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SUSHoka Nobasho
post Feb 10 2017, 09:30 AM

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I've found out something extremely interesting in Buddhism.

Can any Buddhist here confirm this? The Kalama Sutta and some quotes in Buddhism appear to suggest that we should always question everything including religion, and it appears to encourage us to be atheists or even an anti-theist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalama_Sutta

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dan

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The Kalama Sutta states (Pali expression in parentheses):

Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing (anussava),
nor upon tradition (paramparā),
nor upon rumor (itikirā),
nor upon what is in a scripture (piṭaka-sampadāna)
nor upon surmise (takka-hetu),
nor upon an axiom (naya-hetu),
nor upon specious reasoning (ākāra-parivitakka),
nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over (diṭṭhi-nijjhān-akkh-antiyā),
nor upon another's seeming ability (bhabba-rūpatāya),
nor upon the consideration, The monk is our teacher (samaṇo no garū)
Kalamas, when you yourselves know: "These things are good; these things are not blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness," enter on and abide in them.'


QUOTE
If you meet the Buddha, kill him. (逢佛殺佛)

— Linji
Thinking about the Buddha as an entity or deity is delusion, not awakening. One must destroy the preconception of the Buddha as separate and external before one can become internally as their own Buddha. Zen master Shunryu Suzuki wrote in Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind during an introduction to Zazen,

Kill the Buddha if the Buddha exists somewhere else. Kill the Buddha, because you should resume your own Buddha nature.

One is only able to see a Buddha as he exists in separation from Buddha; the mind of the practitioner is thus still holding onto apparent duality.


And I've even heard this from one of my former Buddhist friend that made him an atheist:

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"Even gods need enlightenment, they are not perfect."


 

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