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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please

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teongpeng
post Aug 14 2010, 10:16 AM

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Just a note. There is no such thing as "joining buddhism". It is not a club membership where one may join and leaves. Thats as stupid as learning maths and say that you're joining mathematics, and when u suck horribly at it...u want to leave mathematics. What u learned stay with you, having learned that 1 + 1 = 2, no matter what you label yourself, 1 + 1 will always = 2. That is good enough. Unless you're stupid to think that by "leaving" mathematics 1+1 stops being 2.

Added on August 14, 2010, 10:19 am
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 14 2010, 06:59 AM)
TRUE buddhism is begging for food. Vegetarian is not true Buddhism.
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there is no such thing as true buddhism.

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post Aug 15 2010, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 15 2010, 12:45 AM)
Buddhism is a religion and it has supernatural elements. While it's philosophical views of life may be enlightening, you need to have faith to believe.
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the term 'supernatural' only applies to those who are uninitiated, to the ones who know....they are 'natural' elements of how things are.

And yes, all endeavours need some form of faith to begin. You dont know how to drive. I teach u how to drive. You will need faith to know that u may be able to drive after learning from me.

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post Aug 15 2010, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 15 2010, 10:05 AM)
SpikeMarlene,

Zen is about REALLY living your life.

You will be surprised on how hard is it to do that.

Dreamer
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Thats right. Everybody knows "studying hard" is the way to get good grades. Not many are able (or know how) to do that. Whining is the next option.


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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 15 2010, 10:37 AM)
I am really living my life as it is. Is that zen then? Or is there something I miss in my life?
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the difference is in the quality.


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post Aug 15 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 15 2010, 10:40 AM)
How does something supernatural for the uninitiated is natural for the initiated?
for a person is who blind since birth...and only ever communicate with other blind-since-birth people, vision would be supernatural.


Added on August 15, 2010, 11:09 am
QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 15 2010, 10:40 AM)
Faith in driving is very different from faith in the supernatural. I can and do drive and I can demonstrate to you that I can drive eventually (after some training). My faith in something natural is very different from faith in something supernatural. Or to put that in an extreme example, how do you know your faith is not about something that does not exist?
thats when ones judgement is put to the test. sleep.gif

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I can and do drive and I can demonstrate to you that I can drive eventually (after some training).
all buddhist practise are based on this principle, that one can actually experience it for themselves (after some training).

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post Aug 15 2010, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 15 2010, 10:13 PM)
What would a blind person see? By saying something unknown and that explains supernatural (another unknown), what are you trying to explain?
you're too dense to understand that something is only supernatural to you because it is unknown to you. and according to you something unknown cannot be possible, thus when something unknown is taught by buddhism...it tarnish the image of the entire teaching. bodoh kan?
QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 15 2010, 10:13 PM)
The important point here is I can demonstrate my driving to you. Why? Because driving is a natural thing. How would that apply for a supernatural experience?
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driving is a natural thing to those who know how to drive. just like supernatural experiences are indeed natural to those who know about them.
geeez dude....can u please dont polute a good thread with more dumbass questions?

Now...if we could ignore spikemarlene and his stupid gang of naysayers for a while...i would like to learn a little about dreamer101's approach to zen buddhism and compare it with the more traditional theravada buddhism practised locally. smile.gif

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post Aug 16 2010, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 16 2010, 11:15 AM)
In other words you cannot explain what it is you are talking about. It is true because I said so, right?
what nonsense is this? i already explained to you...but its not my fault you're too densed to understand. and again u say i didnt explain...here have a facepalm. doh.gif
QUOTE(SpikeMarlene @ Aug 16 2010, 11:15 AM)
Here again you claim supernatural experiences are natural only to those who know them, so your argument is basically this. I cannot explain or describe it to you but it's true. Believe me. That line of reasoning has been used ad nausem. You are not spiritually attuned, you would not be able to see the invisible unicorn.
wookey... rolleyes.gif swoosh
no one ask u to believe also, mr troll. You've demonstrated your imbecility for all to see if u cant understand a simple anoalogy : something is only supoernatural to those who dont know, to those who does, its natural. By the way we're not interested in spiritual unicorns in a buddhist thread. Show some class...and get lost.

PS:threads always turn stupid wherever spikemarlene start participating. thats supernatural right there.. laugh.gif

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post Aug 17 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 17 2010, 03:45 PM)
i cheated death a few times already.  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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did u cheat death, or did death ignore you?


 

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