern enough that consumer protections will be on par with other developed countries.

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QUOTE(RobUlstan @ Dec 14 2010, 12:21 PM)
Ok now Im concerned. Pls do correct me if wrong. We need the SPA done before can complete Loan Agreement (LA) right? Without LA, bank will not disburse payment correct? I dont know if same but for Viola there is schedule of payment bank need to pay once certain stage of the house is completed. If lets say reach 20% and need to pay 50k in the SPA (if Im not wrong), the payment must get before 21 days, if not there is penalty. Then if SPA not yet done and payment need to do already, we need to pay penalty? What's the risk here?
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For Spira is is built and sell and you are right. we need the Stamped SPA b4 can proceed to process LA. then bank normally need 3 weeks to done the LA and dirsburse the money. I am not sure for Viola. so u got 1 for Viola?


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But why the car porch slab has no edge? it is flat and no rain water down pipe hmm.gif

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no worry, water wont splashing out, the car porch slab's edge is higher a bit and there is 1 or 2 holes and water down pipe there.

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QUOTE(y2kfirewalker @ Dec 14 2010, 12:31 PM)
As far as I know, they counted the days after the SPAs are stamped,  so they (the deveoper) delaying signing the SPA signing/stamping shouldn't caused you to bear the penalty (unless the delay in the bank disbursement is longer than the agreed days from the stamping date). So that is not a problem.

But you should know that Malaysian consumers are basically not protected at all. In most big agreements, it is customer at the disadvantage.

For Spira, its completed so their will only be 1 time disbursement.

Under cons like Viola, the payments are disbursed in phases; that you must always monitor. Any delay from bank to developer, they will ask you to bear the interest/cost. Even you are not at fault. Of course you must fight back. Some banks/developers wil bear the cost if you can prove to them you are not at fault. However, most of the time, you will be asked to pay first and claim back later.

This is VERY NORMAL IN MALAYSIA. How I hope one day, Malaysia will be modern enough that consumer protections will be on par with other developed countries.
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Yeah realized Spira should be more straightforward as you guys wont have staggered schedule of payment based on construction completion. I hope I wont have to fork out more money for some other people's mistakes. Will need to keep on my toes with the bank then to ensure they do what they're supposed to do, but first need to get the lawyers to complete the SPA fast.... sweat.gif

QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 12:34 PM)
For Spira is is built and sell and you are right. we need the Stamped SPA b4 can proceed to process LA. then bank normally need 3 weeks to done the LA and dirsburse the money. I am not sure for Viola. so u got 1 for Viola?
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Yup got 1 Viola
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The SPAs are being done by their lawyer, I'm pretty sure its standard for everyone...as such the director shouldn't have to go through line by line ...it is not like customers can modify the SPA ...

Actually buyers opting for developer lawyers are not being represented .. its like the lawyers just do some extra work for us..look at our SPa..it is stated that we are not being represented  tongue.gif
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SPIRA

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But why the car porch slab has no edge? it is flat and no rain water down pipe hmm.gif

problem with rain water splashing in all direction later...

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Hey... Furryfluffy...Which house you broke in to take that pic? Looks like mine... I would sue you if I find out that you broke in my house rclxm9.gif)

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 14 2010, 01:15 PM)
Developer's lawyer got very little from handling our SPA. That's what my bank lawyer told me. That's why we become her last priority....


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Hey... Furryfluffy...Which house you broke in to take that pic? Looks like mine... I would sue you if I find out that you broke in my house rclxm9.gif)
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cry.gif dun sue me... but u must go check ur house fast fast...

the sliding glass door is jammed & cannot close... it's ajar now... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 14 2010, 01:46 PM)
cry.gif dun sue me... but u must go check ur house fast fast...

the sliding glass door is jammed & cannot close... it's ajar now...  unsure.gif
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i can see the opposite house number is 38, and this house must be 36. how can the sliding door is jammed?? naing better check it out immediately..

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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 01:58 PM)
i can see the opposite house number is 38, and this house must be 36. how can the sliding door is jammed?? naing better check it out immediately..
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Clarification: the sliding door was jammed b4 i got there notworthy.gif

i found out only when i tried to close it....

I also cannot explain the evil desire that seduced me into the house... unsure.gif

The spacious and nice white paint interior suddenly became a big black hole... sucking me into the fantasy land ... a fantasy house I would like to call my own...

I was too mesmerized by the beauty... I ventured deeper & deeper... into a labyrinth of pure ecstasy...

Please forgive my intrusion... notworthy.gif

I was overcame by desire sad.gif

But I know in court of law, I am wrong cry.gif

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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 01:58 PM)
i can see the opposite house number is 38, and this house must be 36. how can the sliding door is jammed?? naing better check it out immediately..
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Luckily, it's not my house.smile.gif sliding doors are fine in my house. Only concern with laminated floor. Made noises like walking on actual timber floor while I was walking on them.
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Luckily, it's not my house.smile.gif sliding doors are fine in my house. Only concern with laminated floor. Made noises like walking on actual timber floor while I was walking on them.
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so it's not ur house... shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 14 2010, 02:28 PM)
Clarification: the sliding door was jammed b4 i got there  notworthy.gif

i found out only when i tried to close it....

I also cannot explain the evil desire that seduced me into the house...  unsure.gif

The spacious and nice white paint interior suddenly became a big black hole... sucking me into the fantasy land ... a fantasy house I would like to call my own...

I was too mesmerized by the beauty... I ventured deeper & deeper... into a labyrinth of pure ecstasy...

Please forgive my intrusion... notworthy.gif

I was overcame by desire sad.gif

But I know in court of law, I am wrong cry.gif

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Well, in court of law, ttdi own it 90% and the buyer own it 10%. No specific owner when u broke in. You are off the hook:)

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 14 2010, 03:48 PM)
Luckily, it's not my house.smile.gif sliding doors are fine in my house. Only concern with laminated floor. Made noises like walking on actual timber floor while I was walking on them.
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then whose house with number 36 pls check this out.
i think it should not makes noises if your are barefooted right?
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 14 2010, 03:54 PM)
Well, in court of law, ttdi own it 90% and the buyer own it 10%. No specific owner when u broke in. You are off the hook:)
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hmm.gif ok lar...

QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 03:56 PM)
then whose house with number 36 pls check this out.
i think it should not makes noises if your are barefooted right?
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vacant possession oredi? else owner can check during the handing over.... report as defect unsure.gif
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 14 2010, 03:56 PM)
then whose house with number 36 pls check this out.
i think it should not makes noises if your are barefooted right?
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I was walking on them with walkin shoes:) anyway, the squeaky sounds come out. And looks fragile too.


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doh.gif

so it's not ur house...  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 14 2010, 04:07 PM)
Since you have been inside Spira, any comments, concern?
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nothing much to say...

anyway no offense please notworthy.gif

1) the water feature at the car porch is taking up space... i dun c this as a value-added thing... hard to maintain, need washing etc. prefer to have a longer car porch.

2) dun understand y there is a open air gap near the water feature instead of a full flat slab... rain water splash might be an issue i think...

nothing much to say... quite nice ...
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 14 2010, 04:24 PM)
hmm.gif

nothing much to say...

anyway no offense please notworthy.gif

1) the water feature at the car porch is taking up space... i dun c this as a value-added thing... hard to maintain, need washing etc.  prefer to have a longer car porch.

2) dun understand y there is a open air gap near the water feature instead of a full flat slab... rain water splash might be an issue i think...

nothing much to say... quite nice ...
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It's planter box for planting plants & flowers. I thought like you till I found a water drainage inside it. Then open air gap make sense as to let rain fall directly on plants.
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 14 2010, 04:37 PM)
It's planter box for planting plants & flowers. I thought like you till I found a water drainage inside it. Then open air gap make sense as to let rain fall directly on plants.
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Ok then... my bad...

I went to I&P... the car porch is pebblewash and has a thicker slab & column. Saw ppl using it as an extension for the master bedroom balcony.

I&P has not much design internally... no internal garden but the 2nd floor is very very high.... can make another attics. The family area in I&P is larger but bedroom smaller.

right? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Dec 14 2010, 04:44 PM)
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Ok then... my bad...

I went to I&P... the car porch is pebblewash and has a thicker slab & column. Saw ppl using it as an extension for the master bedroom balcony.

I&P has not much design internally... no internal garden but the 2nd floor is very very high.... can make another attics. The family area in I&P is larger but bedroom smaller.

right?  unsure.gif
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Totally agree with you. From outside, I&P canting looks classy. Gate, car porch & pebblewash floor make them look much better than Spira. From inside, they look gloomy & too simple. I like the material they used though.
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 14 2010, 05:07 PM)
Totally agree with you. From outside, I&P canting looks classy. Gate, car porch & pebblewash floor make them look much better than Spira. From inside, they look gloomy & too simple. I like the material they used though.
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here comes the ID and furnishing i guess.... laugh.gif

I&P is more conventional.. where ppl like squarish and basic layout. Material wise, i saw the switches & 13A SSO all got the specially engraved/printed I&P AI logo...

The DB for I&P is steel and all cables are concealed but located behind the main door. SPIRA DB made of plastic/PVC and located in storeroom. The cables are covered with surface mounted orange MS trunking.

I&P has the security alarm box ready but SPIRA need to buy separately. However, a telephone RJ11 outlet oredi available at the storeroom next to the DB for CMS.

SPIRA master bathroom shower is next to the door. I&P master bathroom is at far end with glass partition & door. The basin counter for I&P is pebblewash & SPIRA is solid surface (i guess...?)

kenot compare orange & apple... nod.gif

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Good news.. I just called them, my SPA already signed by their director and will send to lawyer for stamping today.
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Excerpt from The Star, 15 Dec... 95% sold in one day? Way to go Viola.....



Naza TTDI takes modern living to greater heights at TTDI Alam Impian

Following the successful launch of TTDI Alam Impian’s SPIRA, the township’s first phase of residential development which completely sold out in only three days, NAZA TTDI is now geared to further raise the benchmark of modern living with the unveiling of VIOLA.

The launch of VIOLA marks the developer’s second residential development phase for its Alam Impian township that promises to offer home owners a unique urban living experience that’s ideal for the modern family. Setting itself apart from conventional townships, this new precinct will bear four different elegant contemporary home layouts encircling pockets of parks to provide residents with wholesome and vibrant community living.

In conjunction with the unveiling of TTDI Alam Impian’s Viola held recently, close to 200 property enthusiasts attended the event where almost 95% of NAZA TTDI’s VIOLA homes have been booked by eager home buyers, all in just one day.

Offering several designs and layout plans, the VIOLA homes have spacious built up areas ranging from 1,952sq ft to 3,116sq ft. Located strategically in Shah Alam, these VIOLA homes are also easily accessible via several highways such as, NKVE, KESAS, ELITE as well as the newly completed LKSA highway.


According to group managing director SM Faliq SM Nasimuddin, “Tremendous amount of thought and research have gone into the planning and design of these homes to complement the whole concept of TTDI Alam Impian. Our aim as a passionate and innovative developer is to create a sanctuary for home owners that offers the convenience of contemporary living with the warmth and familiarity of a traditional neighbourhood. We are certain that with VIOLA, we are one step closer to reaching our aim of making TTDI Alam Impian the township of choice for growing modern families in and around Shah Alam.”

Faliq further adds that he is encouraged by the overwhelming response received during the launch and several NAZA TTDI launches that came before it. “It is a testament to the strength of our brand and of the products we put forward. We are always looking for ways and means to better ourselves.

This is reflected in what we offer to our purchasers. Customer satisfaction is what we stress upon in this organisation. In any development we embark upon, we also take into consideration what can be benefitted by the community there and the surrounding areas. I promise that NAZA TTDI is a developer that delivers quality and value, each and every time. What I can say is look out for our upcoming launches!”

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Good news.. I just called them, my SPA already signed by their director and will send to lawyer for stamping today.
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Excerpt from The Star, 15 Dec...  95% sold in one day? Way to go Viola.....

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 15 2010, 12:30 PM)
Excerpt from The Star, 15 Dec...  95% sold in one day? Way to go Viola.....

In conjunction with the unveiling of TTDI Alam Impian’s Viola held recently, close to 200 property enthusiasts attended the event where almost 95% of NAZA TTDI’s VIOLA homes have been booked by eager home buyers, all in just one day.

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laugh.gif i was one of the statistic

congrates to those who bought a unit thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the update.. so I guess we can get the stamped SPA by next week ... unless the lawyer can do the stamping quickly
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Don't count on the lawyer. I keep calling her and leave her many many messages to return my call but no reply.
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Don't count on the lawyer. I keep calling her and leave her many many messages to return my call but no reply.
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yea.. i agreed with u. so far i only due with Christine. she looks like dont even like to reply customer email. I had emailed her b4 to ask abt the SPA and also some other questions. I had to send few times email and purposely highlighted "please answer my question" then she only reply. this is very bad service. She just reply me that they need 3 days to get it stamped. after my second "force" reply email. vmad.gif
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Due to my loan stucked by the bank, i gotta let go back my Type E (Facimg Playground) Spira Unit.. sighh sad.gif There it goes my dream house.. sad.gif
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Due to my loan stucked by the bank, i gotta let go back my Type E (Facimg Playground) Spira Unit.. sighh sad.gif There it goes my dream house.. sad.gif
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sorry to heard this. what is the lot no? do u able to get back ur money?
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sorry to heard this. what is the lot no? do u able to get back ur money?
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according to the snp, one will lost the 10k if this happens....
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Yeah the booking fee goes up in smoke.
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QUOTE(ingky @ Dec 15 2010, 10:47 PM)
Yeah the booking fee goes up in smoke.
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I have almost 20 pm-ed about buying my unit.. That was fast.. The developer told me if i can find another buyer as a replacement, then i gotta make an official letter to change the name so that the new buyer can start applying loan from the bank.. But right now all offering something extra to me to secure the unit.. so whoever has the highest, will let go the the person.. As for now, im looking at some other property.. sad.gif i'm dying to get this unit, but its not my time yet.. I've been there like 5 times already to checked out the area, unit, location and etc.. As far as my concern, my unit can be sold easily by RM650k by mid next year.. Facing Inner Garden/Playground somemore.. Type E is the biggest in Spira.. cry.gif i'm super sad now.. Haihz..

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QUOTE(streetkid @ Dec 16 2010, 04:45 AM)
I have almost 20 pm-ed about buying my unit.. That was fast.. The developer told me if i can find another buyer as a replacement, then i gotta make an official letter to change the name so that the new buyer can start applying loan from the bank.. But right now all offering something extra to me to secure the unit.. so whoever has the highest, will let go the the person.. As for now, im looking at some other property.. sad.gif i'm dying to get this unit, but its not my time yet.. I've been there like 5 times already to checked out the area, unit, location and etc.. As far as my concern, my unit can be sold easily by RM650k by mid next year.. Facing Inner Garden/Playground somemore.. Type E is the biggest in Spira..  cry.gif i'm super sad now.. Haihz..
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Blessing in disguise...

i bet the price of the unit has also appreciated and you will recover the depostit as well as some handsome easy profit nod.gif

Hope u get ur dream home soon smile.gif

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i'm very upset with the way Naza TTDI handling our s&p matters. never thought the big developer like this will have such a lousy workers. they took almost 3 weeks to just get the s&p signed and only tomorrow they send to the lawyers. when customer call and request for them to expediate the process, they get emotionally attached and blame customer on it. vmad.gif

i definately will file a complaint on that particular dept.
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 16 2010, 11:45 AM)
i'm very upset with the way Naza TTDI handling our s&p matters. never thought the big developer like this will have such a lousy workers. they took almost 3 weeks to just get the s&p signed and only tomorrow they send to the lawyers. when customer call and request for them to expediate the process, they get emotionally attached and blame customer on it.  vmad.gif

i definately will file a complaint on that particular dept.
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you called them today and get blame by them? this is bad!
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 16 2010, 11:50 AM)
you called them today and get blame by them? this is bad!
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i called them on monday, and ask them why a long delay in the process. they keep mentioning that pending in the director to sign (i doubt it, so i will send an email to their director with regards to this). but to be honest, i dont think the delay was due to the director to sign. its their process. they keep mentioning they have 2 staff only to handle hundreds of file , at which should i care???. if they are understaff, should hire more. its plain business theory.

i dont mind if i have other place to stay, but i really need my loan to settle as soon as possible. i even anticipate my loan could be disburse by end of december. but not sure about that anymore. i'm wasting 3 plain weeks just because of their inefficiency. other small developer can settle this less than 1 weeks!.

and my lawyer (loan lawyer) called them the next day to check on the s&p, and she get scolded. she surprise because she asked politely. and when she ask why they scold them, they mentioned because i called them yesterday (monday) and 'scold' them. at which as far i remember, i never scold them, but i ask and push them to settle the s&p as soon as possible. i'm very upset with their manner in handling our s&p. they take it very lightly.

i will do the complaint, so that they take it seriously next time. hopefully the new buyer would not suffer the pain of waiting.
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 16 2010, 12:15 PM)
i called them on monday, and ask them why a long delay in the process. they keep mentioning that pending in the director to sign (i doubt it, so i will send an email to their director with regards to this). but to be honest, i dont think the delay was due to the director to sign. its their process. they keep mentioning they have 2 staff only to handle hundreds of file , at which should i care???. if they are understaff, should hire more. its plain business theory.

i dont mind if i have other place to stay, but i really need my loan to settle as soon as possible. i even anticipate my loan could be disburse by end of december. but not sure about that anymore. i'm wasting 3 plain weeks just because of their inefficiency.  other small developer can settle this less than 1 weeks!.

and my lawyer (loan lawyer) called them the next day to check on the s&p, and she get scolded. she surprise because she asked politely. and when she ask why they scold them, they mentioned because i called them yesterday (monday) and 'scold' them. at which as far i remember, i never scold them, but i ask and push them to settle the s&p as soon as possible. i'm very upset with their manner in handling our s&p. they take it very lightly.

i will do the complaint, so that they take it seriously next time. hopefully the new buyer would not suffer the pain of waiting.
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How do you plan to complain? I want to join. I have been calling the lawyer since Monday. No response. Fed up with it.
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How do you plan to complain? I want to join. I have been calling the lawyer since Monday. No response. Fed up with it.
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i would like to join too..
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i would like to join too..
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Just talked to the lawyer. My spa is at law firm. They will send it land office tomorrow morning & I can pick up the stamped spa from the lawyer tomorrow evening. You guys could force her to do the same so that our spa will be ready by tomorrow.
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 16 2010, 02:54 PM)
Just talked to the lawyer. My spa is at law firm. They will send it land office tomorrow morning & I can pick up the stamped spa from the lawyer tomorrow evening. You guys could force her to do the same so that our spa will be ready by tomorrow.
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naing, u talk to who? i want to call them too.
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naing, u talk to who? i want to call them too.
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Just pm-ed you. Check it out.
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Just pm-ed you. Check it out.
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Thanks naing. think to collect it tomorrow then can proceed to EPF and loan lawyer on sat.
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Thanks naing. think to collect it tomorrow then can proceed to EPF and loan lawyer on sat.
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how was it? everything settle?
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how was it? everything settle?
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collected stamped SPA on fri evening and successfully applied EPF withdrawal on sat morning. my loan lawyer not working on sat, so have to sign the loan agreement on next week. everything consider go smoothly.
BTW today i went to SPIRA and noticed the are building the anti-climb fence. they are setting up the febce iron rods with 6ft height. pls see the photo
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i think the so-called directors' and staff lots have been opened for public. drop by their sales office to grab one or two.

i just booked one drool.gif
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i think the so-called directors' and staff lots have been opened for public. drop by their sales office to grab one or two.

i just booked one  drool.gif
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oh really? which lot u booked? with same price?
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 20 2010, 11:17 AM)
oh really? which lot u booked? with same price?
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3 units snapped up last week on friday. the units near guarhouse, facing playground, lot 77, 82 and and the corner lot 84.

same price as before.

and they claimed they are opened another 3 on friday.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 20 2010, 09:07 AM)
i think the so-called directors' and staff lots have been opened for public. drop by their sales office to grab one or two.

i just booked one  drool.gif
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It's the trick that the most developers do these days to create a sold-out for a new launch. They hold houses in nice location and release them later. It's extremely unfair for people who queue very long time to get their houses at launch date.
And it's disrespectful to the owners who got not that nice location during the launch. If you don't like the location of your houses, you should go and complain to TTDI and exchange them with whatever they have.
In I&P AI, you could do that. I am not sure about TTDI though...
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 20 2010, 11:29 AM)
3 units snapped up last week on friday. the units near guarhouse, facing playground, lot 77, 82 and and the corner lot 84.

same price as before.

and they claimed they are opened another 3 on friday.
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i think most of the unit is made available due to the loan problem by the buyer. thats what i heard from the sales man. its great oppurtunity for people to buy house lot that was booked by queue people (which i anticipate the location wise will be very well chosen tongue.gif ).


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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 20 2010, 11:29 AM)
3 units snapped up last week on friday. the units near guarhouse, facing playground, lot 77, 82 and and the corner lot 84.

same price as before.

and they claimed they are opened another 3 on friday.
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huh?! this is very unfair.. lot 82 is the 1 i aimed b4 launching. lot 77 also.. now they just released them like that. really not fair for those queue up there over night.
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 20 2010, 11:44 AM)
huh?! this is very unfair.. lot 82 is the 1 i aimed b4 launching. lot 77 also.. now they just released them like that. really not fair for those queue up there over night.
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I know! I went to the sales office last week on friday then i asked them to hold the lot 82 so that i could get the bank draft done.

got back and the unit was taken! anyway wont go into details of how pissed i was with them on that day.

anyway, i think it's common for them to release some nice units to directors and staff. my lawyer told me they got like 7% discount so I guess they will get 30k minimum easily! easy money for them and yes, it's unfair.

i think the idea is to gamble a bit. to wait for people who didnt get loan and directors releasing the units.

the perks of being developers!

but do check out today i was informed 3 more are being released!
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just would like to know , are these units sold at the launch price or they have mark it up ?
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QUOTE(71ers @ Dec 20 2010, 12:02 PM)
just would like to know , are these units sold at the launch price or they have mark it up ?
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bro.. as mentioned by jeghui, it is selling with same price.
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 19 2010, 01:03 AM)
collected stamped SPA on fri evening and successfully applied EPF withdrawal on sat morning. my loan lawyer not working on sat, so have to sign the loan agreement on next week. everything consider go smoothly.
BTW today i went to SPIRA and noticed the are building the anti-climb fence. they are setting up the febce iron rods with 6ft height. pls see the photo
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ya.. looks like everything look like in order... anything on the guard post? can't see in the pic u post smile.gif
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QUOTE(71ers @ Dec 20 2010, 12:02 PM)
just would like to know , are these units sold at the launch price or they have mark it up ?
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you guys have any idea how much the rent rate is going to be? need to absorb the repayment a bit. thumbup.gif
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ya.. looks like everything look like in order... anything on the guard post? can't see in the pic u post smile.gif
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I can see the guard house exterior structure is almost 80% done. hope they will use card access system instead of using hand wave system tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 20 2010, 04:24 PM)
I can see the guard house exterior structure is almost 80% done. hope they will use card access system instead of using hand wave system  tongue.gif
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hehe i doubt it's gonna be that canggih. after two years, spira people must come together and pay the guards.

i wonder how much!
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 20 2010, 04:35 PM)
hehe i doubt it's gonna be that canggih. after two years, spira people must come together and pay the guards.

i wonder how much!
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I also donno will it be that canggih or not, anybody got ask developer b4 abt this?
i think we have to pay 100++ every month after 2 years later..
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wouldn't it be nice if they make common swimming pool for each enclave rather than lame badminton courts?
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 20 2010, 04:50 PM)
wouldn't it be nice if they make common swimming pool for each enclave rather than lame badminton courts?
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haha.. swimming pool will build in the club house in future i think.
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haha.. swimming pool will build in the club house in future i think.
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has anyone got the Hi-Res copy of Alam Impian Master Plan?

Can't read at all from the I&P website.
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has anyone got the Hi-Res copy of Alam Impian Master Plan?

Can't read at all from the I&P website.
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I can only see the TTDI master plan model from their sales office.
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has anyone got the Hi-Res copy of Alam Impian Master Plan?

Can't read at all from the I&P website.
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I have been looking for it through internet but nowhere to be found. Used to have the small scale model in I&P showroom though.
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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Dec 20 2010, 09:05 PM)
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We were talking about Alam Impian master plan... not just TTDI Alam Impian.

And that TTDI master plan is all wrong as they marks all DSL areas as Spira but we now know that some part of Spira mentioned in the master plan is Viola too.

TTDI should pay more attention on web design. Now it's all confusing instead of being useful....
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Hi fellas,

I went to the actual site of Spira and visited the show unit. Quite impressive. The only drawback I can see now is the toll booth beginning & ending at the doorstep of Alam Impian.

I have a question about the whole of Alam Impian. The toll booth is really huge, and I believe its built to accommodate future expansions in that area not just only for Alam Impian or else its a waste of infrastructure to have that big toll booth only serving the residents there.

So what would be the plan beyond Alam Impian boundaries? As naing posted AI masterplan, it would be interesting to know what do we have beyond that. Will it be linking to another township or etc?

Any clue or information is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Hi fellas,

I went to the actual site of Spira and visited the show unit. Quite impressive. The only drawback I can see now is the toll booth beginning & ending at the doorstep of Alam Impian.

I have a question about the whole of Alam Impian. The toll booth is really huge, and I believe its built to accommodate future expansions in that area not just only for Alam Impian or else its a waste of infrastructure to have that big toll booth only serving the residents there.

So what would be the plan beyond Alam Impian boundaries? As naing posted AI masterplan, it would be interesting to know what do we have beyond that. Will it be linking to another township or etc?

Any clue or information is greatly appreciated.

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The back roads from AI (1 from I&P AI and 1 next to TTDI AI) are linked to Jalan Kebun. You could check them from google map.
Nowadays, many motorists who are travelling between Klang and KESAS tend to pay 60 cents in AI toll instead of RM 2.20 in Bukit Rimau toll. These motorists drive pass Spira and come out in Jalan Kebun. From there, Klang is quite close. The link between Spira to Jalan Kebun is not that good at this moment though.
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For Viola any status update? I called the lawyers and they said the SPA with the developer's director for signing. Anybody paid the DP yet? I asked Naza TTDI and the guy does not really know when's the dateline...
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For Viola any status update? I called the lawyers and they said the SPA with the developer's director for signing. Anybody paid the DP yet? I asked Naza TTDI and the guy does not really know when's the dateline...
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Yeah, i wish to know by when we need to pay the balance of the 10%, i signed the S&P on 12/12/10 . Any adv ?
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signed S&P agreement today with the lawyer. 10% all paid. now to get the loan quickest possible. hopefully can get the keys end january. smile.gif.

as for viola i could see it's being built quite quickly.

as for the huge, beautiful toll entrance, is it not City of the Arts? I do hope they will open a shopping mall in Alam Impian WITH cinemas.

Films are part of art, right? (keep hoping to have the first cinema in Shah Alam)
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Thanks for the info. Not familiar with the place but from google map I can see that its next to kota kemuning (do they have any access road?) and towards Klang town. Do you know what will be the development like behind Spira? Maintain as estate land or going to have something there?

QUOTE(naing @ Dec 21 2010, 12:10 PM)
The back roads from AI (1 from I&P AI and 1 next to TTDI AI) are linked to Jalan Kebun. You could check them from google map.
Nowadays, many motorists who are travelling between Klang and KESAS tend to pay 60 cents in AI toll instead of RM 2.20 in Bukit Rimau toll. These motorists drive pass Spira and come out in Jalan Kebun. From there, Klang is quite close. The link between Spira to Jalan Kebun is not that good at this moment though.
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Added on December 21, 2010, 9:59 pmDo you mean that a shopping mall is in the master plan?

QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 21 2010, 09:46 PM)
signed S&P agreement today with the lawyer. 10% all paid. now to get the loan quickest possible. hopefully can get the keys end january. smile.gif.

as for viola i could see it's being built quite quickly.

as for the huge, beautiful toll entrance, is it not City of the Arts? I do hope they will open a shopping mall in Alam Impian WITH cinemas.

Films are part of art, right? (keep hoping to have the first cinema in Shah Alam)
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Thanks for the info. Not familiar with the place but from google map I can see that its next to kota kemuning (do they have any access road?) and towards Klang town. Do you know what will be the development like behind Spira? Maintain as estate land or going to have something there?

Added on December 21, 2010, 9:59 pmDo you mean that a shopping mall is in the master plan?
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thats why I was asking about the hi-res master plan for alam impian. i searched all around the internet, could only find the low-res ones. can't read the wordings.

the only way to find out is to go to I&P alam impian sales office in AI. I will make a trip there one day and perhaps ask about future launches.

i was informed spira has got another two lots on sale. the buyer cancelled the bookings and forfeited the fee.
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I am more interested in the semi-D development, but will come later next year, according to the sales person. So I need to do a bit of research about the place as I am not too familiar with the surrounding's pro and cons as I am from PJ my whole life hardly venture to klang or shah alam too often. smile.gif


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today developer just called me asked for the loan offer letter (cos my loan lawyer is not their panel lawyer). this is 1st time i got their call. just wonder whether they are preparing the key for us
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QUOTE(jonaskhoo @ Dec 21 2010, 10:33 PM)
today developer just called me asked for the loan offer letter (cos my loan lawyer is not their panel lawyer). this is 1st time i got their call. just wonder whether they are preparing the key for us
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I heard from the sales men that they are in the final stage of touching up the house, and finish up the perimeter fencing as well as the guard house. which i think the key would be release any soon. even heard they try to convince their management to have some sort of 'key-giving ceremony'. which i think it'll very fun. hope my loan could be disburse before the allocated time. Now a lil bit delay, because they hold S&P for more than 2 weeks, before get stamped. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Psabsorber @ Dec 21 2010, 07:08 PM)
Yeah, i wish to know by when we need to pay the balance of the 10%, i signed the S&P on 12/12/10 . Any adv ?
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In Spira case, we paid the deposit 10k at the time we booked the house(for some who booked their house at launch, it was in August) and waited till TTDI sent us letters to come and sign S&P with 10% of the price of the house minus deposit in end of November. After you signed S&P with lawyer, again waited for 3 weeks to get the S&P back.
We just got our S&P back!
I hope you guys don't have to go trough what we gone through..


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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 21 2010, 10:08 PM)
thats why I was asking about the hi-res master plan for alam impian. i searched all around the internet, could only find the low-res ones. can't read the wordings.

the only way to find out is to go to I&P alam impian sales office in AI. I will make a trip there one day and perhaps ask about future launches.

i was informed spira has got another two lots on sale. the buyer cancelled the bookings and forfeited the fee.
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I tried to look through the Alam Impian master plan as much as I could and found out that the big land between the lake and the roundabout on the way to TTDI AI is labelled as Commercial/Business lot. That area could be for big shopping center or business center, I guess. The land across that big lot is already labelled for shoplots and other commercial activities. And fire station, police station and town hall is also around that roundabout.

I guess the roundabout we usually cross when we go to TTDI alam impian(not the first roundabout after toll) will be the center of AI and TTDI AI may not be that deep inside afterall.

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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 22 2010, 08:16 AM)
I heard from the sales men that they are in the final stage of touching up the house, and finish up the perimeter fencing as well as the guard house. which i think the key would be release any soon. even heard they try to convince their management to have some sort of 'key-giving ceremony'. which i think it'll very fun. hope my loan could be disburse before the allocated time. Now a lil bit delay, because they hold S&P for more than 2 weeks, before get stamped.  cry.gif
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I don wan any key-giving ceremony la.. it is wasting our time. just pass the key to us ASAP then i would tongue.gif happy..
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 22 2010, 08:16 AM)
I heard from the sales men that they are in the final stage of touching up the house, and finish up the perimeter fencing as well as the guard house. which i think the key would be release any soon. even heard they try to convince their management to have some sort of 'key-giving ceremony'. which i think it'll very fun. hope my loan could be disburse before the allocated time. Now a lil bit delay, because they hold S&P for more than 2 weeks, before get stamped.  cry.gif
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Well, I don't have the mood for the key-giving ceremony as I am still upset with waiting 3 weeks to get S&P back. My loan lawyer is preparing loan agreement document and hopefully, i can sign it this week. Then, wait for a few weeks (some says 3 weeks, my banker says 6 weeks) for the bank to release the money to the developer.

I am not sure how Maybank holding our master title is going to affect us in release timing. My banker told me that the release time will be double if the banks involved in both buyer and seller sides.

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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 22 2010, 09:45 AM)
Well, I don't have the mood for the key-giving ceremony as I am still upset with waiting 3 weeks to get S&P back. My loan lawyer is preparing loan agreement document and hopefully, i can sign it this week. Then, wait for a few weeks (some says 3 weeks, my banker says 6 weeks) for the bank to release the money to the developer.

I am not sure how Maybank holding our master title is going to affect us in release timing. My banker told me that the release time will be double if the banks involved in both buyer and seller sides.
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actually, your loan lawyer can prepare the loan agreement while waiting for the stamped s&p. u can even signed the loan agreement before getting the s&p. so this might help to expediate the process a lil bit.

and its true that our banker need the disclaimer letter from Maybank, because Naza TTDi still haven't settle the payment with regards to the financing for our Spira. I think if they work efficiently, it will not take a long time for Maybank for come out with those letters. *finger crossed* wink.gif
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 22 2010, 10:05 AM)
actually, your loan lawyer can prepare the loan agreement while waiting for the stamped s&p. u can even signed the loan agreement before getting the s&p. so this might help to expediate the process a lil bit.

and its true that our banker need the disclaimer letter from Maybank, because Naza TTDi still haven't settle the payment with regards to the financing for our Spira. I think if they work efficiently, it will not take a long time for Maybank for come out with those letters. *finger crossed*  wink.gif
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for my case, my loan lawyer will only allow me to sign Loan agreemenr with stamped SPA. indeed they can prepare the Loan agreement 1st based on the SPA softcopy that i got from SPA lawyer earlier on. Agree with the inefficiency they are having now.
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 22 2010, 08:16 AM)
I heard from the sales men that they are in the final stage of touching up the house, and finish up the perimeter fencing as well as the guard house. which i think the key would be release any soon. even heard they try to convince their management to have some sort of 'key-giving ceremony'. which i think it'll very fun. hope my loan could be disburse before the allocated time. Now a lil bit delay, because they hold S&P for more than 2 weeks, before get stamped.  cry.gif
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Don't expect handover of the keys soon. earliest end of january. i was informed by the milf, i mean the sales manager. tongue.gif
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Don't expect handover of the keys soon. earliest end of january. i was informed by the milf, i mean the sales manager. tongue.gif
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aaa downnnn cry.gif ... i wish to get the key earlier, so that i can have ample time for lamp & fan installation. i already ask the sales person, he said the key might be handed over mid-end jan.. i really hope they can pass the key on mid jan.

Although few stuff works inefficiently, but i think overal they have quite a good team. kudos to Naza TTDI notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(engm85 @ Dec 22 2010, 12:11 PM)
aaa downnnn  cry.gif ... i wish to get the key earlier, so that i can have ample time for lamp & fan installation. i already ask the sales person, he said the key might be handed over mid-end jan.. i really hope they can pass the key on mid jan.

Although few stuff works inefficiently, but i think overal they have quite a good team. kudos to Naza TTDI  notworthy.gif
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anyone know AI got unifi service now? without internet donno how to survive there..
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anyone know AI got unifi service now? without internet donno how to survive there..
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Internet yes. Unifi not yet.


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hi, i just gotten a unit in Spira last week. Looking for loan right now. Any good recommendation on this? fast approval & attractive rates...
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hi, i just gotten a unit in Spira last week. Looking for loan right now. Any good recommendation on this? fast approval & attractive rates...
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I must ask, did you get the lot 82? for own stay or investment?


Added on December 25, 2010, 1:40 pmwent to see the place again yesterday the guard house has not been completed and the walls are not put up yet as well.

still think its building architecture is the deal sealer. still dun get I&P's style

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nope... my unit is 22X70 type B1
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nope... my unit is 22X70 type B1
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so u also got it from so call "Director released" right? any more units release by this week?
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yes..exactly! if not mistaken, there is still have few units left...
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ive got one spira last week and now im not sure ive made the right decision. i like the design but i felt cheated when they didn't release the dimension earlier.

1. they said it's a director's release. but how can they be too many? 3 during my time and 3 the next time. is it like a scam?

2. the sales people were acting strangely as if forcely trying to sell the lot, pretending that this man, Mr Tan is on his way to take the lot if i did not book. i felt pressured.

3. for 436k, i got one with 20x70 and 1870 sq ft build up. what if the loan valuers saw it as 350k only? i wont be getting the right loan amount then! the building plan and dimension and specs were only shown after i handed over the bank draft.

4. unprofessional, unprofessional, lying snakes sales people. the sharifah tried to pit the blame on me when I lost out on one lot and forced to take another of the same row. no compensation given, no rebates, not even cold water to cool me down. syed later did nothing but was trying to fool an old timer like me like im some kind of idiot. he was the one who pretended someone is coming to snatch the lot if i didn't agree.

please, anyone, anyone, convince me that i got a good deal, buying this spira. i dont believe anymore that the properties were sold out in three days back then in august when in truth, there are more units being 'released'.

hope to hear your opinion on this.
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Apparently the TTDI staffs took 30+ units of Spira before they were open for public.. and they are slowly giving them out.. I wonder why is that case????

but backing the TTDI on compensation shouldn't be given otherwise it is not fair to others buyers.. as the price is the same when they launch earlier..
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Apparently the TTDI staffs took 30+ units of Spira before they were open for public.. and they are slowly giving them out.. I wonder why is that case????

but backing the TTDI on compensation shouldn't be given otherwise it is not fair to others buyers.. as the price is the same when they launch earlier..
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Yeah I also got 2 units last week for the 24x75...im also becoming suspicious of their sales tactics...are these unit genuince cancellation due to loan not approved or they are just holiding them and slowly release later on.....even for the new launching viola i was told at leat 8 corner lots not sold yet...but then in the newspapers the claimed sold in 3 days! hmm.gif

Anybody got any other concerns on these spira units? I have not been there actually but i saw the pictures in iproperty looks quite nice...but how about that tar factory that someone mentioned before...can anyone still smell the smoke over there?

now the lawyer pressuring me to sign S&P next week....should i sign before getting loan approval?? I have doubts now....appreciate your help.
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Let me relate my experience...

I've been to the sales office bout 2 weeks ago, and got to know Syed. Myself & my aunty is interested, and we plan to get two houses. However, there is still no available units then & Syed did mentioned to me that I can wait for those backout buyer (those can't get loan). He also promised to call me if there's any available units.

After a few days, Syed called me & informed me that there's 3 units available! One corner lot (1st house), another two intermediate units are also in the same row. My aunty is interested in the corner lot & I like the intermediate unit as it is facing the gardens, but we need some time to finalise the decision & get the bank draft ready. So Syed agreed to keep these units for us till the next day.

I've called the sales office the next day to confirm & inform them that I'll be there after work to make the payment. I rushed there directly from Shah Alam after work. Sadly, as I'm approching the Batu Tiga Toll, Syed called and inform me of a bad news. The unit that I wanted was sold!!!!! He do apologise and explained that this is an emergency management decision. Honestly I'm a bit dissappointed, but this is what we usually meant as 1st come 1st serve!

After two days, Syed called me again & informed me that there is another 2 better & bigger units available (which was released by their directors). Without 2nd thoughts, I rushed there for the payment as I do not want the tragic to happen again..

When I'm at the sales office, Syed do apologise again for what happend the other day. According to him, there's someone making a big fuss at the office the other day, that is why their manager actually let the man have my reserved unit.

Come to think about it, I really have to say thank you to the man who took my unit the other day. As the current unit (released by one of the director by the name of ....SM ...) that I bought is bigger and I really like it! Maybe this is what we called by blessing in disguise.
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Kudos to Syed & all the TTDI management.


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QUOTE(jeffryjo69 @ Dec 26 2010, 04:26 PM)
Yeah I also got 2 units last week for the 24x75...im also becoming suspicious of their sales tactics...are these unit genuince cancellation due to loan not approved or they are just holiding them and slowly release later on.....even for the new launching viola i was told at leat 8 corner lots not sold yet...but then in the newspapers the claimed sold in 3 days!  hmm.gif
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actually there's no news saying they were sold out in 3 days for viola. thats spira. viola, the paper said "95% booked on launch day"
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Thanks vict.....but this is something that i dont understand....how come they have so many director units??

these units were booked by the directors n later released to the market? why is that? the directors didnt get the loan approved by the bank?..why so many director units while they should have sold to the interested buyers when spira was launched in august??

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QUOTE(vict @ Dec 26 2010, 04:27 PM)
When I'm at the sales office, Syed do apologise again for what happend the other day. According to him, there's someone making a big fuss at the office the other day, that is why their manager actually let the man have my reserved unit.

Come to think about it, I really have to say thank you to the man who took my unit the other day. As the current unit (released by one of the director by the name of ....SM ...) that I bought is bigger and I really like it! Maybe this is what we called by blessing in disguise.
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are you talking about lot 77, 82 and 84 (corner lot)?

and how do you know the director was SM?

I understand 'bigger' unit but i dun understand 'better' as the lot you wanted facing garden.


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QUOTE(jeffryjo69 @ Dec 26 2010, 04:43 PM)
Thanks vict.....but this is something that i dont understand....how come they have so many director units??

these units were booked by the directors n later released to the market? why is that? the directors didnt get the loan approved by the bank?..why so many director units while they should have sold to the interested buyers when spira was launched in august??
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directors and staff can book some units and they can buy it at a discount when they want to. i was informed they usually enjoy 7% discount on the properties they bought. but same as u, i dunno why they let go later. pity those ppl who queued overnight before launch.

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QUOTE(jeffryjo69 @ Dec 26 2010, 04:43 PM)
Thanks vict.....but this is something that i dont understand....how come they have so many director units??

these units were booked by the directors n later released to the market? why is that? the directors didnt get the loan approved by the bank?..why so many director units while they should have sold to the interested buyers when spira was launched in august??
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hi jeff, please be informed 40% of the Spira's unit eventually been booked by their directors in the first place without need to pay a single cent...
so when it's coming to the end of the completion, they just let go the units whereby they still can book for the new coming phases...
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jenghui....
yes i was referring to spira soldout in 3 days....is this some kind of marketing trick?...by holding so may units under 'directors units' then it is not right to claim it that way...unless the directors or staff really intended to buy those unit but their loan was not approved or they got stuck due to the max 70% limit for 3rd house.
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QUOTE(jeffryjo69 @ Dec 26 2010, 04:59 PM)
jenghui....
yes i was referring to spira soldout in 3 days....is this some kind of marketing trick?...by holding so may units under 'directors units' then it is not right to claim it that way...unless the directors or staff really intended to buy those unit but their loan was not approved or they got stuck due to the max 70% limit for 3rd house.
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yeah i agree with you. the only explanation i can find is so that they can claim all units are sold out in no time, to bolster its marketing, advertising, press advantage. i think this is a normal way of doing by all developers. im sure under table money also involved in this way. (Im not accusing naza ttdi, just relating stories i heard from other companies)

wont go details on that but it happens.

what have we become?
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 26 2010, 04:50 PM)
are you talking about lot 77, 82 and 84 (corner lot)?

and how do you know the director was SM?

I understand 'bigger' unit but i dun understand 'better' as the lot you wanted facing garden.

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They have shown me the booking form & system report and confirm is from one of the director which was booked earlier...
I still remember the name of the director but I can't name it...

"Bigger" & "Better" as in I get the bigger built-up at the same time still facing the garden & a tad more privacy than the first unit that I want...
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QUOTE(vict @ Dec 26 2010, 05:10 PM)
They have shown me the booking form & system report and confirm is from one of the director which was booked earlier...
I still remember the name of the director but I can't name it...

"Bigger" & "Better" as in I get the bigger built-up at the same time still facing the garden & a tad more privacy than the first unit that I want...
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good for you, neighbour!

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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 26 2010, 05:17 PM)
good for you, neighbour!
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same goes to you... if not mistaken, u was the owner of Lot 77 is it..?
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same goes to you... if not mistaken, u was the owner of Lot 77 is it..?
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nope. but i was there when all three lots were taken. it was friday.

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Guess we know who to blame on this ... haha..
IF not mistaken Viola has 10+ units booked by TTDI director/staff...

I wonder when Alam Impian will flourish.... any guesses?
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Dec 26 2010, 01:20 PM)
ive got one spira last week and now im not sure ive made the right decision. i like the design but i felt cheated when they didn't release the dimension earlier.

1. they said it's a director's release. but how can they be too many? 3 during my time and 3 the next time. is it like a scam?

2. the sales people were acting strangely as if forcely trying to sell the lot, pretending that this man, Mr Tan is on his way to take the lot if i did not book. i felt pressured.

3. for 436k, i got one with 20x70 and 1870 sq ft build up. what if the loan valuers saw it as 350k only? i wont be getting the right loan amount then! the building plan and dimension and specs were only shown after i handed over the bank draft.

4. unprofessional, unprofessional, lying snakes sales people. the sharifah tried to pit the blame on me when I lost out on one lot and forced to take another of the same row. no compensation given, no rebates, not even cold water to cool me down. syed later did nothing but was trying to fool an old timer like me like im some kind of idiot. he was the one who pretended someone is coming to snatch the lot if i didn't agree.

please, anyone, anyone, convince me that i got a good deal, buying this spira. i dont believe anymore that the properties were sold out in three days back then in august when in truth, there are more units being 'released'.

hope to hear your opinion on this.
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I am the one who got the house like you in November but I don't have much doubt like you do now. I believe that what is happening with Spira is due to the factors involved such as:
1) Very long duration between launch time at August and S&P signing at end of November - 3 months time to think about it and many might have changed their minds during that time.
2) Restriction on 3rd property rule - many investors and probably TTDI directors back off from their bookings
3) Property market sentiment changed - In August, many people would buy houses without thinking about it twice but now we are doubting ourself whether we make the right decision:)

Director's release story, I don't think TTDI is purposely doing that. In fact, TTDI employers maybe holding them, hoping that they are going to make a quick money. But things are not going in the way they hope after restriction rules come out and they return those houses. That's why around 15 houses available around November and I am one of them who got the house like this.

Why Spira is available again this time must be related to signing S&P in the end of November. Now the buyers need to make up their mind and many may back off again for so many reasons.

For build up of the houses, it has been shown in TTDI alam impian website from August till Viola come out so I don't think they actually misled you on it.


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QUOTE(lock_82 @ Dec 26 2010, 07:06 PM)
Guess we know who to blame on this ... haha..
IF not mistaken Viola has 10+ units booked by TTDI director/staff...

I wonder when Alam Impian will flourish.... any guesses?
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Viola architect said TTDI commercial sector would be ready by 2015 together with semi-D and banglow. I guess it would be the same for I&P AI. Then, 2015 maybe the golden year for us:)

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hope u r right la naing....
huh...directors and staff so greedy ah? rich got richer some more..

but im also not surprised many ppl still not aware of this 70% restriction...they know only when they submit application to the banks...

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hope u r right la naing....
huh...directors and staff so greedy ah? rich got richer some more..

but im also not surprised many ppl still not aware of this 70% restriction...they know only when they submit application to the banks...
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Staff discount 7% + Bumi discount 7% + price increase after completing 10% = total 24% profit.....within 6-12 months?
I would do the same if I could too for that amount of potential profit....smile.gif


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true also...maybe i should apply to work with naza now biggrin.gif

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jom... we do group job application submission.. hahaha..
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hope u r right la naing....
huh...directors and staff so greedy ah? rich got richer some more..

but im also not surprised many ppl still not aware of this 70% restriction...they know only when they submit application to the banks...
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sorry what is this third house restriction?
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sorry what is this third house restriction?
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The maximum loan you can get from a bank is 70% of the price of the house if that house is your third residential properties and you are getting loans for all of your residential properties....
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70% margin will be impose for those having RESIDENTIAL LOAN more than two. other than residential means shop,commercial factory not inclu. wink.gif

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i was being offered unit 24x75,type e last week. Only got one day to consider and pay the deposit 10K.
For those interested in loan, i would like to recommend maybank May, and we can loan up to 95%. I am still waiting for the approval, then only proceed with S&P and paying balance (5%-10K) as told by Syed if able to secure 95% loan.

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QUOTE(ctlim78 @ Dec 27 2010, 09:02 AM)
i was being offered unit 24x75,type e last week. Only got one day to consider and pay the deposit 10K.
For those interested in loan, i would like to recommend maybank May, and we can loan up to 95%. I am still waiting for the approval, then only proceed with S&P and paying balance (5%-10K) as told by Syed if able to secure 95% loan.
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what is the package u got from them? BLR-2.2%?
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what is the package u got from them? BLR-2.2%?
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I guess BLR-2.3 is kind of standard now? I got BLR-2.2 from CIMB but it is because of MRTA issues. i did not take MRTA from the bank. I am going for MLTA.

By the way, I just signed the loan agreement. My loan lawyer is very optimistic. She said that the loan maybe released around 2 weeks:) I am not sure how true it is. If so, I will be anxiously waiting for the announcement on VP from TTDI.
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wats MLTA??
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wats MLTA??
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Umm there is a long discussion on MRTA and MLTA in lowyat roundtable discussion...
In brief, you pay MRTA one time for your house you get nothing back from that if nothing happen to you during issured time.
But MLTA is more like a life insurance. You will get all your money back if nothing happen to you during issured time.
hard to explain them. Please find the MRTA vs MLTA forum....
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QUOTE(naing @ Dec 27 2010, 01:55 PM)
I guess BLR-2.3 is kind of standard now? I got BLR-2.2 from CIMB but it is because of MRTA issues. i did not take MRTA from the bank. I am going for MLTA.

By the way, I just signed the loan agreement. My loan lawyer is very optimistic. She said that the loan maybe released around 2 weeks:) I am not sure how true it is. If so, I will be anxiously waiting for the announcement on VP from TTDI.
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My loan lawyer told me that they will send the LA to bank and bank need around 1 week to execute and then pass back to lawyer for stamping (should within 1-2 day) then will need ttdi to send bank a bill, then bank only will release the money. Hope they will going smooth within 2 weeks time. notworthy.gif

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