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post Jun 22 2017, 09:41 AM

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Just wondering, since Hindu & Buddhist generally sees cows as sacred (Buffalo considered cow?), most don't eat Beef, and some are full Vegetarian not for health but for belief of not hurting animals.

So I'm wondering do they mind or think about non-food animal products, like Leather wallet, Leather Belt, Leather shoes, bags, even Car seats etc?

I know it's not as strict as Islam where Pig = big No No. but i'm thinking if i felt Cow is sacred, i would not use Cow leather products, even if it's a byproduct from cow meat, it still encourage slaughtering of cow, for non essential use, which is worse than slaughtering cow for meat.

Tamils & Buddhists /ktards, wots ur say on this? So far, i have yet seen Hindu/Buddhist certified products. Even vegetarian cert is only for food.

asking here since some folks locked my topic which i believe is a genuine no harm question.

This post has been edited by advocado: Jun 22 2017, 09:42 AM
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post Jun 22 2017, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jun 22 2017, 03:03 PM)
What do you mean by "mind"?
If you are asking if they are using it or not then it depends. Monks are allowed to eat meat too but they must ensure that the meat served to them are not slaughtered for the purpose of feeding the monks as this would be against the teachings.

And fyi, monks do not have possessions such as money and would depend on donations/alms from others for their meals.
It should be the same thing with what they use.
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they see cow as sacred, so i'm asking if they mind using cow products like Cow leather wallet, shoes, belts, car seats. since they see cow as holy, i think it would be inappropriate for them to use cow products like meat & skin, especially those devoted to refrain from beef consumption, or outright vegetarian.

also asking vegetarians those that practice because they don't want to harm animals thus resort to vegetarian.

only certain small % of monks eat meat, usually those staying in areas where vegetables are scarce, saying they don't have money is really a joke. it's not the ancient China where monks just go around asking for food.

but IMO if the religion did not emphasize what to look out for & avoid, most people probably never though about what animal the leather came from.

but i'm sure there are devotees who though about it.

btw were you the one that closed my topic?
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post Jun 22 2017, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(fkmfkm @ Jun 22 2017, 11:15 PM)
they see all living beings as important..
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so i ask if most of the followers care about leather goods & whether it is cow hide or not.
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post Jun 23 2017, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 23 2017, 10:27 AM)
why does it trouble you?
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i'm not troubled, but it's good to know.

at least you know what kind of gift to give a person devoted to Hindu/Buddhist. no?
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post Jun 23 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 23 2017, 10:32 AM)
Don't give those things then  cool2.gif
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you know, you remind me of Islam.

it's like you assume everyone expects you not to eat infront of them during fasting, while only small % of them think that way, majority are still pretty open minded.

so if you say don't give those things, you are making assumptions on others, they might felt sad that you misunderstood them though they don't use leather goods, thus you giving something alternatives (that they might have less preference).

i don't know your religion, but i can see you ain't no Hindu/Buddhist. A true follower would try to understand the world, which includes other religions & their beliefs. At least for Hindu/Buddhist.
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post Jun 23 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(danokchonger @ Jun 23 2017, 10:49 AM)
it all depends on how much you know of the recipients and their sensitivities as well as the sense of strength of your bonding with them.
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but Buddhism also have a set of teaching, and i particularly referring to those that practice no beef/vegetarian followers, so there must have some sort of general consensus on usage of cow products right? maybe not 100%, but at least 80%?


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post Jun 23 2017, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 23 2017, 11:00 AM)
there isn't the need to be so dramatic. if you feel so strongly about giving something that may offend other people, then you don't give those things.
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1st of all, are you a Hindu or Buddhist? why are you trying to dodge here & there instead of giving an answer, if you don't know the general consensus of other believers, you can at least tell us your preference?

 

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