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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 1 2017, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(tankhebeng1 @ Jul 1 2017, 01:57 PM) Anybody can enlighten me is there different between bai tian gong and buddhist And is si mian fo and guan yin part of buddhist or lump together with bai tian gong Bai Tian Gong is Chinese folk religion, NOT Buddhism (and NOT Taoism, either). Si Mian Fo is Hinduism. Guan Yin is acknowledged by both Chinese folk religion and Buddhism (but NOT Taoism).
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 1 2017, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(CoolMorning @ Jul 1 2017, 06:29 PM) As far as I know, Guan Yin is Amitaba Buddha disciple. In our current world, Guan Yin too became the disciple of Gautama Buddha and agree to be the dharma protector until the coming of next Buddha Maitreya. Meanwhile si mian fo, according to some Taiwanese masters is yin god. Loosely translated as uncertified being with supernatural power. Something like you must be recognized by higher authority (god or buddha I dunno). The Four-Face 'Buddha' is actually the Hindu god Brahma.
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 1 2017, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(CoolMorning @ Jul 1 2017, 07:24 PM) My previous post was based on some Taiwanese show few years ago. They talked about Thailand, black magic, ghost and god. The Taoist masters said Four-Face 'Buddha' is yin god (uncertified god). Some HK star did a nude dancing in front of him with intention of having a baby, etc. I am not sure whether it true or otherwise. Taiwanese talk shows are loaded with bullshit, and Taoist masters are largely frauds.
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 1 2017, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(tankhebeng1 @ Jul 1 2017, 08:47 PM) What is taoism? So if i pray to tian gong, guan yin and si mian fo, means im actually anyhow praying? Taoism is an acetic religion that champions harmonising with nature and the universe. Yes, if you do that, you are mixing beer and wine, and should really stick to one faith. One man cannot serve two masters.
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 1 2017, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(tankhebeng1 @ Jul 1 2017, 09:12 PM) What are some taoist beliefs and deities? And btw bai tian gong = sin tua? Taoists do not believe in heaven, hell or reincarnation. Their deities correspond to forces of nature or stars in the sky. Tian Gong is a Chinese folk religion practice, yes.
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 2 2017, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(CoolMorning @ Jul 2 2017, 03:27 PM) Are you sure Taoists do not believe in heaven or hell? They are using talismans and has many rituals such as *breaking the hell* for someone just passed away, etc.  That's not Taoism.
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 2 2017, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(CoolMorning @ Jul 2 2017, 04:27 PM) Did you know Mao Shan (茅山)? I think Mao Shan is legitimate Taoist school. They are famous for talismans and black magic. Mao Shan has as much to do with Taoism as the Ku Klux Klan has to do with Christianity.
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 2 2017, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(CoolMorning @ Jul 2 2017, 04:42 PM) Really that off target? So, what is considered Taoism? Or who was/is considered the iconic Taoist to date? Who is the famous real Taoist master? Let me see if I know him. Anything outside of the Dao De Jing really shouldn't be considered Taoism.
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SUSredisthcan
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Jul 2 2017, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(CoolMorning @ Jul 2 2017, 08:18 PM) I look at the development of Buddhism: Pali canon > Tibetan mahayana, tantric, Zen, etc. Even the next Buddha's teaching. It's all in trouble if we only recognize Pali canon as the true Buddhism. The same also applicable to Taoism. So strict in your definition? Why dismissing later development?  Almost every subsequent Buddhist development more or less adheres to the bedrock of the original canon. On the other hand, almost everything that people likes to label as offshoots of Taoism thoroughly violates the principles outlined in the Dao De Jing.
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