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> My car flooded. Cannot start. Proton Saga BLM., How much is the service? Anyone help?

rmvbplayer
post Aug 13 2010, 02:30 PM


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Hi sifu

My car was flooded until seat area. So now cannot start. Alarm still working. Central
locking still working. Radio still working.

Then I flick my key to ON. I heard "tak tak tak" sound. Then I turn the key, nothing
happened. Means, the car unable to start at all. I think it don't even turned.

I want to know what is my option now? I know I should call people to tow it. The
car still under warranty. Should I call Proton service center? I think warranty will
void.

So here what I think:

a) call outsider to tow and fix. Those accident foreman. I think need to clean
carpet. The water still inside the car. Cannot drain out because its underneath
the carpet.

b) call Proton service center and my warranty void.

UNfortunately, the insurance not include flood.

Anyone can tell me what is the best choice?

And how much would all this cost me?

Thanks first.

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post Aug 13 2010, 02:33 PM


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leave it under the sun for it to dry up
and probably your spark plug wet already....need to change or not, wait for some pro to answer here...u can try to change
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post Aug 13 2010, 02:35 PM


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Try to change the battery or try doing jumper form other cars,
but let it dry first,
cause ur car already swim into floods,

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post Aug 13 2010, 02:41 PM


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 13 2010, 02:33 PM)
leave it under the sun for it to dry up
and probably your spark plug wet already....need to change or not, wait for some pro to answer here...u can try to change
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Try to change the battery or try doing jumper form other cars,
but let it dry first,
cause ur car already swim into floods,
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But water still flooding in my car. I can't remove water without remove the inner carpet. Should
I remove inner carpet myself?

Do you think my engine got water?

If computer fry, how much to fix? sad.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 02:58 PM


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yeah...try to take out the spark plugs and dry it under the sun. Open the car bonnet and let it dry if your car is outside.

As for the interior, you can use vacuum to suck out the water.

If that still doesn't work then you have no choice but to tow it to workshop. If you are going to get third party repairman, make sure it is someone your trust. Cause a lot of car workshop like to cheat people.
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post Aug 13 2010, 03:01 PM


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could be the starter motor kong already?
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post Aug 13 2010, 03:13 PM


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Open your bonnet and leave it to dry for a few days .. or use hair dryer to blow it ... maybe your distributor got wet already ..
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post Aug 13 2010, 03:15 PM


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starter, alternator, fuse box must be dry in order to start

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post Aug 13 2010, 03:27 PM


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rather then dry the car twice, just take to workshop for 1 time wash n fix.
it will easier to take the car to trusted workshop n do it once for good.

all seat need to remove to proper wash the interior, and it's easier to dry the seat direct under sun or oven.

no matter how good is the wash, the 1st few months will have the wet sock smell in the car..

oven will be best since the key is to dried the car ASAP before mold/fungus grown since those are one that create the wet sock smell.
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post Aug 13 2010, 03:31 PM


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QUOTE(abubin @ Aug 13 2010, 02:58 PM)
yeah...try to take out the spark plugs and dry it under the sun. Open the car bonnet and let it dry if your car is outside.

As for the interior, you can use vacuum to suck out the water.

If that still doesn't work then you have no choice but to tow it to workshop. If you are going to get third party repairman, make sure it is someone your trust. Cause a lot of car workshop like to cheat people.
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Ok, will take note whether the car workshop is honest.

QUOTE(mrl @ Aug 13 2010, 03:01 PM)
could be the starter motor kong already?
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I'm not sure cry.gif

QUOTE(xMika @ Aug 13 2010, 03:13 PM)
Open  your bonnet and leave it to dry for a few days .. or use hair dryer to blow it ... maybe your distributor got wet already ..
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Yeah, I saw all the stuff below engine still wet wet.

QUOTE(yamato @ Aug 13 2010, 03:15 PM)
starter, alternator, fuse box must be dry in order to start
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Now raining season. Hard to dry sad.gif

QUOTE(chamelion @ Aug 13 2010, 03:27 PM)
rather then dry the car twice, just take to workshop for 1 time wash n fix.
it will easier to take the car to trusted workshop n do it once for good.

all seat need to remove to proper wash the interior, and it's easier to dry the seat direct under sun or oven.

no matter how good is the wash, the 1st few months will have the wet sock smell in the car..

oven will be best since the key is to dried the car ASAP before mold/fungus grown since those are one that create the wet sock smell.
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I was thinking this too.

If oven, need to remove everything even the dash board?

I scared after fixed back, it become noisy cry.gif

I need to fix this ASAP.... I really scared mold and fungus... and scared rust too...

May I know how much to fix this all?
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post Aug 13 2010, 04:01 PM


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bro..NEVER NEVER NEVER try to start ur car if ur car got flooded with water...

the ecu is located just underneath the dashboard...scare later if u try to start it, the ecu will short circuit and there more headache...

leave it to dry like it or not...
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post Aug 13 2010, 04:41 PM


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RePLACE ALL ENGINE oils , GEAR oil and other oils and filters, AUTO FLUIDS before you even turn the ignition, even after you dry other things. Otherrwiseyou may ruin your engine and gear box.
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post Aug 13 2010, 04:43 PM


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if you have tried to CRANK your engine.. and the STARTER did the CRANKING but the engine wont start... you can says good bye to ur engine d .. the conrod might have bend d ..

if not ... replace all the fluid .. DO NOT TRY TO JUMP START it
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post Aug 13 2010, 04:52 PM


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 13 2010, 04:43 PM)
if you have tried to CRANK your engine.. and the STARTER did the CRANKING but the engine wont start... you can says good bye to ur engine d .. the conrod might have bend d ..

if not ... replace all the fluid .. DO NOT TRY TO JUMP START it
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Bro, if the conrod bent, cannot be replaced is it ?
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:07 PM


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 13 2010, 04:43 PM)
if you have tried to CRANK your engine.. and the STARTER did the CRANKING but the engine wont start... you can says good bye to ur engine d .. the conrod might have bend d ..

if not ... replace all the fluid .. DO NOT TRY TO JUMP START it
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flooded car will get conrod bend meh?
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:11 PM


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QUOTE(yamato @ Aug 13 2010, 05:07 PM)
flooded car will get conrod bend meh?
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flooded car wont ...
but once u try to start it ... the pressure within your engine is much higher hence STARTING it the force will bend the conrod ..


yes you can change the conrod .. u might still need to rebored your block as bend conrod most likely scratch the block d.

new conrods ... REbore block ... new piston .... (can't imagine the cost tongue.gif) .. better pluck in 4G92 Mivec reverse version tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:32 PM


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There is nothing u could DIY. U should find a reliable mechanic or send it back to proton.

For a start, perhaps u could try to get quotations from a few workshop. Good luck and do update us about the bill and damage.
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post Aug 13 2010, 06:14 PM


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If she sends it back to proton, there goes all the warranties. Her insurance doesn't cover flood. Maybe someone here can recommend good mechanics/workshops doing this.

Anyway it won't be cheap and it might give problems even after fixed. Plus your car resale value will drop 70%.

Send it to those spray shop with ovens to dry them up.
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post Aug 13 2010, 06:59 PM


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I can confirm u some electronic part is spoiled.
U should have not try to crank the engine after the flood.
Now u'll have to at least change:
-Ignition coil
-ICM relay
-Crank sensor
-some fius in your ECU might have been burned too.

Total damage at least 2-3k including drying up those inner part
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post Aug 13 2010, 07:35 PM


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Wait. Your drive your car over the flooded area or the water flood your car ?
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post Aug 13 2010, 07:44 PM


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Ah....another flooded blm, the first blm to transplant mivec was due to flooding incident also, proton quote 15k for new engine, so the owner decided it was better to change to mivec around 10k plus.
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post Aug 13 2010, 08:15 PM


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Dont's try to crank or start.
Remove the negative and positive battery terminal.
Only option is park ur car somewhere safe but with direct sunlight.Leave it for 3-7days and then only plan to send it to workshop.
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Aug 13 2010, 05:11 PM)
flooded car wont ...
but once u try to start it ... the pressure within your engine is much higher hence STARTING it the force will bend the conrod ..
yes you can change the conrod .. u might still need to rebored your block as bend conrod most likely scratch the block d.

new conrods ... REbore block ... new piston .... (can't imagine the cost tongue.gif) .. better pluck in 4G92 Mivec reverse version tongue.gif
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she said she turn the key & heard "tak tak tak" or should be "tik tik tik"... thats the sound of a starter or electric cuircuit failure. nothing related to engine. u dont scare the crap out of her la.

if the started is fine & engine trying to run atleast it should sound "nyeerk nyeerk nyeeeeerkk".

how many of u actually understand what im saying? sweat.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 08:44 PM


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Tak Tak Tak means there's not enough power/or no power to crank the engine. Happens when batteries dead too.
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post Aug 13 2010, 08:52 PM


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send to a good and trusted workshop...no more warranty ady...prepare some money...dun start the car yet...

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post Aug 13 2010, 10:39 PM


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I think you really shouldn't try to turn on the key when the carpet still wet, the ECU and TCU might get damaged if they were underneath the carpet.
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