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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please

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CoolMorning
post Jul 1 2017, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(tankhebeng1 @ Jul 1 2017, 01:57 PM)
Anybody can enlighten me is there different between bai tian gong and buddhist

And is si mian fo and guan yin part of buddhist or lump together with bai tian gong
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As far as I know, Guan Yin is Amitaba Buddha disciple. In our current world, Guan Yin too became the disciple of Gautama Buddha and agree to be the dharma protector until the coming of next Buddha Maitreya.

Meanwhile si mian fo, according to some Taiwanese masters is yin god. Loosely translated as uncertified being with supernatural power. Something like you must be recognized by higher authority (god or buddha I dunno).
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post Jul 1 2017, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jul 1 2017, 07:14 PM)
The Four-Face 'Buddha' is actually the Hindu god Brahma.
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My previous post was based on some Taiwanese show few years ago. They talked about Thailand, black magic, ghost and god. The Taoist masters said Four-Face 'Buddha' is yin god (uncertified god). Some HK star did a nude dancing in front of him with intention of having a baby, etc.

I am not sure whether it true or otherwise.
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post Jul 1 2017, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jul 1 2017, 07:43 PM)
Taiwanese talk shows are loaded with bullshit, and Taoist masters are largely frauds.
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Ha ha I don't know biggrin.gif
CoolMorning
post Jul 2 2017, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jul 1 2017, 09:41 PM)
Taoists do not believe in heaven, hell or reincarnation.

Their deities correspond to forces of nature or stars in the sky.

Tian Gong is a Chinese folk religion practice, yes.
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Are you sure Taoists do not believe in heaven or hell?

They are using talismans and has many rituals such as *breaking the hell* for someone just passed away, etc. hmm.gif
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post Jul 2 2017, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 2 2017, 10:36 AM)
Brahma is Creator god in Hinduism.

In Buddhism, Brahmas are used as a collective term to refer to beings who are in the Fine Material planes and Immaterial Planes.  Those realms can only be accessed by people who have cultivated Jhanas (mental absorption) , and maintaining at their dying moment.

Brahmas are usually depicted as four face being in statues. The reason is the Brahmas, have one thing in common - which is the purity of the mind, their mind is always dwelling in the following qualities, also known as "station of the brahmas", or "station of the high divinity"

Metta - loving kindness
Karuna - compassion
Mudita - sympathetic joy
Upekha - equanimity

Internally generated happiness from the power of the mind, these beings are very peaceful lot. They don't have sex (no sex organ in their body form), no sense of touch/taste/ smell. Only have seeing and hearing faculties. And they live very very very long, in terms of World cycles (Aeons) !!
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Thanks for info. That was just new info to me.
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post Jul 2 2017, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jul 2 2017, 04:21 PM)
That's not Taoism.
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Did you know Mao Shan (茅山)?

I think Mao Shan is legitimate Taoist school. They are famous for talismans and black magic.
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post Jul 2 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jul 2 2017, 04:33 PM)
Mao Shan has as much to do with Taoism as the Ku Klux Klan has to do with Christianity.
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Really that off target? biggrin.gif

So, what is considered Taoism? Or who was/is considered the iconic Taoist to date? Who is the famous real Taoist master? Let me see if I know him.
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post Jul 2 2017, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jul 2 2017, 06:28 PM)
Anything outside of the Dao De Jing really shouldn't be considered Taoism.
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I look at the development of Buddhism: Pali canon > Tibetan mahayana, tantric, Zen, etc. Even the next Buddha's teaching.

It's all in trouble if we only recognize Pali canon as the true Buddhism.

The same also applicable to Taoism.

So strict in your definition? Why dismissing later development? hmm.gif
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post Jul 3 2017, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 3 2017, 08:13 AM)
This one , you really have to do some reading and homework , regarding the historical development of buddhism, and have to take into consideration some locality variation/ evolution.

As far as Theravada is concerned, the Pali Canon directly recorded what our historical Buddha taught. His daily routine, alms round, dhamma talks to kings/queens/noblemen/workers.  It also recorded the events preceding his parinibbana and his final instructions to his disciples. and also what happened immediately after his passing away, his funeral , distribution of relics, etc
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Agree.

I meant not only Pali Canon is considered as true Buddhism but later development such as Mahayana Buddhism, Tantric, Zen, etc too should be regarded as true Buddhism as well.


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post Jul 3 2017, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jul 3 2017, 03:53 PM)
so have you tried practicing any of it?
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I was born in Buddhist + Taoist family. Somehow I got the basic (maybe incorrect view) about them.

I try to understand them (Hinayana, mahayana, vajrayana) first before in depth practicing.

Still learning about emptiness, meditation, Jhana, and other major concept.
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post Jul 3 2017, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(fkmfkm @ Jul 3 2017, 04:06 PM)
just find a center you feel comfortable..nearby your place and join them...
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Still undecided which path I will go.
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post Jul 3 2017, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(danokchonger @ Jul 3 2017, 04:19 PM)
practice and understanding goes hand in hand.
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Some simple things I practice now are like not killing mosquitoes and ants. Anger management, right speech.

I am not ready for advanced / more involved stuff like meditation and vegetarian lifestyle.
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post Jul 3 2017, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(fkmfkm @ Jul 3 2017, 04:45 PM)
moderation.....middle path
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Haha still trying to understand the Buddhism concept. My momentum is very slow. biggrin.gif

 

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