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zenith
post May 16 2005, 12:55 PM

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lol fisshy just insulted killakat!

muahahahahahahahahaha!!! there goes killakat for the lose (ftl)

don't play play with killakat... later paku vipersting u and wingclip u while killakat bite your bones fisshy.
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post May 16 2005, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(zenith @ May 16 2005, 12:55 PM)
lol fisshy just insulted killakat!

muahahahahahahahahaha!!! there goes killakat for the lose (ftl)

don't play play with killakat... later paku vipersting u and wingclip u while killakat bite your bones fisshy.
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vipersting is shit la... no effect on warrior, no effect also on priest/mage coz mana pool too large. tongue.gif
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post May 16 2005, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(FisshY @ May 16 2005, 12:38 PM)
Killa KAt sux!!! get a new pet, can go to STV go get pet liow
Please la get a turtle for instances, and help off tank, keep ur killa foroutdoor playing (except zulfarrak).
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void betterloh, last nite tribute my void tank the observer while the rest kill the boss, still no magi staff, plus void also can CC... man i miss my lock, btw druid can root anywhere rite?...and how dare u ditch me da3, dont make me lose fate on druid smile.gif, just gimme 5 weekdays i catchup loh
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post May 16 2005, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(eikan @ May 16 2005, 01:09 PM)
void betterloh, last nite tribute my void tank the observer while the rest kill the boss, still no magi staff, plus void also can CC... man i miss my lock, btw druid can root anywhere rite?...and how dare u ditch me da3, dont make me lose fate on druid smile.gif, just gimme 5 weekdays i catchup loh
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hehe... root outdoor only. (underwater also can root. brows.gif)
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post May 16 2005, 01:34 PM

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Fisshy's Guide For Assisting In Instances and Being Useful
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1) Who to assist, which mob to target? First of all, why is this important you might say, afterall you STILL can complete the instances that you go into. I want to let you know what your group of 5 can simply play and simply attacking any target and pulling and YOU STILL can make it up to level 60 and complete instances up to Sunken Temple and parts of BRD (mid level 50 instances) without much trouble (occasional wipes are there of course)

When u try to use the same tactics in Strat/Scholo/BRS/DM (ogre especially) i can guarantee you that you WILL have multiple wipes near to the instance entrance and u will be left wondering what went wrong. Pulling 6/7 mobs with three 61/62 elites is no joke.

Learn to make and ASSIST MACRO and learn how your teamates play. Make a new macro with an icon and type in /assist KillaKat if Killakat is designated to be the main assist. When u click on the assist icon, you will automatically target on the mob that Killakat is attacking. In this way, all will be attacking the same target. Make a macro for sheeping and pulling as well. I cant remember it on top of my head now, but i have those. These are important as you let your teammates know what things are going to get sheep/sapped or when/what are you pulling.

Always let the TANK pull/charge. (there will be some rare instances where a sheep/shakle pull is needed, but u will be informed before hand) When the tank is not confident of pulling in fear or aggroing nearby mobs. Let the hunter (if there is) pull cause his range is longer and if the pull goes bad he can always feign death (it does fail sometimes tongue.gif)

Why is it important to let the tank pull? Its not so important at lower levels but as u go into harder instances any leather/cloth wearers will get killed in a shot or 2 by hard hitting mobs. I am NOT joking. 2 hits from a mob with a crit somewhere inbetween and you will be DEAD, u wont have time to go into shadowform/vanish/blink/run. U WILL DIE and drop down fast and dont know what hit you. One example out of MC/Onyxia are the ogres/captains/guards in DM north. During their enrage mode, the can even crit for up to 2k or more per hit

Before starting the instance, take time to discuss who will be tanking/assisting and their style of play and it will make your run wipe free and stress free.

2) Rogues, always feint when u have the chance. Hot key it, and when it is lighted, feint before and after u attemp a cold blood eviscerate. I confess that i NEVER use feint untill i was like level 55. Start early and get your basics right so you wont have trouble in the end game. Try not to grab aggro fron the tank by using your most UBER damaging spell/skill early on. Mages/Hunters/Rogues are the number 1 public enemy of tanks cause they keep overnuking. A rogue's MAIN GOAL in an instance in NOT TO GET HIT by anything and therefore dont need a healer to heal you. Yes u r a DPS class. Any tom d*** and harry playing a rogue can ALL do insane amount of damage but only a handful, skilled ones can avoid aggro and avoid getting hit.

3) Mages, u need to control ur hormones, especially fire mages. Pyroblast/Fireball/Conbusion/ Arcane power/Fireblast/Flamestrike/Blizzard are NOT to be used in the beginning of the instance fight. Use it towards the middle/end to finish up mobs. If you use early in the begining mobs will be all over you. For fire mages, scorch is your best friend. If u have clear casting, keep scorching and then AM/Blizzard during clearcast. In the middle of the fight and toawards the end, feel free to dish out ur damage spells. THe AIM of a mage in an instance is to help with crowd control by sheeping (AND ALSO RE-SHEEPING), and its almost the same as rogues, IF you are playing well, the mobs will not get to you and be infront of you hitting you, unless its a rare occasion.

How do i (and im sure experience players will agree with me) tell the difference between a good rogue or mage (or priest or hunter or shaman or druid or warlock). If mobs keep surrounding you and hitting you, you are the same like 80% of other people playing your class; which is u SUX at your class - plain simple. Good and excellent players will know how to balance between DPS and aggro and your main aim is to strike a balanace between those 2.

3) Another thing are debuff slots that mobs cast on you and you party members. Mages/shamans/ druids please keep an eye on curse/poisons/disease, remove them as soon as you see them. It gets very nasty during end game and early on, do train your eye to look out for them.

The key to why i am stressing all these is for new players to have their basic right early in the beginning of the game and in the endgame i can guarentee that you will thank me for it. The faster and earlier you get your basics right, the easier it will become and you wont have trouble during end game. I wished that early on when i was playing, there was someone that told me all these things. Learn early, and apply it early - FTW!!!!!
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post May 16 2005, 03:02 PM

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shocking.gif blink.gif ini fisshy ah.. buat karangan panjang gila at work. too much time izzit shakehead.gif
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post May 16 2005, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(da3shou3 @ May 16 2005, 12:52 PM)
bear > turtle. same hp. same armor. eat everything though. tongue.gif
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mmhhmmmmm........KillaKat loves to eat Fish........especially nice smelly undead Fish...........especially the one always in front wan, tanking and bleeding nice juicy blood biggrin.gif

anyway, for those are playing Hunters, here's my recommendation for pet management

1) KNOW UR PET - tame and keep different beasts so that u can switch them accordingly for different scenarios. Some lazy ones are too c2pid to learn any other skills so DON'T BOTHER. Others are fussy eaters who eat lame foods like fungus and fruit, so again DON"T TAME...........to keep it short, here's my recommendation for the 4 types of pets

High HP, Low DPS - Bear (eats all shit and clever enough to learn all skills but slow attack speed)
High DPS, Low HP - Cat (also clever and got high attack speed but abit fussy eater)
Higher AC, Low DPS - Turtle (not so clever, also fussy eater and slow attack speed)
Jack-of-All-Trades - Wolf (fast attack speed but not as clever and very fussy eater)

Also, most beast in the same family has same stats upon taming except for attack speed............so taming Echyakee or King Bangalash = pretty pu55y but still lose to KillaKat (The-Pet-formerly-known-as-Rake).............this applies even to elites one...........so choose ur pet properly and don't focus too much on just the pretty ones

2) KEEP PET HAPPY - always keep pet happy by feeding and not letting him die too often (<= LAME Hunter)...........keep a stock of ready food handy (especially in long instances)............take up fishing so that u can t1u yi at VC's doorstep while waiting for lame group members who died to come back............in all, Happy Pet = more damage, more training points upon lvling and more obedient...........

3) TRAIN UR PET - always take time to go tame silly faraway beasts so that u can learn & teach new Pet skills.........Cower lvl 1 on Onyxia = dead Pet, silly Hunter...........so go on road trip across the beautiful world of Azeroth to find other beasts to tame temporarily...................like a one-night stand, just tame, feed, action & dump..........AND REMEMBER TO STABLE UR MAIN PET FIRST............don't masuk all the way into BRS to tame Bloodaxe Warg only to realise ur pet is still with ya.............

4) USE PET PROPERLY - though fairly useless in PvP (sorry Killa, /sooth), pets can be a fairly annoying factor in a large chaotic battle............KillaKat's high attack speed is useful to interrupt those nasty spellcasting and force the caster to run around, disrupting their pretty formation...........Killa's also can chase down those fleeing stranglers who have only a flicker of HP left.............if he succeeds, one HK for me.............but that usually is a suicide run for Killa (/sooth KillaKat again)

This post has been edited by Paku: May 16 2005, 03:12 PM
zenith
post May 16 2005, 03:20 PM

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paku gone koo koo... lame hunter = dead hunter, lame pet = dead pet + hunter, foodless hunter = gone pet = lame hunter.
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post May 16 2005, 05:27 PM

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tabard design will be posted in tonight around 10pm(hopefully) me going pasar malam in ss2 now after work. so we have atleast more than 12 hours to vote on the tabards. so will get the real tabard up tomorrow night after work at 8.30 before server shutdown and tpc can arrange another photoshot.
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post May 17 2005, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(tarpaucase @ May 16 2005, 11:36 AM)
You guys should definitely group up together and level up. it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster than solo-ing..

That's mainly how fisshy, me and paku level up to 30+ tongue.gif
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Sometimes very hard to get ppl to level up together. The only time when it happens is instances... *sigh*
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post May 17 2005, 03:03 AM

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Paku thinks playing hunter is like pokemon....

"KILLAKAT.. I CHOOSE YOU!!!!... "


Anyway, kudos and props to the people who started the massacre at Tarren Mill tonight... Gamer, Shadowman, Gkilla, Nskratar, Fisshy, Paku and myself.. wink.gif (Did I miss out anyone?)...
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post May 17 2005, 10:29 AM

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thanks to the massacre last night, i am falling asleep at work tongue.gif
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post May 17 2005, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(tarpaucase @ May 17 2005, 03:03 AM)
Paku thinks playing hunter is like pokemon....

"KILLAKAT.. I CHOOSE YOU!!!!... "
Anyway, kudos and props to the people who started the massacre at Tarren Mill tonight... Gamer, Shadowman, Gkilla, Nskratar, Fisshy, Paku and myself.. wink.gif (Did I miss out anyone?)...
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Ehehe... didn't manage to come coz i was solo-ing the 2nd boss in WC. tongue.gif

And I got this in 2 tries: Leggings of the Fang

Tonight maybe go in again solo the thunderlizard for this: Glowing Lizardscale Cloak
zenith
post May 17 2005, 11:29 AM

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dammit u can prowl inside... if i could do it i'll farm also
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post May 17 2005, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(zenith @ May 17 2005, 11:29 AM)
dammit u can prowl inside... if i could do it i'll farm also
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Ehehehehe. whistling.gif
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post May 17 2005, 11:56 AM

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Prowl ownz... Hehe. Yesterday night before I call it for a day I duel a lvl 22 rogue @ lvl 24. Both went stealth as soon as duel started. But I found him first (maybe becoz I'm higher lvl but well i got imp. prowl). So I got to attack first and start spamming my claw and rake on him. He tried to shake me off with vanish but didn't work due to my rake dot dmg. hehe... In the end, I shift out + stomp, heal up and use bear form to finish him off. Still got 1/2 hp after the duel finish. whistling.gif
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post May 17 2005, 12:04 PM

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nerf druid!
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post May 17 2005, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(zenith @ May 17 2005, 12:04 PM)
nerf druid!
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nerf resto druid!! buff feral druid! buff cat form!! tongue.gif
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post May 17 2005, 12:29 PM

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cannoot buff druids. .. have to nerf them kau kau.
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post May 17 2005, 12:36 PM

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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...id&T=178111&P=1

weeeeeeee tongue.gif
(i'm downloading now in the office. tongue.gif)

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