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post Aug 11 2010, 09:14 AM

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Hey, didn't know got such thread here. Now that it's officially the Buddhism thread. I suggest everyone keeps it clean and stick to topic. Those who wants to talk about other religion and debate please go elsewhere as there is already enough threads for that.

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post Aug 13 2010, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Aug 10 2010, 06:29 PM)
they say Buddha is one of Allah's prophet.
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Care to elaborate...who is "they"?? laugh.gif Simply tembak tembak to boost ego...i guess these are the 'they' you are talking about.


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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Aug 12 2010, 04:56 PM)
To be honest, you should assume my knowledge of Buddhism to be 0. I only knows what my parents taught me and that too is very minimal and I suspect is a combination of Taoism since I know that Buddhism has no concept of worshipping gods.

This is made worse by the fact that religion and believes is at the bottom of the list of what is important to me in life. Religion(I know, Buddhism is a way of life) too is the least I am concerned about when making decisions since I already have more than enough to worry about. All my life, I am guided only by moral values and my own principles.
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I think a lot of us from the same scenario. Most Chinese are Confuciousim-Taosim-Buddhism background...so a mish-mash of all, so to speak. Nothing wrong with it really. When it's time for you to understand more, you'll seek out for it. I was pretty much the same background.

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post Aug 13 2010, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 13 2010, 03:23 PM)
Because the buddha did not teach Theravada or Mahayana .. there is only one dhamma in the past...

But we are talking about 2500 years of evolution in Buddhism, and difference in opinion is bound to happen over time. It may be subtle, but given sufficient time, it will eventually evolve into 2 different school of thought.
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Yeah, and what about Japanese Buddhism....they have fusion traditional Japanese believes (Sino) with Buddhism...i think there are several sects....Nichiren, Zen, Pure Land...etc.



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post Aug 13 2010, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 04:07 PM)
i'm quite skeptical on reincarnation concept.. there's a paradox...

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in 1800 the population of the world estimate about 1 billion, after 2000 the ultimate increase of population to 6 billion + and growing...

if we die then reincarnate to somebody else, the rate of population should be stable or flat liner on chart...
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Haha...i was having the same question previously, when my understanding of Buddhism was very vague (i am hardly an expert now, but just know a little bit more).

1) In Buddhism, the concept is RE-BIRTH, not RE-INCARNATION. Re-incarnation is in Hinduism. A re-birth is not the same because in Buddhism, there is no soul. It's like you drop a drop of water into the stream, the stream flows to the end. Another drop of water emerge from the stream, this drop of water that emerge again is not exactly the same as the drop of water that enters the stream.

2) Re-birth doesn't always gets you back into the human world. There are many planes of existence in Buddhism. You can go to higher plane or go to lower plane. It can be the same physical plane as us...rebirth into an animal world, or worst....other planes of existence which we do not see. (There are also higher plane of existence we do not see...).

Also, Buddhism acknowledge other worlds of existence...you might not be even rebirth to this planet.

So you see, the chart of only human beings on this planet in this plane of existence is not a correct way to gauge rebirth.

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post Aug 13 2010, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 04:31 PM)
lulz...
this 1 Parallel universe liao... Quantum Theory tear my mind.. Buddha so keng, know Quantum Theory long time ago..
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Not parallel universe lar. Only multiple realms of existence. Other religions also have wat...but only less...etc Heaven, Hell and Earth.
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post Aug 13 2010, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Aug 13 2010, 04:38 PM)
I am curious, how many of you guys here actually practice to be "true" Buddhism and be vegetarian.
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You are wrong. Being a Buddhist doesn't means u have to be vegetarian!!! doh.gif

Only Mahayana encourages vegetarian, Theravadian monks can eat anything. Regardless, Buddhism taught u must not kill. Not must eat vege!!! doh.gif


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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 13 2010, 04:34 PM)
Tell you more keng one.

he said our mind is subdivided into quantum units of 17 moments......

The matter is in a state of flux, and at no moment they are the same. and by the time 1 unit of matter expired, 17 units of mind expires.

hu hu.
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This i dunno....can tell me which book talks on this?? Share-share...smile.gif

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post Aug 13 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 13 2010, 04:43 PM)
yo brother, you sound like a hahayana. Cool laugh.gif
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Forgive my ignorance...but what is a hahayana?? Or do u mean Mahayana?? tongue.gif

Actually, i consider myself Teravadian...smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 05:16 PM)
for me vegetarian is only good for detox ur body for few days, being a habit would malnourish urself eg. vitamin k, certain asid amino... never for religion purpose...
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Smart move. But it's a good idea to eat more vege than meat. In the end, the Buddha teaching comes into play...everything must balance...pull the string too soft, no sound. Pull too hard it'll break. smile.gif

So eat a Balanced Diet!!! thumbup.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 05:23 PM)
Talk about vegetarian..
could any vegetarian tell me which is below consider vege:
milk
egg
sea cucumber
yeast
soya sos
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I'm no vegetarian, but from my understanding, sea cucumber is not vege..it's some kinda sea slug. Egg is debatable...not sure. But soya sauce?? i thought it's bean only??
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(randyhow @ Aug 13 2010, 05:32 PM)
soya sos u need to fermented it for a period of time, so it is using bacteria to do the job , rite?
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Like that susah to kira man...bacteria is everywhere...open your mouth also eat some bacteria liao...rclxub.gif

That's why, i follow Theravadian...eat anything you want...LOL.
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post Aug 13 2010, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Aug 13 2010, 05:26 PM)
yes it is just that simple, how hard is that?  biggrin.gif

I am a vegetarian btw.  laugh.gif Not from religious purpose tho. but I do know there are high number of Buddhism locally practice this. Thats why I asked here.
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You must understand what is your "local" Buddhism is. A lot of Chinese temples praticising Buddhism are Mahayana. You can visit some Theravadian temples, where the monks eat anything that is offered to them, including meat. No worries. smile.gif



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post Aug 19 2010, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 19 2010, 12:34 PM)
It's a lot easier with a teacher. Plus, you don't get so confused reading so many opinions from the books and internet.
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Actually, i have no teacher. LOL. I dun intend to dwell into the deeper studies, just the basic. IMO, Buddhism is like a formula. It's up to you how you use this formula and apply it. It's not like a typical God-based religion, where they emphasie to tell you what u can do and what you cannot. It's like, give a man fish, he'll eat for one meal. Teach him how to fish and he'll have the knowledge to support himself.

Just to share... when i was younger...during my 20's, was looking for some answer...after studying different religious books for sometime, one night, while i was about to sleep, thinking about all this Buddhism thingy, suddenly i have like an experience where all the jigsaw puzzles fit into places...i can't explain it...mini-enlightment perhaps?? LOL. Anyway, from that day onwards. I simply know Buddhism is the path. smile.gif

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post Aug 19 2010, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 19 2010, 03:35 PM)
having desires is ok but what happens at the end of the day? that would be a more important question right. does it end or would you prefer to end it?
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It doesn't happens overnight....it might takes many lifetime for one to be ready to finally leave all desires behind....I know i am not ready this lifetime. It can wait. No hurry.
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post Feb 16 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(renounceChrist @ Feb 15 2017, 08:58 PM)
hi,
my case are quite different from you all , yes it is indeed holy spirit harass me most of the time.
i keep refuse and resist everything,the LORD indeed want me to abandone my degree as well. luckily i did pass and the degree cert.
and yes i did join churches before, the "lord" really want me to forsake everything, my career, my loves one, my relatives, almost everything, like an child being abandoned. if my parents help me on anything that benefits me, the force will use many ways to create conflict and cause many unexplained/weird damage between me and my family, sometimes my friends.
secondly, demons and christ angels(holy spirit) are partners/friends in term of real relationship. They use each other for own purposes sometimes.

i am not 神经病/psycho/insane people, this situation is real. Anything to do with my gain of my need, especially money, they will heavily interfere.

So even if i become atheist, they will still harrass me, because i have no protection. therefore the only way is Buddhism, the another authority which is the only the power can protect me. I understand how the spiritual force works in the universe.

this time i don't think can take it anymore. it has reached my max limit of patience level . if the holy spirit appear in the flesh, i would use knife /gun or anything straight kill him without any second thought .

Anyway, any good buddhist temple in Malaysia? i need the genuine one. i really have no choice anymore. I do not need you to understand my situation, i just need to find a genuine buddhist temple, and slowly become vegetarian. and repay all my debt.
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Your link broken. What's the story? Did you see a shrink instead? Maybe that will help too. Not sure if you're trolling or what...hmm.gif



 

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